With the death of modern physical media, do you anticipate another increase in retro game prices as people make the switch to older games?
What's happening?
>>12670402>With the death of modern physical mediaIt's actually a murder
I think we're going to see more, official, rereleases of retro consoles and games. I'm not talking about those mini consoles but the actual consoles with either the original hardware or even in-house FPGAs. Honestly, it would be cool to see Nintendo or Sega come in and just tank game prices with official rereleaes. Konami just pumps out a million copies of Snatcher or something else just as rare and decimates the over inflated value.
>>12670959I'm all for it. All you need to do is find a way to add HDMI support and the normies will be all over itThere are chink clones being made so it definitely is easy to get done
>>12670959Nintendo and Sony have no incentive to do such a thing with their retro games being part of their online subscription, from a corporate perspective it's much better for consumers to rent your games instead of owning them. Sega and other companies that aren't in the current hardware race do have more to gain but I think Sega's CEO said something about "not being a retro company" not too long ago so I wouldn't count on them either. At the end of the day you can't really count on Japanese people or companies to preserve their own games.
>>12670402I'm anticipating more so an increase to the value of certain retro consoles with no anti piracy checks, like the Dreamcast. They will become more desirable as platforms for an indie dev to actually be able to produce something physical for, while game collectors will also be drawn to them as the only platforms you can still actually buy physical software for. Personally, I would hope for a resurgence of a niche of physical pc releases to come about due to this, though shit like modern Windows OS being just as bad as Sony shit does sour that option.But regardless, whatever exec decided on this can go eat a bag of dicks. All i fucking wanted was a machine i could use completely offline and buy physical games for. Removing that will not force me into buying a digital only no-games machine. I will hold onto my spite forever. What a gay world we live in.
>>12670402no, because zoomers and younger generations just emulate
QRD? I don't follow modern news
>>12671098Sony were smarter about this announcement than Microsoft. They didn't tie it to a console release, and announced it years in advance. They're much better at boiling frogs so I think they'll succeed in transitioning people to the digital only subscription slop scenario you fear.I know kids aged 15 to 20 who do not own any games for the thing, they've just been paying for ps plus the whole time. They won't miss it and see even digital "ownership" as a stupid unc thing. Games are a feed, like tv and they're fine, they don't give one shit.
>>12671137Sony will cease production of all physical games in 2028. Microsoft has some sort of tech that will rip the game data right off the disc and store it on your console. Also, by ripping the data they make the disc useless.
>>12670407>What's happeningI don't know man... Have you tried having a set of mammalian eyes and a functional frontal lobe?
>>12671158> Microsoft has some sort of tech that will rip the game data right off the disc and store it on your console. Also, by ripping the data they make the disc useless.The disc installs the game and then becomes a license key. So you insert the disc, install the game, and need the disc in to play the game. If you sell the disc, you still have the game on your storage but you lose access to it
>>12670402I don't see this impacting retro videogames. But I do believe we will see a very sudden increase in second hand prices for modern physical games. Actually glad I've kept most of my switch game collection still wrapped, might be my new retirement plan.
>>12670402sadly no i think the cattle will just go along with it
>>12670402that's a big controller
>>12670402>do you anticipate another increase in retro game pricesNo not really but then again I'v always emulated anyway while still owning my old hardware and media.The price increases will just make people emulate more often than not while the many companies make mini-version of console or release old games.
>>12670402the trend is already there but I don't expect a sharp change because getting old stuff to work can be a hassle and that filters normies
>>12671171i saw something about Sony announcing they are going only digital.How does that mean physical is over? It's over for Playstation consumers.
>>12672240yea bro,im sure the others wont follow and take the opportunity to make more money.NINTENDO CARES ABOUT LE HECKIN' CONSUMMERINO.
