>>12696251
Sometimes they do end up appreciating the game but you just don't realize it. One of my favorite games is Metroid Prime. I used to play it all the time when me and my younger sister were kids. I didn't know she cared about it at all. And then when MP1 remaster came out on Switch she bought it and played it with her daughter because she remembered watching me play it when she was little.

It took me almost 30 years to realise the way I enjoy things like games or even movies or books isn't the way 99.9% of people enjoy them. It boils down to basically that "socialising" is #1 in most peoples heads, and everything else is secondary. Which is why you can show someone a really cool game, even explain the depth of it to them, and it just goes in one ear and out the other even if they're supposedly "into games". It's all just disposable to them, tools and single-use toys to fasciliate socialising. Liking something solely for the thing in and of itself is very rare in people.

Now I just enjoy things by myself and accept I'll never get a truly fulfilling conversation or dicussion about it out of anyone.

its nice when the opposite happens though. I convinced a young coworker of mine to try FFX. He didnt like it at first, and wanted to drop it in luca (which admittedly is the most grating and annoying part of the game). I convinced him to keep going and push through and eventually he got broken by the ending like the rest of us did and loved the experience.

>>12696263
Imagine the opposite scenario though, where they push through it while trashing everything about it despite them playing it very poorly, missing most of the point of mechanics, avoiding central mechanics, saying things like the graphics of some other game is better (when it's not true) and when it's over they're proclaim thank god it's over.

>>12696260
I agree with this 100% and it is immensely comforting to know that I’m not the only one.

>>12696260
>>12696279
100% chance of autism here

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>>12696251
If you're going to keep genning this garbage so you can make a thread to show it off, at least use the right Zelda.

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I think it depends on the quality of the person you're sharing it with.
I've shared games I love dearly with other people, and they ended up loving it too, and it became another fond memory I look back on and smile when I think about the game.
I've also shared my feelings about a game and had people call me a stinky buttface. But there's no point in letting people like that bother you.

>>12696251
What was the game, Anon?
Maybe I can be the person you share it with who actually ends up enjoying it.

Not really, I have 2 reactions when someone doesn't like a game I like:
>they genuinely don't enjoy it and explain why they don't in a rational manner
i agree to disagree and end up with a neutral emotional reaction, an anon not enjoying a game I like doesn't change anything for me, plus it's a chance to discuss the game one way or another
>anon is visibly angry and hates the game
Makes me feel even better about liking the game I do due to schedenfreude

>>12696251
Not angry but maybe disappointed. When ever I recommend a game/album/movie/whatever to someone they seem to not care about it, even if they are into that genre/style and asked for recs. I feel like most people like to """"naturally"""" discover things on their own, like having a game or song appear in a tiktok or some shit randomly, rather than going into something knowing their acquaintance enjoys it and recommends it. Idk I can't explain this shit.

>>12696260
>>12696279
This is autistic behavior, your inability to understand that others may not have the same interests as you do, or they don't talk others ears off with obcessive details.

>>12696251
recommending music is almost always a disappointment. i decided i was done after a friend listened to a rec and said "oh nice i like these guys" and said nothing about the lyrics or message or anything. engaging in their level of discussion reduces you to an npc, so just don't bother. keep your secrets.

>>12697617
I like Jethro Tull, so I recommended playing Bungle in the Jungle in the work truck once.
No one said a word during or after. I have no idea if anyone liked it. They went back to the usual pop country afterwards.

>>12696280
>>12697614
>you're autistic if you decide you don't wanna talk to a wall any more

>>12697617
listening to music for the lyrics is like playing games for the story

>>12697614
God forbid you crave an intellectual discussion that actually resonates with you and keeps you engaged.

>>12697676
God I hate how awkward that sounds

>>12696260
>Now I just enjoy things by myself and accept I'll never get a truly fulfilling conversation or dicussion about it out of anyone.
This just means you're not in the right social circle. It's like that saying "if you find yourself the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room". You gotta find where the people who engage in things the way you do are.

