DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>12720419Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etcGameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source portsAll other 90s FPS welcome~ Let's post like gentlemen ~FAQ/GENERAL GUIDEhttps://rentry.org/vrbinSO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXzSame thing, in video format:https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXAhttps://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQhttps://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0== GAMES/RESOURCES ==DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8QUAKE Trilogy FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhUHALF-LIFE (GoldSrc) Anthology:https://mega.nz/file/GRUCGbAY#RhOiqxnf7UPOiXcJNbRh-prKIEVRhjJaEpAkt34lyZg4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games:https://mega.nz/folder/etMkxKwK#947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqAAssorted /vr/ shooters, mods, etc:https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Qhttps://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUAMIDI COLLECTIONShttps://files.catbox.moe/2hul76.ziphttps://mega.nz/file/dWQ3SThI#qYcpa4eGQj6ElyRZgjGqszR59dh4Fq9D3qXYee54kZQhttps://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities-midi-collection-2009https://archive.org/details/midiru-archive-2022-02-25.7z== INFO/LINKS ==OFFICIAL DOOM WIKIhttps://doomwiki.org/WHERE TO FIND WADSVanilla/Boom: https://doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/ZDoom: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19/idgames: https://doomworld.com/idgames/MODDING RESOURCEShttps://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37https://realm667.com/== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==THREAD ARCHIVEShttps://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom+thread"/type/op/OUR WADS/MODShttps://rentry.org/vrdepotMAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLYhttps://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrBIMAGE/WAD DATABASEhttps://vrdoom.booru.org/https://wadsup.xyz/MULTIPLAYER SERVERSUS West: https://clovr.xyz/CA/US Midwest: https://macgu.fun/
=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===666 Minutes of /vr/Game : Doom 2 | Format : Vanilla (Limit-removing)Resources & Rules : >>12687710Repo: https://gitgud.io/GreenAnon/btsx-project/An Eternity of /vr/Game : Doom 2 | Format : Eternityhttps://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=22025=== NEWS ===[08-03] PPSS3: Down Unda! is outhttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/158985[07-30] Reelism 2 TURBO: Expansion Pack 1 trailerhttps://youtu.be/_m_lXJj0ocI[07-29] UZDoom v5.0.0 RC1 is now availablehttps://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=81618[07-27] Malevolence re-released with MAP06 switch fixedhttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/3044962[07-25] Helion v1.0.0.0 releasedhttps://github.com/Helion-Engine/Helion/releases/latest[07-23] Tremor, 32-map classic Quake campaign, released after 6yr developmenthttps://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/tremor.614/[07-21] Bring Your Own Bottle jam is outhttps://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/bring-your-own-bottle.613/[07-19] Original Hexen development files recoveredhttps://github.com/svkaiser/hexen-development-files[07-17] Mega Man ZDoom is outhttps://mengo329.itch.io/mmzdoom[07-14] Custom 1999 Quake 2 unit 'Deaf, Dumb, and Blind' has been remastered for Q2Rhttps://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/deaf-dumb-and-blind-remastered[07-13] Catbox now purges idle files 2 years or olderhttps://blog.catbox.moe/post/821058172332769280/[07-08] La Tailor Girl updatedhttps://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1267215[07-02] PERSIAN.WAD by Ribbikshttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/159055[07-01] Slipgate Rangers, co-op RPG mod for Quakehttps://www.moddb.com/mods/slipgate-rangers[06-30] Cherry Doom v2.1.0 releasedhttps://github.com/xemonix0/Cherry-Doom/releases/latest=== PREVIOUS ===https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST
Try as I might I just can't get back into Doom.
>>12734774Why not? It's super easy for me. Sounds like a you problem
I declare myself the project lead and head composer of this thread
>>12734774Try some Quake or Duke for a while then. Or maybe some ZDoom gameplay mod.>>12734780Compose me a ditty, then.
