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You ordered yours, right anon?
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>>12717852
Mintendo 64
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What's this, like the third N64 FPGA? Surely seems like you guys are gullible. A used N64 isn't even expensive at all.
>BUT I WANT CLEARER GRAPHICS ON MY 4K HDTV!!!
It's gonna look like crap anyway. But I bet you can get a CRT additionally and it will still be cheaper than that thing.
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>>12717864
Some people just have buying things as a hobby. I'm solidly middle middle class but i see the allure myself. I fucking crave to go down to gamestop and buy something
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>>12717869
grim
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I don't need to replace my N64 and scaler, but I heard some people talking about how it is based on the MiSTer N64 core and how other cores could theoretically be ported over to the M64 as a result. Could this potentially be a better consolized MiSTer than the SuperStation One someday?
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>>12717881
god i hate smug Gen X Brits
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Uh, just emulate?
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>>12717864
>What's this, like the third N64 FPGA?
Second

>A used N64 isn't even expensive at all.
Plus expansion pak plus replacement controller joystick plus upscaler plus...

>It's gonna look like crap anyway
Analogue has an option to internally upscale, don't see why it can't be added to the M64 as well

>But I bet you can get a CRT additionally
Which at this point would cost more than the M64

>>12717890
>but I heard some people talking about how it is based on the MiSTer N64 core
It is, the guy who made the MiSTer's N64 core was hired to port his core to this thing

>Could this potentially be a better consolized MiSTer than the SuperStation One someday?
Arguable. The MiSTer is a generic device that the cores are being made for, as a result it's not specialized in any one thing so it can have all sorts of ways something can be implemented, such as using SNAC to use just about any console's native controllers or just doing it over USB or Bluetooth instead. The M64 is specialized to play N64 games, while other cores should definitely be possible to port, how many can reasonably work on it's hardware an how many other accessories it can support is not a 1:1 with the MiSTer. No single core uses every single component of the DE-10/MiSTer, but many use different components for different use cases. The M64 might not have an equivalent to something on the MiSTer that a core might need, and whether that can be worked around can heavily depend.
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Just the like Chromatic before it, Lefites on the internet will accuse you of being a nazi if you admit to owning it. Stay safe bros.
As a side note:
>gaycube-style anallog sticks
One job
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Ordered mine. Apparently they sold a fuck ton already. Haven’t received shipping notice yet.
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Seems like a lot of work to play like 8 decent games
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>>12717984
good thing i can find great games on the n64
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>>12717905
>Analogue has an option to internally upscale
Cap
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ridiculous that people keep buying these fpga consoles when the mister has existed for years.
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>>12717852
No I did not owing to my heterosexuality and normal testosterone levels
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>>12717852
The owner is an arms dealer.
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>>12718121
Cool
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>>12718121
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https://xcancel.com/Reggie/status/2082077194596049365
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Nah but I do have a superstation one on the way.
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>>12718139
Based Reggie, also lol at that "bootleg" comment, some Nintendo fans are really unhinged.
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Honestly i just care about whatever new games they will be publishing.
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>>12717852
Anyone see this?
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>>12718150
I really want to know if this only works with the M64 or if it can work with other HDMI sources.
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>>12718162
same
a dedicated 240p lossless downscaler is appealing
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>>12718121
The only man I trust to make a precision gaming machine is a man who also makes precision killing machines.
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>>12718150
What the heck is this? A downscaler?
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>>12718150
How do you get 240p out of this? Hdmi can only carry 480p minimum.
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>>12718194
Potentially, though I'm unsure if it actually is or if it's just AV converter and the downscaling is on the M64
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I'm kind of tempted but I'm bummed the controller costs $90.
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>>12718167
Does it even output 240p? Is this even real?
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>>12718121
oh NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
anyway
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>>12718223
That's what the site says
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>>12718228
I kind of doubt it looks good but maybe its doing something wacky with m64 to actually work.
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>>12718041
Sorry, I don't speak zoomer. What does that even mean?
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>>12718020
>good thing i can find great games on the n64
Same, I always used mine as a stand for my playstation.
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>>12718239
I imagine the M64 is passing direct 240p over HDMI like how the MiSTer does.
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>>12718264
That is my thoughts too, though it has power and the dials imply that it changes the signal
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>>12718197
Fuck, why can't we have a good downscaler that can make 240p with composite even and not cost a micro fortune, (including blowin up your PC PSU with old GPUs and lots of cables)
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>>12718228
Ooooooh, but is this thing only for this M64 thingy? Or can it be used for anything HDMI...how would it handle resolutions and 16:9 pillarboxing?
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>>12718297
If it uses the same direct video trick that mister does then yeah it will only work with the m64. Might work with a mister.
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>>12718297
We have to wait and see, unfortunately it's not released quite yet
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>>12717984
I have a hundred and change
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>>12717852
I gotta admit I like the goofy aesthetics of this.
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>>12718353
didnt know the homebrew scene was that active and good
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>>12718393
I don't care.
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>>12718393
What?? No! NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
anyway
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>>12717852
>You shilled yours, right anon?
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Does this thing actually output 4K?
Might be the closest thing we get to a 4K MiSTer if it does, I'm sure someone will port the more popular cores given it's open source
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waiting for rom files for the new games coming with it
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>>12717852
He needs to either fire whoever designs his shit or hire someone else to do it if he's doing it himself. Between the shitty-looking decal on his gameboy that 100% looks better removed and the giant retarded button on the M64 that doesn't look like it belongs there at all he's hit 0 for 2 on design for his products.

As much as I hate Analogue at least they design sleek products, not what looks like a rejected toy from a late 90's bargain bin
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>>12718676
but the whole point is 90s nostalgia
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>>12717852
Yup. Purple Controller, Purple Console.
>>12717920
It's all just meaningless buzzwords at the end of the day. Fuck them.
>>12718146
>some Nintendo fans are really unhinged.
Mainly tendies. The kind that spout "snoy" at everything they disagree with.
>>12718676
>not what looks like a rejected toy from a late 90's bargain bin
That's what they're trying for. It's designed to stand out, not blend in.
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>>12718129
Don't forget to savour that cock properly or mr. Trump won't let you sit on his lap afterwards
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>>12717920
>gaycube-style anallog sticks
It’s completely replaceable stick, so I have no doubt it can be replaced with a 64 like stick and gate
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>>12717852
Is he /ourguy/, /vr/?

More importantly, are flavor savers back in fash?
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>>12718676
Eh?
It’s a bit of paint, the analogue pocket is terrible ergonomics but it’s not purely an ultimate GBC
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>>12718754
Say what you will about him
At least he actually likes games and isn’t fucking pretending
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>>12718754
he looks like he is definitely a closeted bbc cuck
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>>12717852
Ordered the smoke color and a controller yesterday, as well as preordered my Neo geo aes+ ultimate edition. Physical retro making a big comeback.
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>>12717905
>Plus expansion pak plus replacement controller joystick plus upscaler plus...
>Which at this point would cost more than the M64
I picked up an N64 with 1 controller, Wave Race, Star Fox 64, and an Expansion Pak from a garage sale for $64. I got a 20" fullscreen Toshiba CRT for free off a curb. Both systems work great. I've gotten a few controllers from thrift stores for under $10 each. I've only had to replace the joystick on one so far.

There are a half dozen N64s for sale on FB in my area for under $100 and most of them include games. Same deal with decent CRTs. That would leave another $100 left over to get more games before you've even bought this thing.