>>12697731
NTA, but lets not downplay how hard it can be to wind up in the right social circle. 9 times out of 10 you can take a few steps back and realize you're surrounded by acquaintances of convenience.

>>12696260
>Liking something solely for the thing in and of itself is very rare in people.

You're the one person in a thousand who's capable of comprehending that art can be enjoyed without a buddy present, huh? You are nuts dude

>>12697795
Sure, finding people you connect with ultimately comes down to random chance, and your life situation can make it more difficult to almost impossible. But unless you're in a completely fucked situation, I think there are ways to make it more "accident prone" in finding connections. Most of my friends I met from pursuing my own interests, and ending up in places/programs/events full of people with similar interests

>>12696260
Notice the cope replies in response to your trvke.

>>12696251
>You ever gotten that?
No because I'm not autistic and can handle other people having different opinions from me. And anyway it's better to acknowledge a game's flaws and all of the things that are either outdated or esoteric by modern standards. Every time I recommend classic Tomb Raider I explain that the controls take getting used to and aren't for everyone. If the other person doesn't end up liking it it's not a big deal. Some will, some won't. But at least they won't be surprised by the tank controls which do have a difficulty curve. Or I might suggest trying to beat Super Mario 1 but I'll explain that back in the day kids would gather around the TV and tell each other where all the hidden blocks were, etc, and there are lots of other games like that where I'll say you should just use a FAQ because you'll be missing that part of it. People respond much better to honest assessment than glazing. Tell them what they're actually going to be in for, not what you just want them to feel about a game you like.

>>12696260
great post. secondaries are fuming

>>12697925
>But at least they won't be surprised by the tank controls which do have a difficulty curve.
only sub 100 IQ think that,first time i played a game with tank control it took me maybe a minute (more like 10 seconds) to then use them perfectly without struggling or pressing another direction because the camera changed or whatever.
only retard cant adapt to very basic game control,like i had a friend whos really into a genre of game and i recommended him my favorite in the genre (not retro) and just because there was one or two button that werent doing the same thing he is used to he was constantly complaining and doing wrong inputs,he basically never play anything that doesnt have the standard homogenized control scheme of modern slop because he cant adapt at all and even if he tries will still do wrong inputs after hours of gameplay.
ive stop talking about video games with him because he has very retarded take every single time.

>>12697985
Sometimes you do just have to cut them off but a little tard wrangling can go a long way.

>>12697897
>Most of my friends I met from pursuing my own interests, and ending up in places/programs/events full of people with similar interests
Then you're exactly who I don't want to talk to. Your life suits you, fine, good for you man. But I don't wanna waste my time hanging out with people that I don't truly click with and can only have surface level relationships with. I'd rather be alone than spend my life on something shallow.

>>12696260
Same. This is also why I've always bounced off all MMORPG's, I was the only one in my group who never cared for WoW.

>>12697617
I could not care less about the lyrics or message if the music itself is shit

>>12696280
>>12697614
>anons feel insecure about their inability to know what this is like
>"must be autism"
Sasuga

>>12698074
I also bounced off every MMO I ever tried except for FFXIV, because you can play that like it's 6 Final Fantasy games stapled end to end and whenever you do a dungeon or fight a boss you get assigned a party of human companions. But I've got 5000 hours in it and you never have to talk to anyone ever, which is what most people do. The main appeal is the story/music/characters, some of the best in gaming.

>>12696260
I was finally able to meet that 0.01% of actual gaming nerds while playing old PC games. Too bad they live all over the country so I'll never get to geek out in person. Meeting like minded people feels impossible IRL when your daily routine is going to work, running errands, and going home. The only in person hobby I had was playing Yu Gi Oh and Magic but those games suck ass now.

>>12698074
MMO's strike me as a huge meme, why would I want to play a game with barebones gameplay just because there's a ton of other strangers running around.

