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This game is fucking ass. I'm so tired of seeing people defending and hailing it as some masterpiece just because From Software made an actual good action RPG like the Souls series. Straight up hot garbage. Stop pretending to think this is actually good when it's not. Done rant.
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>>12713419
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>>12713419
That's a lot of typing and captcha solving just to declare you got mega filtered buddy
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>>12713424
>"Game sucks"
>"Y-You got filtered buddy I swear!"
Cope response!
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>AIIEEEEEE I CAN'T ROLLSLOP MY PROBLEMS AWAY
Soulscucks the moment they have to face an actual challenging game
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>>12713419
If it was a DOS game made in Europe they wouldn't give a flying fuck about it I can promise you that
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>>12713427
This isn't even about rolling. Arx Fatalis absolutely mogs this retarded overrated game.
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>>12713428
of course because it would've been shit
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>>12713435
It is shit my delulu friend
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>>12713425
And I'd have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for your devastating moe reaction image folder.
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>>12713454
yes, your comparison is shit
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>>12713419
No one calls King's Field 1 a masterpiece. You can't even start off with a genuine point.
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>>12713462
Masterpiece, "good". Anything positive about this game is completely wrong. My point still stands.
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>>12713419
King's Field is a good game, and it makes me think "damn this could have been a good game" like if it wasn't an old game but was made a decade later. And you know they kinda did that.
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>>12713464
And most fans of the series even say you can skip the first.
No one is putting at the top or praising it much, it's like an idea not realized by a brand new studio.
It's the ones that follow up that people praise.
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>>12713471
>It's the ones that follow up that people praise.
Like what? I'm sure they're overpraised still because "From Software" fame
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>>12713480
Man, you are insufferable, just look up fans of the series from before the souls series was a thing.
They're out there and they were popular enough and sold well enough to warrant 4 titles.
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king's field II (first in the west) is the one that gets praised. the actual first king's field was more or less a souped up 3d demo.
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>>12713482
should be "can produce ass-cracking butthurt"
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>>12713490
>king's field II (first in the west)
Oh I thought the thread was about that one
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>>12713487
Good boy. It took them until a decade later on the PS2 to make something remotely good, and even then it was still niche and most people didn't give a fuck about it. Like I said before, Only people who enjoyed the Souls series are only giving it a chance. Without them making Souls, you wouldn't even give a shit in the first place.
>>12713482
The only fragile ego is that you went out of your way to make a witty meme response because I hurt your feelings. Because the truth hurts.
>>12713490
That was shit too. Are you kidding me?
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>>12713496
king's field II has great dungeon design. if you don't like dungeon crawler games, then fuck off. dork souls and demon souls are basically the same thing but with 3rd person hack n slash combat
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>>12713498
>king's field II has great dungeon design. if you don't like dungeon crawler games, then fuck off.
Shut the fuck up. Wizardry series are my favorite dungeon crawlers
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>>12713501
if you are a real wizardry fan, then you would like king's field just fine. bet you never even played wiz empires you fuckin poser, you make me sick
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>>12713432
Arx Faggotis is pure liquid diarhea
you most likely played KF2 (called KF1 in the west) the worst game in the series and wrote off the rest of the games as being the same shit
play a good KF3 or 4 if you want real kino
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>>12713504
>if you are a real wizardry fan, then you would like king's field just fine.
No, don't manipulate me like that. Wizardry is old as fuck and It captures the essence of dungeon delving so much better.
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idk i played all the king's field games before i played the souls games and i liked them a lot
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>>12713506
king's field is an alternative to wizardry style just like the original SMTs were. I don't even like real time combat that much and king's field's combat is tolerable.
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>>12713505
>play a good KF3 or 4 if you want real kino
That's fair. I grew up on King's Field. I got the Localized King's Field in the 90's in a bargain bin for like 10 dollars or something. Complete ass. Tried replaying it, still ass. Played the fan translated one that was Japan exclusive, and that one was pure ass as well. I won't comment on the third or fourth one because I have not played it. I'd imagine it vastly improved.
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>>12713509
>king's field's combat is tolerable.
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>>12713490
>king's field II (first in the west) is the one that gets praised
KF2 is a poser-core slop
since redditors can't into piracy or patching ISO's they're skipped 1 and only tried (watched a playthrough) of 2 and call it a day
3 and 4 are the real good stand out KF games, although 4 gets it's share of posers mainly because of the OST just like with Armored Core posers listening to the music and calling themselves ''fans''
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>>12713498
>king's field II has great dungeon design
It has my respect for some ideas executed well in other games. Firelink shortcut and secret items being the most well-known examples.
Otherwise KF2 level design feels like placeholder maps requiring another pass. Which can add to the vibes but YMMV