>>12734774I have to be in the mood for it, myself. I'm impressed by the guys who can play it every day and never tire, it must be great having that one game you never get sick of.
i forgot Quake doesn't have a use button. I was looking for it in the options for a good 10 minutes
>>12734801I don't ever get fully sick of Doom, but sometimes I'm drawn to play something else. Be it Dracula X, or Fallout New Vegas. Or Tetris, fucking love Tetris.Anyway, the Axe is THE most important weapon in Dracula X.
>>12734801i for one can cycle through 1,2,Final, 64 and nerve at the same time indefinitely. Sometimes Quake
>>12734801For me, Quake is that game I never get tired of and I've recently worked out why. It's the maps, or potential for them.Doom has the best combat and even as someone who prefers Quake I can't deny it. The guns and monsters in Doom are so much better.But the levels in Doom can never be as good as a well designed Quake map. There's no real verticality, it's all trickery and the limitations mean exploration feels hollow for the most part. Default settings mean the monsters and props are infinitely tall and this also feels shitty although I'm compelled to keep the setting on for authenticity and because it's intended.Basically, I think I like retro FPS games for map exploration more than the actual shooting.
>>12734801I often take breaks from Doom for multiple months, but I always come back sooner or later
>>12734801When I get sick of other games, I return to Doom. By the time that's happened there's usually something good to try. I stepped away from Quake for a whole year and came back to Brutalist Jam III.
>>12734774>Try as I might I just can't get back into Doom.Don’t force it, it’s not going anywhere. I’ve been off and on with it since about 2001 when I found out ZDoom was a thing.Currently playing through Tremor and non-retro games. When I’m done with Tremor, I’m probably going to finish my modded Eviternity run.
>>12734801Ill go months or even a year without playing it. Then Ill think about it like once during work and bam Ill be playing it for another few months
>>12734774Your post made me realise I never fucking finish Doom wads. The last one I ever fully completed was Eviternity and that was years back. Normally I get 15 or so maps in and burn out.
>>12735045Doom 1 episodes is the superior format. 9 levels is enough for me at least
>>12734780Where's my MIDI, anon? You said you were a composer.
>>12735064Doom 2 would have benefited so much from episodes. Add all those cool new monsters, but then slice it up into multiple shorter series of levels, where you start each one fresh.
>>12735117Nearly all my favorite megawads since like, 2016 have all been separated by episodes, thankfully.
>[07-29] UZDoom v5.0.0 RC1 is now availableHoly fuck, that's huge news. Has anyone tried the multiplayer yet?
>>12734780Hey, I also want a MIDI!
>>12735132I have played many which don't and which I love, but it really helps a lot with setting pacing for a full 32 map slammathon.This is why Scythe 2 did death exits for pseudo episodes back in the day.
>>12732984yep, it is. he decided to flaunt his shit on a different site, and when there was pushback he ran to the mods to silence it all. such a good idea, but hes decided to ruin it by being so arrogant.he even directly said "name me one good quake mod with good ui".>>12733120i agree, and in this case, it isnt hard to make a decent inventory grid. being lazy and uninspired is just a choice.reposted as i didnt now the other thread was dead
>>12735238Even the Serious Sam games do something similar: You’ll hit a ‘halfway’ point and your inventory gets reset, pitting you against trickier encounters compared to the start of the game.
>>12734839>Default settings mean the monsters and props are infinitely tall and this also feels shitty although I'm compelled to keep the setting on for authenticity and because it's intendedThis is so stupid, it's not because it was ''intended'', it was because of tech limitations. Playing without free aim for ''purity'' reasons is just idiotic
>>12735369>Playing without free aim for ''purity'' reasons is just idioticI do it for fun, too, not just because I want to experience a retro game as it was initially played.
>>12734774Try Marathon.>>12735045Same. At, least, as far as megawads go. Something that keeps itself to like 10 maps or whatever? That's fine.
>>12734774Have you tried mods? Vanilla Doom gets old for me fast, but shoving some entertaining mods in serious ups the enjoyment factor for me.
>>12733929I recall some old mods could inflate your config file to hell. There was another exploit using log files to overwrite other files in your computer but I don't know if any wads actually used it.