>>12698067
I mean if you're happy with where you're at that's fine, but it sounded like you were unhappy with not having people you truly connected with.
>Then you're exactly who I don't want to talk to.
What? You're saying you don't want to go to places of people with similar interests? I'm not saying that every single person there will be become your best friend for life, just that it's more likely you'll find someone that you click with.

>>12698753
>What? You're saying you don't want to go to places of people with similar interests?
Sounds like a huge waste of time that could be better spent playing video games.

In an ideal world, sure, I'd like to easily make friends with people who know their shit about games. But so far I haven't encountered even 1 person like that irl. I know I sound stuck up but that's just my preference for who I wanna hang out with.

>>12698769
>Sounds like a huge waste of time that could be better spent playing video games.
I often feel that way when getting forced to be social, but there can be benefits even outside of making friends. You can find people who are more knowledgeable than you in your interests and learn stuff from them, or find out about opportunities to do things related to your interests. When I went to grad school the program I was in basically forced all the first years to interact with each other, which I initially didn't want to do. But it ended up being maybe the most valuable part of the program, because I made some lifelong friends who I learned a lot from and got a lot of support from. Obviously there's an aspect of luck involved - the other people there could've been a bunch of jerks - but without the initial push I never would have met anybody.

>But so far I haven't encountered even 1 person like that irl
Where have you looked? I guarantee there are people out there who are even more knowledgeable than you in your interests. And the wonderful thing about the modern age is you don't necessarily have to do it irl at all. We're on a website for interacting with people with shared interests right now, after all.

>>12698872
This all loops back to my original post though. Clearly, you are a person who enjoys the company of people more than losing yourself in escapism or art or media or whatever you wanna call it. You are the 99.9% of people. Which is fine, but I'm not one of you. I don't want or need the same things.

>>12696260
Autism

>>12698074
I'm one of those freaks who prefers MMOs solo. Always did. I just like being surrounded by real people but treating them like NPCs.

>>12698338
Star Wars Old Republic had a pretty good solo experience last I played if you're at all interested in that universe. Each class has their own little story, or at least it did when I tried it a decade ago. Not FF quality of course.

>>12696251
I don't tell people about anything I like. It's too great a risk. All people do is use it as fuel to make fun of you

>>12696260
Yeah, I've been there. You can like the same thing as someone else and still be on completely different wave lengths

>>12698879
I can enjoy both, and on some level you must enjoy both too, otherwise why are you here socializing with other people instead losing yourself in escapism or art or media?

>>12698921
>otherwise why are you here socializing with other people
Because 4chan is drop-in, drop-out, 0 commitment, barebones, stripped down to the absolute essential communication. It's like 1% as taxing as talking to people irl or having friends on discord or whatever.

>>12698930
You can ask the same question, the same topic at different times of day and get completely different threads.

>>12696260
Other people do enjoy things like we do, it's just that it's other things.
The right people need to find the right thing at the right time, to be able to have a passionate opinion about something with other passionate people. To decide to go all in and invest free time and effort into learning about something, and also cash.
You can't just show things to people and expect them to "get it". Sometimes they do, but it's rare. It's like advertising.
It's more common to accidentally fall into a rabbit hole of a thing you really enjoy by accident and slowly become more into it.
Also as people age their free time and tolerance for learning curves decrease a lot. Most retro games are bad at that. They were made for kids with a lot of free time and few alternatives. You'll enjoy losing and retrying Mega Man much more when you have 3 other games and a few books and magazines to spend and afternoon with instead of 30.000 games and everything that's on the internet.

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>>12699384
Sorry but this reads like massive cope. I know people feel insulted when I say they're not """"real gamers"""" but by my standards you're just not. You're not into games, you like one or two games. Just like you're not into cycling but you enjoy riding a bike.

>>12699743
Somehow I doubt these are real people feeling insulted by you in real conversations that happened in real life.

>>12698895
Im sorry you have been hurt before but good people especially friends should take joy in Your pass times. Dont let malicious individuals prevent you from connecting with others that would be thrilled with your passion.