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>>12713496
I just showed you a bunch of reviews that predates that shit you were saying and you just didn't even acknowledge that.
You just moved the goal posts.
Most people of course did not even know about the series to begin with, it was a small indie studio with almost zero budget for marketing.
Of course people didn't know about it.
Then you moved the goal posts again about it being niche, which was not your argument to begin with.
You are proven wrong and you just keep slithering like a snake.
Piece of shit.
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>>12713525
>I just showed you a bunch of reviews that predates that shit you were saying and you just didn't even acknowledge that.
>You just moved the goal posts.
I don't give a shit. Because those reviews were for the PS2 version. I'm primarily talking about the first 2 games in the series. I know nothing about the 4th game.
>You just moved the goal posts.
You did originally because you had to bring up the PS2 version. Instead of talking about the originals on the PS1.
>Most people of course did not even know about the series to begin with, it was a small indie studio with almost zero budget for marketing.
Of course people didn't know about it.
We agree on something, that's fine.
>Then you moved the goal posts again about it being niche, which was not your argument to begin with.
No. I was adding in more detail. That's not moving the goalpost you dork. You're the one bringing up the 4th game, that's more goal posting moving than me. My original point was that the King's Field games on the PS1 just sucks, you brought up the fourth game (for whatever reason)
>You are proven wrong and you just keep slithering like a snake.
Proven wrong what? You're turning this personally. Obviously if you feel this way you're just some weird brand loyalists to From Software so your ass gotta protect all their games or else your hardcore identity is gone, I get it.
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King's Field 4 is one of the slowest games ever made. There's no way in hell 99% of the people who praise it have played it to completion, not because it's hard, but because it's hard to stay awake playing it.
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I played them a while back. They were fine, I would have liked them in the '90s if I'd ever seen a copy. I liked PSX Armored Core, why wouldn't I
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You could just go back to /v/ you know.
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>>12713419
For a 3D ARPG made in fucking 1994 its pretty good.
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I played them all to completion. I like them. Ultima underworld is better in some regards. But king's field really found itself and improved as the series continued.
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The world is interesting but the game(s) are total shite
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Undiscussable series because zoomerfaggots ruin everything. I always found the series unique and cool, it was the one first-person game on ps1 that wasn't about shooting
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>>12714006
So just like metroid
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>>12714056
Yeah the prime games are putrid garbage in dire need of "demakes" (which would actually be a massive improvement)
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>>12714072
metroid was always garbage, you only wank over super because muh 2d zoomer hipsterism
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>>12713419
I mean no shit it's ass. The second a dev team makes a game people actually like retards quickly go into their history to larp something as le true fans.
I had more fun with games a decade older than this piece of shit
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>>12713419
if it's so bad then why todd howard himself ripped this off in 2006 with oblivion? which later became massive hit that spawned best selling game of all time, skyrim?
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>>12714042
>Undiscussable series because zoomerfaggots ruin everything.
As a Millennial you need to stop blaming zoomers. OP is right, the game is fucking ass.
>>12714760
Bait used to be believable.
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>>12713419
I'm sorry for your bad taste, anon.
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>>12713428
And if Super mario was a pc98 doujin game nobody would give a fuck.
Go back namefaggot
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>>12713505
No you can't rip on Arx just because you're a From fanboy
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>>12714863
Dark Messiah >>>> Arx Fatalislop
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>>12713682
I played KF4 to completion earlier this year, it's a masterpiece. One of the best exploration games I've played. The turning speed is very slow and my biggest issue with the game, but the positive outweighs the negative.
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>>12713512
back to X
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>>12714823
You might be surprised to know that Super Mario Bros did come out on the PC-88
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>>12714094
Nah it's kino shut up. What's trash is the FPS.. trash.
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>>12714809
it look todd howard 12 years to do something from software done in 1994. the fucking daggerfall came out in 1996 and IT WAS STILL 2D GAME, like holy fuck. then even morrowind later still didn't have this tight combat and still relied on outdated roll dice mechanics. King's field was this much ahead of its time where IT TOOK HIM 12 YEARS to copy
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>>12713427
>>AIIEEEEEE I CAN'T ROLLSLOP MY PROBLEMS AWAY
Yeah in King's Field it's backsteppingslop that solves all the problems.
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>>12713419
Nobody gave a single fuck about King's Field until From Soft got popular with Dark Souls. Hipsters went back to look at their old shitty games and pretend to like them so they could declare themselves ''true From fans''.
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>>12713419
well too fucking bad because i'm gonna keep saying i like it and you can't stop me.
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>>12715262
That would make more sense if armored core didn't exist
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>>12714809
>t. soulsxfan69 20 yo shitter
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Easiest way to spot zoomers and poser shitters: they get filtered by real dungeon crawlers
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this game is a slow, jank, ugly piece of shit and i love it, great atmosphere. loved all 4.