>>12735369Vast majority of Vanilla/Boom/MBF/MBF21 content is all designed around that, so free aiming and moving over monsters will still be putting you past intended parameters.Now, whether or not that's a bad thing or not really depends on your circumstances and what you want out of Doom, I've been playing with gameplay mods and shit since the 90s, so I'm no stranger to "breaking the rules," but I'm also very accustomed to the stock limitations and enjoy the core gameplay and physics for what they are.I'm not one of those people who puts LE DEVELOPER INTENTIONS on a pedestal, nor do I think you would need to play every mapset ever stock, before playing it with a mod, but I still play a lot of stuff like it was published, and enjoy it that way.
>>12735117>>12735132>>12735238You should really be pistol starting anyway. It's how Doom is meant to be played.
>>12735653>It's how Doom is meant to be played.The manuals disagree with that statement.
>>12735423desu as long as people don't act like King Shit Of Fuckmountain about it, I don't mind if people do it for purist reasons.Bragging rights are reserved for actually being good, ergo you beat some tough level at, or faster, than the record time (and you've got the demo to prove that).I actually really hope that MBF2y has a separate complevel setting for allowing free aiming, jumping, and moving over and under monsters, because you could make a lot of new(ish) gameplay on that point, and it'd be cool to see the best players record sick demos with that.
>>12735653Nigger, the manual tells me to save often so that I don't have to lose my shit, and there's a save and load right on the main menu.I'll do pistol start or continuous at my own fucking discretion, thank you very much.
i like retaining my items it feels like I'm on an adventure as gay as that sounds
>>12735653>Ok, so I know that we let you save and load, and the manual tells you to, and that you always automatically carry over your stuff between levels, and that the only way actually around this at all is when custom levels make death exits in ways we never ever did them in-game ourselves, BUT, you aren't supposed to carry over inventory between levels
I love turning off infinitely tall monsters and crowdsurfing through slaughtermaps I will not stop doing it
>>12735707Slaughtermaps could outright incorporate that into its intended gameplay design if there was a complevel for it, and it'd rule.
>>12735662>Bragging rights are reserved for actually being good, ergo you beat some tough level at, or faster, than the record time (and you've got the demo to prove that).IMO there are plenty of levels whose beating at all is an achievement, regardless of time.
>>12735675Player psychology is a very funny thing. Though the insistence on pistol starting is a funny one, since all maps were (in theory) made to be possible to beat it when pistol starting, some people have decided that's obviously how it's supposed to be played.This misses both the shit you pointed out and the fact that if levels weren't possible to beat when pistol starting, then the entire mechanic of starting with only a pistol would be a waste of everyone's fucking time.
>>12735846There must be a standard for both initial and victory conditions, otherwise it is impossible to discuss and compare the difficulty of different maps. The pistol start is merely the most natural for the former, and 100% completion is the most natural for the latter.
>>12734774Oh, we are doing Doom therapy session in this thread.I'm tired of revenants. It started with BTSX a year ago and the frustration never ended. They are unironically destroying any fun I get playing any serious wad. I love their goofy design and animation as the next guy, but it's absolutely obvious that for the last ~400 hours of playtime the revenant is the only monster that irritates me almost in every wad except for classics.
>>12735858>There must be a standard for both initial and victory conditionsThe natural standards are "Whatever the map/wad's default setting is (or whatever the readme says)" and "Getting through the level."Generally, you shouldn't treat the standard behavior of the game itself as an anomaly that should be disregarded.
>>12735878>Quake was the dominant word last threadHell yeah
For me its the pain elemental. Thinking about it heightens me cause i just have to kill the dopey fuckers before they spawn a screen full of flying skulls whatever they are called
>>12735869Okay so one guy plays a map and says it's hard. Another plays the same map but brings a soulsphere and 600 plasma cells through intermission, and says it's easy. They proceed to talk past each other and have a stupid, pointless argument.There must be a standard which everyone agrees on. It doesn't have to be pistol start, but it's easiest and most natural if it is, because it's built into the game engine.
