It's the home of the two most influential video games in history.
True. It was incredible to experience in real time.Both are also still great today, only surpassed in performance/tech, not in design.
>>12701267>be American millennial>live in cozy upper-middle class area>soccer mom buys you a Nintendo 64 because The 700 Club told her that PlayStation games have blood>parents can also afford you to buy the entire Rareware library>since you are rich and American, your family are also early adopters of the internet>lo and behold, everyone else online is also a rich American from a Nintendo 64 household>Ocarina group masturbation session ensues>The internet universally agrees that ReDeads are the scariest things ever invented because none of you ever played Silent Hill>Internet gaming culture is built upon the idea that everyone owned a Nintendo 64 and everyone agrees Ocarina of Time is unambiguously the best game ever made>Fast forward 20 years>Euros, Aussies, and working class Americans are now online>You find out that the Nintendo 64 absolutely fucking bombed outside of middle America and nobody gives a fuck about Ocarina of Time>Even in the US the N64 was massively outsold by the PS1, let alone abroad>Persecution complex ensues>"This can't be........did.....did I shit my pants over Wind Waker's graphics for nothing?">Start calling Ocarina underrated due to the fact that people who've played more than 1 fucking game don't think it's the best
>>12701267Imagine posting toddler slop and not something cool like Turok and Perfect Dark. OP not beating the faggot allegations.
>>12701314>boring console fps slop that's BTFO by any pc fps even doom>but I'm so mature and le darkNo, you're a child desperately trying to be a big boy
>>12701303Sheeeeeeeit lmao
>>12701303based and accurate
>>12701303This LARP long ass saturday night virgin session write up with samefag replying seasoning is instantly invalidated by the fact console wars were always there and there's archives of it.People admitting to not being idorts is like 99,99% of internet video game talk since day 1
>those poor kids who owned a n64 and were endlessly bullied are now shitting up /vr/ with these threads
>>12701369People who grew up during the 5th gen are now pushing 40 and most left with the 2020 rule change. Most of today's /vr/ is 6th and 7th gen guys, maybe even some 8th gen too. Many of them play 5th gen for the first time now.
>>12701369>>12701372Correct but also wrong, yes we are not boomers but >what are hand me downs>what is emulation In fact we have a better and more objective view of gen 5 since we played all the consoles at the same time without having to go though your only one console and console wars nonsense, and the obvious is that N64 and PS1 are both awesome and the Saturn fucking sucks.SM64 and 3d Zeldas are awesome and highly influential games and saying otherwise is console warring boomer cope.
>>12701267That would be Tomb Raider (1996) and GTA III (2001)
>>12701379>TR Lmao>GTA 3 True but not for the same reason as Oot and Sm64
>>12701267>OoT is one of the most influential video games in history No wonder modern games suck.
It's a shame we'll probably never again experience these great leaps in videogames. Remember watching space world or E3 excited about what they are gonna come up with next?
>>12701267you just don't have a soul if you didn't grow up playing 2 out of these 3:super mario 64ocarina of timestar fox 64
>>12701380I think that you are too desperate for validation or attention.The word you are looking for is INSPIRATIONAL.As for influentional, there are more games trying to be like Tomb Raider or GTA III (or a mix of both), through the generations, than Mario 64 and OOT.
>>12701267Hell yeah. People shit on the N64 back in the day for not having enough games and they shit on it now for not ageing well, but it had some damned good games you couldn't really get anywhere else. They were great then, and they are great now. When you only got 2-4 games max a year the N64 had plenty. If you were blessed to have a PS too, you were set with games the N64 didn't have. Either way, having both back then, I like the N64 more back then and I like it more now.I mean just look at this stacked first year releases and tell me you needed more.
>>12701404>GTA 3For a moment during the sixth gen? Yeah, not so much beyond that when all those companies realized how hard making a gta clone is.>TRLiterally never, when anyone give a fuck about this? No one gives a fuck about crystaldynamics
>>12701417>No one gives a fuck about crystaldynamicsPrince of Persia and Duke Nukem franchises evolved using TR as a model, and many GTA many clones emerged during the sixth generation. I didn't see developers desperate to create a game like Mario or Zelda. Not even players desperate for games like this. Remember that the N64 was the third wheel in Japan. There is no sign of the N64's influence anywhere. Perhaps at Sega, when they created their own Mario 64 with Sonic Adventure, but it didn't paid off.>>12701391The last two goty are a turn based games, so the people are starting to wake up.
>>12701430>Prince Persia>Duke NukemMediocre dead franchises, a shitty doom clone and one more important than tomb raider will ever be as the influence behind all cinematic platformers, dumb post>muh 1% difference in Japan!Ah, a segacope retard
>>12701378glazing the n64's primitive slop is console warring cope. you are fooling nobody.
>>12701405aged like milk.
>>12701437You really need to burst your bubble.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlna8d8Jpw4
>>12701267But GTA wasn't on the 64
>>12701437nta but I accept your concession
>>12701449>>12701453I only see retards desperate to label forgotten games as "important" because they are American
>>12701324>disliking childish things really makes YOU the childManchild cope
>>12701457>I can't like good thing because there is no blood!No, this is manchild behavior
>>12701267Yeah, I'm very grateful for these games for opening up everyone's eyes. Without them, who knows how much longer devs would've kept shovelling out tankslop for thirdworld retards. Crazy how it took until SM64 for a 3D action game to not feel like shit to play. So many games in different genres like Half-Life learned from that game. Some lardass neckbeard is probably gonna go muh Quake, but SM64 is more impressive because it's third-person and not just a rehash of Doom full of diarrhea-colored dungeons. My favorite SM64-likes are the original Spyro trilogy, which were made in response to it. OOT also feels good to play and has a really good camera.