>>12672251nintendo is based, fuck off snoy
>>12672251Ah, I get it.Yeah I guess there's the innevitability of it, eventually. I wonder how long it'll take for Nintendo though, because they are the only japanese company standing, and they make their stuff primarily for the japanese public, which still buy physical
>>12672265>nintoddler thinks nutendo is good
>>12672296Not him but at least they haven't killed physical, yet.But I agree all corpos are shit. Nintendo less than Sony but they still have shareholders and therefore are tainted.
>>12672296ill enjoy all my physical games from nintendo while you have a digital code in a box
I honestly find obsessing over prices to be counter-productive because I'm into gaming to game not to worry about cash
>>12672306>>12672304the entire game industry has served its purpose. we have all of the emulators and roms now. they are backed up on thousands of servers and millions of hard drives. game development can end forever and the human lifespan can be increased to 10,000 years and we still will never run out of games to play. way more than enough games worth playing have already been made.
>>12672306how do you enjoy a disc? do you take it out and rub it instead of playing the videogame?
>>12672317>>12672323>t. snoy mental breakdown
>>12672325fuck off back to /v/ nintoddler
>>12672326snoytroon melty
>>12672327
What the FUCK is going on? How is physical media dying and why is this thread a sony vs nintendo console war one?
>>12670402i dont rly care what the pod ppl do to be perfectly desu with you
>>12670402Why are you giving ebay and eceleb cockroaches any more ideas eh tranny smith?
>>12672317>YES ITS HAPPENING AND ITS GOOOOOOOD! JUST ADAPT GEEEZ!
>>12670402And is it worth it if the games run better on the emulator?
>>12670402I see a rise in chinese consoles that play pirated versions of things
>>12670402On the contrary, I expect a massive drop as depressed loners finally succumb to the lure of cheap fentanyl and their families liquidate their collections, followed swiftly by another as the last working crts and aging consoles bite the dust, leaving a massive stock of useless games that only the most die hard of plastic collectors even want.
>>12670407Chinks just need to rerelease the ps2 with built in wifi and bump maps
>>12670402>do you anticipate another increase in retro game pricesYeah, but that's only because investor bros have effectively turned retro games into a ponzi scheme. Actual collectors can't afford shit, but these chucklefucks will continue buying from each other at escalating prices because they're retarded. This will not end any time soon.Even the most deadset physical collector I know has made the switch to burning disks or using everdrive equivalents for their original hardware. Physical collecting more or less died 15 years ago when all the soul was sucked out of the hobby.
Goy will buy new nigsim IV anyway...Right?
>>12672464shut the fuck up faggot before i rip your head off
we're physically losing Linneman now as well
>>12670402Not sure about +20 year old games, but PS4 games will definitely go up.
>>12670998Preservation is uneven. European companies lose source code too.
>>12674250>PS4>games
>>12670402All you had to do was not buy the fucking horse armour.
>>12674310I didn't though.
>>12674315Nobody admits to having buying it, yet blizzard still claims it generated more revenue than the entirety of starcraft 2Which in hindsight is pretty obviously bullshit.I wonder how many sales for the horse armor they actually had.
>>12674515Horse armor was like, a dollar. So unless SC2 failed far more spectacularly than evidence or logic or sequels would indicate, they were just completely making shit up.t.pirated horse armor in 2007
>>12674515The moment everyone should be talking about is the moment they were able to convince normalfags to fork over cash for virtual currency. I'm trying to figure out when that was.I don't remember a single normalfag ever buying an expansion pack unless it was standalone.
>>12674574My money's on those normie facebook games. I recall zynga being a pioneer in ruining the industry. https://youtu.be/xNjI03CGkb4?is=oQQ4w75RTIK7nPeHI saw this ancient video linked ages ago. Sadly it's still relevant
>>12674574fortnite?
>>12674631Buddy, many games had it before 2017Fuck, even Garden Warfare had it in 2014 iirc
>>12671158I don't trust Microsoft to do anything customer beneficial, but that just sounds like how physical pc games use to be for the most part.
