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The majority of the most hardcore arcade players agree that Third Strike is arcade perfection, but what makes it so good?
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alpha 2 mogs
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>>12712704
/thread
Better characters
Better graphics
Better gameplay
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>>12712704
>>12712708
Hardcore arcade players like The Electric Underground and Daigo all agree about Third Strike
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>>12712687
>The majority of the most hardcore arcade players agree that Third Strike is arcade perfection,
They definitely do not. You think the 3S crowd is the authority on this subject, but you ignore the silent majority of players who gave up the game after finding out what an unbalanced POS it was.
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>>12712709
>hardcore
You mean posers who watched a YouTube video and think they know shit
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>>12712713
>erm yikes why isn't every character perfectly balanced and the game as bland as possible
Because lil zoomer, back when games were games and had actual white people play them, we didn't care about your notions of platonic perfect balance, we just got good
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>>12712715
>the game is shit and I have nostalgia for it
Okay
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>>12712717
>game is shit because you're bad at it
Why do zoomers do this so often?
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>>12712708
>Better characters
half the roster are shotos
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>>12712715
Half the cast outright isn't viable in regular play, it's much worse than "not perfectly balanced"
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>>12712715
Based
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>>12712715
cope and seethe`
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>>12712704
>>12712708
>>12712714
>I use Custom Combo and win: the game
A "hardcore" fightan oldhead would logically hate Alpha 2 just as much as 3S.
The game has air blocking FFS.
>t.A2 player
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>>12712725
>>12712729
Again, learn, practice and yes, you'll even lose.
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>>12712713
>>12712717
Name one retro street fighter more balanced than 3rd Strike.
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>>12712725
Have you ever played super turbo?
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>>12712709
>Daigo
his favorite sf is alpha 3 btw
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>>12712738
Yes, it is far superior to 3S
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>>12712751
So you've never played either, got it
Post your tourney wins and replays
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>>12712738
Yes, it has much better balance than 3S.
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>>12712763
No one is going to dox themselves here for you, retard.
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>>12712770
Literally how?
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>>12712775
It has a greater variety of tournament winning characters.
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>>12712772
>no replays
Thanks again proving /vr/ doesn't play
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>>12712790
>retard doesn't understand why people won't dox themselves on 4chan on him
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>>12712785
...and?
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>>12712792
How are you going to dox someone over a fightcade account? Unless you post your own clips on the web you should be fine.
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>>12712785
>"Only Chun and Yun win tournaments" tier argument
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>>12712704
/bread
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>>12712687
fluid animation, controls well, parry is crack
>>12712704
Alpha 2 is boring as fuck
>>12712713
3S has the strongest competitive scene of any 90s FG in the modern day. it may not be everyone's cup of tea but it's clearly got more appeal than Super Turbo, say
>>12712725
this is false, the only truly non-viable characters are Twelve and Alex
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>>12712813
You mean Alex and Sean, Alex has plenty of tournaments.
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>>12712796
That's the answer to the question you asked.
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>>12712813
>3S has the strongest competitive scene of any 90s FG in the modern day.
That would be KOF 97.
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>>12712832
that's not even the KoF with the biggest scene
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>>12712724
still better than 3rd strike's literal who's
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>>12712831
People in ST win tournaments with low tier characters by basically abusing the one little cheap tactic they have and hope the opponent doesn't adapt in time.
If you're going to say "well If everyone is broken, no one is" then you may as well say that Jojoban, MAHvel and classic MK are all more balanced than ST at this point.
The worst match up in 3S is 2-8, in ST it's 1-9 (arguably 0-10).
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>ST is more balanced
I don't think A SINGLE genuine ST player has ever claimed that balance is one of ST's strengths, they will claim that every character having broken shit here and there makes the game FUN but never balanced.
Everyone knows about Cammy vs Old Sagat.
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>>12712687
I don't think it's even close to perfection, it's just after 3S was the era of the online fighter. Once you have to account for 100ms of lag you can no longer have 1-3 frame response times on everything, you start needing 4-6 to hide the "rollback" in. Fighting games went from reacting to your opponent to playing footsies until you got a hit confirm then launching your canned combos. Sure, plenty of local tournaments in 3S have been won by human powered macro play, but unlike later games it's not the ONLY way to play. And that's what's missing from modern games and why they suck for people who lived the thing from SF2:WW to 3S and beyond.
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>>12712848
>The worst match up in 3S is 2-8, in ST it's 1-9 (arguably 0-10).
Sorry I'm not in the club but what does this even mean?
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>>12712709
>>>>>>>>>the electric underground
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>>12712687
Refinement of Street Fighter 3 with all the cool gameplay features like.

