>Same thing makes us laugh, make us cryHoly shit, such wisdom. He deserved to rule Los Santos.
Was he stalling at the drive thru because he knew the ballas were gonna do a hit, or was he just being a fastass?
>>12686993He knew. That's why he took hours to place his order, he was making time because the ballas were taking a bit longer than expected.
>>12686993>>12687000he also quickly changed the subject when Ryder talked about the green saber
>>12686993>"Two number 45s, one with cheese" >.45 caliber bullets>Sweet is the "one with cheese"This was most likely his signal to the Ballas to move in for the kill.
I think the countryside missions were fun, and they're always a highlight of the playthrough for me
>>12687158Damn, you know I never thought about this but everyone does look confused when he says it.
>>12687158>two ballas proceed to chase youHad to be a code of some sort
>>12687158Everyone keeps theorizing about how this mission is a betrayal moment, yet to me it doesn't make sense that Big Smoke would go as far as call the Ballas to shoot a car with he inside it. It's too stupid even for a video game.
>>12687235this, i think people give smoke too much credit. he's a genuine snake retard
>>12687235Niggers in the hood IRL have done far more reckless things to achieve a goal.
>>12687208I also like San Fierro despite most people disliking that chapter. Woozie is cool, Jizzy is a funny villain with some fun missions and killing T-Bone feels good.
One will protect youThe others will hunt you downWhich homie do you recruit?
>>12687235They were going to shoot up grove street, not you specifically, you just managed to catch them before they could. Ryder at this point wasn't a traitor either (that was a last minute asspull).
>>12687542>Ryder at this point wasn't a traitor either (that was a last minute asspull).Not true. Ryder's betrayal was part of the plot early on, it's just the finale of the San Fierro chapter was rushed.
>>12686993>ok guys i want you to shoot up the car i'm in????????????
>>12686993This is the most "semi-retarded people think they have a big brain insight" phenomenon in videogames
>>12688129People overthinking Smoke being a colossal fatass is peak midwit behavior. If anything, it was a set-up from CRASH, just like the train robbing mission with Ryder.
>>12687235They weren't shooting up your car, they were going to the hood. The cluckin bell trip was supposed to get all the OG's out of there so they could do more damage.The mission drive by is basically the inverse of the drive thru mission.
>Big Smoke ordered that much food because it would make the homies have to wait an hour for the fast food joint to even cook up all that shitHoly shit
Why did the Ballas attack from the south if the heart of their territory is to the north and east of Grove Street?
>>12687369The game dies a gruesome death in San Fierro and never recovers.
>>12688527Nope. The desert and Las Venturas is kino. The game dies when it returns to Los Santos and Rockstar ran out of time or kino-juice or whatever.
>>12688529GTA SA is fun, but let's be honest - besides the opening act until the Green Saber mission, everything else is bullshit filler that barely matters until you return to LS. It's fun bullshit, but filler none the less.
>>12688108>>12688129Smoke is the only one in the car who doesn’t shoot the ballas, why’s that?
>>12687110The Green Sabre seems a hamfisted what-the-fuck moment in the gameWhat the fuck is a green sabre? Why is it important?>>12687236He tried to leverage Grove's capacity of controlling territories and enforcing its quasi-state capacities to open up commercial opportunitiesThe only thing he needed was a figure that gave legitimacy to that cause, which was Sweet.Unfortunately, that didn't work out too well, so he went in bed with C.R.A.S.H with lent him all the powers he wanted at the price of selling his soul and being his constant personal bitch.Either way, Tenpenny's time was up and Smoke would've 'smoked' anyways. Nobody liked him in charge and you can see how much he struggled earlier on.Corruption kept him afloat.
The cash is leaving Los Santos again
>>12688768jokes aside, the payout for doing these activities is actually shit
>>12688620The green Sabre was being driven by the Ballas who killed CJ's mom. When the Johnsons discovered it was in Big Smoke's possession, they realized that he was a double-crosser and responsible for her death.The problem is that I don't think that information is actually told to you in-game. Instead, it was shown in the 20-minute promotional video "The Introduction" that Rockstar released prior to San Andreas.