Game on actual hardware. It is often cheaper then these gimmick, one trick ponies. If you aren't going to bother with the real hardware just emulate it on a computer or something.
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>>12718121
>Video game console, arms dealer
:|
>Video game console, yakuza
:D
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>>12718815
lmao
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>>12718676
I rather my 90s toy rebrands look like 90s toys and not modern minimalist shit.
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>>12718840
my only problem with the Chromatic design is that it can't lay flat on a table due to the curved part
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>>12718813
I’m getting this for playing on a CRT with improved game performance without game speed up
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Nah, Analogue already scammed me with the 3D, which doesn't even work on my ~2008 Sharp Aquos. Wii looks so good on this thing, I was really optimistic that the 3D with the CRT shader would be amazing on this era-appropriate LCD, but the thing just doesnt display any picture at all. Oh well. I can still use it on my computer monitor.
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>>12718845
Neither could a game boy color.
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>>12718779
he looks like he'll tickle your balls, while working the shaft
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I boughted because an RGB modded N64 would end up costing more, and PAL N64s are cucked to be region locked no matter what. That can be bypassed by PAL60 on a summercart but I wanna be able to play any physical game, and this thing will become a fully fledged mister with more cores down the line
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>>12719191
Does this play pal carts on a ntsc tv?
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>>12717920
>>gaycube-style anallog sticks
replacebale and they include the original gate shape to swap in
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>>12718989
That's fair, I spend most of my youth playing DMG or Pocket on the table. I don't think I ever had a GBC while it was contemporary...
>>12719208
Yes
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No. I have my childhood N64. If you don’t have a childhood N64 then you shouldn’t be allowed to experience these games this way. Stick to an emulator.
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>>12719247
Doesn’t being able to play 64 games at decent frame rates appeal to you?
And they run properly instead of unevenly like with emulators speed hacks
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>>12718930
I’d give the Modretro a try, their customer service is actually really fucking great compared to Analogue
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He notes in the launch "deep dive" video that you can load other cores on it; presumably not at launch, but pretty cool.
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>>12719220
Fuck him. Guys like him overpromised AI/technical capabilities in war, contributing to the overall decision. Now everything costs more and inflation is going up, but we are supposed to cheer for him because he is le based.
How about no.
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>>12719497
retard
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>>12719383
in fairness this thing is not that accurate
It can't pass the dk64 vine test yet
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>>12719497
Source or youre full of shit.
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>>12719383
I've never given a shit about frame rate in ANY game.
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>>12717852
What's the point of this? N64s still work, are pretty resilient so they're not likely to stop working anytime soon, are fairly inexpensive, have inexpensive flashcart options, and you can just use a $40 scaler and an S-Video cord and get nearly pixel-perfect output. So who is this for?
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I have a retrotink 5x and fortaflex s video cables that are made in italy. I think there is a middle ground between cleaning the n64 up but still having it look authentic. I'm afraid this is going to look too much like an emulator
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>>12719548
What scaler can you get for forty dollars that is designed for video games?
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>>12719571
retroscaler 2x from aliexpress
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>>12719548
$40 scaler probably does 480p that the tv takes to do a crappy bilinear upscale to 4k. Part of the appeal of these things is that they will do native 4k to preserve the pixels better before bilinear is introduced. a scaler that can take 240p and spit out a smartly scaled 4k costs like $500
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Why would anyone get this or the Analogue 3D instead of
>emulating on PC for free with all the bells and whistles you'd want
Or
>buying an original N64 and a CRT to get the most accurate experience possible
?
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>>12719383
I want to play them at the original framerates for an authentic experience.
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>>12719383
If I want the games to run differently than they’re supposed to then I’ll do it on an emulator on my PC, not on some unitasker device.
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>>12719604
N64 still can't be emulated and you need the N64 controller for accurate gameplay.
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>>12719782
Yeah man. N64 can’t be emulated.
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>>12719782
>N64 still can't be emulated
lol
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>>12719782
Are we pretending that FPGA isn't emulation still?
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>>12719782
these consoles are emulators, lmao. also software emulation for the n64 has been great for many years now
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>>12719548
Thank you for snitching, now troons are gonna jerk up the N64 prices on shitbayOH WAIT, TOO LATE FAG!
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>>12718676
Chromatic it's expensive but god damn it looks good and it's made by a non degenerate and it's military quality! Plus it's screen it's dot matrix without color correction enabled (I think it's optional)
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Neat, but I'll stick with my original system on my Sony Trinitron
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>>12719856
>not playing on a panasonic the way miyamoto intended
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>>12719581
Is that just a Chinese clone of the retrotink 2x
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>>12719856
>Nice, but I am a poser, I won right!?
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>>12719247
I have my childhood 64, and still picked up an A3D and this just to fuck around w. I’m loving that modretro is encouraging people to go back and make games specifically for the system. Would be awesome to get some brand new titles in the next few years and these console remakes/fpga’s are only going to encourage that so I help they sell a ton. Just how I look at it
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>>12719585
That makes me happy to know I have a 1080p qled. the one only model Samsung ever made.
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>>12718697
Purple is the sneakiest color
It works for the phantom.
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>>12717852
>>12718754
when is he going to start making QRTs
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>>12719762
Yeah but the point is it can’t on emulator
Both the analogue 3D and M64 will play the games with higher FPS without the game speeding up
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>>12719990
CRT’s?
They have actually teased that they may make them
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>>12718150
>No SCART
Useless.
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>>12719996
You absolutely can on an emulator.
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>>12720502
Have you tried doing it on emulator?
It just speeds up games unevenly instead of just improving framerate
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>>12718813
>I picked up an N64 with 1 controller, Wave Race, Star Fox 64, and an Expansion Pak from a garage sale for $64. I got a 20" fullscreen Toshiba CRT for free off a curb.
Cool, you got lucky. I picked up a purple N64 with a controller and Mario Kart for $20 from a garage sale, doesn't mean I am going to go around expecting everyone to be able to get a N64 with controller and game for $20 just because I lucked out at a garage sale. or you lucked out with one for $64. I still have my childhood N64 but figured it was cheap enough to get another. One guy sold me a CIB Megaman for 25 cents a few years ago, that normally goes for $200-300 on eBay, doesn't mean you can argue everyone can just find someone at a garage sale selling Megaman for 25 cents.

For 98% of people their only option is likely going to be online auction sites, which won't be cheap.

>>12719497
What does building military drones have to do with the current LLMs incorrectly calling themselves "AI" that are spending billions they won't recoup over-buying every piece of storage and RAM on the planet? You realize these drones are not running "AI"s like the ones all over the news right? Nor do they need petabytes of storage or terrabytes of RAM?

>>12719507
Nothing passes that, I wouldn't be surprised if there are flashcarts or mods at this point that make it fail even on real hardware.

https://modretro.com/blogs/blog/fpga-development-deep-dive
>What does it tell about accuracy when a software emulator or FPGA device makes Donkey Kong grab the vine?
>Actually, not much. An emulator could fulfill these requirements by rendering 30 frames per second and stall for some frames at the right position. While this is a very extreme example, it still passes the "vine test" but would be wrong for numerous reasons.

>>12719548
>and you can just use a $40 scaler and an S-Video cord and get nearly pixel-perfect output
Bullshit, especially since there is no way to get an RGB signal from the N64 without mods
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>>12720510
S-Video is fine
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>>12720512
>S-Video is fine
Now that's what I call cope
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>>12720494
A little bit of a bummer but I’m sure you already have a method of changing that if you have 6th gen consoles
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>>12720401
Fuck he might be the only man that can.
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>>12720617
Even if they do make them, I doubt you could get them unless you're in the US
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>>12720509
Yes and no it doesn't.
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>>12720619
No one else matters.
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>>12720632
>Yes and no it doesn't.
OK, so you haven't
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>>12720401
yes, he said something about a "quantum ray tube" I believe
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>>12720641
Works fine for me. What emulator are you trying it on?
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>>12720656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s3r8lNGyxg
vs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLWhJn9vLzU
notice the differences?
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>>12718041
I think what he means is the Analogue 3D has the option to run interlaced games with the full frame buffer, essentially giving a 480pish image. ModRetro is open sourcing everything so even if it doesn't get added in their official firmware someone else could always add it.
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>>12717869
I used to kinda be this way

Then I remembered there’s no games I want to play

I still want to go and buy crap anyway but I talk myself out of it
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has there been any talk about this thing running roms directly from an sd card or something?
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>>12720509
You’re doing it wrong.
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>>12720671
Use your words big boy, I’m not watching your videos.
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>>12720995
>>12720996
That’s your own fault then
If you’re happy with sped up games that’s fine
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>>12721009
I said you’re doing it wrong, not me. You didn’t buy some magic box that can do things 20 year old emulators can’t.
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>>12717852
Was a little tempted but decided to go for a Retroid Pocket Nova instead.
I don't play enough N64 to justify a console I have no space to plug in atm.
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>>12721036
Your ignorance is bliss I guess
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>>12718121
Arms manufacturer is not the same as an arms dealer.
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>>12720671
>4 year old video
How about finding a new one?
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>>12721267
I accept your concession.
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>>12720617
There is a company that is actively developing a crt/vhs combo. I asked them what they thought the price point would be but they haven’t landed on one yet. I’d imagine it’s going to be around 500. It’s in my email somewhere if I find it I’ll let you know the company that’s doing it.
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>>12721278
>the feature in beta is the same as when its completed
uh huh
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>>12721187
>hamburger chef isn't the same as the hamburger waiter
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>>12720617
https://retrododo.com/retrobox-are-bringing-back-the-vhs-combo-crt-with-modern-touches/