>>12701468Tomb raider? YesGta 3? Also yes, San Andreas made 3 and Vice City beyond irrelevant
>>12701469>San Andreas made 3 and Vice City beyond irrelevantHell no. San Andreas's levels are all about driving for 10 minutes at a time without any meaningful obstacles.
>>12701479Because when you say Grand Theft Auto everyone thinks of piloting awful remote control helicopters
n64 games don't do it for me because the 3d gameplay is too primitive. The games are quintessential non-disctint empty cuboid level design. Like yeah bro...this is totally better than metal gear solid...I don't even know what this is supposed to be.
>>12701682Not sure why you bring up MGS but if it's because Hybrid Heaven was rumoured to be "n64's answer to mgs", I think that was just a rumour, don't think the actual devs ever intended it to be similar. Though, ir shared some devs with the MSX Metal Gear games and Snatcher, and doesnhave MGS references, but you play Hybrid Heaven for the combat, to thos day a very unique blend of semi-real time/semi-turn based limb-based 3D fighting/wrestling.The level design is indeed nothing special, just an average dungeon crawler with some survival horror-esque moments
>>12701691>I think that was just a rumourIt also became a post-facto tagline
>>12701303That's nice, but factually speaking The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time is the greatest game of all time. You see, it has a 99 rating on Metacritic, which is higher than every other game. Please see the quoted text:>The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time for the Nintendo 64 is the only game in Metacritic history to hold a 99 scoreI understand there may be other games you personally like more, for nostalgic reasons etc, but objectively speaking this is the best one. I don't mean to argue, I'm just sharing this information incase you're unaware. Thanks.
>>12701701Stop liking Japanese games.Start liking British games.
>>12701269>It was incredible to experience in real time.Fuck, i had a Playstation back in the day.
>>12701708Me too.But I also got the N64 at release.I know I'm in a minority
>>12701303>>lo and behold, everyone else online is also a rich American from a Nintendo 64 householdI'm glad times changed, faggot!
>>12701405That Goldeneye box is pure cash.
>>12701303I'm a Europoor and I had an N64. It was cheaper and came with a free game too. All the kids that I knew and grew up with videogames had one. Super Mario 64, OoT and Pokemon Stadium were the shit back then. The kids that had a ps1 were the illiterate delinquents of the school, mostly upper middle class, that used to hate videogames for being "childish" and got a ps1 because it was "edgy" and "mature". They only played the same shitty racing games, because they suck in everything else. I especially remember one classmate who was constantly arguing that ps1 is the stronger device and had better graphics than n64, only for him in the end to get a Donkey Kong 64 pack and admiting that n64 was better.
>>12701462>Some lardass neckbeard is probably gonna go muh Quake, but SM64 is more impressive because it's third-person and not just a rehash of Doom full of diarrhea-colored dungeons.What the fuck is you problem?Fuck you!!!
>>12701303Seriously seriously pathetic snoy revision cope lmao. I am british grew up poor owned an N64 and OoT. I always knew the ps1 was more popular, it was the pleb choice. I never imagined that would be any different in America, as you confirm it wasn't. So your next big idea is that nobody online knew silent hill in the 2000s lol?You are one of the millions of snoys who grew up viewing Nintendo as the weird, kiddy, cringe choice while real mature gamers like yourself played metal gear reddit. You lived in that snoy bubble then you got internet access and discovered the weird cringe choice mogged your favourite mature deep games in the eyes of actual gamers. In more honest moments you know fundamentally you missed out on an essential gaming experience of the 1990s. You have been crying about it for ~20 years and you will continue crying about it.
>>12701721>>12701730it has nothing to do with "mature" or "edgy", but everything to do with actually having played more than 1 game. your illiteracy is astounding.
>>12701887>having played more than 1 game. And yet you somehow neglected to play the highest rated game of the 90s. Which is also the highest rated game of all time (see pic for further details). I am sorry you missed out on a peak experience but crying about it today is not going to change the 99 score on Metacritic. I am sure you still had fun with Silent Reddit and Tomb Reddit, not as much fun or depth as a Metacritic 99 rated experience, which only applies to one game which was not available on Sony systems. But it's not a competition anyway.
>>12701978/thread
>>12701269It's crazy how games went from 8bit zelda 1 to full 3d worlds in ocarina in just a decade. Living through it made you genuinely feel like we were going to have full on true to life virtual reality by 2012. Meanwhile nowadays the gaming industry is just them rereleasing games made before 2012 because they're out of ideas.
The best N64 game is still worse than the best PS game.
>>12701701>That's nice, but factually speaking The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time is the greatest game of all time.By whose authority? A bunch of zelda fans who think the franchise is perfect and can do no wrong? A bunch of faggots that ONLY play Zelda and hate the idea of expanding their horizons?Zelda fanboyism can only be cured with playing other games.
>>12702056this is by far the most trans response ever
>>12701978>muh ratings!>muh scores at the time!>journos are infallible!meanwhile, user score is 9.1, and plenty of other games have far more actual reviews while maintaining a higher score. "the novelty was so impressive at the time" is meaningless when anyone with two braincells capable of rubbing together to generate a thought can recognize that time moves on, and more and better things exist. its like trying cocacola for the first time in your life, being blown away by it, giving it a top score, and then being unable to ever change that score. no matter how you grow and develop, no matter what else you taste and experience, nothing can top that because its already written down. what a willfully ignorant fallacy, completely devoid of critical thought. it is desperate cope of the highest magnitude.
