Did I hear right? Is there now a second dude making steel stick replacements for the N64 controller?Anyone have any experience with either? I need one of these, I can't settle for emulation, I can't settle for substitutes, these games need to run on the N64 for me, and they must use the original controller. If I could fix up my old pack-in gamepad with a shiny and new steel stick, I'd be set for N64 gaming for life, all I'd need after that is a flashcart, memorpak, and the RAM expansion.
another future-proofing mod you could do is replacing the SRAM in a controller pak with an FRAM chip. this allows it to store saves permanently without the need for a battery.also there's a mod you can do to rumble pak's to bypass the need to install batteries in them (though i'd stick to doing this just for one of them since the reason they put batteries in them was because the controller power bus wasn't designed to handle the power needed for several rumble paks)
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>Look this up>Several options available>Every single one is $150+There's no way it should cost that much. Either there's a ton of markup, or their production process is insanely inefficient.
>>12651319not op and not looked into it (though i have some time ago heard of people making replacement sticks for the n64), it wouldn't surprise me that they're expensive. it's something few people want (which is never good for cost) and it's also something few people REALLY want, which means they can charge what they like for it.something like this is the worst case for cost, something that is both wanted by few people and wanted really badly by those few.it's like, your choice is $150 or... nothing. there's no other choice. getting lucky on a new-in-box controller? the N64 is 30 years old, who are you kidding?
>>12651332There's a fair amount of demand for N64 sticks when you include all the non-steel options. it's just that none of them are as good. Steel sticks would obsolete every other product on the market if they were more competitively priced.As for myself, I can't justify it when I still have Kitsch Bent parts to grind into dust. They feel close enough to OEM to me. And since I'm not a speedrunner, they last a long time too.
>>12651319It's probably outright one guy with a CNC machine turning these things out on the side on occasion, while mostly doing other machining gigs for industry most of his time.
>>12650475>and they must use the original controller.Then use an original controller instead of a "steel stick". Otherwise, you are a hypocrite.
>>12651420Fuck off, you pseud retard.
>>12651608You said "original controller". You put an aftermarket upgrade in it, then it isn't the original controller anymore, you double retard.
>>12651757Nigger, shut your Redditor ass up.
>>12651420>>12651757This would be good pedantry if it wasn't for the fact that the steel sticks are the only stick options for the N64 which actually match the original precision and movement perfectly (just without the same wear problems).It's such worthless "Uhm, ACKSHUALLY" posting.
I bet i could make them for 50 bucks.
>>12651757not him but the point of the steel sticks isn't to upgrade or change how the sticks work, they're the same shape as the original and only replaces the wear components in the original stick housing, it's not a full mechanism replacement. basically the original stick has plastic-on-plastic wear which eventually leads to an unusable stick. these replace just those pieces with parts of the same shape but much harder wearing materials
>>12651819>are the only stick options for the N64 which actually match the original precision and movement perfectlyDoesn't matter. It's not original. A flash cart matches the original game bit for bit, but it's not original. Same thing.
>>12652208Wear and tear is part of the original experience. If you take that away YDNBTG.
>>12652213Shut the fuck up and just go back to your emulation handheld threads
>>12652215having floppy useless 30 year old sticks (giggity) isn't part of the original experience ACTUALLY
>>12652219It is. With my first N64 game with a brand new console and controller in 1996 the stick was already showing wear by the time I got 120 stars in Super Mario 64. I was actually kind of proud of the "dust" that had formed from my sessions, thinking it made me a real pro gamer to wear out a controller like that.
>>12652223i've seen people wear out sticks way faster than others. while it's not very scientific, something i've noticed is people who wear sticks out faster tend to "flick" the stick a lot, so i've always avoid that. all my analog sticks are still in good shape, the only worn ones i have are because i got them second hand and they were already worn.this all said, if you're speedrunning then you might not have a choice in how you use the stick, since there are tricks and methods you have to do to compete at higher levels which may be abusive to controllers
>>12650475>I can't settle for substitutesBut you are literally asking for a substitute.>flashcartalso a substitute
>>12651319It's 150 but it's the last n64 controller you'll have to buy.
>>12650475The only thing these sticks still aren't doing is the gears. There was one guy years ago who made brass gears, and the week I was ready to buy them he stopped selling them.
The nso controller feels the same
>>12653818Objectively false.
>>12652164If you can match the quality and output to that price, then by all means try.Brass gears would be nice though, nobody is making that anymore.
>>12652219sticks would get so worn out within a year that it was part of the OG experience of owning (or playing) n64 back in the day. only here on this board for retards will you find other retards that think the sticks were perfect for decades and then just became fucked in modern day. they were fucked from day #1 of release>>12652223this anon knows
>>12654398maybe i just didn't play mine enough. i got an n64 second hand in the early '00s since i initially went with the playstation. i used it occasionally until 2010 when i moved and didn't take it with me, the sticks didn't get worse.i question defending this though, like even if defects are "part of the original experience", at what point does fixing your stuff become no longer original? is an xbox dying because of a leaky clock capacitor just part of the experience too? is a worn out laser in a playstation causing fmv/music skipping just part of the experience?
>>12654413There's also this factor. A fair number of people didn't always use original hardware even when it was new.
Somebody buy one of these and tell OP how that works out. Go ahead. We are waiting. (Thank you in advance for your service.)
>>12652219It's the only flaw of the original controller to me, that it's got an uncomfortable ridged surface on the tip of the stick, and also that the stick grinds itself to death.There's a bunch of replacement sticks and substitute controllers out there, and their sticks aren't as fragile, but they lack the superfine precision and smoothness of a mint original stick. EXCEPT for the steel stick, which gives you that goodness but without wearing down ever.Otherwise, I like the shape and layout of it pretty well.>>12654413It can depend on the game. The first Mario Party had some minigames where the best way to beat them was to plain roll the stick with the palm of your hand, and this was brutal on them, and also was a good way to give yourself pretty bad blisters, which lead to a lawsuit, and the glove thing.>>12654428The ones by the first guy has been around for years now, and they are apparently really goddamn good by everyone's word of mouth, and tests I've seen.Problem though is that he makes them in small numbers and slowly, so availability isn't great, but supposedly a second dude makes them now, and I wonder if his are as good.
You think you need the original analog stick, but you don't. Rip off that band-aid and just play with a modern stick.
>>12654460No it's not good enough I need one made of tungsten carbide and I will not settle for less
>>12654460>>12654469Kill yourselves.
>>12653859I have one but I haven’t opened it up yet. Waiting to move houses so I can have a sweet gaming room setup. What’s wrong w the NSO 64 controller? Also the ten dollar AliExpress 64 controllers may be cheap as fuck but I’ve been using one for multiple games sometimes switching it out for one of my prime condition OEMs and imma be real honest w you gentlemen, I can’t tell the fucking difference like at all. Maybe if you’re a speedrunner or some tranny shit it may make a difference but for just playing the games it just werks. Now I doubt it’ll survive for 30 years but I can’t believe how it handles the games so well. Beat OoT w it and had zero issues. I probably should try some racing games, maybe I’ll see a difference there.
>>12654441lol at ur pic. That is pretty funny