Not sure exactly how this works, but I’d be interested to see reviews on it when it’s officially released. Also it’s less then 500 like I said so, who knows if it’ll be worth it, but it would be nice if it works just like a crt w retro games. I guess we will see. Sounds like they are pretty far along in development but I didn’t read the whole thing.
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>>12721280
>>12721291
NOT a crt.
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>>12721286
It's OK that you don't understand anon, just move on
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>>12721295
Ok
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>>12717852
Bing bing wahoo 64 got a PC port so this is pointless
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>>12717852
Since it's PC-compatible, I just snagged a green controller since it seems to be one of the best options we've got now for replacement N64 controllers. Though I'm also interested in seeing how that Hyperkin controller (Captain+) fares as a cheaper, strictly N64 option since they're also being sold with M64s and made in matching color schemes.
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>>12721523
Thanks for that stunning and brave opinion
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>>12721609
Video esoterica said it was the best n64 controller he had ever used (not sure if he’s counting the OEM ogs or not). I picked one up to try. I’ve been swapping back and forth between an 8 dollar AliExpress and great condition OEM controller and I honestly can’t tell the difference. All I have tested it w so far is OoT tho. I’m sure a speed runner would notice the difference or maybe w racing games it would be noticeable but so far I really can’t tell the difference. At the very least it’s a good alternative if you have friends over for cheap extra controllers.
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Why would anyone buy these things when mister exists
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M64 console and Pro controller just arrived, will be playing it all weekend, let me know if there’s anything you want me to test or fuck around with
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>>12721681
I have a MiSTer, an Analogue 3d, and an M64 on the way.
>>12721694
Jealous, I'm waiting on my shipping notification.
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>>12721743
For what purpose?
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>>12721694
Lucky. Mine's not coming until August.
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>>12721749
I like retro games and I like hardware. I'm planning to get rid of the A3D because I rather dislike using it, M64 UI looks much less annoying. The MiSTer I have mainly for the computer cores and it was a $150 chinese clone so not like I spent $500 on some bespoke unit.
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>>12721818
I guess you got a point, I got a real n64 with a flash cart but mostly play on my mister
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>>12721165
I mean, if your unitasker emulator box makes you feel blissful then have fun being ignorant I guess.
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>>12717920
Just got mine and the it's hard to explain but it feels closer to an N64 stick than a GameCube stick. I tried the 8BitDo stick with Mario 64 and it immediately felt off, the M64 stick by contrast felt pitch perfect.
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>>12721681
Has a more powerful chip.
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>>12721838
>no you
Ok mate
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https://aftermath.site/war-crime-n64-palmer-luckey-m64-modretro/
Do better, anons.
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>>12717852
Meh, I already have pj64 on my internet computer
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>>12722638
What a sad little website, every article is straight out of Bluesky.
>created by former kotaku writers
That explains it.
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>>12722109
Tell me more. Does the centre have more resistance until you move it further out?
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>>12721775
You got the smoke from Gamestop? I think that looks the best, but no way I was waiting that long.
If it's any consolation, I'm encountering issues with the Pro Controller when it's plugged in- no rumble, phantom inputs.

>>12722109
You have any issues with rumble when you plug it in, or phantom inputs?
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>>12722687
NTA but I'm pretty sure the CEO said the resistance is changeable or something
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>>12722748
Nah, got purple on the website. I'm just on the east coast.
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>>12722128
Every comparison I've seen shows it playing games the same as mister. The only difference I've seen is on the A3D, it's turbo mode is a little faster than mister.
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The green one is best and it's controller sold out so you can't get it sorry
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>>12722128
This is the only reason I have any interest in it, along with it being open source. Could mean potentially it could become like a more powerful MiSTer. Wouldn't be interested otherwise. Course, that depends if people take to it like they did with the Analogue Pocket or if it gets ignored.

>>12722638
>Site is advertising that it is currently "hater week" where they basically whine about things they hate
>Check videogame articles
>Whining about journalism, whining about dark souls being hard, bipolar articles about hating something then another article right after about loving that same thing
Yeah, no, this is someone's Bluesky account disguised as a website, even the URL looks more like malware domain than an actual gaming site. If you're going to have a website about videogames, then stick to videogames, don't make it an excuse to make it political.

Look at the shit Gizmodo, a supposedly "tech site", wrote about it:
https://gizmodo.com/modretro-m64-specs-vs-analogue-3d-black-friday-announcement-2000691408
https://gizmodo.com/the-arms-dealers-nintendo-64-was-pure-emotional-torment-to-play-2000767832

Same person wrote both articles, same person also wrote an article glazing the Analogue 3D. If you run a tech site, I expect news about tech, not your political hot takes. (Why are people even up in arms about this one guy so much? He makes weapons, big deal, several other corporations like Microsoft and Sony are also involved in that, and there are far far worse things other people have done which nobody bats an eye at)

>>12722832
I would wait personally, the Analogue 3D had a lot pf problems at launch that got ironed out in software updates. I would like to see how a real N64, a MiSTer, an Analogue 3D, and a M64 stack up about a year from now. These things always are a bumpy ride on release.
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>>12722885
To be honest my only interest in anything other than mister is for some sort of mister 2 or whatever to get more arcade cores. Really would like Taito G-Net and Konami M2 to make a few. Also it would be nice to nail down that last few percent to make Saturn perfect.
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>>12717852
n64 would be cooler with an SSD and a network adapter
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>>12722638
>>12722885
Jesus fucking christ. I read these for the hell of it, genuinely felt like I was being lobotomized. But I can't say I'm surprised. These people are known for being "tolerant and inclusive" until someone steps out of line.
Anyway, excited to play Diddy Kong Racing on this thing.
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>>12722918
Tell us how it runs overclocked
And yes, those people are extremely bigoted, in the true meaning of the word
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>>12722893
Same here, like I said, that's the only reason I have even a passing interest in the M64, but I highly doubt it will get a fraction of the cores MiSTer has simply because of the work it would take to port all of those over, and the hardware likely has enough differences that some would not be feasible to do without huge rework.
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>>12723079
Yeah, that's the thing with all these other fpga consoles. They arnt getting more cores right? I'm not sure how it will come around but the community really has to focus on a new fpga platform that ideally will be back compatible with mister.
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>>12723147
Well, it was mostly Analogue making them, and other than the Pocket all of theirs were always closed source and not intended to ever have other cores loaded on them. Even the Pocket is not fully open and has part of it's hardware locked away. M64 is fully open.
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>>12723176
Yeah but I dunno if the fpga in it is THAT much more "powerful" than the DE10-Nano.
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>>12723185
It is way more powerful
Source: I made it up
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>>12723185
At the very least it has room for more complex cores.
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>>12723185
It’s probably not, but I think it’s a more dedicated FPGA vs the Cyclone which has an ARM chip on board as far as I’m aware
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>>12723329
Dont you need some sort of ARM chip to run the OS? Ya know, for as much as I use mister I never thought about how it works on a OS level
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>>12723334
I’m not 100 percent sure but I think these are the two chips
>M64 - artix ultrascale+
>A64 - cyclone 10gx
You can probably get some info from that
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>>12723354
Yeah, it's fun to research. Though I think we are probably 5 to 10 years from a mister 2 type of thing. I don't even want newer consoles, maybe Dreamcast would be cool but for real 6th consoles I think mister is pointless. Now if it could do a pentium with a voodoo, that would be cool.