>>12701887I got like 2 games a year dude. N64 had plenty of titles for someone like me. And I insist, all the morons in school who made fun of videogamers, got a ps1 because it was the """serious""" console. And they all had the same games in shitty copied CDs: Gran Tourismo 2, Colin McRaye Rally, Driver etc. No one ever heard or played Final Fantasy or Symphony of the Night, which are considered the top games on the system. I had a classmate who watched the second Fast and the Furious movie and he got obsessed with Nissan Skyline. And he collected every version of it on GT2. At the same time he made fun of pokemon players for being "nerds"!
>>12702035>It's crazy how games went from 8bit zelda 1 to full 3d worlds in ocarina in just a decade. Living through it made you genuinely feel like we were going to have full on true to life virtual reality by 2012.yes, it was a crazy time to be alive. potential and promise were so high.>just them rereleasing games made before 2012 because they're out of ideasyes and no.in many ways, it is difficult to impossible to make a game that actually does something different at its core. boiling things down to their design elements, pretty much everything has already been done, each game just has a different presentation coat of paint and minor difference in execution. however, the biggest reason for all of the rereleases/remakes is suits. the complete demand for "number go up" more money, and that they "need" a "sure thing". they "cant" risk/gamble on a new ip/idea. thats why AAA is so soulless now, and indie games are where most people are actually finding their fun.
>>12702062>I got like 2 games a year dudenot beating the "didnt play games" allegations. thank you for the concession though.>got a ps1 because it was the """serious""" consoleconsole politics are irrelevant.>No one ever heard or played Final Fantasy or Symphony of the Nightim sure that anecdotal evidence from your poor, autistic, anti-social ass is extremely reliable, and that peers from your socio-economic background are an accurate snapshot the youth at large.>he got obsessed with Nissan Skyline. And he collected every version of it on GT2.hyperfixation is cringe. its just a car.>At the same time he made fun of pokemon players for being "nerds"!based. hyperfixation is cringe, and pokemon is baby cartoon shit, making it double cringe.
>>12702057says the zelda tranny.
>>12701303Real. Sheltered white and asian amerizoomerlenials: take heed.
>>12702035Just as ken kutaragi pictured it. 10 years of miniaturization and advancement brought 3D home.
>>12701887>it has nothing to do with "mature" or "edgy">>12702079>pokemon is baby cartoon shitSnoy moment
>>12701303>being born into a family not suffering from poverty is actually le cringelmao
>>12702060>meanwhile, user score is 9.1, and plenty of other games have far more actual reviews while maintaining a higher score. "the novelty was so impressive at the time" is meaningless when anyone with two braincells capable of rubbing together to generate a thought can recognize that time moves on, and more and better things exist.>its like trying cocacola for the first time in your life, being blown away by it, giving it a top score, and then being unable to ever change that score. no matter how you grow and develop, no matter what else you taste and experience, nothing can top that because its already written down. what a willfully ignorant fallacy, completely devoid of critical thought. it is desperate cope of the highest magnitude.That's nice dude, I just checked Metacritic again it's actually still the highest rated game of all time.
>>12702110keep blindly defending it, anon. im sure it will fuck you eventually.
>>12702079>not beating the "didnt play games" allegations. thank you for the concession though.Mario 64 and OoT are better than every game on the ps1>console politics are irrelevant.Ps1 was the console which brought to gaming the dyslexic, edgelord teenager who only could play racing games and fap to Lara Croft's triangle tits. It's history.>im sure that anecdotal evidence from your poor, autistic, anti-social ass is extremely reliable, and that peers from your socio-economic background are an accurate snapshot the youth at large.Did YOU play Final Fantasy back in the day? Or it had too difficult text to comprehend for your dyslexia?>hyperfixation is cringe. its just a car.I agree, he was a nerd dork but he larped as tough gang leader in the neighboorhood>pokemon is baby cartoon shitTypical ps1 player, did you also got mad when someone brought up tha the ps1 had only 32 bits compared to N64 that had double?
>>12702106i dont think you understand. other consoles/games arent better because they're "more mature/edgy", they're better because they're better games and have more variety/experiences to offer. at the same time, dunking on pokemon obsessed faggots is based (and dunking on carsexual faggots is also based). these arent contradictory things.
Why are snoys so butthurt about a 30 year old game?
>>12702124Doesn't matter, in the 90s if your console didn't have mario or zelda it was in 2nd place. Simple as.
>>12702117Mario 64 and oot aren't particularly good games you should try more games 64kun
>>12702117>Mario 64 and OoT are better than every game on the ps1zealot cope>Ps1 was wildly more popular and bought by far more people. yes, the degenerates are included in those numbers. it happens. you're literally just mad that your bully had a ps1, so you think that you're justified.>Did YOU play Final Fantasy back in the day?yes. growing up i had nes, snes, genesis, n64, ps1, ps2, and gamecube. friends also had similar systems, as well as dreamcast and xbox. i played everything. we also had atari, but i didnt enjoy those games as much, and it was a pain to hook up and switch consoles with the tv that we had, so we just left the snes and genesis hooked up for the most part. >did you also got mad when someone brought up tha the ps1 had only 32 bits no, because such technical nonsense was irrelevant to me. i cared about games and end results. by the same token, i couldnt begin to give a shit about fps, and i firmly believe that nobody would if they couldnt see it measured with a number (as long as it was smooth/consistent without drops or choppiness).
