Is the battle frontier worth it?
>>12646667Yes
No
It's the end game for Gen 3 as a whole.If you just use your regular emerald team like every kid ever then you're going to eat shit.It makes a lot more sense when you import your teams from all of the Gen 3 games and shuffle them together to build sets that work for each facility.
I could only beat the pike and pyramid as a kid but I still enjoyed the frontier and played it a fuckton
>>12646667do you want to take an advanced course in probability, risk management, and emotion regulation?
>>12647159as soon as i saw the calm mind i knew what was about to happendo ohko moves go through sub?
>>12646667Think about it as a post-game mega dungeon or super boss. It's shit that 99% of players will not care about but the 1% just love hitting their heads against the wall and see how far they can push their luck, skill and patience against overly lenghty gauntlets build specifically to fuck them over.
>>12647182they break subs, unless target's sub has more hp than the target, but don't go through them
Werster cheated btw
>>12647159Walrein is the game deciding "Your streak is done."
>>12647365 qrd?
>>12647404He cheated in single player off camera not even while doing runs and that's bad
>>12646667Yeah it's actually really fun. There's one facility that kind of sucks, the palace. It's where your Pokémon choose moves on their own. Other than that, the BF is a fun time if you really like gen 3.
>>12647159This evil ass Walrein has been in every game up to sun and moon btw.
>>>/vp/
NoYou either slave away for a few hundred hours to make a competitive team or just inject one, and at that point, why even play the game instead of Showdown
>>12647915To be fair there's no other way to play that Pokemon. It's a fat sack of shit with mediocre offensive stats that can't really do anything but plop itself down and gamble on Sheer Cold/Fissure.
>>12647936>>12647915>>12647159Your sturdy Magneton bro?
>>12646667The Battle Frontier is the finest postgame experience any pokemon game has to offer as long as you actually like pokemon the game and not pokemon the brand. The Frontier's focus on battles of all formats makes it the premier place to experiment and enjoy the core gameplay experience. Emerald's breeding mechanics are enhanced enough to stay accessible, but still something you had to work towards, making it rewarding to finally get that IV spread you're looking for and fun to use the spoils of your efforts in the highest level of battling on offer in the entire main series. The Battle Frontier is the perfect culmination of the series' gameplay in that it emphasizes breeding and training new mons specifically for the facilities. It helps that the music and atmosphere are on point too. It's the quinessential pokemon experience for hardcore players. You won't like the Battle Frontier if you're one of those fags bitching that EVs and IVs are too difficult to understand, or using HM slaves, or never letting any of your mons learn a status move. The campaign is for those people. Part of the Frontier's beauty is the balance it brings to the gameplay experience. A dumb casual can pick up the game, win at the league, and walk away feeling like they beat the game. Hardcore players on the other hand can take on the Frontier and effectively get a second campaign. The more invested you are in the game, the higher return you get on that investment which just isn't the case for the series post Gen 5. It's not difficult at all to learn about the place as it's very well documented, so there's no excuse to not understand how to approach it other than one's own unwillingness to learn and execute. It's great fun for actual pokemon fans and has yet to be topped, but newgen fags who don't enjoy teambuilding, team management, and the battle system will tell you ORAS's Delta Cutscene postgame is somehow better. Tl;dr, if you actually care about Pokemon games, then it's worth it.
>>12651240this
>>12651240I agree but you should skip the headache and just use a save editor to give yourself good optimized pokemon instead of wasting time running on circles to hatch eggs and ev farming low-level pokemon
>>12651271you didn't beat the battle frontier btw
>>12651281The battle frontier and bicycle simulator are different things though
>>12651286I'd argue there's no challenge to the Palace beyond the teambuilding prior to it, though whether that's a worthy challenge or not is for you to decide
>>12651271I agree that using edited mons is fun but it cheats you out of the true experience. Like I said in my original post, the frontier is fun because of its emphasis on building new mons specifically for that purpose. If you don't enjoy breeding, then the frontier simply isn't for you. Building up a new Pokémon the old fashioned way is fun, largely because it's very conducive to the roleplaying aspect of the series. What else is a Pokemon Trainer to do but train pokemon, right? And because of that you learn specific places in the game that are good for training. By engaging with the game on as deep a level as the Battle Frontier expects you to, you take in a lot of the smaller game design choices the game makes, mostly in terms of map design since a major part of the game is navigating the overworld. It's a much richer experience than just battles because of all the gameplay required for to engage with before you can even really compete, hence why it functions more as a second campaign that has you traversing to areas not for plot relevance, but for how you can utilize them to further develop your team and collect resources to strengthen them. Other people have said it as well, but the experience is greatly enhanced and a bit easier if you have the means to connect to RS, FRLG, Colo & XD (especially if you have access to a Flash Cart and a Wii with Nintendont to run distribution software like Aurora Ticket, Ageto Celebi, the 10ANNIV mons and Berry Fix Zigzagoon) but you could realistically beat it with only Emerald. To neglect the less intense, in-between-symbols drawing board and training phases would be to miss the true experience. Like I said, the Frontier was built for the hardcore audience in mind, and when I say hardcore, I mean it.
>>12646667The postgame is always worth it. Even in gen 2's crystal. It's the only part of the game with any hint if difficulty. The only part where breeding for optimal stat spreads and natures, or working for perfect movesets, actually matters.Yes. Play the postgame. Just be careful not to develop autism for ribbon collecting. That's a straight path to the darkest depths of hell.