Like I said before, I just want more arcade hardware. Evil Night at home with a guncon would be great
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>>12723374
>pentium with a voodoo
Pentium with a voodoo essentially is 6th gen tier.
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>>12722687
I don't feel more resistance. There are different "sensitivity" settings you can use, I've been switching between them and depending on different games I use different ones.
They've said they're thinking about bringing out additional game-specific settings that you can apply. There are different spring strengths that have only been given out to testers, aren't available for purchase (yet), along with hopefully a thinner stick.
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>>12722923
Overclocking runs great, but I've only tried a handful of games. Pilotwings is genuinely a joy to play now.
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>>12718754
as a pltr shareholder I will buy one not even because I am interested in the technology.
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>>12723776
I just hope buy these fpga consoles up to encourage games being made for them. Clearly people want the consoles, so here’s to hoping devs are noticing and will start producing games for them. Retro is the way to go, since Sony and Xbox are going all digital and they can’t even keep their platforms from going down lmao. Modern gaming is in such a terrible state, at least on console while retro gamers have never been eating better between the A3D, M64, the handhelds dedicated to the gameboy era, the AES+ being cross compatible w the old stuff and them rereleasing old titles, emulation is getting better and better and so many options to play roms.
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>>12724134
The guy that made Junk Runner is making a new game
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>>12724139
Haven’t even heard of that. I’ll look it up
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>>12724139
Oh that’s the same guy who was working on Portal 64. Damn I wish he was able to finish that, so fucking impressive. Junk Runner looks technically impressive but just watching it, kind of boring to play. Idk I would try it tho for sure just for the sheer technical prowess of having a massive streaming open world game on the 64. Interested to see what he comes up w next for sure.
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>>12724197
Looks like some sort of adventure game
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>>12724139
fuck yeah, hope Modretro is funding and distributing it
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>>12718676
i hated the button feel and traded mine away
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>>12724574
>i hated the button feel
really?
That's half the reason why I love it
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>>12722687
Haven't had much time to test it but I just did a side-by-side Mario 64 comparison swapping between an OEM controller, the M64 pro controller, and an OEM controller modded with the 8BitDo wireless board and hall effect stick. OEM stick still feels far and away the best but the M64 stick gets a lot closer than the 8BitDo one. I wish they'd found a way to replicate the skinny N64 stick since it still feels like that one has the finest range of inputs. It's still not quite as easy to tiptoe in Mario with the M64 stick but it at least feels like it has a greater range of inputs than the 8BitDo stick which feels much more rigid in comparison.
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>>12724634
The stick assembly is designed to be swappable and they plan to release different "stiffness level" parts after release, I can imagine they will probably sell different stick types later as well or someone will use the available files to make their own on Etsy or something.
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>>12724634
I got a green one just because, but that light on the smoke one I’m guessing it is, looks obnoxiously bright. I hope it’s duller on the green one. I play in the dark and that just looks annoying. Glad the stick seems to be almost as good as oem tho
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>>12724219
Interesting. The guy knows what he’s doing for sure. The music and atmosphere seem pretty decent in junk runner but he seems to be a technical guy. The creative part… maybe he needs a partner for that but we’ll see. Team sizes were to big for the n64 and especially now w all the knowledge on how to work the system to get the best results I’d imagine you wouldn’t need more than 2-3 people but again, junk runner seems devoid of actual fun just from watching it, more like a “wow I can’t believe this is possible” type game. Did you play it enough to form an opinion on it? I guess we’ll see if he’s got the goods for more than just tech w the adventure game.
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>>12724712
Weren’t*
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>>12724134
There should be enhancements for the games if they run on the fpga hardware. Higher res textures or something.
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>>12724712
Team sizes weren't that big, Goldeneye was made with 5 people. And the code and tools people have access to today are much more robust, not to mention the prevalence of artistic skills.
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Ordered mine before even getting the email that the sale had gone live, surely I'll get my shipment notification soon. Right?
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>>12717852
why do we need this if original n64's overwhelmingly still work
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>>12724712
he explained in his videos on the engine that it was a tech demo and they didn't have enough time to fill the world with interesting content
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>>12724735
Makes sense. It’s still an absolute marvel of a technical accomplishment for the 64.
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>>12724734
I actually bought one partially because my N64 has started crashing randomly. I used a test ROM to see if it could identify any hardware failures but it came up clean so maybe my expansion pak is dying. I figure once I get the DAC and can use it on a CRT it'll be a better than stock experience.
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>>12717852
Whats the purpose of this things instead of just emulating?
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>>12719856
sucks because you cannot find CRT's anymore without someone charging a arm and leg for it because its now a retro gaymin tv.
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>>12717852
got me a red one with a red controller. time to play some conkers and MM
>>12725573
because some of us like physical games and we already own them.
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>>12725573
I'd hazard this is mainly for the physical game crowd, and those who want a clean solution to play multiplayer games on modern TVs more straightforwardly
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>>12717852
that looks disgusting
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>>12725694
Ordered purple on purple but I was contemplating the red heavy. I'll probably order a second controller in red if it actually feels better than my 8BitDo stick modded one.
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>>12720520
>Compatibility Fixes: Address low FPS bugs
Are they talking about framerates being too low or too high?
There's some N64 games like DK64 where the framerate being fucking garbage is what enables certain speedrun skips. But unless you're a speedrunner you probably wouldn't want the framerates to be fucking garbage.
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>>12717905
>plus upscaler
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>>12719474
>I’d give the Modretro a try, their customer service is actually really fucking great compared to Analogue

Lol are you the jeet doing their customer service?
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>>12717852
>You ordered yours, right anon?

No. Why would you spend money on this crap when you can play on emulator with higher resolution etc
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I have a suspicion that certain people just buy all this stuff and have like almost every single product related.
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I just got an N64 for "free"(traded for a dreamcast and a few games) last week and it's peak. ModRetro 64 is literally the worst of both worlds when it comes to retro gaming; void of the soul of original hardware and still more expensive then emulation.
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>>12727018
And the new games for it look like those ugly ass contemporary arcade shovelware cabinets.
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>>12727002
>>12727006
>>12727015
ok "Dave"
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>>12718676
ModRetro is just trailing in Analogue's wake with the same but worse products. The only reason I can see for their popularity is greater availability of their consoles.
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>>12719497
>Now everything costs more and inflation is going up
The inflation is bc we printed 1/3 of our current money supply during covid.
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>>12725694
n64 is a shitty console to own anything for :)
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>>12727113
>The only reason I can see for their popularity is greater availability of their consoles.
Pretty much, unlike Anal-log, they they don't seem to subscribe to the FOMO business model. plus they have retail presence thanks to Gamestop (they sell the Chromatic in their stores and website, plus have their own exclusive, if rather ugly, color variant for it. It's very likely they'll carry the M64 too).
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I wanna get one if only because Palmer Luckey makes Muslims and blue haired people mad
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>>12728070
>It's very likely they'll carry the M64 too
The Smoke (all black) version is a Gamestop exclusive.
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>>12728013
...is what I would say if I were a retard.
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are the fucking roms out yet
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>>12728772
Only xibalba is new
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>>12728784
I want the rom for it
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>>12728785
Just get the steam version
It’s a pretty meh game
The other 3 are way better
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>>12727113
Their stuff is more durable than Analogue's, it's built to last and gives you way more options for customizing hardware and software. I don't think Analogue makes bad products per se but their FOMO marketing style rubs me the wrong way.
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>>12728419
Name 1 good n64 game. No, Mario and Zelda don't make the cut. Show me a single game as good as MGS.
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>>12717852
the n64 desperately needs a network adapter for playing recompiled quake
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>>12729041
Perfect Dark and Goldeneye
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>>12729050
Well it does have wi-fi and the console is open source
I’d be curious if anyone would be willing to make a version that’s network compatible
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>>12729041
Bomberman Hero and Winback. MGS is over rated, Syphon Filter is the better PS1 game
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>>12729798
>Winback
looks kind of poorly made, anon
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>>12729813
Get your eyes checked bro, that looks like great gameplay to me
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>>12729816
there's an npc running straight into a wall the entire time
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>>12729818
You wouldn't understand zoom zoom, go "play" MGS, it's more your speed. And by "play" I mean watch bullshit ass FMVs with writing that would get laughed out of a direct to VHS Steven Seagal movie.
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>>12729827
I'm probably older than you. I can tolerate some npc silliness if the AI underneath is genuinely good. Goldeneye has good AI. That game you showed me just looks rough around the edges. I'm sure the devs were ambitious but come on.
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https://youtu.be/9gOJUEcKYRk?is=VIdHgBUatbQL9HK8

I really wish someone put this amount of thought and effort into a regular mister console. I know the M64 is open source and *could* get all the cores mister has but I don't think that's gonna happen. As far as I know the M64 doesn't support SNAC at all, that makes it DOA for me.