>>12735884>>Quake was the dominant word last threadAnd one day, it will be overwhelmingly positive praise.>>12735902>There must be a standard which everyone agrees on.There won't be. Just ignore the stupid, pointless arguments.
>>12735907>And one day, it will be overwhelmingly positive praise.I overwhelmingly love Quake! More than Doom, but both constantly change places for me.
>>12735907>There won't be.There has to be, otherwise all playtesting reports you receive as a mapper are useless.
>>12735914Individual reports are 95% useless outside of bug reports anyway because unless you're watching demos or whatever you can never really tell if feedback is coming from a place of massive skill issues, luck, or any of the other factors that should be kept in mind. You just sort of have to go with the trend of reports rather than individual ones.
>>12735774This would require mapper to account for damage that demons do to the player while he walks on them. The person who could do it and turn it into a reliable system woud be an archwizard of black magic.
>>12735923I'll bear that in mind next time I feel inspired to write up my impression of playing a map...
>>> CLASSIC HERETIC CHALLENGE <<<Record a SM Max demo of Emerbath.wad E3M1 "Emerald Bathhouse" by Russell MorbidBruteReply to this post with a demo & your time.Wad download & records:https://dsdarchive.com/wads/emerbathExample demo in 6:41https://files.catbox.moe/x7gavy.lmpPrevious challenge winner (by default): >>12712994This is a vanilla compatible level so you can record demos for it using chocolate/crispy heretic, dsdadoom and derivatives.I just felt like playing Heretic more than Doom today. This individual level has 9 whole demos on the dsdarchive, so I figured it would be worth trying. It's more difficult than the previous Heretic challenge due to low ammo, but this is mitigated considerably once you know where the secrets are, including 2 unmarked morph ova behind some conspicuous statue textures. Watch the demo back if you can't find them. This time should be pretty easy to beat since I forgot a couple enemies near the start. >>12734752
Found one of my high school report cards where my science teacher mentioned doom. He was really fucking based, that teacher.>"Your grades aren't living up to your potential. Spend more time studying and less time playing Doom."
RE: that conversation last thread about getting bored of Doom. I've spent a lot of time going through that in terms of up and down, and what I found that I wanted from Doom was more enemies and a solid suite of weapons and movement capabilities. There is just something about regular Doom I'm not a fan of, and I reckon it's from the fact that HL1 was my first FPS and not Doom. There's a certain sense of speed and feedback from enemies that vanilla Doom doesn't have. I've fucked with Dakka, I've fucked with Combined Arms, GMOTA, obscure weapon mods every corner possible, and for me, Hellrider Vengeful is what finally did it for me. It goes without saying, this is not vanilla Doom in the slightest. But in terms of>I want to check out a mappack from 20 years ago and load it up with custom monsters like Colorful Hell or Mega Monster Mix because I love looking at worlds people have created and killing monsters while looking at worlds people have createdthen I've got my Doom for life. John Romero said once some time ago that part of Doom's formula is that the player is faster than the monsters, granting a sense of empowerment and control. What HV does for me is creates a nigh permanent state of flow I get to zigzag around killing demons swiftly, but now and then I get stopped by a powerful monster that, if I was too careless, will indeed kill me. Flow, challenge, flow, challenge, infinitely. It's a great time. Doom has "resets", even without pistol start, where the map has to get going again to get into flow. I dislike that downtime greatly. It's also part of why I really dislike Serious Sam: TSE, where Sam's inventory gets reset each chapter change despite TFE not doing this.>>12735878>>12735884Bbbbbbbbbbased. Quake I don't need much. The atmosphere is king. Never could get bored of Quake.
>>12734839>It's the maps, or potential for them.Yes, bingo. I also think it's really cool that the custom content over the last 30 years has never ventured far from the dour and dank atmosphere, whereas Doom can be absolutely anything. It's like a more serious Serious Sam, to boot: All the custom content, the serious ones at least, are about fighting another faction of Quake, the ever looming threat just like Mental, the Ranger doomed to keep fighting them forever because the next slipgate takes him to another stronghold of Quake. Wish I had the time to go through it all.