>>12688620>The Green Sabre seems a hamfisted what-the-fuck moment in the gameI can see that, because why the fuck would the Ballas or Big Smoke keep that shit in their possession? That'd be a high heat vehicle. There was no reason for Ryder, Big Smoke, and C.R.A.S.H to be whipping the Green Sabre out of some garage moments before Sweet got shot in some gang war shit.What difference would the Green Sabre provide in this scenario, to the Ballas, or to C.R.A.S.H? Inflicting psychological damage on Sweet and CJ?
>>12688542Cause he's a dumb fatass with greasy chicken on the brainnigger the "plan" is stupid. Why would he need to "hire" the ballas? Why wouldn't he just put a cap in the back of CJ's head himself and say "OH SHIT WHY WOULD BALLAS DO THIS?" that's way more nigger style.
>>12688771Yeah, I think the trucking missions reward like 1000 only. At that point in the game it isn't enough money to be worth it.
>>12688826Oh, now it makes sense.I always wondered wtf that was so important, I thought the green sabre meant they were selling grove street out?Yeah, you're right. They never explain this in-game, not even on WCTR.>>12688831>why the fuck would the Ballas or Big Smoke keep that shit in their possession?They weren't as clever as Donald Love when he set yakuzas against Colombian cartel>>12688768Not right now. I gotta check into some shit.
>>12688620>>12688826Ryder actually gossips about it at the start of the clucking bell Drive-Thru mission before Big Smoke tells him to shut up quickly afterwards.The implication is Big Smoke/CRASH hired the ballas to try to get rid of Sweet through a drive-by, using the green sabre as cover, so Big Smoke could control the entire gang because Sweet didn't want to participate in the crack businesshttps://youtu.be/pEMPYHz6uiI?t=39.
>>12689028That's such bullshit lmao, they establish drive-and-talk is mostly chit-chat and then use this moment to drop a significant plot point.A new player doesn't know wtf is a sabre. If they're paying attention, they might've guessed it was an inside job, someone that was supposed to raise their (green) sabre for the grove.Which is... correct?This is almost malkavian-tier bullshitAnd the brain juices start to work, big smoke drops a fat maymay and gets you completely off track
>Smoke quotes "the big book" in some dialoges, which is probably the bible>JC is short for Jesus Christ, but also for Johnson, Carl>The guy in the bible who betrays Jesus is called Judas>There's a Chinese author who goes by the pseudonym "Judas Smoke" who writes about Mechas>Big Smoke wearing body armor and being hard to kill in the last mission kinda gives him the characteristics of a mechaOmg you guys, it was always in plain sight if you connect the dots! They hid so much hints! Surely I'm not overthinking this.
>>12689127now make a 4 hour youtube essay
Playing through the game right now, got to Amphibious Assault but it says I need more underwater experience.Does the game expect me to just randomly stop and grind a fucking RPG stat? What the fuck is this gay shit.
>>12689254Yes, it does.Presumably more swimming missions would've been before that one but there weren't any.
>>12689258That's retarded. Can I just use a cheat code for whatever stat this is? There doesn't seem to be much doing in the water.
>>12689262If you're on PC there's a mod that speeds the game by 3x when you're underwater and gives you infinite oxygen, so getting max lung capacity is trivial.Otherwise, i hope you like sniffing seaweed and jellyfish, because you'll be here for awhile
>>12689269It only takes like 15 minutes of repeatedly diving and resurfacing
>>12689272Time is relative, 15 minutes for someone high on meth is 30 seconds, whereas 15 minutes of trying to raise lung capacity will feel like 3 hours
>>12689262Either install a mod for that or make yourself useful and go search for oysters while you're swimming anyways.
>>12688482bc they wouldn’t expect it
>>12689037A Sabre is a model of car in the GTA universe. It’s supposed to be like a Buick LeSabre, the same way GTA Stallions are like IRL Ford Mustangs. The game tells you what car you’re in when you enter it. Sabres were present in GTA3 and Vice City too.You’re either trolling or retarded.
>>12689331yeah, because a normalfag from mid 2000's that has never played any GTA is going to recall a late 1960's vehicle on the spot.Dumbass.