Have a Mod Retro Controller on its way to me, I love how much thought they put into that as well. I really really really hope they do a Dual Shock shaped one as well with the same level of detail and repairability in mind.
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>>12729831
Brother, I'm in my 40s. Even if you are older than me you are spiritually a zoom zoom and simply cannot understand quality video games.
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>>12729835
You're falling for Palmer Luckey's salesmanship. Shit like "We really got the best PLASTIC in this product!", you're getting exciting about fucking plastic.
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>>12729836
The game has very bad music too. And the opening cutscene demonstrates they wanted to use comic book poses but didn't know how to animate and present them naturally.
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>>12729838
Did you watch the video? Especially the part on the controller and serviceability? Have you held a lot of supposedly premium retro controllers? 8bitdo and Retro Brawler? Hell I like the 8bitdo 64 controller, just feels a bit cheap and they don't last at all.

Maybe I'm a dumb goy afterall, I'll post up when my Mod Retro Controller comes. I hope it's good and I hope regular mister gets Bluetooth 6.2 support
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>>12717852
>even Reggie is looking forward to it
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>>12729839
https://youtu.be/D53kToiQI9k?is=kuxTg1YzT049p1xW

Like I said bro, you just don't get it.
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>>12729851
some bland stealth game drum track. where's the BANGERS?
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>>12720494
apparently there are cables which convert the 6 colored ones into RGB. I'd still rather it just had the direct output port on the console itself like superstation though
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>>12729883
It has RGB output via the RCA jacks
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>>12729831
>Goldeneye has good AI
Ah, yes, enemies running right in front of me with a single pistol when I am wearing full kevlar and dual-wielding automatic weapons and then just standing there slowly taking pot-shots at me is good AI, right.

I remember being floored when the enemies in Perfect Dark would actually surrender if they saw they were laughably outmatched against you.
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Mine shipped on the 1st and is due to arrive to me in the UK tomorrow which is fucking insane. original estimate was friday
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No shipping notification on mine yet, but I ordered an extra for my brother in law so I might be at the back of the line.
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Kinda of off topic but what's the best way to get RGB out of a N64?
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>>12729835
>>12729883

how come no third party controller did something like this? lets you reach those pesky a & b buttons much easier in the dpad + analog grip. No downsides. Would make Goldeneye and Perfect Dark much better games.
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>>12730147
That looks awful to use to be honest
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>>12730158
how
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>>12730161
I dunno bro, that just looks awful. I don't understand the issue with the regular default controls in GoldenEye
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>>12730165
In perfect dark, control scheme 1.2 is almost a modern control scheme. You walk and strafe with the d-pad and aim with the analog. Try reaching the A and B button. Duplicate A and B buttons would make the 1.2 control scheme more usable.
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>>12730123
Depends on your model, earlier N46's had traces that carried the separate RGB signals into a chip that processes it into composite, you can just tap into those traces with an amplifier chip that amplifies those signals enough to be picked up by a CRT and connects them to the unused RGB pins of the video port, then you can just use the same RGB cable you would use for a SNES.

If you have a later model you need a far more complicated mod to get an RGB signal out of it that's not too different from the level of complexity of the HDMI mods to install. The HDMI mods used to also do RGB at the same time, but they don't support that anymore for cost reasons.

https://retrorgb.com/n64rgbcompatible.html
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Who will be the first to mod N64 with 16MiB of RD-RAM and boot the MIPS build of Windows NT on it
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>>12730220
I would post my install of that RGB kit but it was one of the first soldering projects I ever did and looks like Helen Keller did it
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>>12730220
Thanks, I'll take a look at my console when I get home.
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>>12730220
yea the rgb mod on my n64 was absolutely not a novice level solder project. I'm pretty confident if it fell 1ft something would break.
maybe these newer mods are easier.
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>>12717852
Gaytendo 69
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>>12730430
Could be worse >>12726986
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>>12729835
>I know the M64 is open source and *could* get all the cores mister has but I don't think that's gonna happen
We’ll see. ModRetro absolutely knows how having the ability for multiple cores is extremely attractive. If they’re smart (and they definitely have the marketing smarts, the money, and one of the top programming guys involved) as soon as they get past ironing out launch roadmap and bugs, they’d very quickly atleast announce they’re working on releasing more cores.
This instantly sets them apart from the A3D. Add on potentially selling cartridge adapters, controller adapters, etc? Easy money.
I had several friends say they’re not currently interested, but once it has SNES and/or PSX cores it’s an insta-purchase for them.
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>>12730694
The issue I think m64 is going to run into is first, no snac port. Secondly and more importantly. Lotta people that make these cores are not going to want to make anything for anything related to Palmer Lucky for political reasons.
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>>12730694
The thing is that I see the mister project waiting a decent while before moving on to another fpga. Something that can handle emulating a dreamcast properly at least.
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Does this work with summercart64?
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>>12730984
should
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>>12730147
I can reach the buttons already with no issue, except that my thumb has to come off the stick to press
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>>12731228
>with no nissue
uhh i think there's an issue there you asshole
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>>12731250
You alright there buddy?
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>N64 is like $50 tops
>less for a beat up one
>still works fine
>nothing really to even wear out
So who's the market for something like this? What is the point? I can't imagine any sane person buying this over a N64.
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>>12730220
>NS2

with the S-Video plebs..
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>>12731430
4K scaling and >>12720671
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>>12731430
the target market is quite generally people who own an n64 but are horrified by composite and original framerates on their OLED living room tv
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>>12722638
I'm aspiring to do worse, actually.
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>>12722885
>(Why are people even up in arms about this one guy so much? He makes weapons, big deal, several other corporations like Microsoft and Sony are also involved in that, and there are far far worse things other people have done which nobody bats an eye at)
That's a post-hoc justification to paper over the the real, much more petty reason that they hate him, that being he's an icky right winger.
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>>12729041
>No, Mario and Zelda don't make the cut.
They do, you fartsniffing hipster queer.
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I plugged mine into a car battery and it overheated wtf!?
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>>12731678
Not on n64, they don't. N64 games are not good games.
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>>12730697
The guy currently making the n64 core for them seems to enjoy the ModRetro payroll. Why not keep the payroll going with more cores?
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>>12730984
Currently using the Summercart64 on mine, haven't noticed any issues so far but I've only played the mainstream classics and bigger fan hacks the past few days.
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>>12731882
Wrong. Those N64 games are good games.
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>>12722885
>>12731590
True, at least Microsoft pays lip service to idpol nonsense while openly working with the DoD and allowing the IDF to use their services for mass surveillance, only the turbo lefties that don't even drink Coca-Cola because of Palestine will boycott them as well. The general population just get annoyed at them because of muh studio layoffs or some other shit and forget about it a month later and buy GTA VI anyways. Somehow being openly conservative is the unforgivable sin here.
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>>12728180
Aww that’s gay, that’s the best color and it’s a GameStop exclusive. Didn’t realize that or I would’ve ordered that one instead of the clear one I got.
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I wish they would’ve made the GameStop exclusive one gold color. I have my og gold toys r us edition and a gold A3D, would have been perfect trifecta for a gold console and especially a gold controller. Yes I “looovvveeee gold”
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>>12731897
Yeah and I think most popular consoles will get a core but all the arcade stuff? I dunno if that will happen
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>>12731915
the whole point of identity politics, "safety" officers and the like is to give the company an excuse to snoop into people's business and bust unions.
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>>12718121
Even fucking better, it sounds like a fun fucking job. I would happily do it too.
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>>12732107
the gray looks sleek but I think it defeats the idea of the shameless 90's electronics aesthetic.
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>>12718121
Is this upsetting to CCP members?
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motherfuckers don't even include an hdmi cable >:(
yeah, no big deal, its not like hdmi is a temperamental little bitch and using the wrong cable can cause issues on and off
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>>12717905
If you're gonna get all this fake Frankenstein shit you might as well just emulate lmfao
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>>12732919
It is emulation bro
It’s just emulating through hardware and it can overclock
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>>12732893
I have so many laying around but you’re right, pretty cheap of them to not include an hdmi cable desu. I can’t remember if my A3D came w one or not.
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>>12732290
Fair enough. Maybe they will lay the ground work and provide the framing to make cores easier to port?
There’s a Patreon money maker right there.
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>>12732986
a hardware clone is not an emulator. if you think that then ps2 slim is also an emulator.
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>>12733405
mister isnt a hardware clone
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>>12732986
AMD Am386 and Cyrix 486SLC are both "emulators" according to this faggot retard.
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>>12733408
an fpga reimplementation is a hardware clone
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>>12732893
>hdmi cable >:(
$1 at Goodwill
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>>12733418
it's hardware emulation. not a clone
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>>12733415
Clones are different again
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>>12721289
Yes? Those aren't the same.
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>>12721289
>hamburger shop*
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So now that I have this, should I look into getting a Chromatic for the future?
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>>12718121
Ok, I'm sold!
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I want to love this but the fuckin sound don't work on my tv and rumble seems to come and go randomly. Software side of things definitely needs more time to cook. 64DD games don't work via summercart either
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>>12733452
Fpga's effectively become hardware clones when the core is loaded.
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>>12733743
I’ve seen numerous of those complaints online, so they’re likely aware and hopefully working on a fix.
My rumble doesn’t work for shit either, but atleast I’ve got sound. Haven’t tried DD yet on Summercart
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>>12733013
it didnt.
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>>12724628
too loud at night and meh i just didnt like em, maybe their gba clone buttons might be better
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>>12718121
I didn't want it, but I will get it now
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>>12732986
What's the fucking point