>>12671145>They didn't tie it to a console release, and announced it years in advanceThat's what makes them bigger fags about this. The ps5 and even 4, still had 10+ years worth of time to get physical releases come out for it, even if AAA shit dropped it, with the ps6 being a hard stop to get off the sinking ship. Atleast microshit was honest about what they were selling and telling those who don't like it to stick with the 360. This on the other hand is just spiteful to a profitable market for physical indie and lower budget that could have long existed beyond gta6 or whatever bloated shit was on the horizon. Not just customers but also indie devs looking forward to getting physical copies of their titles made get fucked by this short notice.
>>12670402No, I expect more people to get into emulating. Probably on their phones.
>>12672317Yeah it's the same with books, music, movies, TV shows, etc. 99% of the best stuff has already been made/released. Even if you've got a crappy PC with low specs; you can still play/emulate hundreds of excellent games for free.
>>12674250Yeah the only reason I don't regret buying a PS5 Slim (with disc drive) is because I still have a few dozen PS4 games on disc I haven't played yet. I can't imagine buying a PS6 if it's digital only (and always online?) anyway.
>>12674612>ancient videoIt's 2016.But whatever, it's still wild that normalfags are okay with this now, in most aspects of their lives. Everything is a sub now.
>>12675946I feel like a man in the wrong century because i have zero subscriptions to anything, unless we count monthly phone bills, and even that also provides me my internet service since i hook my pc up through my phone to go online. It's no wonder people are struggling to pay for shit when the average dude has 5 subscriptions for media access, while also paying for shit like food deliveries.
>>12676010I don't understand why they accept it. I'll give faggot zoomers a pass because they were born into world where this shit became normal, but the normalfags who invaded should know better.
>>12670407This refers to the extremely popular chink and jap handheld emulation market, it doesn't mean gen z is out looking for retro Nintendos
>>12672306>buy "physical" game>is a keycardsure m8.
>>12672306>blocks your path
>>12676118Of course, emulation as a whole has always been the most accessible way to play old consoles.
>>12676118>jap handheld emulation markethaven't seen a Japanese one. korea stopped since game park. the market seems completely dominated by the chinese handhelds coming out of shenzhen
>>12676183>Not a firet party Nintendo gameLike I said.
>>12676118What are the chances they'll just outlaw these handhelds? Farfetched but I never thought I'd need government ID to play online games and that private servers are "piracy".
>>12676183ok do you know how this works?It is not the same as a digital code,the license is in the cart itself, if the cartridge is inserted, then you can play the game,meaning you can sell it or lend it to a friend.so it is not AS bad as digital codes
>>12676849NTA, but in my eyes, codes and keycards have the same equivalent value. Worthless. I guess their only benefit would be if i found them for cheap at a flea market and could flip them for cash for real games, but i would still feel bad about circulating them back into the market.
>>12676118The chinese handheld emulation market confuses me severely. The people who buy them buy A LOT of them. I've got a coworker with like eight of the fuckers. They all feel like trash and arrive with factory defects, but the dude is obsessed.The weird part is that none of them emulate past a psp. Which stands out since his phone mogs those pieces of scrap. He could just buy a handheld controller for his phone and have a much better time for less than even a single of those chunks of e-waste
>>12677005I went that route, got myself a telescopic controller and just emulate on my phone. But it's not exactly perfect either. For one, it occupies my phone, which I might need for someone else, while also consuming the phone's battery instead of its own. Also, the controller isn't as pocketable as one of the smaller vertical handhelds. But the controller is cheaper and the phone runs better while having more features and being more up to date, that's true.
>>12676993interesting,unlike you I actually buy video games to play them.
>>12677005I've emulated games on my phone for years, (since I've always been an android chad) and recently I bought one of those R36 clones just for fun, and honestly having a completely separate game device from your phone loaded up with every game ever made, up to the 5th gen, is pretty handy and I've been using it a lot. The go move is just to buy a cheap one and treat it as an old school Gameboy (up to Psx). Just something to have laying around that you can quickly pick and play. For $30 you can't go wrong with these
>>12677440So do I, except when they are downloads, in which case I play them without buying.