>>12735989There was also a time where I was playing HL OP4 with a controller on my shitty school laptop while waiting for another teacher's period, and he walked through the corridor i was sitting in, and he stopped and looked at me and said something like "I should give you detention for what you have in your hands." And he paused and went "You're playing a PC fps on a controller? Come on, man..." and before leaving he added "I approve your choice of game though." God i should try to find him, see what he's up to nowadays.
>>12735998And everybody clapped.
>>12736001I clapped. I care.
>>12735907I love Quake though. Not AS much as Doom, but as much as Duke, which is to say, still a LOT.
>>12735902There really doesn't need to be a standard, because you can straight up do it both ways. I do.
>>12735902The standards are>Pistol start>UV maxetc.
>>12735979Dude, you keep moving and the Pinkies literally cannot chomp fast enough to catch you, you leap down on top of a Caco and then jump to the next ledge before he can gore you. I've done this shit.
>>12734801I get burn out from Doom regularly, but it isn't because of the game itself. It's because of the maps - most of them are too hard for my casual ass. People make maps for over 30 years and average room temperature for difficulty keep rising. Even if we don't take slaughter maps into account, average map pack of today is much harder than original iwads. They are like on the same level with Plutonia or a bit higher.I greatly enjoyed Doom 1, Doom 2 too but to a lesser extent because of its confusing maps, but after that point it is a roulette for me of getting either good challenging maps or tortures I can't handle and the latter happens more often. I completed both D1 and D2 on ultra violence, but I'm still weak and too casual to play what mappers currently have to offer even on hurt me plenty. Maybe I just don't think enough and never learn.
>>12734763Oh shit UZDoom has multiplayer? As in easily set up, can play any GZDoom compatible mod together with players ala Zandronum multiplayer? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sry-g1ioPq4
play Duke
>>12736028>I completed both D1 and D2 on ultra violence, but I'm still weak and too casual to play what mappers currently have to offer even on hurt me plentyBro... go easy on yourself. If you REALLY beat D1 and D2 on Ultra Violence you need to seriously give yourself a pat on the back because that shit is not by anyone's means easy. I tried to do D1 earlier this year and gave up on E1M7, just couldn't do it without cheats or intense savescumming.
>>12736028Just play the higher quality 90s early 2000s WADs like MM2. Or play the first few levels of WADs, something like SoD has a few cozy early levels.
>>12736028>most of them are too hard for my casual ass.I also have this problem. I like Doom but I play it too sporadically to get good enough for most of these mapsets.
>>12735991>Never could get bored of Quake.I might if it was strictly vanilla. It's been great seeing a variety of different base mods adding all sorts of needed variety.>>12735996>I also think it's really cool that the custom content over the last 30 years has never ventured far from the dour and dank atmosphere, whereas Doom can be absolutely anything.A big reason I liked Mjolnir so much is the tone it emphasized: It still had some 'dark' aesthetics, but the mood was much different - even occasionally uplifting - compared to standard Reznor-tracked Quake vibes. AD Tears is another stand-out example even if it's only one map.
>>12736050>I might if it was strictly vanillaAh that's fair. I cannot lie, I usually play vanilla Quake maps with a modifier; Drake, AD Chaos Mode, Copper Nightmare, Zerstorer because of that sweet shotgun, etc.
>>12736031Very cool. I may host later with some stuff that wouldn't work on Zandronum to stress test. I'm thinking the latest Corruption Cards, latest GMOTA, one more thing perhaps.
>>12736064When I say latest CC + GMOTA, I know Kegan makes a Zandronum compatible version of his mods, but the latest CC does not work on Zandronum to my recollection.
>>12736020There needs to be a standard way to play a map _in order to be able to discuss it online_. Play how you want if you're just playing at home.>>12736024That's what I'm saying, why are you replying to me with this?