Either go for original hardware 100% as it was in the 90s

Or just emulate on pc for convenience
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>>12734047
With this one?
So its accurate to hardware while also overclocking and running better
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>>12734047
what if i overclock the original hardware?
https://youtu.be/DdqhWO3E67w
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Still haven't received a shipping notification and now they're saying shit's out of stock. I ordered the fucking thing as soon as it went live this is bullshit.
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>>12734170
I also ordered the AV receiver so I assume mines set aside until it’s ready
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I have to say the controller swapped to have the original style gate is quite kino
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>>12733983
I emailed them about all those things, and for the sound, they said a fix will be rolled out within the week and that they would pass along the rumble feedback to their team. Still waiting on the reply in regards to 64DD. I also noticed that controller pak wasn't detected in Snowboard Kids, so not sure if they've implemented the built in one yet
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>>12733418
>words mean what a child on youtube told me
But of course they do sweaty
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>>12734170
Wait what’s out of stock, the pre order for that receiver or the console or a controller that you ordered?
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>>12734134
>accurate to hardware
You can't say that while there are still games the m64 can't play. Also many games will crash when played overclocked.
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>>12734704
Right, how does that mean I’m wrong though?
Hopefully it will get perfect accuracy but it is still accurate to hardware now, regardless of issues
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>>12734721
Thats the most retarded thing I've ever heard.
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>>12734587
Fuck, was hoping the other issues would also be fixed this week as well, guess that’s asking for a lot.
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>>12734134
>accurate to hardware
It isn't, not even remotely close. It's very much in the "everything is playable, what are you complaining about?" stage of emulation. They promise to make it better, but promises are cheap.
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>>12735258
But not everything is playable.
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>>12734616
Receiver anon was different, the console/controller was out of stock per an email I got on Monday morning.
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>>12734607
holy fuck that's projection if i've ever seen it
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>>12735358
hopefully the clears are still in stock
Red and Green seem to be the favorite colors
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>>12717852
Looks like troon made shit design using AI and went with it.
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>>12735579
Genuinely thought the fan favorite would've been Purple. Especially considering Atomic Purple was Nintendo's thing during the 90's. Granted this is more Grape.
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>>12735621
i don't like the design either, it's not reminiscent of any of the good aspects of the original design
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>>12734704
>Also many games will crash when played overclocked.
What does games crashing if you intentionally run them out of spec have to do with being accurate to real hardware?

>>12734721
>Hopefully it will get perfect accuracy but it is still accurate to hardware now, regardless of issues
How the fuck is it "accurate to hardware" if it has issues running games that run on real hardware?

>>12735621
They actually hate this thing because it's made by an arms dealer who is right wing
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My N64 is fine, what are you trying to persuade me with?
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Has anyone tried Peach's Fury on this thing? That romhack is supposed to work on real hardware, but doesn't run on the MiSTer core, and the software for this was made by the same person who made the N64 and PSX core on the MiSTer.
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>>12735579
Green is the only one I like desu. Red and purple seem too saturated and the contrasting power button / dial clashes too much
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>>12735832
ya i can put up with the weird looking stub feet but the button and dial standing out like that kill it for me

the controller looks alright
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>>12735839
At least from the sounds of it they will sell different shells and shit separately someday
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>>12735579
I got a clear w green controller. Wish I had went w the GameStop smoke color tho, because I’m not a fan of any of their colors desu. If they end up releasing a gold version like A3D did imma have to trade this clear one off or sell it to get the gold because I want everything matching like a weird freak.
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>>12735358
Damn, well the GameStop one is still up for reservation and I doubt these things will stay sold out. The A3D’s got stocked back up quick only the colors like gold stay sold out as far as everytime I’ve checked in. Hope you get one soon anon.
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You can power the console on from holding down start on the controller. Really like that
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>>12735670
I also want to know
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Anyone else having an issue where it doesn't save your custom filter preset?
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>>12736234
Yes it doesn’t save on anyone’s console, coming in future update
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>>12736239
Supposedly there’s bunch of fixes coming at the end of the week
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>>12736306
I hope so. The only one I heard confirmed was the fix for certain audio receivers
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>>12735670
Heh
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>>12736472
Another confirmed one is how the 4th controller port can randomly light up cause they told me its an issue they're aware of already
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>>12736603
why would an italian man order pasta?
pizza I can see. it's barely italian as it is. sometimes you want some of that greasy, filthy pepperoni abomination all over your face
but pasta? what a disgrace to your ancestors. baba booye!
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I hope lucky palmtree can iron out those bugs cause my original N64 doesnt read carts half the time
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>>12737013
Clean your cart port
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>>12737091
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I support this product because Palmer Luckey makes incellefties seeth. Its insane to me how they cant mentally differentiate between anduril and this product. in their heads they are supporting israel/mass killing or whatever. pure insanity.
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>>12737170
so you think people who refuse to support a product made by a guy with views and actual actions they find abhorrent are stupid
but you came here to tell us you support a product only because you formed this vague idea in your head that this vague group of people you vaguely dislike HATE the guy who's responsible for it?
I agree that his military industrial complex is a completely different beast and it's ridiculous to think "supporting" what is essentially a fun little hobbie is going to do anything at the level his arms deals operate at, though. which is why I bought one
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>>12737180
>views and actual actions
What did he actually do?
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>>12737207
financially supported a pedophile, actively spitting on Tolkien's grave
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>>12737265
It's hard to buy a product these days without supporting someone who's done the former.
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>>12737274
it's pretty easy not to actively promote products by pedophile supporters
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>>12737285
After the epstein files, not really
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>>12737180
It's pointless to act like it makes a shred of difference, Anduril makes high-tech drones for the US military, a single drone likely makes more profit than everything Modretro has ever made combined. It doesn't matter if Modretro completely went bankrupt because by some miracle their protests actually did anything, it would not even be the equivalent of Palmer losing pocket change in the long run. If you feel like you can't sleep at night unless you refuse to buy it, fine, but insisting that others also not buy it just because you disagree as if that would make the slightest bit of difference is just idiotic and virtue signaling. Even stupider when a tech site "refuses" to cover it while they have no problem covering other products that are marred in similar controversy, such as that new Neo-Geo.

And I support the M64 not because of Palmer's views, in fact I am against them, but because it's heavily open source and repairable. We need more products like that, it looks more repairable and configurable than the Steam Deck, which is quite a feat for a modern consumer device. Analogue are the opposite of that, most other devices are the opposite of that, Palmer is clearly doing this because he actually is passionate about the product instead of caring about it churning a profit, he has Aduril for profit, this is purely for the love of the game, and that's why I support it and think it's asinine to be against it. Might as well go support Limited Run Games taking over production of retro games while you're at it, we need more products designed with the M64's philosophy and less products designed with Analogue's locked down philosophy. Politics behind the products be damned, even if a million people protested Modretro it would not effect Palmer's bottom line, but it would cause more closed down and consumer-unfriendly products like the Analogue3D to flourish over consumer-friendly, open source, and repairable products like the M64.
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>>12737170
I think alot of companies we interact with daily have military side ventures. As a random thought experiment, the sega genesis has a motorola SoC. Should people call it a box that supports war because motorola makes communications equipment for defense applications?
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>>12737460
The people going against the M64 and M64 alone will claim that is "whataboutism" every chance they get as if they just learned that word and that they can't avoid some of those products (Like both Intel and AMD's CPUs in a PC) so I guess that's perfectly fine them to compromise their morals in that situation, but don't you dare get an M64!