- Parrying
- EX moves
- More modern throw inputs.
- Cool sprite work.
- Fuck you play jojos.
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>>12712763
Playing in tournaments doesn't make your point any more valuable, anon, nor does it make you any less retarded.
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>>12712805
You're so right, they forgot Ken, that's a whole THREE tournament winning characters!
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>>12713025
>fighting game thread
>people don't understand why actually playing the games matter
Not surprised, considering the state of the FGC these days
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>>12712848
>People in ST win tournaments with low tier characters by basically abusing the one little cheap tactic they have and hope the opponent doesn't adapt in time.
nonsense
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>>12712848
>The worst match up in 3S is 2-8, in ST it's 1-9 (arguably 0-10).
now do averaged match-ups
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>>12713048
>If you weren't in a no-name tournament with 6 people total and a prize pool of 2 Argentinian pesos you never actually played the game!
Use your head for once you faggot
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>>12712834
I'll never get what people see in 98, 2002 and 15 are really good though.
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>>12713056
>strawman
Why is it so hard for /vr/ to produce a single replay of them playing a fighting game?
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>>12713028
Dudley, Urien, Yang, Makoto, Ryu, Akuma, Oro and even Huga have won tournaments.
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>>12712984
It means the guy with the advantage is going to win 9 times out of 10, basically the only way to lose would be to throw your controller and not play.
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>>12713053
The average match up is still better on 3S' end.
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How are Chun and Yun more egregious broken than Old Sagat exactly?
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>>12713131
I do not believe you.
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>>12713132
O. Sagat isn't even the best character in ST. Claw is. These days Claw, Chun, and Boxer are all regarded higher than O. Sagat. John Choi switched off of O. Sagat and plays as Ryu now.
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>>12713143
Perhaps, but i feel like he still filters most of the lower end of the tier list far more than those.
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>>12713028
an akuma just won Jazzy Finale
you are retarded
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>>12712708
What makes Alpha 2 better than Alpha 3?
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>>12713256
The balancing became even more dogshit in 3 somehow, CC is even more cancerous as it now just kills your instead of doing 65-80% damage.
Also jump-in hit boxes are so bad many characters' best anti-air is just jab.
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>>12713159
Boxer is insanely oppressive and aggressive against n00bs.
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>>12713143
>>12713821
>trying this desperately hard
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>>12713860
You don't play ST.
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>>12713878
Post your replays
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>>12713882
see >>12712772
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>>12713916
LOL
So you don't play
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>>12713143
>>12713821
these dudes play ST
>>12713860
this dude does not play ST
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King of Fighters was much better
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>>12714341
for me to poop on
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>>12712687
>Third Strike is arcade perfection
It's unbalanced as fuck. Just pick Chun or Yun and easily dump on any other character. Some characters take way more work and talent than others. Plus the game has annoying niggermusic.
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>>12714531
Another negative opinion, get ready for every fag in the thread to tell you you haven't played the game.
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>>12714531
>Just pick Chun or Yun
literally the hallmark opinion of someone who doesn't actually play 3S
>>12714736
Plenty of people who play the game have negative opinions about it. what makes it clear that he hasn't played the game is the fact that his opinion is not an informed one. It's based on a half-baked outsider understanding of the game's balance.
yes Chun and Yun are strong. No, they are not auto-win buttons.
especially Yun, anyone who thinks he's a ticket to easy wins doesn't know the game. If you don't invest time into execution and mastering and optimizing GJ combos and enders, you're playing a neutered version of the character that people who don't play 3S expect Yun to be.
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>>12712687
In short: everything