>>12689037>A new playerWho fucking cares about underage fucking retards like you?You're worthless irrelevant shit and no one spares a care that you literally have existential pants-shitting rage trying to play a video game due to zero life experience
>>12689331I don't think Sabres exist in GTA3, but I remember Sabres being my favorite car in VC so I immediately envisioned a green Sabre when it was mentioned in that mission
>>12688979Yeah but they are fun to do, Born 2 Truck
>>12689913We're all overthinking this, it's a pointless plot gimmicky.And all that matters is that big smoke and ryder are shermhead, and tenpenny and pullaski are chota pigs and corrupt bastards.Vice city had some kino oldschool cars tho, really enjoy cruising town with a cuban hermes
>>12690345There's something about my scattered hunter-gatherer brain that enjoys trucking... These missions are so comfyIn GTA 3 i would often go for that linerunner parked near the seaport entry instead of picking something more reasonable like copcar, banshee or mafia sentinel.
>>12690392imagining claude pulling up in a big rig for every mission is humorous
>>12690402Hey, i never read the fine print of my birth and never asked for being an odd duck, but here i am anyways.I'm just trying my best to gather berries in my forced grain-fed coded mind
>>12690423i definitely remember being more enamored with the big vehicles, as a kid. nowadays my brain just beelines for the closest sports car or 4 door sedan, although lately i've been making a conscious effort to pick some oddball cars to drive now and then, while replaying these games
>>12690429I feel like i've already mastered sporty cars thanks to my smooth and light inputs steering. So it's kinda boring to zoom past everythingWith heavier vehicles i'm at least making an effort to recalculate apex turn-in and i get to bop things sometimes just for the lulz.
>>12689650Bro you just needed a copy of Gran Turismo, half my car knowledge came from that shit.
People who say San Andreas is an ugly game can't see the forest for the trees.
>>12691028No doubt, at the age of 7 i already knew pretty much every single car name, brand, drivetrain, estimated horsepower by just looking at it.Then i just realized how little normalfags care about vrooms, so yeah...Maybe 90's tuner culture changed that a bit? But that went away quickly and it's never coming back since cars are so complicated now you can't really replace/change parts.That's the magic of being on the spectrum - you don't really know how little others know about your fixations.>>12691957Tierra Robada's Toreno (ram) ranchI heard polar bear shit in these woodsDo you know what a subdermal neurophone is?
>>12691983>Do you know what a subdermal neurophone is?No but according to The Truth, I don't wanna know
>>12686959GTA was always a nigger tier game series, they double downed on San Andreas with niggers everywhere. The only decent GTA was and always will be Vice City.
>>12688768Gonna have to let this one slide, man, got too much shit on my plate.
>>12691997it's a parody retard. and vc sucks
>>12686993most of his order is him just saying what the other three ordered into the squakbox. His own meal was only like three burgers and a soda.
>>12689254the game expects you to have docked around and swum for fun enough at that point that your swim stat would be fine. most likely during playtesting they realised that a lot of their testers didn't do that, and ended up drowning or otherwise struggling because CJ's lung capacity was too low, so they quickly went back after the mission was completed to add that stat check. it's probably one of the sloppiest missions in the game because of it.
>>12692065I don't even know why they would have expected that. The first time they even put you in a boat is when you kill Ryder which is around the same time as this mission.The only other time they throw you in the water is when you drive a car off the dock for whatever mission (you might fall in).
>>12692401Nobody did this in 04 but on replays you just scope him through the sniperAmphib is retarded anyway as you can cheese it [spoilers]with the sniper by climbing the rocks after the diving section[/spoiler]
>>12692401in 2004 it was normal to get sidetracked for hours experimenting with the game world and the mechanics. trying to speed blitz through the story ASAP so you can check a game off your list is a modern thing.
>>12692501no time to explore, i refuse.>t. gaming dad
>>12692502game's not for you, then.
>>12692506that was sarcasm, i hate gaming dads and shitloggers.i won't elaborate why, i just hate them.
>>12692501Aside from running around doing graffiti, I found there wasn't much to explore. The most interesting shit I even found was a chainsaw just running around.
>>12689650most people who played San Andreas at release had played the previous two
>>12689913>Sabres don’t exist in gta3You’re right, they were only in VCmy fault
>>12692401I always did the side missions for the bonuses before even beginning the story, so I genuinely never had an issue with that particular mission thanks to all the oyster hunting
>>12692548I get a kick from just admiring what the devs put together. This shit took conscious effort. Soul.
>>12692509I loathe, despise, and have utter contempt and hatred for faggots that watch the "angry screaming faggot 'nerd'" genre of eceleb.