Really, the argument about it being associated with weapons is a bullshit cop-out anyway, the real reason is because they disagree with the CEO's politics, but are not willing to admit it so they try to act like it's the weapons that are the problem because they know bringing up his politics would get a lot more pushback. And again, for the record, I am heavily against his political views, but I separate the art from the artist, and considering that even a million people refusing to buy modretro products would have about as much impact as a gnat's fart in a hurricane on his bottom line, I am going to choose to support the product that is actively trying to be super consumer-friendly and open source everything and supply replacement parts over a pointless crusade that will go nowhere and promote anti-consumer products.
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>>12737460
one is buying a chip from a telecommunications company making telecommunication equipment
the other is a product sold directly from a company owned by a hawkish vocal pedophile supporter who makes drones in the hopes it will kill people
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sorry but even reggie supports it:

https://x.com/Reggie/status/2082077194596049365
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>>12737517
He probably didn't know it funds killer drones
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>>12737517
>all the tendies getting mad at him for supporting an aftermarket fpga nintendo console
>all the trannies getting mad at him for saying anything positive about the thing
kek this will never not be funny
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>>12737827
It also pisses off the Analogue fanboys who are like the apple fans of gaming
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>>12737818
Reggie IS a killer drone.
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>>12737818
Aren't these drones among the ones being used to defend Ukraine from Russia? Why would either side of the political spectrum in the US be against that? "Russia can go get fucked" is one of the few things pretty much both sides agree on.
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>>12737937
It is funny a lot of the complaints about Modretro come from people with a Ukraine flag in their name on twitter
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>>12736873
I received an email from support today that claimed “we’re aware of no rumble and phantom inputs, it will be fixed in an upcoming update”
Who knows when that update will be, but that’s what I got
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>>12738939
They do have a roadmap for the first few months but a lot of this shit needs to be fixed / implemented sooner than later. I was playing Wave Race 64 Shindou Edition and after around 40 mins of gameplay the rumble just stopped functioning. But I've passed along all my feedback
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>>12731430
Real n64 are way more than 50 bucks now. More like 150-200. Not saying it justifies a 500 dollar fpga device at all, but retro tendie hardware is fucking retardedly priced these days.
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>>12739478
>Real n64 are way more than 50 bucks now
eBay says otherwise.
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>VPW2 Freem Edition: The Console
Is there any other reason to buy this?
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>>12739478
But it is 200 bucks?
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>>12739516
what does that even mean
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>>12739478
in the grand scheme of things the n64 is still sensibly priced. Its sales numbers were not stellar and there are a ton of cult games people talk about forever and theres still not really a shortage of old units
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>>12739504
A 64 by itself is 40-50 bucks. Add an expansion pack and that’s 50 minimum. OEM controllers usually go for around 35-50 dollars depending on condition. So if you want an oem controller and the expansion pak you’re looking at around 130-150.
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They must be getting nervous at all the nastygrams they've been receiving.
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>paying for an emulator
no thanks
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>>12740667
Either higher demand than expected, or the one bozo at the warehouse is taking too many lunchbreaks
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>>12740683
paying for emulators is /vr/ btw
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Getting late in the day, guess we’re not getting an update this week…
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How do you make the controller work on PC? I set it up via bluetooth and even connected it via USB and it still doesn't work. I go into P64 or other emulators and it's not being recognized
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>>12717852
Is there any reason to buy these? They're like 4x the price of an authentic n64
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>>12740848
Shut up, [Insert T-Slur Here], Bleem wasn't even that good, neither was Connectix.

This was.
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>>12739478
Yeah is just the mod or some shit stain just brainfarting cause he was too unimaginative and lazy to corroborate his claims years after the last time he checked.
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>>12739541
It means that the N64 has no worthwhile games except for the greatest wrestling game of all time.
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mullet man's cloneslop can't even pass the vine swing LO
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>>12741568
Can the Mister?
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>>12741479
and you can't upgrade the ram!
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>>12740115
Those recreation consoles don't include OEM controllers either
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I have the original, so no.
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I don't give a shit about any of these things unless I can swap the guts into any actual N64 shell and play, as an ausfag the only thing I care about is whether or not it's region free
Fuck HDMI
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Also to all the fags glazing the guy who made it because him being an Israeli Zio shill arms dealer to own the lefties, consider that it has wifi capabilities
are you willing to trust him to not backdoor your network to fuck you in the ass harder than your pedophile government does on a daily basis?
You'd all commit Ronnie McNutt on stream if you thought it owned the lefties
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>>12742495
mental illness
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>>12742495
I don't have to worry about that, because I do not engage in activities antithetical to the United States
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>>12742495
Theres something really mindbroken with these people now
I don’t think they can function in normal society anymore
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>>12742761
normal antisemitic society?
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>>12717852
imagine paying for this instead of a mister.
duibog
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>>12742854
I do wish it was just a mister like SuperStation One
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>>12742495
1. I am not glazing the guy, I am glazing the product. I actually don't like the guy but I like the ideology behind the product being open source, highly reparable, and clearly consumer-focused unlike Analogue's anti-consumer FOMO and closed approach

2. Yes, I trust a product that is going to be off 99% of the time and due to it's design can't really run in a standby mode in the background to spy on you anyway. I sure as fuck would trust it a lot more than a smartphone or Windows, heard about how Microsoft tracked a guy across VPNs and multiple countries because of the spyware built into their OS?

3. It's got no camera, no microphone, no web browser (who would even browse the web on it), nothing, what would it even spy on? Your N64 play habits?

4. It's open source, anyone can see if there is anything shady in the code. And you can sure as fuck bet that people are going to pour though that code considering the controversy with the creator.
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I see someone is having a meltdown, probably an Anal-log fanboi.
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So from what I gather these systems are basically just glorified Misters in a nicer shell? Like, you can run whatever console you want off this thing, and carts aren't even mandatory?
I am tempted to get one, if only because I can't be fucked soldering things, but it feels like there's a new one of these announced every month. I'm kinda leaning toward Superstation One.
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>>12743260
No. But maybe eventually.
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W all these comments… is this real? Or is this whole fight ai generated? Because yall are console warring over who has the better 1996’s n64 recreation. I just came back to ask anyone who has all 3 at their disposal if you’ve tested them and what are your thoughts?

For me I wouldn’t do this w any other system but the 64 has a special kind of nostalgia for me and even tho the library is small I love so many games on it and currently play them when I can and I never really stopped since I got mine way back when. So for me, I’m buying both because I like the open source of M64 and I like the design of the A3D. I just think it’s cool af that we’re getting these and what this means for other potential console clones or whatever w extra features like the ability to keep steady frames on stuff like Perfect Dark. This could lead to other revivals if they are successful enough. I just think these projects are cool because we are getting legit releases for a 1990s console long ded. How is that not cool for /vr? Fresh content for retro consoles ain’t a bad thing imo.
TL;DR of those who have all 3 (og, A3D, M64) which do you like better this far in and why?
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>>12741479
FPGA is more accurate than original hardware so the only way for you to get the "authentic" authentic n64 experience is to order yours today.
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>>12743275
fixing some hardware bugs would be cool, might technically break compatibility in subtle ways i.e. a game is coding around the bug, but there's ways around that
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>>12717852
i thought you guys liked crts
why are buying this thing just so you can play n64 games on a modern television?

you guys sicken me

>"man, you can't retro game without a crt"
>buys a 200+ dollar console just so he can play n64 games on his modern television
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>>12717852
crts must be overrated if people are buying this crap
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>>12743275
I feel like retro enthusiasts take
>authenticity
Too far.
Or maybe it's just authenticity becoming a marketing buzzword that grinds my gears.
I'm not too sure which it is. I only know that I played my old games on a shitty handheld tv as a kid and it in no way diminished the experience.
I don't understand how people spend thousands in the pursuit of an authentic experience.
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>>12743373
Most people don't own a CRT. If I want to show a game to my friend or my sister while visiting I need something that connects to HDMI.
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>>12743260
>So from what I gather these systems are basically just glorified Misters in a nicer shell?
Depends what system you're talking about.

The SuperStation One or Multisysytem2? Yes, they are literally a MiSTer in a nicer shell, and with some ports built-in. They run the same MiSTer OS and cores.