Capcom was on some crack when they made this game, every little nuance and detail is perfect. Its near the pinnacle of 2d art in videogames. Even the hitsparks are the greatest hitsparks ever made for a game. The sound effects, just the sound of a parry is one of the greatest sounds in videogame history.

All the normals feel fine tuned to perfection, the dash frames, how much distance dashes cover, the jump arc and it's gravity, everything feels tuned towards the player having literally as much accuracy and feel of control than any other fighting game ever made. It creates these nuanced matches that feel almost rhythmic and communicative to other players. Like when you do something sick in Third Strike to other people who understand the game and its engine, its like its own form of communication. Its like doing something super advanced in table tennis, only people who play table tennis and its "feel" are going to understand.

Its one of those few games thats transcendent above its genre. You dont even need to know a lick about fighting games to see plainly its the most high quality and professionally done, even third strike matches are more exciting and tense to watch than any other fighting game. Its like watching a 90s anime action scene in gameplay form
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>>12715998
Fucking lmao, this is like a parody of Third Strikefags
You don't even play
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>>12712927
Pretty much this too. I never got to experience third strike in local settings but at least GGPO got it pretty close in the days where SF4 netcode was so bad it wasnt even worth playing and nobody in the SF4 community took Online ranked play seriously it was basically a side attraction.

You can tell old games were tuned towards instantly reacting to opponents movements with swift defense. Nearly every normal comes out so fast that SF6 players are not used to it. You cant just frame bully people in 3s without much harder to execute tech, meanwhile SF6 designs every character around setups and frame bullying.
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>>12716010
I sold my TE in 2019 otherwise I would body you right now.
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>>12716014
Post replays, post tourney wins
You don't play
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>>12716020
I played back when "fightcade" was just called GGPO and it was a project by some dude from the SRK forums in like fuckin 2010. Don't tell me you're one of these 20 year old tourney trannies that plays on hitbox and takes third strike super seriously because there are no good fighting games anymore.
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There's a very fundamental fallacy in Third Strike Fag's demand for replays.
Basically, he's saying that in order to criticism 3rd Strike, you need to be good at the game.
But...
1. Why would being skilled at the game indicate the game is good?
2. Why would a person who thinks the game sucks get skilled at it in the first place?

These requirements self-select for a person who will have favorable opinions on the game. Any criticism is hand-waved away as "you don't play the game". I don't *have* to play a game to master level to say that game sucks. That's *why* I don't play it!
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>>12716027
>no replays
>no tourney wins
>no fightcade proofs
>"i was good but i uh sold my stick totally"
YOU
DON'T
PLAY
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>>12716029
I'm not even asking them to be good, I'm asking them to just play
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>>12716030
Post yours? Are you like actually good for real? I want to see.

I mean I can genuinely play the game, I have probably like 300 max hours under my belt. And back then there was no training mode to practice combos or tech. Why the fuck do I have to be some expert to have a positive opinion on a game? Fuck you, unpleasant pissant.

No shit you're cynical as fuck you probably have put like 1000+ hours into this game and probably have done tons of training mode and know the nuance of every little frame and overstudied the fuck out of the game. Back then the Japanese players knew all that stuff and there was tons of mystique about Kuroda and the top players but I bet Kuroda would get bodied by your modern zoomer Third Strike player.
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>>12716035
Still waiting on your replays
You don't play
You don't even have a peripheral to play
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>>12716038
and im waiting for yours since you seem to know so much about third strike. Can you do Urien aegis setups and combos? Can you do makoto touch of death on akuma? Can you Akuma vortex? Can you setup Ryus Denjin?
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>>12716031
They HAVE played, you utter moron. They played the game to their level of taste to make a judgement about it.
I fucking hate 3rd Strike and I've got probably 300 hours or more in it, and even placed high in a couple regional tournaments for it.