>>12701978>99 score on MetacriticThese scores exist because the journalists covering Nintendo have always been biased. You can pick up any Nintendo magazine from the 90s to immediately see that blatant bootlicking behavior in each paragraph. A modern example of this is the woke weirdos giving a 10/10 scores to their favorite products, such as the Mixtape game and the new Odyssey movie.In my opinion, the N64 really does have the best games for the young audience. That is indisputable. I can't think of anything better for kindergarteners or first graders to play with after school. Mario 64 is so captivating at first glance. Perhaps that is what these review scores and Nintendo journalists are referring to.Also, If OOT were truly that good, the console wouldn't have failed so badly, given that the N64 has the biggest drop in sales in the history of Nintendo's retro consoles. No console with such great games would have failed so badly.
>>12702141>These scores exist because the journalists covering Nintendo have always been biased. You can pick up any Nintendo magazine from the 90s to immediately see that blatant bootlicking behavior in each paragraph. A modern example of this is the woke weirdos giving a 10/10 scores to their favorite products, such as the Mixtape game and the new Odyssey movie.>In my opinion, the N64 really does have the best games for the young audience. That is indisputable. I can't think of anything better for kindergarteners or first graders to play with after school. Mario 64 is so captivating at first glance. >Perhaps that is what these review scores and Nintendo journalists are referring to.>Also, If OOT were truly that good, the console wouldn't have failed so badly, given that the N64 has the biggest drop in sales in the history of Nintendo's retro consoles. No console with such great games would have failed so badlyYeah... or the game with the highest score is just the best game? lol
>>12702151What are you waiting for to worship Zelda The Wind Waker?
>>12702136>zealot copeThey hated him for telling the truth>wildly more popular and bought by far more people. yes, the degenerates are included in those numbers. it happens. you're literally just mad that your bully had a ps1, so you think that you're justified.Not my bully, on the contrary my best friend. He was a moron though and like most of the ps1 players back in the day couldn't even platform, just shitty racing gamer.>yes. growing up i had nes, snes, genesis, n64, ps1, ps2, and gamecube. friends also had similar systems, as well as dreamcast and xbox. i played everything. we also had atari, but i didnt enjoy those games as much, and it was a pain to hook up and switch consoles with the tv that we had, so we just left the snes and genesis hooked up for the most part.Oh my... I only had a shitty famiclone and an N64. I played most games in emulators later on a friends IBM thinkpad. American, as a europoor, I kneel...>no, because such technical nonsense was irrelevant to me. i cared about games and end results. by the same token, i couldnt begin to give a shit about fps, and i firmly believe that nobody would if they couldnt see it measured with a number (as long as it was smooth/consistent without drops or choppiness).Well you're younger than me, back in my day it was a bits vs bits console war. I too thought it was irrelevant.
>>12702136>zealot copeCope for what? Care to remind me which PS2 game has a 99 on Metacritic? Lol
>>12702057Zelda is a tranny game.
Snoy meltdown thread
>buzzword zoomer entered the thread>>>/v/Go back
>>12701303the amount of people replying to this post is interesting, I guess there are new people coming to this board I figured it had 0 growth. Probably explains why the exact same threads every week are full of the same boring discussions.
>>buzzword zoomer entered the thread>>>>/v/>Go back
>>12702179It's a copypasta and most of the people replying to it is the same faggot.
>>12701701Okay, fuck you!!!!
>>12702158>I only had a shitty famiclone and an N64.>so obviously i think its the greatest thing since beans on toastgrim.
>>12702162>journo scores are objective and immutable. >actual content and progress means nothing, only the journo scorelmao zealots really they have something with this
>>12701721>>12701730The sales numbers don't lie: the Nintendo 64 flopped everywhere except the United States.
>>12702669I figure this is the part where someone calls you retarded.
>>12701303>Playstation>working classkek it was the exact opposite. Sony has always marketed the Playstation as some sort of elite luxury gaming brand
>>12702831It's one of the most pirated consoles of all time along with Famicom
>>12702056>Zelda fanboyism can only be cured with playing other games.Quite the opposite.The more I play other games, the clearer it is just how superior Zelda is to everything else and how nothing is a real substitute for it.
>>12703026Spoken like a true nintendrone
>>12701267True. I don't think it is as great as some people claim it is, but anyone saying it is the most overrated console of all time can fuck off. It did not sold nearly as well as its competition and many worse console with much higher sales have come up since then.
>>12705481you dont understand what "overrated" means. you're literally overrating it right now in this post.
>>12702163>being trans is badBegging the question. Nintendo's most popular characters such as Birdo from SMB2 are trans.
>>12701402Do I have extra soul for playing all 3?
>>12701267Nintendo taught the industry how to make 3D games. Otherwise every 3D platformer would play like Bubsy 3D.
>>12701269Fpbp
>>12701701>it's objective because a critic said it
>>12701303Truth, tendies are manchildren trying to astroturf the n64 and gamecube as culturally relevant consoles when nobody gave a fuck about them until jewtubers started shilling for it.
>>12701682This. Mario 64 is unplayable dogshit that looks like a working prototype instead of an actual polished game.
>>12701682Not enough cutscenes for you?
>>12708658Not enough good gameplay.
I like Paper Mario :)
>>12702831>Sony has alwaysirrelevant as to the reality of what people actually bought and ownedThe PSX was cheaper than the N64 and the games were often MUCH cheaper.
