I'm just playing it for the first time and it's great, better than any of the SNES games. Visuals and sound are top notch, stages are actual uniqje and memorable with some gimmicks to keep them fresh, bosses actually have fun patterns to learn instead of just facetanking them with their weakness.So why is it so reviled by fans? They just don't like the new aesthetic?
>>12679397I think it's just a bit of console warring, X4 is ridiculously fun. Far better than than X2 and X3. X1 you can make plenty of arguments in favor of it over X4.
Another attempt at trying to console war.1) X4 is beloved, the controversial titles are the ones after it2) it's also controversial to deem it better than the SNES games though, with X1 and X2 being considered also the best by many.Probably most fans would have X1, X2 and X4 as their favs.
Saturn version > PSX
>>12679410This. inb4 that one anon who posts the blue shadow webm
>>12679410PSX version has lower input lag and proper transparency. What does Saturn have?
>>12679413Faster loading, better music, looping music, cool effects like heat haze
>>12679413Way cooler cover art
>>12679413PSX also has better SFX quality, better FMV quality and music that properly starts and ends which you can listen on its own, instead of being cut off for a loop.There's a resident saturnfag who obsesses over multiplats even though the PSX version is just better.
>>12679428>PSX also has better SFX qualitywrong>music that properly starts and ends the other way around
>>12679430PSX does have better sampled audio quality for sound effects. You can compare it yoursef. Same with Megaman 8.Last time this was mentioned, you tried to move the goalpost by pretending it "didn't matter through a CRT" despite it being something you're constantly hearing during gameplay.Also the Saturn version doesn't have song outros, it just cuts off. It's simply not a proper mastering.
>>12679436>You can compare it yoursefI've beaten the game on both>PSX does have better sampled audio quality for sound effectsthat's simply wrong>Also the Saturn version doesn't have song outrosyou're absolutely full of shit
>WHAT AM I FIGHTING FORRRRRRRRRRR
>>12679402>X1 you can make plenty of arguments in favor of it over X4.Maybe for other versions or scrimblo chip hacks, but the original SNES version is jank as fuck, almost constant slowdowns and horrific input lags, no thank you.
>>12679442My childhood memories and affections.Console wars are holy
>>12679449The PS1 version of Mega Man X1 does not have less latency than the SNES original. In fact, standard testing reveals that original SNES hardware is incredibly responsive, making the original cartridge far superior for latency
>>12679454>X1You mean X3, mate.
>>12679397Because it wasn't originally released on a Nintendo console.
>please guys! Take the bait! Do console war!
After playing it a bit more, I am seeing some flaws>overall too easy, but just wonky balance in general (although that's all the Mega Man games)>subweapons basically all suck>menu'ing and boss animations take a bit too long>story is complete nonsenseOverall, solid game, So far I am thinking X4 > X1 > X2 > X3. It's either this or Zero 1 that is my favorite Mega Man game, but I still need to do my playthrough as Zero
>>12679750retarded zoomshit
>>12679780>muh zoomerI'm playing on original hardware and already beat Mega Man 1-7, X1-3, and Zero 1-2. What exactly is "retarded zoomshit" about this post you fucking moron?
>>12679403It's fucking insane to me that anyone enjoys X2. Half of the boss battles are "wait around until boss becomes vincible again lmao". They're utter boring slogs. I'd take X3 over X2 any day of the week.
>>12679413>What does Saturn have?Worse graphics
>>12680315X3 has Volt Catfish that's worse than all the X2 bosses combinated, on top of being a worse game in pretty much every aspect.
>>12679780This is what running out of thoughts looks like.>>12679750Having played through these games, would you play them again for 100%? Or leave the experience where you left it off?
>>12680332>>12680329 -> >>12679420
>>12679412kek called it
snoys are retarded as alwaysSaturn demolishes PSX when it comes to MMX4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdOPhk4S0r0
>>12679397Because it's not better than X1. It looks worse than the prior 3 games. The levels are much shorter than the prior 3 games. The ONLY thing it has going for it is the soundtrack and cutscenes.
PC chads, rise up!
>>12679750>>subweapons basically all suckIt should be noted that starting with X4, that lets you use both the buster and the boss weapons without having to switch, these seem to be designed with a different philosophy, in order to be completary to the buster rather than completely superseding it (as it was the case especially with the overpowered weapons in X1).
>>12680448>The levels are much shorter than the prior 3 gamesWell that's just plain wrong, except for the Sigma levels, that are Indeed too short and kinda suck
>>12680479The stages are tiny and broken into annoying, short sections.