>>12677490so stealing,the equivalent of eating at a restaurant and leaving without payingabsolutely disgusting.
>>12672745What is "nigsim IV" even supposed to be?
>>12677694I would only feel bad if i was stealing a physical game. I ain't paying for air.
>>12676118No that was an OG Game Boy grom 1989
>>12677694Retard, didn't you say you cared about playing? Why are you caring about digital ownership all of a sudden?A pirated game is simply a copy of bytes, not something you actually own. Making copies isn't stealing.If you disagree with that and think they're possessions, then you should care about the fact companies can take them away from you. You're just a hypocrite shill, as usual.
>>12677806so by your retarded child logic all games on steam are not "proper games" because they are digital,thus it is excused to just pirate everything.you are the the absolute worst thing that is happening to the video game industrytypical for selfish morons like you, also let me guess,you are just a kid, 19 years old? 22?
>>12677836Correct. I only buy games instead of pirating everything because Steam is more convenient, and I like to display things on my profile. But I don't actually need them, and they know it.Now why don't you explain the logic behind your though process of "a digital game is an actual possession, yet it's okay for companies to have full control over the games you buy"?
>>12677694>so stealing,>the equivalent of eating at a restaurant and leaving without paying>absolutely disgusting.Many years ago, troll attempts used to be subtle.
Stealing removes the original"Copyright infringement" is a victimless talmudic "crime"
My Name Is Nate Higgers And I Hate People Who Pretend Downloading ROMs From The Internet Isn't Stealing
>>12679091It's not, it's literally how we've been to preserve 40 year old video games. Digital preservation trumps aging physical shit
>>12670402Why isn't /v/ filled with threads ranting about it? Console gaming is becoming so shit and yet there's like one or two threads on /v/ about it?
>>12677836>so by your retarded child logic all games on steam are not "proper games" because they are digital,He didn't say that. You know he didn't say that. You brought that up unprovoked.(But as a different anon, yes i do think less of games released only as downloads)
>>12679538Because they rather talk about non gaming shit.
>>12679538>Why isn't /v/ filled with threads ranting about it?It is, everyone is just pointing fingers at Sony at the moment because they're the first major game company that straight up said that they are no longer providing physical games.
>>12674636True. League of Legends had riot points when I graduated high school in 2010
>>12674612>My money's on those normie facebook games. I recall zynga being a pioneer in ruining the industry.Candy Crush was when?
>>12677440think is, with game keycards you aren't buying the game.just wait until the switch 2 eshop closes, all of your keycards will be worse than a paperweight, same as a download code.
>>12674310horse armor wasn't even the first console DLC thing. you could buy halo 2 map packs on the OG xbox
>>12681186And that's a good thing?
>>12681279>i should get new game assets for free because....uh....commie mindset
My Name Is Nate Higgers And I Hate Communists Who Just Want Free Shit
>>12670402im moreso worried about the prices of storage increasing since i emulateand when thinking about how much storage id need for my games its atleast like 5TB
>>12672190That is hilariously true. I have a friend. Just get a PC plug it into your TV and emulate, he even has Xbox one controllers. He couldn't figure it out and bought a very shitty pandoras box, an old one with a two joysticks and a 2x3 button. He complains that what I said is too hard, the pandoras box sucks and he can't afford xbox pass. Internet for normies is just a place to get scammed on the regular.
>>12681297While babby's first online shooter was out, PC shooters had hundreds and thousands of free custom maps.
>>12681371LOL, 5TB is cheap, you have to be really poor to not be able to afford $200-$300.