>>12702056>Zelda fanboyism can only be cured with playing other games.In 2026 it's far too late for that.Ocarina's qualty is axiomatic to them. It's the first principle. The quality of any other game is evaluated based on its degree of similarity to Ocarina of Time and the feelings OoT evoked in them when they were 10 and playing it on Christmas Morning.
>>12705519yeah, but the soul overflow manifests as autism
>>12709035Checks out.
>>12701303So does this just confirm that people who hate the n64 are poor browns?
>>12709163no, it confirms that the people that prop it up as the best thing ever were sheltered american retards, and that even poor browns can recognize that its not that great since they played more than one game in their lives. its less about "hate" and more about simply recognizing that its just not that good.
>>12709238Holy crap, look at all this cope... Did you enjoy your fucking Zeebo? Pushing hula hoops around with sticks? Kicking cans? Stop talking about things you have no idea about before you convince the entire site you're retarded. Jesus Christ...
>>12709259>zeebonever heard of it>Pushing hula hoops around with sticks? Kicking cans? yes, because i had a childhood.only a tendie retard would think anything i said was "cope". good job outing yourself.
>>12709267OK, enjoy your cope. I'll be playing literally all the consoles because my parents could afford them all, not just a PS1 or N64.
>>12709278really? me too. thats why i can recognize how overrated the n64 is. if you're doing all of that and are still putting it on a pedestal, then you simply out yourself as mentally deficient.
>>12709301Sorry, are you still posting? I can't read you over all the HUHs, HIYAHs and SCRAAAAAAAAHs of the GOAT game.
>>12709329>fingers in ears going "LALALALALA"i appreciate your admission, demonstration, and concession to my point. very good job.
>>12709339>hey guess what!>you conceded because i said so after i ran out of arguments!Don't you have menus to click through and cutscenes to watch? What are you doing on a video game board?
>>12709349you're the one admitting to having no arguments and choosing to drown out reality with noise.
>>12709238>sheltered americanSo, rich people in the best nation in the entire world? Damn, must've sucked being an N64 owner...
Neither of those influenced anything.In fact, the ocarina idea + mechanics + controls were stolen wholesale from Monster World 3 on the Megadrive.
>>12709358>n-no U!OK.>>12709361>MegadriveOpinion discarded.>two seconds on youtube>MW3 clearly plays NOTHING like OoTLOL.
>>12709361Nintendo stole everything
>>12709382We no longer live in an age of invention. We live in an age of refinement, and Nintendo is the KING of refinement, but thanks for beta testing!
>>12709382this is a retarded chart and only gives tendies fuel.
>>12709382>thinks d-pad means digitalRetarded or bait. Maybe both.
>>12709394Like state here >>12701303 nintendo kids lived segregated. They had no perspective or knowledge regarding what was happening outside their little Nintendo world. (see Plato's allegory of the cave).The result? They resorted to circlejerking with blatant lies, self-affirmations and delusions (like this thread) to cope with the realization that Nintendo wasn't the divine entity they had been led to believe it was. That's how deranged they are. The guy who created this collage was probably tired of so many false claims created by the nintendo community.
>>12709425>omg nintendo fucking sucks dude!>no i cant name a single better console or specific game!>i HATE grapes!
The ressentiment the N64 causes on this board is very sad.
White European here, many people I knew at the time had both an N64 and a PSX, because people really wanted the good games on both. Most people also owned a PC to play games on, too, and everyone had a Game Boy.
>>12709550What about the Sega Saturn?
>>12709458Devil's advocate, the PS1 SHOULD feel all-around better than the N64, but N64 just has that je ne sais quoi, while every PS1 game looks like you're on acid and controls like you're drunk. It's like devs didn't realize it had a joystick, let alone two. I mean, it didn't have any for the first 3 years of its lifespan, but it was sold for 12 years. There's no excuse as to why you can't SCHMOOVE half as hard in any PS1 game as you can in Mario 64.
>>12709556Man, I never even HEARD of the Saturn until recently, which is weird because I did have a Genesis.
>>12709557Lots of psx owners didn't own dual shock. As a dev, do you want to target the entire massive install base or just a fraction of it? And big franchises like Final Fantasy just stuck with their winning formula.
>>12709425The pasta is technically false but meaningfully true. It's over-generalized but explains the world well.The picture is technically true but meaningfully false. It's autistic foolishness, lacking wisdom and perspective.
>>12709556I never found out it even existed until I learned about it online in the 2000s. Apparently that's not unusual in some countries? That it was really poorly marketed in a lot of places.To us, there was just this weird gap between the Mega Drive and the Dreamcast.
>>12701267N64 was the PS3 of its erayou can count the games it had in one hand so you have to prop it up with 'accolades'
>>12709798It literally could have just had those two games and it would still mog any other console before, during or since, but if you wanna talk quantity, it also had Majora's Mask, Kazooie, Tooie, Donkey Kong- wait a minute... Uh oh, that's SIX games. How many fingers do you have?
>>12709810>It literally could have just had those two games and it would still mog any other console before, during or sinceim so glad BOTW fans are tearing you old farts a new one, the OoT remake being another reskin of that game would send you retards into a Jonestown size mass suicide
>>12709814Hmm... no, I think I would just continue enjoying the GOAT.
>>12709267>Sheltered tendie whose parents raised him on the telly is genuinely mocking kids for going outside
>>12709163yes, see>>12709238
>>12709441>>12709458even if somebody doesnt say "n64 sucks" and just says "n64 is fine, but other things are better" you clowns still have a white knight meltdown about it.