>>12736028Yeah supposedly you're meant to play modern stuff on Hey Not Too Rough but I find it's always broken or at least improperly tested with unreachable monsters or softlocks from missing teleporter destinations when I do that.
>>12735984>Russell Mistyped this, the mapper's name is (probably) not Russell.
>>12736054That's me right now with Tremor, currently playing it through Reliquary which is a Copper-based mod. I like the weapon buffs coupled with the way its nightmare feels.>>12736070>There needs to be a standard way to play a map in order to be able to discuss it online.I think a wide variety of ways to approach a map is what makes the online discussion interesting. Most Quake and Doom levels are balanced around multiple skill settings and ways to play them, and the "standard" varies by map author.Partially related: I was testing stuff on vanilla Quake and found out this whole upper balcony is gone on skill 0 and 1.
>>12736064Been doing some solo testing. Two ways to do this, I think the second way is best for the moment:1. ZDL + UZDoom, which can be cumbersome to say the least. Host + client matches mod order, ZDL points to UZDoom, ZDL needs >-showlauncheras a parameter for the sourceport menu, and boom, you're in.2. Command line parametersThis will get annoying when you do longer mod lists. Need to move every host mod into the same directory as uzdoom.exe, then you type out the load order in the Additional Parameters bar, copy and paste that to clients, and you're in. UZDoom in the long run will absolutely need a Doomseeker style launcher because people are lazy and will not be inclined to do either of these things when Doomseeker exists. But for Zdoom exclusive mods, say, playing some Babel multiplayer deathmatch or co-op, Project Brutality, GMOTA + the latest Corruption Cards, what have you, UZDoom is the way to go. I never played GZDoom multiplayer, so this doesn't strike me as something GZDoom wasn't capable of. Was GZDoom multiplayer unstable or something? I've seen webms of people playing HD together, so it wasn't impossible to play GZDoom multiplayer together.
>>12736142>ZDL needs>-showlauncherdon't forget the -pride parameter sister
It's time for Wednesday Night Wipeout!Come play some SRB2Kart!How to join (The short and easy way):Download the All-in-one repack: https://mega.nz/file/3dUUWTbR#Ir3l9U2JAKSdT84wQwbKsgQ1Go39xdCCznpF2ChCgmcExtract it to its own folder (NOT the desktop or program files)Run "SRB2Kart-Neptune (Connect to vrkart).bat" and wait for any missing files to download in-gameDO NOT run "srb2kart.exe" and expect to be able to join the server.If you don't have a 64-bit machine/OS for whatever reason: Copy the contents of the 32-bit folder into the main folderHow to join (The longer and harder way):Download version 1.6 of the game: https://github.com/STJr/Kart-Public/releases/download/v1.6/srb2kart-v16-Installer.exeGet the custom client we use: https://codeberg.org/NepDisk/srb2k-neptune/releases/tag/Neptune2.5.1Get the mods either automatically in-game or at: https://macgu.fun/repo/srb2kart/Connect to macgu.fun (either use connect in console or "specify ipv4 address" under Multiplayer)>I HAVE TO BITCH FAST AND TEXT CHAT TOO SLOWWe also have a Mumble server!Address: 51.161.34.159Port: defaultPassword: endoom>I heard this game supports proximity chat, are we using that?No.Pro tips: https://pastebin.com/YV6biqxq(This is out of date and written for a different server, but it still has a lot of useful information.)
>>12736185ZDL is gay now?
>>12735981Don't punish the anons who post work here due to the words of one autistic retard. Only the most self-centered of motherfucker mappers will say that they don't value feedback. Even if it's just "this map is fun" or "this map is confusing."However, speaking as that autistic retard, the point with that was more an answer to that specific person's nonsense where they were saying that it's impossible to get good feedback if you don't decide pistol starting is the defacto way or whatever the fuck. All feedback is a useful data point, but most people do bake in a lot of assumptions or otherwise don't say how they approach things to make it more helpful. As such, most of the time, mappers/modders have to sort of wing it and go off the pictures the sum of feedback paints rather than addressing individual write ups. Good write ups that do stuff like explain how they go through a map and all that stuff are a treasure that seemingly not even 1% of players bother with.