and shadow tower is great, the second one not so much
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>>12714916
Yeah I'm being super filtered by ST right now because of the FPS. I'm usually not bothered much but it drops to a CRAWLLLLLLlllllll
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>>12713419
Your problem is you think, when a person says a game is good, that means it will be the best piece of media you ever experienced and change your shitty life. Nothing will.
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>>12713427
>AIIEEEEEE I CAN'T ROLLSLOP MY PROBLEMS AWAY
Circle strafing in KF is even more overpowered
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>>12713419
There's a certain category of art and entertainment that isn't out and out bad, but it's in no way great. That leaves unique, and something being unique and not bad is enough to garner an audience that can appreciate said uniqueness. If it was great, it would have a much wider audience than it does. That simple.
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>>12715448
Shadow Tower Abyss is carried pretty hard by the aesthetics. It's a worse game in most ways, but the environments are cool-looking enough for it to be memorable.

>>12713520
The actual map design is great, but it is a shame that so many areas look more or less identical.

>>12713837
Yeah, I think the series improved overall with each entry. I'm not particularly fond of KF1, but I really enjoyed all the others. It's a shame the FPS didn't improve with each entry, though.

>>12713512
It's fine. It's simple but still has some tension, and doesn't distract from the exploration, which is the actual point of the series. I don't think it's notably worse than Souls-style combat, though that's admittedly more condemnation of the Souls games than it is praise for King's Field.
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>>12713419
Kings Field 2 (jp)/Kings Field 1 (us) is the actually good one OP. You got memed into starting everything from release order.

KF3 is also not very good in my opinion, too much flat open areas and badly drawn out dungeons.

KF4/KF:Ancient City is the best in the series, and an absolute masterpiece on all fronts, and I will defend it with my life till the very end on this website. Its one of the most adventurous if not THE most adventurous JRPG ever made. I've never played a more immersive experience even compared to Miyazaki's games.
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>>12715721
>Shadow Tower Abyss is carried pretty hard by the aesthetics. It's a worse game in most ways.

Really? I think the absolute opposite. Shadow Tower 1 is an awful, obnoxious and crushingly slow paced borefest thats carried by its awesome as fuck enemy design. Everything else about it sucks nuts. Shadow Tower Abyss has much better gameplay and cooler environments.