>>12709940>even if somebody just says "n64 is fine, but other things are better"literally never happened, keep throwing fits about nintendo though you psycho
>>12701267Didn't Croc (a random obscure nothing) sell almost as well as mario64 and wasn't zelda outsold by tekken 3
>>12709961>Didn't Croc (a random obscure nothing) sell almost as well as mario64lmao no
>>12709940Well, maybe you should stop spreading lies if you don't want to get destroyed with facts and logic.>>12709961It never happened, and if it did, it's fake news.
>>12709960>>1270996364 is fine, there isn't much to say about it.
>>12701267I genuinely became bored with Ocarina of Time, and never finished it. I still own the game pak and system to this day, and in principle I could hook it back up and try again, but I'd want a CRT or something like that.I think what happened at the time was that I got autistically fixated on doing everying in kid mode before he goes into adult mode or whatever. I think maybe he can reverse back and forth between the two states but I'm not sure.I had a good time with SM64, but especially Pilotwings 64. The great thing about Pilotwings 64 is that when you complete every challenge 100%, the saved state in the top menu is shown as "PERFECT." That was a game that both encouraged free play and also validated pathological completionism, akin to the death drive.
>>12709965That's funny... The highest rated game of all time isn't on YOUR preferred console...
>>12709960>>12709963>>12710021you're literally just trolling.
>>12709967you change a minimum of 3 times (kid to adult, adult to kid, kid to adult) to beat the game. for various side quests and goodies you need to do more.
>played OoT from start to finish for the first time ever about 2-3 years ago>found the game to be charming, but mostly a chore (only finished it out of personal commitment)Definitely not a game worth making a fuss over. It’s so ridiculously archaic compared to modern games that even if you can appreciate it for being a pioneer, that doesn’t make the game itself any more exciting to play.
>>12709163Yes, and that those who like it are sheltered white or asian burgerzoomerlenials who grew up eating cereal with milk, watching saturday morning cartoons, and then eventually getting diabetes at an early age
>>12709259You convinced me that you are a seething retard tendie kek
>>12709961Mario 64 outsold the entire ps1 library nigga
>>12701267Can't deny Zelda but how did Mario beat Rouge Trip: Vacation?
>>12710216>>12710273>>12710275>>12710396Snoys out in force today...
>>12710689True. But also true: OoT is the most overrated game of all time. This guy is clearly just being honest: >>12710216, and now you're all mad about it.
>>12710706Neither of you are being honest, snoy. You probably haven't even played it and the other guy is clearly a paid shill. Everyone who actually played the game and wasn't paid to cover up their true opinion thinks it's a masterpiece. That's just a fact. Whether your blatant lies make me mad or not is irrelevant. They're still lies.
>>12710396Vigilante 8 1 and 2 shit all over Rogue Trip and the Twisted Metals
>>12710216I gave it a try, but those noises began to hurt my dignity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfTGj3sM-JA&pp=ygUPb290IGxpbmsgbm9pc2Vz
>>12701397Imagine, that outdated kiddie crap on the right was released the same year that Quake, Duke Nukem 3D, Red Alert, Diablo, Daggerfall, Civ 2 and so on were released on PC.Jesus.
>>12710786>>12710787Notice how the snoy could be enjoying threads about all of those games he mentioned, but chooses to cry in this thread instead.
>>12710787>poop brown the generic fps>the most 12 year old core game>Boring RTS shit>Slow 2d click simulator >a tech demo>boring slow >>127107192d simBoy I'm glad I grew up with consoles and got a pc when they started getting good games during the late 00's
>>12710719>Everyone who actually played the game and wasn't paid to cover up their true opinion thinks it's a masterpiece.It's simply not true.I played it at release a few times over christmas break (my younger cousin had it), wasn't impressed but didn't think much about it. I filed it as a kid game that wasn't for me, alongside Pokemon which was also all the rage at the time and said little cousin was also really into. Then a decade or so later after being surrounded by all the absurd hype I tried it again and if anything, liked it even less. At the time, I would take notes and document my play sessions to share with the webforum I frequented at the time. Would post something like: "Played for 90 minutes last night and here's all the exciting stuff that didn't happen because I had to complete these mundane tasks for NPCs," just to put some actual numbers to the tedium I was experiencing. At some point someone on that board suggested that Dark Souls might be more up my alley. I tried it, and they were 100% correct.Funnily enough, it was shortly after that, that a certain millennial eceleb posted a video on YouTube that Ocarina fans have never recovered from and still cry about to this day.Still have never played any Pokemon game ever, though.
>>12710815Wow. What a cope.
>>12710802What the fuck does snoy have to do with anything? The Playstations were also shit.>>12710804Hey, you must be Chris-chan's even more autistic cousin.
>>12710802I spent 10 minutes on this thread, I spent 2.5 hours last week listening to an interview with a guy who worked on Thief: The Dark Project.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73Do0OScoOUAnd I've also been messing around with FF Tactics, a game I (re-)played in 1998 instead of Ocarina of Time.
>>12710819Cope for what?
>>12710821>snoys dont even like their own consolePathetic...>>12710824>i listened to a guy talk about a game and messed around with a menu simulatorThis is a board for video games, anon.>>12710827You know what.
>>12710830Consoles made after the 80s or the early early 90s are for faggots.
>>12710832Yeah, kind of... N64 still objectively has the best games of all time.
>>12710839No, it's awful and stuck in the past. The few half-decent games it has are bad ports, and the popular games made for the platform are just awful and outdated.I guess it's a decent console if you consider it a platform exclusively made for kids.