>>12681386well as i checked now external is much cheaper to actual hdd/ssd prices so thats good but i just mean in the future overallright now i think id need 5TB but its probably alot more since ps3/4 file sizes are pretty big
>>12681385modders can't make money from custom maps you dumb nigger
>>12681385modders can make money from custom maps you intelligent black person
>>12672634NO CHANGE NOTHING
>>12677836Digital games are not proper games yes.
>>12681398getting a PS4 and the games you want is probably cheaper than getting a 5tb HDD,lmao.
>>12670402it was always going to happen when they couldn't make good games anymore. almost all new games are terrible. just 'products' made to make companies money and ruined by involving too many teams of people who don't actually give a shit about it beyond getting a paycheck.
>>12682090get 8th gen shit now because i guarantee in 20 years the prices for that shit will be much like 90s shit is today
>>12670402Keep kidding yourself trying to sell your overpriced plastic and shilling collector behaviour, no one needs it at this point since you can always emulate.Then you have switch online service for the most known retro games shilled quite a lot in here so what is even the point of doing that.
>>12670998>nintendo and sony have no intention.>swtch online for almost any retro game either mega drive, master system, game gear, pc engine, gameboy advance, arcade, neogeo, etc.>sony has ps1, ps2, ps3 titles on ps store for premium users.Keep lying someday someone will buy you ps1 at 900 dollars on ebay that you are trying to sell for almost a decade but returned because is in shit conditions.
>>12683002Reread my post and what I was replying to you illiterate monkey, Nintendo and Sony do have a selection of old games available on NSO/PS+ but you can not own them you are forced to rent them through a subscription. They aren't going to suddenly reprint older games/consoles because it's not in their interest. I also never advocated for people to buy retro stuff anywhere in my post, you're the one shilling low quality official emulators that get BTFO by free hobbyist emulators.
>>12683143you can "buy" PS1 and PS2 games on the PS4 store individually without the subscription,PS3 you cant but anyway they are cloud based so not worth it either way.
>>12682980you don't understand collectibles.no one needs any of themold video games are collectibles now no matter if you shit yourself and stamp your feet about it or not, and people are certainly paying a lot of money for muh plastic.
I mean we’re already seeing two competing fpga consoles for the 64 and the AES+ getting an official console revision that will be forward and backwards compatible w its games and accessories so I think the chances are high that it continues (especially since the aes+ people are claiming they sold waaaaay more than anticipated and every game on amazon says it’s sold over 10k copies whenever I check or pre order one of the titles) and I’d love to see Sega get in on this. There’s someone working on sega Neptune release which I signed up for to track its progress and if it gets good reviews I’ll definitely buy one. It would be absolutely amazing if Nintendo did a console revision or in house fpga of the original nes and then offer either the famicom looking version or the regular American version for purchase. For one, no one is paying NSO for og nes games let’s be honest so this wouldn’t really touch their online business at all, people would buy it both as a collectible and to use (let’s just assume it’s backwards and forwards compatible as well like the aes+) and if they did rerelease of games (again like the aes+) it may wreck prices for these idiots selling copies of sealed Mario bros. For 50k and Nintendo is a very spiteful company so making money off it while brining down the ridiculous prices of some games in the retro market, id imagine, would be a win for them. I don’t think they would ever move on and do it again for anything higher because people probably do pay NSO for some snes games and then the further you go up the more likely it could potentially eat into subs but w the original NES that’s just extra money they could make. I hope these companies are watching the aes+ and waiting to see if that’s a success before trying it themselves, we will see.
>>12672296I mean there are plenty of things to hate about modern Nintendo but as someone who just got a switch 2, bro everything gets a physical release (hyperbole). I mean it’s pretty awesome to have final fantasy 1-10 on one console in physical form that I never need an online connection for that hooks up to my tv and I can just lift it out to play on the go. I also just got Onimusha Warlords for it which is a Japanese only release but it has full engrish and the consoles are region free so as far as physical goes, Nintendo has done a pretty damn good job of keeping that going. Even w my series x games that I have discs for including retro collections im pretty sure that you have to update them to make them playable so u dont really own the game like you do w Nintendo (although they are trying to start that keycard bullshit so maybe they too will go all digital but for now, it’s pretty nice getting retro games physically on a modern system).