Now is the part where you respond with your braindead demands for "muh replays" and "dox urself for me pls k thx" like a broken record.
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>>12716045
Yes, I can, because I actually play, unlike everyone else in this thread, including you
The game isn't as great as you claim
>>12716046
>uh chud they DO play, they just have no replays, or tourney wins, or videos, or proof, or even a stick
>but they totally play
Next you'll tell me that you can be a fan without having to actually play
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>>12716038
post yours first nigger, the burden of proof is upon you. dox yourself for our entertainment!
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uh
sex
with Ibuki
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>>12716047
post your fightcade id, youtube channel, etc. otherwise you're just a LARPing poser. You don't play, etc, etc, etc.
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>>12716053
>"fans" of third strike are in the thread proclaiming it's perfect
>ask for the simplest qualification of their opinion
>they can't do it
Tale as old as time
Telling how no one actually plays the game
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>>12716056
Meant for >>12715998
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>>12716046
Hes just being a troll and a larper anon. I recognize third strike has a ton of flaws in 2026, I didn't even really know about the flaws when I played the game back then. I knew Yun and Chun were OP but nobody I played against ever picked Yun or Chun. I used to think Dudley and Hugo and Makoto were the most broken characters because I used to play these guys that used to play in the arcade scene in LA and they were so good I couldn't get one round off them. Since I am from Utah we had good pings. I think they were from an Arcade called Family Fun Arcade? I was like 16 at the time and they were like 32.

I mostly used Third Strike as a side game to learn the fundamentals of Street Fighter inbetween playing SF4 though. Also Third Strike always felt like i could "breathe" and have fun as a noob more against good players, meanwhile SF4 was a very strict game with very strict button timings and movement.

A lot of people really complain about the parry meta especially air-parrying anti-airs but i really dont care about all that stuff. There never has been a more satisfying feeling that air parrying peoples antiairs on jump in.
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>it's larping to ask if you actually play and show proof
>it's NOT larping to pretend you play and just jerk off a game you've seen a single videoclip of
/vr/ truly is the best board
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>>12716065
>>12716059
what the fuck are you doing?
>>12716067
He's now trying to pretend to be other posters replying to my post "correcting" it.

Teenage 3S dickrider on tilt most likely.
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WHERE ARE THE LOBBIES
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>>12716068
You want me to download fightcade right now? I have a pad, its not a stick but I still can play pad since that was my first way I learned. I also got to Diamond in vanilla SF6 with pad so I dont think its that bad.

Where are you from? Are you from US cause I will download fightcade right now. I dont even care if you body me, I have no proof of my skill except playing you.
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>>12716078
Download it and post the lobby, you won't, because you don't play
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>>12716081
downloading on linux right now
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And there you have it, Third Strikefags literally do not play
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Third Strike isn't even the best version of SFIII...
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>>12716136
link the rom and ill challenge you. this json downloader shit doesnt work on flatpaks
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nevermind finally got it working, let me plug in my controller. Mistrneb is my username
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>i totally play third strike bro
>i just had to install and download everything
It should already be set up
You do not play
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Come on. Challenge me
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>>12716170
Why would someone "force" you to download something, when you claimed you regularly play the game?
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>>12712687
I like it, but I don't get why some people go crazy for it. It wasn't even that popular in it's day.
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>>12712704
I really like alpha 3 for it's fun large roster. How and why is 2 better? Sorry if this sounds dumb. I'm pretty casual when it comes to fighters.
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>>12712687
this game is an absolute poser supernova
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>>12716172
incoherent idiot
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>>12716172
>when you claimed you regularly play the game?
He said he played it years ago, not currently, dumbass.
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>>12712687
Ryu's gross little nog student always cracks me up. What were they thinking?
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Remember this moment 3Sissies, when you got completely and utterly exposed
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>>12712724
I swear people weren't calling characters "shotos" just a few years ago. I know jap and find it cringe. Off topic, but it reminds me of that faggot toby fox's "translated english". Poor japs hate being called esl as it is and this guy is making it his personality.