Imagine if Miyazaki brought the shadow tower IP back. I would cum bucketloads.
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From should port KF and ST to their current rollslop engine, they'd make FISTFUL OF DOLLARS
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>>12715136
>it look todd howard 12 years to do something from software done in 1994. the fucking daggerfall came out in 1996 and IT WAS STILL 2D GAME,
Yes. Keep ignoring that Arena existed
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>>12715429
Souls fans are the ones who are jerking off this game>>12715262
This. So much this. I even remember some people were predicting that people were going to hail the first Armored Core game as some epic masterpiece right after Fires of Rubicon released.
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>>12716524
Actually yeah its extremely soulful. The AI is retarded but hits like a ton of bricks especially early level. KF isnt really about the combat though, its about exploration and finding secrets and unraveling the labyrinth until it all makes sense.

>>12717145
I heard about Kings Field when I was young but it was so extremely difficult to find a copy and plus I think I sucked too much at games to fully enjoy KF back then. Playing Dark Souls really helped me appreciate the slow paced, mysterious dungeon adventure. Figuring out where to go, your hand never being held once. The feeling of accomplishment when you finally start getting better gear and understanding the layout of the world.
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>>12713419
>Those baphomet-like drawings on the cover art
Never noticed it before, is that actually related to the game?
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>>12717148
>I heard about Kings Field when I was young but it was so extremely difficult to find a copy
They were in every bargain bin in every Electronics Boutique back then.
>>12717151
Japan only cover for the first one.
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>>12717161
>Japan only cover for the first one.
Yeah I know, never played it.
Very creepy cover art
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>>12717145
>How dare a new entry in the series drives interest in the older games!
Even if you think that's stupid, that doesn't make AC1 not great.
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>>12717145
You are obhiously a larping zoomer retard, King's Field had a very distinct vibe back then compared to any other ps1 first person game and the map was impressive.
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>>12716524
Better than super shitroid that's for sure
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>>12716524
It's like Japanese Morrowind, a piece of shit but people pretend to like it because muh atmosphere.
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>>12713419
I believe most people (normies) actually praise King’s Field 3 or whatever is the PS2 release… Tower of whatever. Only this board digs the first game
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>>12717293
>How dare a new entry in the series drives interest in the older games!
That wasn't even the main argument. It's just that From Software dorks like to revise history to show that they're the true OG before it became mainstream.
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>>12717319
No one gave a flying fuck about King's Field because it sucked. It was always in the bargain bin for 10 dollars at your local Electronics Boutique store in the 90's. Me and my brother played it back then and we both agreed that it sucked. Pic VERY much related retard.
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>>12717321
Based nintendo rent free haver
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>>12717428
>With receipts
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>>12717321
I don't like Super Metroid and I know for a fact that game is 10x more enjoyable than this fucking turd.
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>>12713419
It's shit and was recognized as such until Dark Souls fanboys started considering everything made by From as Holy and something that's ideal and couldn't be wrong at any point.
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>>12717428
>enemies with the IQ of octopuses
>Five minutes to kill a monster by circling around the monster at a snail's pace
LMAO! that's fucking hilarious because that's true.
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>>12717458
Sounds just like Dork Soles 2.
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>>12717428
kek
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>>12717428
>As for the role play aspect, it is non-existent. Where a Morrowind will drown us under a biblical pavement of 1500 pages, the dialogues of King's Field are limited to one page of text in all and for everything in the whole game, with not very talkative NPCs which we find prostrate in a corner and merchants who get straight to the point.

Gee, I wonder what game series that reminds me of..
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>>12717148
>Playing Dark Souls really helped me appreciate the slow paced, mysterious dungeon adventure. Figuring out where to go, your hand never being held once. The feeling of accomplishment when you finally start getting better gear and understanding the layout of the world.
Isn't this like any other experience when playing video games?



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