>>12672624People are already recreating crt tvs bro. One company has one w a vhs combo they are working on. Just waiting for an update on the price but it’s happening. And this killing physical shit will only encourage people to go back to retro w all these fpga systems and what not being made.
>>12674945This is true too. They announce all digital but what can they offer that hasn’t already been made? The ps5 doesn’t even have 10 games I can think of that were aaa unique titles and not just remasters of ps3 or ps4 games. How they sold 90 million ps5s w no games is truly amazing but I doubt they’ll be able to repeat that when the ps6 comes out digital only and all u can do is play remasters. But to stay on topic, I do think this will push people back into the retro market. I mean, this could end up being a very good thing for retro if we get companies using this as an opportunity to rerelease official retro titles and fpga consoles…
>>12683802it has thousands of games. the notion that only exclusives are games are a nintoddler discord tranny meme
>>12683826What an absolute retarded thing to say. Of course it has thousands of games you can literally play anywhere else like indie games and remasters which most of these games you can play on other systems and the pc platform. I’m talking obviously about the exclusives which it really doesn’t have making the purchase of a ps5 the reason you got it over other consoles or a pc. Fucking retard. Anyway, killing physical will absolutely usher people to other places including retro.
>>12683875The majority of games worth playing are multiplats. It has almost all of the goty candidates every year. Nintendo is lucky to get 1 or 2. People bought it because it plays BG3 or E33 or GTAVI, Princess Peach Showtime and Echoes of Wisdom aren't bigger draws just because they're exclusive. And Xbox lost because xbone lost and ps5 has backwards compatibility
>>12683882The three games you mentioned are multiplats not system sellers outside of gta which hasn’t even released yet so has nothing to do w the already sold units. And literally no one cares about goty just like no one cares about the Oscar’s anymore. But if they did care (they don’t) all of the games u mentioned, again, are multiplats or will be in the singular case of gta6. You also failed to list games on Nintendos console like oh idk for the sake of ur own argument goty tears of the kingdom, which is totally exclusive to nintendo. So when I say I have no idea how they moved 90 million units off the back of games you can play on other systems and remasters, that’s a valid thing to say. You seem like u really like sony and really hate nintendo, which I’m a pc Xbox guy first and then I did eventually get a switch because they offered something unique but all I have right now are retro games for the switch 2 until the OoT remake comes out but otherwise I wouldn’t have picked one up. Either way sony will probably lose a lot of steam by the time the ps6 comes out and be just as dead as my boy Xbox is going to be in a year or so unless Asha the reaper can pull a miracle out of her phat ass.
>>12683890Also to tack on, I now have physical no internet needed copies of: Onimusha warlords, ultra street fighter 2, links awakening, Star Fox, final fantasy 1-10, and skyward sword tho that isn’t retro. As far as putting out physical games, Nintendo is the only console really doing that. Every single Xbox game I have, all of them, even the retro ones, have needed to be updated. Pretty sure you have to, to play them at all but maybe a handful of them did come w a complete game in disc. Point being of the three consoles and PC, only Nintendo is consistently putting out the full game on a physical cart you own that they can’t touch. That’s all I’m saying. And the ease and convenience of a system that can just be picked up and used as a handheld is icing on the cake. Do I think Nintendo is an extremely shitty company in other areas? Of course. They sue everyone and are retarded about that and more but as far as putting out physical releases, no one right now is doing it better then them and 90 percent of the games I’m getting for the system are retro or retro adjacent because none of these companies can put out consistently good modern games anyway much less physical copies of games. I’m seeing no point for even normies to pick up the next gen of either Xbox or PlayStation because all it will be is a walled off system that has almost no exclusives and they can take your games away at the drop of a hat.