T.n2 and have lived there on and off
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>>12716209
They were, you don't play so it's all new to you, like when you faggots complain about being saying "plus", you didn't play, so you didn't know
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>>12716213
Nta, but I remember people calling them ryu clones
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>>12716172
retard
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>>12716170
so, has the dude showed up already?
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>>12716215
>i remember everyone else being ignorant so that means it's fine
No you retard, it means you and everyone else you knew didn't play
Same thing as when Tekken "fans" look at you blankly if you mention a 122 string
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>>12716172
>>12716202
You got exposed so hard lmao. I was waiting for your challenge.

Instead I played these two insanely good players, holy shit it makes me feel so fucking old how good your "average" modern 3s player is now. Back in the day they would have been considered really really good for non-japanese. I literally just played a Q who knew all the tech.

Theres been this recent wave since I think since the SF5 era where the younger generation really picks apart the frame data and the games coding and makes WAY better guides and tutorials for literally every popular fighting game now. I think thats a good thing but it also makes the game way more daunting to play, since back when I was young most players were really shit or just learning street fighter for the first time, so if you knew how to even parry people thought you were good.
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>>12716224
>you claim you play
>had to wait for you to download and install something you claim you play consistently
You got exposed before you even knew it
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>>12716221
I meant at cons and events, but sure I guess
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>third strike "fan" posts an e-celeb
You can't make this shit up
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>>12716225
just gracefully take the L, bro
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>>12716224
Some say the "skill ceiling" was raised. I personally believe that the super analysis ruin part of the fun.
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>>12716225
Which part of >>12716027 did you not fucking read retard?

>>12716220
Hes right here >>12716227, not accepting my challenge. Hes a total bitch lol. I would have totally accepted the L if you actually turned out to be a real SF player.

You don't even play fighting games dude. Kill yourself
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>>12716230
Meant for >>12716224
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>>12716234
>>12716227
>>12716225
Someone needs to really do something about these ChatGPT bots. Its getting super out of hand. Its so obvious he's a botter but boomers are still falling for it.
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>>12716231
"skill ceiling" is more of a concept that exists within the actual games code from Day 1. Or at least thats how people used to use it. People usually say Third Strike has among the heighest skill ceilings next to Virtua Fighter just because of all the variables. I personally think Super Turbo and Smash Melee is a harder game to learn though, because so much of its meta is completely unintuitive and based around broken code and you would never know 99% of its tech without someone telling you the secret glitch behind it or reading tons of guides and watching tons of youtube tutorials and by that point you must have autism if you really care about a 30 year old game that much.

I would say players being that much better probably just makes for a way more masochistic experience if you're a straight up noob and can't even comprehend what is being done to you, there is less mechanics at play that make noobs feel like they have a chance like modern fighting games. But Third Strike is just absolutely fucking brutal if you are playing by pure muscle memory and what is "expected" of you at a mid-level to do. Because Third Strike is literally about shutting down buttons, at least more than any other fighter ive ever played. You feel like you absolutely can't do anything and you're a total idiot if you're playing a really good third strike player, even if you're like "decent" at fighting games. (basic footsies, anti-airs, blocking, spacing etc)
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Oh yeah not to mention keyboards and hitboxes have totally ruined a certain aspect of fighting games where I literally wont know if some asshole is cheating and has forward movement while holding block at the same time. Apparently there are "SOCD cleaners" that prevent that from happening, but you can just go into your device and find ways to take that shit out and you have an obvious massive advantage over stick and pad users. Its totally ruined the scene IMO.
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>>12716256
That's rough. I still play casually every now and then on stick. Are those hitboxes really that exploitable?
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>>12716209
>I swear people weren't calling characters "shotos" just a few years ago.
This has been common video game parlance since the 90s.
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>>12716261
Even if they weren't (im sure they are but the nu-FGC defends them like nothing is wrong) You still have a massive executional advantage once you master leverless. You literally just type in inputs like you're fucking spock on the enterprise to do special moves and combos. Instantaneous directional input will always have an advantage over the small amount of time it takes the stick to hit those same directions.
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>>12716272
I started fighting games in 09 cause I am filthy 09'er and I can confirm "Shoto" has been around since 2009