>>12680538>annoying get good shitter
>>12680315I'll have to replay it again, it's been a while, but I remember it being excellent. Maybe I like X1 a bit better but still X1 and X2 were the best X games to me. If there was any "waiting" it sure wasn't as exaggerated as you claim enough to make a good game bad
>>12680448X4 artstyle is better, stages are longer and more unique/memorable, bossfights are less spammy and more about learning their patterns, final bossfight is way better, it has no slowdown, it lets you play as Zero, and it fixes a lot of little annoying quirks like>HP pickups respawn upon death >weapon energy refreshes upon death (instead of forcing you to suicide until game over to get another fair try)>subtanks no longer require HP to be maxed to fill (counterintuitive since players who take little damage won't need subtanks)>can actually save in the Sigma stages (MMX even gives you passwords like you can save... but they just don't actually work, nice!)>boss weaknesses are much less pronounced, ending the constant weapon cycling against bossesThe only major issue is most/all subweapons are utterly useless in combat, and even that is a sidegrade at worst, as it means you don't have to spam cycle through every weapon on every boss to find their weakness.
Low quality bait like this thread is more proof /vr/ is dead. OP is a lying faggot that deserves to be brapped to death.*BRRRRRAAAPPPPPP*
>>12680670Wheel Gator is annoying because he spends too much time underwater, but aside from that the bosses are perfectly fine. I'd say they have more interesting gimmicks than X1.
>>12680897>>HP pickups respawn upon death>>weapon energy refreshes upon death (instead of forcing you to suicide until game over to get another fair try)These are bad things. All the checkpoints too.And Sigma isn't all that good. Grim reaper Sigma can barely be called a fight, second phase can easily be cheesed by making him throw the scythe to the wall, and the final phase is the best one I guess but still kinda tedious, and the vacuum attack is annoying
>>12680897>weapon energy refreshes upon death (instead of forcing you to suicide until game over to get another fair try)Which also makes the newly-introduced Weapon Sub-Tank useless.
>>12680419I'll deal with a few more seconds of loading time for better looks and gameplay, thanks.Take your adderall.
>>12681069PSX looks worse and plays worse (Saturn pad is the better input)
>>12680353Wheel Gator, Ostrich, and the Snail would like to have a word. They're fucking boring as shit to fight.
>>12681051Not really, you use it mid-fight as intended. It's mostly useless just cause subweapons are useless tho
>>12681050Nah Sigma in MMX1 is a total pushover, has a ton of HP but has a really braindead and repetitive strategy to kill him. Not to mention, he has specific weaknesses yet weapon energy doesn't recharge so you constantly have to suicide after your first attempt to game over and refill weapon energy.I agree phase 1 of MMX4 is pointless as flame chargeshot basically oneshots him but phase 2 and especially 3 are great. Phase 3 seems brutal at first, but you slowly learn the patterns and get the hang of it, and it's a really great fight.
>>12680993Yeah I remember reading people exaggerating about gator.I don't think it was that bad, or bad at all. This whole "I have to wait 5 seconds? bad game automatically!" sentiment seems very fake.Also you said half the bosses, what other ones? So I can have them in mind when I replay it
>>12681158Just realized you're not the same anon, so the question is for the original anon not you>>126811343 bosses, that's still not half the bosses in the game and you're exaggerating.>omg I have to waaaittttt for an opening noooooooo
>>12681134>OstrichThat one doesn't even go into the background if you don't offscreen him.
>>12681169>Expecting him to have played the game
>>12681149I agree that phase 3 is more varied in X4, phase 2 would be better if it wasn't so easy to exploit, Sigma's dog in X I'd say counts as phase 1 and is better than X4 though
Alright I'm doing my Zero playthrough and this game is peak, it's the first Mega Man game (after nearly a dozen beat) that finally 'clicks' with me.The subweapons are complete trash though, like genuinely useless, but I don't even really mind because I always found it obnoxious cycling through weapons to find the boss weakness and then just facetanking him while spamming that.
>>12681213Zero has no subweapons dumbass
>>12681226I'm talking about Mega Man you fucking moron
>>12679397You know how much a player sucks depending on what game filtered them.>X4 kamige but some have issues with it.>X6 great game but several got filtered by difficulty (not that hard to finish at all).>X8 is quite great but lot got filtered because alia and other girls are playable characters.
>>12679397The only one hating it is you similar to the ones complaining of the others simply because they can't do a no damage run on them.
>>12679420>Faster loadingYou are going to emulate the game anyway. Also, source?>better music, looping musicYou can say the music loops, but saying the Saturn has better music implies the songs themselves are different, which isn't true. Also, you'll never be in a level long enough to hear the music reset on PSX anyway.>cool effects like heat hazeA heat haze effect in two levels doesn't override the entire game looking bad because of the opaque dash effect, something you are looking at in literally every second of gameplay.