>>12710830Go back to your pathetic games made for the little jimmyDon't forget to ask mommy for a McDonald's happy meal and rent Cruis'n USA for the tenth time
>>12710849>>12710853Anon, I really hope you're being paid more than minimum wage for these embarrassing takes...
>>12710857You're the poorfag who grew up consoles, faggot. I grew up with PCs.
>>12710859Bro, I've been playing PC since DOS. PC didn't catch up to consoles until the 2010s.
>>12710868I don't even know how to respond. That is probably the most retarded thing anyone has ever said on 4chan.
the zealotry is just so tiresome.
>>12710875Then get the hell out of our chad thread and post in some gay snoy thread.>>12710881We'll get 'em, bro. We WILL make the world apologize for its treatment of OoT as anything less than GOAT.
>>12710883Are you autistic? Serious question.
>>12710884You kind of have to be to recognize the GOAT. I consider it a badge of honor.
>>12710887So being autistic is kinda like being a jeet.
I have the only explanation for all this nintendo dick sucking:Being raised by a single mom, with no father figure around, makes you idolize your toys to fill the fatherless gap.My friends who had a n64 were all from single mom.
>>12701701After Fallout: New Vegas I assume every MetaCritic score is bought and paid for by the publisher.
>>12710896Nonsense. Autists are often very hygienic.>>12710902Nope. My father was all too present in my life, sadly. Try again, snoy.
>>12710904Stop lying
>>12710908Right hand to God, my father, when not working, was very much a part of life.
>>12710902>parents get divorced>they try to convince anon it isnt his fault and get him an N64>theres only a handful of decent games>anon's friends come over for his birthday party and have a great time playing goldeneye and mario kart>core memory archived>later anon goes to friend's house and is blown away by how many fun games they have>start to feel defensive about mommy and daddy's present>its always there for him when mommy and daddy are fighting>and remember that awesome birthday party?>time moves on and nintendo has the gamecube>its all mom can afford on a single income, since its soo cheap>friends dont come to anon's house because it isnt as fun>anon goes over to friend's house and plays ps2 and xbox>the disparity of how far games have progressed is even greater>"hey guys, why dont we play some goldeneye?">"why would we play that crusty shit when we have halo right here?">anon is still stuck with shit at home>anon suffers from deep depression>anon's mom wonders where it all went wrong. didnt she give her son the best?>much like his parent's marriage, reality and reason divorce in anon's mind>"n64, you were always there for me. remember that birthday party? nothing will ever top that." he says to himself in his 30s as he white knights for his console waifu on a mongolian basket weaving forum. >surely the n64 with reciprocate his feelings one of these days
>>12710913Don't bother, people of color don't know how it is like to have a present father figure in their homes
>>12710883you're the retarded zealot, anon.
>>12710916Big cope, snoy.>>12710923Oh, sorry, I didn't realize it was you again, mister snoy.
Zealots are the ones refusing to play games not the ones praising a game everyone likes as if it was controversial
>>12710928I play tons of games. Nothing before or since slaps even close to as hard as OoT except Majora's Mask.
>>12710928its fine to like things, but it clearly goes beyond that here. its a deliberate ignorance and denial to play or recognize the quality of other games. its the blind substitution that this ONE thing is the absolute best, with zero actual supporting evidence. its the complete rejection and denial of all evidence illustrating how it isnt the best. its the complete denial of any and all flaws with the game. you can LIKE a game and still recognize that it has flaws and isnt the best of something. but this, this is ignorant and dishonest. its zealotry.
>>12710916pretty much this
>>12710938>>12710939Holy shit, stop coping and just play OoT already. You can get an N64 for like $100 on Amazon.
>>12710945i did. i had fun with it when it came out. i was amazed by it when it came out. same with mario64 before it too. i probably spent hours fucking around just swimming with the fishes after 100% it so thoroughly. i had fun with it. but then i grew up. games progressed and got better. it became more and more evident that the n64 was primitive 3d prototype slop, and the novelty wore off. i dont have an autistic hyperfixation like you, zealot. i actually play games and enjoy them, unlike you that hates everything that isnt oot or n64 and just shits up forums with retarded nonsense.
Sure. I can agree. Very historically important games. Doesn't make me like them as games more or less, nor do I think is relevant to their quality.
>>12710952>games progressed and got better.That happened a long long time before that game came out.The game's fine for little kids, but even when it came out, it was severely outdated, basically being a game relying on decade old tropes in a very poorly rendered 3d world, and with a story and with gameplay clearly directed at kids.
>>12710956>Very historically important games.Not really. They're pretty much the opposite. They're extremely regressive games.
>>12710952>i didYou didn't. I can tell because you aren't fellating the everloving fuck out of it like the GOAT deserves. It's OK to enjoy other games. I never said it wasn't. I have other N64 carts for a reason. I'm a big fan of Banjo-Kazooie. That doesn't make OoT any less of a masterpiece. You won't even TRY OoT because you're afraid it'll mog your Metal Gear interactive movie or whatever the fuck you snoys play.
>>12710956>>12710962>>12710964Just stop it, snoy. You're acting like a damn fool.
>>12710971>snoy snoy snoy>if I use buzzwords in every post,I'll win the argumentTypical of leftists who call you a nazi, chud, facist... if don't agree with their brainwashed, entitled mentality.
>>12710962yes, but kids things can still be fun. as easy to shit on it as it is, kingdom hearts is still good fun for example.
>>12711007OoT is right-wing, snoy.>>12711008>menu simulator... NOW WITH DIDNEY!Jesus Christ, snoy, play a game for once in your life...