"Shoto" is literally just a character archetype now, regardless of game. Its like calling Guile a "Charge" character. It just means you have quarter circle/half circle fireballs and a SRK.
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>>12716251
>You feel like you absolutely can't do anything and you're a total idiot if you're playing a really good third strike player, even if you're like "decent" at fighting games. (basic footsies, anti-airs, blocking, spacing etc)
That's because the game is trash.
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>>12716184
alpha 2 is even more broken than 3. With multiple customcombo combos, custom combos into super in custom combo and all that filth.
And thanks to that is the most balanced alpha game there is.
So much that they did a special rebalanced game for the Saturn with custom combos requiring more meter than supers and it was more unbalanced because the tier list was pretty much the same but now Zangief and Dan couldn't compete at all with the top tiers.
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>>12716649
>custom combos into super in custom combo and all that filth.
That doesn't exist in Alpha 2, you're thinking of CvS2.
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>He sperged out about people playing because nobody was buying the "it's unbalanced" critique anymore
Btw, if you genuinely think Yun and Chun are game ruiningly broken than you haven't played more than 2 retro fightans.
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>>12716280
Or Maybe you're just too predictable.
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>>12712687
everyone I know who has dedicated thousands of hours (me) and/or is godly at fighting games agree 3s is held back severely by the top2.
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>>12716727
In CvS2 you end custom combo mode with the super.
I was overselling that you could start the custom combos after a super https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ig-E8sBK18 (2nd combo and others) seeing how in A2 they deplete the rest of the bar left, it was EX2 where you could mix your custom combos with supers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00p7JSgFl0Y
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>>12716209
people have been saying "shoto" since at least the 00s bro
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>>12716224
nah the primary 3S wiki was hot ass for a very long time until just the last couple years when some discord autists started revamping it
people who learned to play 3S at high level during all that time were mostly doing so at locals or in online cliques, learning from others and by word of mouth. every serious player goes to Japan now and then to grind games
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>>12716280
filtered
the front gate of 3S is feeling like you can't do anything because your opponent parries all your obvious pokes and counterpokes that you auto-pilot from your muscle memory in other games.
once you keep the threat of parry in mind and start mixing up your timings and options to beat it you are beginning to actually play the game.
parrying locks out the ability to throw tech so if someone is parrying every walk-up poke you do just walk up throw them until they switch up.
I don't know why i'm explaining this. it's fighting games 101 level shit, if anyone reading this actually plays fighting games they already knew all this a long time ago. anyone who doesn't play fighting games doesn't care.
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>>12712687
Basically, despite what some people said in this thread, the game is actually very well balanced. If Capcom made a balance patch, they would only need to change a few specific things, like giving Chun one super bar instead of two, increasing Yun's meter requirements, and another small change would be reducing meter gain from whiffing. Those three little changes alone would make the game much more even, because yes, Chun and Yun really do dominate at the highest level, there is no way around that.

But outside of that, 99% of players are never going to be in a situation where they are getting abused by Chun and Yun. On the contrary, a mediocre Yun is going to get destroyed by a mediocre 12. Chun is more beginner-friendly, and at the same skill level she will have more dominance, but the people who are actually affected by the top-tier matchup issue are that 1%, and those players either know exactly what to do or they are playing Chun or Yun themselves.