>>12679397Does someone here have the SNES X dashing around like an idiot?
>>126821141. You can't speed up PSX loading in an emulator, the game wouldn't load at all. What you can do however is force real transparencies on a Saturn>but saying the Saturn has better music implies2. Its sound hardware is betterGrasping at straws here, snoy
So if Iris and Colonel appear in X2&X3?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnUGU8HHMjk
>>12679397A X4&MM8 port on 64?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhoNU89rB1A
>>12682114>A heat haze effect in two levels doesn't override the entire game looking bad because of the opaque dash effect, something you are looking at in literally every second of gameplay.imo this doesn't look bad
>>12682661>Needs to modify the Saturn to get a better looking gameStay on the ground where you belong, segroid.
>>12682669Every game should be saved from the trash hardware that is N64 not ported onto it
>>12682679You don't seem understand. Saturn version already looks better out of the box, in addition to sounding better and playing better.
>>12682680There's nothing worth saving on N64.
Stop liking Nintendo 64
>>12679423>*feels the aura*
>>12679397Mega Man X SNES trilogy are basically the extended screw attack retard that worshipped Mega Man 2 and X1 to death.
>>12682682Saturn has higher input lag, how the hell is that playing better?
>>12682669fuck no, port that shit to the Dreamcast, not the uggo vasaline 64
>>12682817substantiate your claim
>>12680453Holy pristine
>>12679780Based>>12679789>>12680356Inti Creates creates horrific garbage for the LCD fag.No wonder Capcom fired their asses when they made Mighty No 9.
>>12682667What the fuck is this shit?Go shill your paypig trash elsewhere.
>>12682667>ShowcaseSuper tired of these type of things.Just let me access and play the actual thing already.
>>12682834unfortunately for years, the mega man community is obsessed with show and tell garbage, even despite Capcom (who currently have harsh fan use rules now) being more lax than Nigtendo when it comes to fangames.I personally put to blame to the faggot making Corrupted and the japanese Mega Man Zero romhack scene for pushing this crap, which is another reason to hate Intifags and their autistic bullshit in the Mega Man scene.
>>12682682>You don't seem understandbit nervous there, rajesh?
>>12682948>if I bullshit my way through enough it will stickQuintessentially brown behaviour
>>12682951>Immediately repliesyeah you areyou can't run from reality (the saturn version being inferior), as multiple people have reminded you alreadygo back to playing astal or whatever it is you have left
>>12682993refer to the post above, you're still at it
>>12682816SNES had serious trouble doing action games of any sort, so of course the moment it finally gets one decent one, the SNES drones lose their minds over what would be a C or maybe B tier on any other system. What's funny is SNES can't even run Rockman X, it's constantly slowing down and dropping inputs, which is why they needed to use a special scrimblo chip in X2 and X3. The best way to play X1 is not even on SNES.
>>12679750x4 is 10x more fun as zero. ive played as X once or twice and done at least 10 zero runs through the years.
>>12682823Frame advance in Beetle/Mednafen and tested on MiSTer FPGA (same lag as original hardware). Saturn 1 frame more
>>12683198>Frame advance in Beetle/MednafenThis is wrongly assuming that both beetle psx and beetle saturn don't add lag or do so in equal proportion. Beetle PSX is true to real hardware, Beetle Saturn adds 1 frame of lag on all games.> MiSTer FPGA (same lag as original hardware)You're lying again, you didn't test shit
https://warosu.org/vr/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=Snes+drones
>>12683227Damn, sounds like SNES drones have been a pretty big problem for a long time now.
>>12683253I also used to think this whole "australia-kun" was just a made up boogeyman, but someone posted this link to a /v/ thread the other day and... yeah, it seems it is really just 1 guy doing all that shitposting. I'm not even surprised, 4chan has a lot of weird individuals like that.https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/566454080/#566454080You can see him posting there, he's doing it all: sega system, shitturn, snezz, all these shitposts that get spammed regularly here are all contained within that thread, it's all the same guy.
>>12683274console warring over retro consoles is such a sad thing.
>>12679397>I am tranny smith! I love rewriting history!Your hole wound is just a hole wound
>>12683274Wait the trashure spammer is ALSO him?
>>12679397Not a single memorable level or boss. It's peak mid. It had the benefit of every game that came after being shit so it seems better in comparison.
>>12683226I did test it. Test it yourself and see coper
>>12683568describe in detail how you conducted the test on mister
>>12683274And it's the mod too
>>12683581240fps camera, record myself pressing jump button for both and count yhe camera frames
>>12679397>Why is it so hated compared to the original trilogy?Because it isn't at all? Plenty of people consider it the peak Mega Man across all franchises.
>>12679423Shit that's sick