If you mean the Analogue3D or the M64 shown in OP's picture, then no. They are a FPGA implementation of an N64 but use completely different FPGAs and OS backend, the N64 core in the M64 is a port of the N64 core from the MiSTer by the same dev but it's not just literally loading MiSTer_N64.rbf in a different device, it uses a completely different FPGA design as well as it's own OS backend and had to be ported to it. You can't just load MiSTer cores on it, they would need to be ported, and not all would be able to since the hardware is very different.

>>12743328
These devices (and even many times software emulators) have options to break some of the limits of the original console at times, like overclocking components, rendering at higher resolutions, removing sprite limits, etc but as you said depending on the game it can break it, which is why they are optional and usually disabled by default.
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>>12743365
I missed the bus during the period where people were leaving their CRTs with the trash or at goodwill. Its harder to find spontaneously and I dont feel like hunting for one now.
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>>12743275
Kek I know you're baiting but I think this is technically true in some regards with the snes as they have sped up over time.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwuBFGYUEi4
>hello everybody and welcome back to videogaaaamejsfajdnljdflkdafklakjfahcladdalf
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>>12741534
thanks anon gonna try it out
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>>12742495
I'm not even connecting it to wifi. Gonna get my updates from their website. It's an N64; it doesn't need online.
>>12743365
I have a CRT, but I have nowhere to put it in my room. Plus I didn't buy the AV Adapter so I couldn't use it with my CRT even if I wanted to.
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Finally got a tracking number after almost 2 weeks, oh boy.
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>>12741474
Bump
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Just got mine but it's overheating.
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>>12744146
They all overheat.
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>>12743606
>le fake meme
Yes it is true that the overall clock could change if the crystal degrades but it costs 1 dollar to replace
And unless you're autistic the timing difference will be too small to notice so who fucking cares
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>>12744146
Do you have overclock on? Can't say I've noticed any abnormal temperature yet using the included power brick
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>>12744146
Sure it is buddy
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>>12744475
>outer front plastic part most far away from the the thing actually getting hot
wew lad sure proved him wrong
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>>12744146
this is a good thing
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>>12744427
It's a forced meme some anti-fpga autist keeps attempting
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>>12735462
>holy fuck im projecting
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>>12744502
>getting hot
>110f
wew lad
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>>12717852
is that a worse looking version of the analogue 3d? why would anyone buy that
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>>12744623
Because
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>>12744279
It's specifically a large enough difference to notice because thats how people noticed.
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>>12744623
it feels more fun
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>>12744623
Better controller and wifi.
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>>12744974
>wifi
Why would an N64 need wifi?
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>>12744984
Its not an n64.
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>>12744993
So what is it?
>inb4 white hole
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>>12744997
An m64. Are you ok?
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>>12745007
So why does it need Wifi?
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>>12745012
Why not?
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>>12745016
>Too scared to answer
Ok. You just gonna keep spamming the thread summerfag?
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>>12745023
lol look it up faggot
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>>12745049
Bye-bye summerfag. Come back when you're 18
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>>12745012

Single click over the air updates. I'd argue that you could do this without wifi and just manually put the new firmware on a USB stick, but people are lazy and I understand that.
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>>12745057
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>>12745061
That's fair. Thanks for answering.

>>12745065
>spam
ok?
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>>12744623
who the fuck cares about the """"look"""" you seething tranny?
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>>12745061
Why does it need updates?
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>>12745076

To add features, address bugs or compatibility issues. Same reason as Analog 64, they added horizontal upscaling and fixed compatibility with multicarts since released.
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>>12744623
I think the analogue stuff looks soulless.

>>12744974
I have a controller on order, can't wait to try it out
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>>12745076
Why are you pretending not to understand why it needs updates? Why are you being so fucking reddit? Just say you don't like it and its for goys and be done with it.
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>>12744623
I'm fine with my MiSTer but IMO the M64 is better for consumers because of it being open sourced and reparable, they also did a much better job with the controller. Anyone who tries to turn the N64 controller into a modern gamepad design clearly never played a N64 back in the day, the "trident" was designed that way for a reason, nowadays though we have idiots going "Lol three hands" who have never even touched a real N64 controller. Granted, I am pretty sure you can use the M64 controller on the Analogue 3D.
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>>12745548
>Granted, I am pretty sure you can use the M64 controller on the Analogue 3D.
People have tried that, the controller doesn't work with it, and I doubt that anal-log is gonna update their system to support a competitor's gamepad.
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anduril
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>>12744965
>It's specifically a large enough difference to notice because thats how people noticed.
People only "noticed" because ignorant poorbabies like you were manipulated into ranting about about a nothingburger by other ignorant poorbabies.
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Well the week passed and they didn't do a firmware update. 2 more weeks I guess
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>>12745149
Important thing to not with the controller they haven't implemented its low latency bluetooth SCI or whatever the fuck, so wired is the way to go for now though I assume you're gonna use it that way anyway if on OG n64
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>>12744965
>It's specifically a large enough difference to notice because thats how people noticed.
It was noticed because of a benchmark utility that's capable of registering 100Hz differences in the clock rate. However this clock rate is the SPU700. It's the music and sound that run ever so slightly too fast, NOT the console so no, nobody would ever have noticed since gameplay is timed to the vertical refresh, not the sound hardware.
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>>12746659
What?
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>>12745149
I hope the controller is good. I'm a bit nervous they will fuck up things like the d-pad, but at the same time it can't be worse than original hardware at that point.
Somehow the pro controller is still cheaper than buying a steel stick replacement for the original
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>>12747504
For all the games on n64 that use the d pad right
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>>12747507
I wanna get around to playing kirby and mischief makers once and for all ok
the d-pad on both my controllers I got from my original n64 are not really usable, its like the membranes have worn out over time
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>>12747528
How the fuck do n64 membranes wear out?
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>>12747531
I dont know, for me its the right direction that feels messed up and shitty to press
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>>12747157
IIRC some games do tie some of their logic to the sound. I recall reading that the doors in Super Metroid do that.
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>>12747504
The dpad isn't my favorite but it's alright
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>>12747406
>an ignorant poorbabay says what?
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>>12745590
Wish I'd bought the Anduril Chromatic, F
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>>12747827
I don't know what to tell you. I own a super nintendo and I noticed that it runs faster.
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>>12748179
>I don't know what to tell you.
>tells what the voices in it's head tell it to
brainworms. not even once
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>>12748497
What?
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>>12747141
I’m hoping for this Friday
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>>12748702
(Alfred) chicken butt.
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>>12748757
Oh ok now I get you.
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>>12748702
A brainworm infested underage schizo says what?
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>>12748032
from what I've seen the Anduril version is crap and painted elements like the text fade away on it
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out for delivery, woo
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>>12749194
I'm probably thousands of units behind yours in the queue. not that I'm in a rush since it sounds like this firmware is a glorified paid beta test
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>>12742447
True, I’m just saying the total price for an OEM n64 w x pak is going to net you closer to 150. The thing w that tho is it’s gonna look terrible on a modern tv so ur going to need CRT, while one of these fpgas has advanced features and will work w modern TVs so you don’t have to hunt a CRT if u don’t have one.

For a normie who just uses consoles to plug and play and doesn’t know about emulation or want to mess w anything like that, this product makes sense for them imo. It doesn’t make sense for a majority of users here and I’d include myself except the 64 is my all time favorite system so any fpga coming out for it I’ll buy to try. Only system
I’d do this for tho.
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>>12717852
Nah, I have a real N64, with a Kaico HDMI converter and an mClassic. I'm good.
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>>12750262
It most likely wasn’t ready for full release, but deadlines exist for a reason
>>12750293
>I'm good.
>mClassic
LMAO, how heavy is your prescription for your glasses
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>>12750382
t. Someone who doesn't own an mClassic

Stay salty poorfag
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>>12750262
This firmware does seem under-cooked. I can't get overclocking to work at all on mine, just gives me an error each time (firmware is updated). Beyond that, the build quality is wild and I'm pretty stoked nonetheless.
>>12750416
the setup you described is the cheapest, normalfag, turnkey solution on the market
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Frank Cifaldi's post convinced me not to.
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>>12750416
I literally did buy an mClassic
Biggest fucking scam on the upscaling market
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>>12718121
The Sega Model 3 board was manufactured by lockheed martin
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>>12750435
A basedlennial libtard doesn't like Palmer Luckey? Must be a day ending in Y
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I only care about the controller for my RGB modded console, wish more people were talking about it before I drop 90 plus tip.
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>>12750748
Why would you care about that?
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>>12750435
This isnt funny



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