Putting balance aside, what makes the game addictive is that there are layers upon layers of decisions that the player has to be aware of every single second. On top of that, there is also an element of randomness where even the theoretically best possible decision cannot beat everything. (This is why Daigo is always crying, because his surefire setups don't work 100% of the time in 3s) Basically, the game keeps on giving. The more you learn about it, the more there is left to learn.

And on top of all that, there are parries. Parry is a mechanic that, once a player masters it, makes it impossible to play other fighting games without instinctively trying to parry things. At some point, the player starts to feel the attack coming instead of just blindly holding back to block.

And when a game no longer gives you that possibility, it feels like you are being robbed of an ability you developed, like the game is artificially limiting your skill expression and forcing everyone into the same playing field.
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>>12716953
>Chun and Yun really do dominate at the highest level, there is no way around that.
Jazzy Finale was won by an Akuma this year.
The top 8 of 3SO last fall had 1 Yun and 1 Chun who made 5th and 7th place respectively. The grand final was Makoto vs. Hugo.
Chun and Yun are top tier at high level but by no means do they dominate.
One day you larpers will realize that overselling how strong Chun and Yun are gives away the fact that you don't really know or play the game
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I like it because it's got based Dudley in it. No flashy stuff, just punching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5XlLsk-ayQ
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>>12717078
>4rd strike
built tough.
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>>12716224
context on this gif? why isn't he green?
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>>12717060
Three entries among a sample size of over a hundred notable tournaments in history is not going to budge the statistical data very much.
Additional to that, I have my doubts about the 3S community these days and their goals. It seems to be more important to gain style points by playing a lower tier even if you win than it is to just learn Chun-li and have a much better chance at outright winning. So this acts as as a not-quite-ban, but a communal frowning upon (there are historic precedents like O. Sagat in St in Japan), and this effect will be magnified at 3S specific events like the ones you listed, as compared to the winners of tournaments like Evo or Combo Breaker.
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>>12713143
>These days Claw, Chun, and Boxer are all regarded higher than O. Sagat. John Choi switched off of O. Sagat and plays as Ryu now.
I play ST as my main game, and there is definitely a communal frowning upon of playing O. Sagat these days, and N. Claw is getting that reputation as well after Hokuto and Mao have made so many tournament outcomes rather boring. I highly suspect this is the reason why John Choi switched to N. Ryu, and not because he thinks Ryu is better than O. Sagat.
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>>12717337
It's because of clips of the current Japanese playerbase who goes by team format.
People fucking LOVE Aihara, Pachikasu and TM playing their low tier mains.
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>>12717337
>t-they're just not picking chun and yun on purpose!
you're retarded and you don't know anything about 3S.
fuck off back to jrpgs or whatever you play, tourist.
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>>12717337
modern 3S players play other characters because Chun is boring, Yun is a lot of work, and for as good as you have to get at the game to compete at top level anyway, you can pretty well make any character work, so you might as well play whoever seems fun and cool to you.
Nobody cares about "style points".
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capcom had the revelation that inputs shouldn't be a pain in the ass to do and doing the rough motion was enough of a hurdle in the speed of an active match.
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>>12717552
post replays, fightcade id, and drivers license or you're full of shit
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>>12717320
lmao I have no idea I just have this gif. Also his camera was not always green, one day it just started being green because a chip died in it or something.
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>>12717752
You were expected to treat sanwa and hori parts roughly to get your inputs out. They were designed to take a fucking insane beating. American cabs literally kept getting ruined back in the day because people would crank that fucking shitty joystick as hard and fast as possible to get special moves to come out. Nothing was ever as broken as the MvC2 cab unless you were in a good arcade that used japanese parts.
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>>12712725
That’s all true.