>>12699743
Real

>me me me my recommendations
So how about you anons being on the receiving end?

>>12696260
I sympathise with this post but yes it's more autistic than otherwise. Autists generally speaking aren't very well equipped for the practice of having a back-and-forth discussion. It's very ordinary that people will disagree - on subject matter interpretations, for example - but sadly it's well known that autists struggle with the concept of other people having different opinions. Those back-and-forths are what normal people want, just take a look at any opinion section in a newspaper or listen to a sport pundit - they get those roles because their employers know they are often trying their hardest to come up with alternative interpretations.
If you think the point of a discussion is to head towards a conclusion where people agree with you, you may be autistic. Those counterpoints - oh god no! - that you may risk encountering are good, not bad.

>>12699917
"The socialising I get out of being involved with video games is more important than the games themselves" isn't a disagreement of opinions, it's two fundamentally opposite views of the world. And I don't need or want people like that in my life. I want the tiny % of weirdos like me who value games over people.

>>12696251
This thread was a showcase on how self-centered autismos are

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>>12699928
This. I'll counterpoint the argument that it is "autistic"
Starting with a side tangent; A lot of things that are inherently masculine get called autistic nowadays. "Men are interested in things, women are interested in people". Generally. So when you try to show normies of the female persuasion something, she immediately starts trying to relate it to people or appeal to popularity or focus on the social aspect of say, an mmo. Whereas men will always gravitate towards lore or game mechanics. Often when showing a woman something, she's judging ME not the object I'm showing her. It is bizarre until you just accept it. Like that post said, many treat all mediums as a tool to socialize.
Men aren't autistic, women are just normies, and we' ve let them set the tone a bit too much.

Sophists are people that are basically hivemind social climber materialists. They dislike philosophers and intelligent people who don't play their social games. They are that friend who when you play almost any song or game they'll say "this shits weird, bro" (the current meta for them is to hate old things and consume consume consume new things because it makes them feel like they're participating. Having critical thoughts about any new popular thing, or critically praising an old thing makes them terribly uncomfortable. Most are not able to form opinions on their own)

They're irritating and actually stupid. They're rude, and they're spiritually devoid.
But you'd put their failings as humans on a pedestal? You'd put the blame on US? We're the social retards? The "autists"?


Nah. At risk of being memed on I'm gonna say that we're the beautiful ones. We have rich internal worlds and we deeply appreciate the artistry in a medium or piece of work

Normies, sensors, low IQs, hylics, they hate us cuz they ain't us. There are probably personality disorders that could describe them, idk why we're the ones that get pathologized with the autism label.

>>12700240
>So when you try to show something
>say, an mmo.
Imagine if autismos put their energy into something interesting

Or... the games you like just aren't that good.

>>12700240
>hylics
based gnostic anon.

>>12700293
You took the example too literal. I hate mmos dude they're gay and waste time. But I'm just using it as an easy example, a genre that both men and women play. But they engage with it completely differently. Women like floating around guilds and voice chat, men like grinding.

Women like movies because they like hot actors and they like the people they watch movies with. Men like movies because they like directors and cinematography

"Autists" or smart people SHOULD use their time more wisely, sure. Media consumption is kind of a focus/time trap as a general rule. But, here we all are, trying to communicate with others who share our retro gaming hobby. Everyone here is wasting their time and everyone here would be considered "autistic" and weird compared to the pop country listening Netflix watching normalfaggots that we were talking about and comparing ourselves to.

All I'm saying is maybe we are right and they are wrong. Equals at best. I don't like the sentiment that those of us with attachments to certain media beyond passing consumption are the ones who are flawed

I mean, I guess a Buddhist or something might make that argument that attachment to retro games is somehow bad for the soul, idk.

>>12700378
>you're too literal
Actually no, but you're too far up your own ass to see, you tismo timmy

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>>12700240
>normies of the female persuasion

I agree with anons here. Only thing I'll say is that you can't trust normies of the female persuasion to not have a penis these days