>OoT is right-wing, snoy.>t.
>>12711023>OoT is right-wing>ends with the foid you went on a quest and risked your life for telling you to fuck off without consentOf course
>>12711043>>12711102Thanks for confirming again that you didn't play it. What ACTUALLY clearly transpired is Link handed her the ocarina willingly. He wanted to go back.
>>12711126Thanks for making me laugh. This thread is fun af. Your favorite toy is truly an amusement
>>12710916It's literally this. N64 wankers are the Disney adults of gaming.
>>12711175>says the snoy who LITERALLY was just praising didney fantasy LX-58
>>12711147>right wing tearsso he's drinking his own tears?
>>12711189What are you talking about?
Do people really want this kind of absolutely /v/-tier shitpostingslop threads?
>>12701397>giant leap>it's just peak 2D into primitive 3Devery time.
>>12701462but things continued to be tank controls after SM64 until Halo
>>12702110been saying this forever, games should be re-reviewed every decade, you would see that score drop decade after decade to no one's surprise. it's evident that metacritic is a racket.
>>12710729>Vigilante 8what a gem, everybody is too concerned with Nintendo first parties to recognize greatness in the third parties
>>12711023What the fuck?Fuck you!!!
>>12711147WTF is this shit?!
>>12712129You had to have been there. The graphics being shit now- and I don't deny that they are- had no bearing on the wow factor then.
>>12711790this thread will reach 450+ replies and will be on the catalog for another 10 days.might as well just use /v/, at least the shitposting threads are gone quickly there.
>>12712701They never talk about any games I like. In spite of faggots and schizos using /vr/ as a septic tank now, I still find the little flakes of gold and silver here on the daily.Also, I can continue to pray to the lord that these people will get testicular cancer.
>>12712761>They never talk about any games I like.A thread doesn't start itself, anon. You can always make your own.
>>12712129How do you feel about Star Fox on SNES? Lemme guess, it's the greatest game ever because it's on your beloved super nintendo.
>>12712774Not the same anon, but for me, it's 2 (wait, does that technically count as retro?). They should have released that, delayed 64 and released 64 with both SF1 and SF2 style campaigns.
>>12701267>two most influential video games in historyBut that's not Zork or Ultima....
Snoys are mentally ill
>>12701459>if someone dislikes my childish things it's clearly because they just want blood!Cope.
>>12701701>objectively speaking>this is the best oneWell, I guess if Metacritic said so.
>>12712693I get wowed by games all the time, I feel bad for people that dont.
>>12712774Starfox on SNES sucks.
>>12712819Look at this crap>NLF 2K3 is greater than FF XMetacritic is nothing but most pathetic cope mechanismTendies only use this because it's their last copium resource. "I must hide behind review numbers because my favorite games actually sucks outside of my nostalgia".The only true factor is console sales.The best selling console is the one with the best games. Bad games make consoles to fail. No amount of paid reviews can change that fact. It is a universal truth. Especially in the 90s, a time when people still had some self-awareness and self-respect.
>>12712943Yeah game journalists have always been sellouts even back in the retro days, that's why we should start making our own reviews here
>>12712761if u think these trannies still have testicles, u got another thing cumming
>>12702056Why would i play Zelda clones when i'm literally playing the greatest games ever created?!Are you retarded?
>>12702141>You can pick up any Nintendo magazine from the 90s to immediately see that blatant bootlicking behavior in each paragraph.It's time to admit that Nintendo games are simply better.
>>12702056>By whose authority?By the only authority that matters.
>>12701267I still have alot of fun playing Zelda Ocarina of Time. Sometimes I can't believe they were able pack that much content in just 32.00 MB of data.
>>12701267forgot to mention Goldeneye?GE + OOT + M64 = The holy trinity of gaijin slop. It’s no wonder it ended up being the third wheel in Japan.
>>12714378It's not hard when most of the game is the "shoot the eye" puzzle copypasted 6 gorillion times
>>12712773Which is still easier to do here because this board is slower (and actually a lot slower these days), and is part of how I can still find people who still give a fuck and care about these games.>>12713039They still have prostates, which I can also pray for cancer upon.
>>12701730>You lived in that snoy bubble then you got internet access and discovered the weird cringe choice mogged your favourite mature deep gamesHOLY SHIT...
>>12709458You little faggot!!!!
>>12710853What the fuck...
Just imagine not be able to have fun playing Pokémon Stadium!
>>12701303Why do people pretend that 90's internet was this luxury that only rich people had? By 98 everybody I knew already had internet, and I'm a europoor from a poor family.>>12709163Until 15 years ago Europe used to be a lot whiter than the USA
>>12714790>Why do people pretend that 90's internet was this luxury that only rich people had?Because it was, for the most part, despite numerous exceptions (including universities, some european districts where the government deployed socialized internet infrastructure, and places with a strong internet cafe economy). Less than 50% of Americans used the internet in the year 2000, and those numbers were even lower in Europe -- Germany and the UK were both around 30%. So even if there were pockets of lower-class people getting online, the bulk of the internet population was either upper-middle class or higher, or the kind of smart and conscientious low-income kid able to get scholarships to study at a universityPlus, the actual 90s those numbers were even lower. In 1992 it was like 0.5% in the US. So 1998 would be significantly less than even the year 2000 numbers I quoted.
>>12714781Tried this with NSO. Pretty fun.
>>12709458PlayStation is KING you fucking midget!!!!
>>12714790How many bricklayers were surfing the web in the 90's?