And it’s still the greatest 1v1 fighting game in history. Also arguably even better than the greatest tag fighting games as well.
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>>12712704
Alpha 2 is great…for tards who refuse to want to adapt to anything more complex than the best of the SF2 series, like ST & Hyper Fighting. I see Alpha 2 as the perfect visual and gameplay evolution of the SF2 series.

But IMHO Alpha 3 Mogs alpha 2. Same beautiful artstyle, but with a much harder OST. Much bigger roster. And the ISM’s … especially RAC-ISM, make the game way better, so long as you don’t mind more complex gameplay variations and thus, calculations.

And finally, SF3: 3rd Strike mogs all the alpha games, graphics wise, and adds some truly perfect gameplay evolution as well. Its drawback ? Very small roster, with some unusual faces.

If CAPCOM ever did the decent thing, and issued a 4th installment of SF3, using all stages and all theme songs, as well as almost all the most popular, and timeline apropos alpha series sprites, as well as a playable poison, they would have the greatest fighting game of all time all over again.
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>>12716215
>Nta, but I remember people calling them ryu clones
They absolutely did, in magazines in the 90s. The 'hardcore community' were calling them shotos in the 2000s.
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>>12712709
Daigo has always thought 3S is mickey, what are you talking about?
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>>12718408
>especially RAC-ISM
There's racism in the game? Maybe I judged the game wrong
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>>12712687
freedom of expression, skill/technical ceiling and character metas that seemingly have no limit (though definitely diminishing returns over the years), looks and sounds great, and unlike almost all modern games it's f u n. unfortunately it's not always intuitive and like old arena shooters or RTS games the better player will always unambiguously gap the lesser player which practically makes it unplayable to 99.9% of 06ers and on.
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>>12717337
This anon's right you know
If 3S had a yearly invitational for $1,000,000 with thousands of players competing throughout the season, you'd see only Yun and Chun

The only reason you dont is because people play this game nowadays strictly for fun. They're not pros the same way modern fighters have pros.
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>>12718532
No, the rest of the top tiers are also insanely strong to not use, specially when tournaments have adapted the team format.
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>>12718532
this is false. the modern scene aren't traveling en masse twice a year to Colorado and Texas (some even coming from Japan) for the modern 3S majors strictly for fun. they're trying to be the best and stand on top.
Fact is that if you still think of 3S as the Chun and Yun show in 2026 you simply don't know the game.
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>>12718953
Biggest 3S tournament of all time was won by Chun and it wasn't that long ago.
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>>12718532
you would see Chun, Yun, Ken, Makoto, Yang, and Dudley at minimum. All of the other 4 have proven strengths that allow them to fight top 2.
You would probably also see SA3 Ryu and Urien because they have dirt.
The thing about know-nothings like you who spout off about this game with unearned confidence is you don't even know what makes Chun and Yun strong without looking it up. You heard some shit years ago and took it as immutable fact and you're still repeating it in big 2026 where the most recent 3S majors were won by an Akuma (over the best Chun player in North America) and a Makoto (in a bracket where no Chuns or Yuns even made top 4)
This isn't because the players in question are "just playing for fun". All of these competitors grind the game for hours nightly to get better. Grinding FGs for competitive relevance is one of the most anti-fun ways to engage with video games. They're trying to win.
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>>12718969
The Evo throwback only had a large number of entrants because it was at Evo so tons of random shitters who were there to drown in pools for other games said "ooh 3rd Strike at Evo!" and signed up.
Most of the relevant names in modern 3rd Strike weren't even there. The bracket is full of literal whos who have never so much as entered an online weekly for 3S. It was a novelty.
The largest 3S tournament in history that consisted solely of dedicated 3S players was 3rd Strike Open last year and it was won by a Makoto, over a Hugo, with one Chun and one Yun taking 7th and 5th place respectively.
Jazzy Circuit runs an entire competitive season from January to July and this year the champion was an Akuma player.
Anyone who thinks Chun and Yun are free win buttons are simply wrong. We have the results to prove it.
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