666 map so farOne hour in. I'm not used to these textures.
Anybody wondering what the Nightdive remaster for tomorrow's Quakecon will be? Hoping it's Hexen + Heretic 2, but RTCW would be nice as well.
I hate nu-nightdivet. bought NAM when Nightdive bought the publishing rights
>>12736285Wolf 2009, there's been leaks
>>12736304Bummer...:(
>>12736192Nah, just that Anon.
>>12736304I wonder if Nightdive will do any big changes like with Heretic and Hexen. Maybe make the game more linear, eschewing the open world stuff? Will we get an expansion like the other remasters? Very curious choice, but Wolf 2009 isn't on storefronts while every other one is, so it lines up. Still wanted RTCW though.
>>12736326I just want them to release mod tools so people can make things for it. Raven had a tendency of editing id's formats and standards *just enough* to not be compatible with what was officially released for the engine.
>>12736107that box with the zombies that ambush you before you fight your first shambler in e1m3 isnt there either.
>>12736334Honestly I was thinking if its an Id Tech 4 thing to tackle first it'd be Quake 4, since it's Quakes 30th anniversary this year. That expansion got leaked, people are aching for more Quake, and the remasters for those games were excellently done and recieved; it'd make sense to tackle that one next. But hey, if Wolf 2009 gets the same treatment I'm all for it.
>>12736340>people are aching for more QuakeI mean I want more Quake too. Not Q4 though, not unless they're putting in a shitload of work to make it tolerable.
>>12736352I've been mulling over a potential Quake 3 remaster and I keep thinking "Will anyone actually play this past a month or two"? I know that one is highly regarded but there's no proper campaign, and nowadays arena shooters just aren't all that popular. Quake 4 meanwhile has both, and like you said there is room for improvement (Removing reloads, making the player faster, altering the levels to be less Doom 3).
A bunch of GZ/UZDoom campaigns are gonna need co-operative and deathmatch start added to every map.
>>12736352Even if they speed it up or something to make it play better, I'm still never getting over all the terrible (re-)designs and overall 'Doom 3 but worse' aesthetic. Quake 2 had a lot of cool looking designs that would have looked great with more polygons and modern shaders. Everything in Quake 4 is just uninteresting visual sludge by comparison.
>>12736359>and like you said there is room for improvement A huge load: Gut the turret sections, ditch the "stop right there, marine" moments, improve the enemy behavior...And even then:>>12736369>all the terrible (re-)designs and overall 'Doom 3 but worse' aestheticThis, too. It's very unappealing.
>>12736369Fuck I love the Strogg so much man, one of Id's coolest enemy factions next to Doom 2-era Demons and the RTCW Nazi's (Yes I know that's a Gray Matter Studios game but fuck it, I'm adding them here). We need more nightmare cyborgs in FPS vidya.
>>12736378>Fuck I love the Strogg so much manSame but not your pic, nor most of the Q4 Strogg. This guy is the only one I enjoy looking at.
>>12736385Definitely looks the most like the classic Q2-era Strogg. I'm kinda partial to the Berserker though, having a metal body with skin draped on top like a coat of arms is pretty freaky. I will agree that Quake 4's Strogg are kinda lacking in some areas; too many humanoids in comparison to the wide range of shit you saw in Quake 2.
>>12736378Man they could do so much more with them, and they're already perfectly positioned to do so. For instance: There is no good reason the universe expansive empire of the Combine are wasting time leaving an occupying force made up of those being occupied. If you went up the chain of command all the way to the Advisor level, and you asked what it was thinking, you wouldn't get a good reason.But with Quake, the higher you go, the antagonist can just be batshit crazy and say something like>ALL THINGS CAN BE CONJOINED. ORGANIC, STEEL, AND COMPUTER. JOIN OR DIEand then he laughs:https://youtu.be/w5ygNf67d4w?t=177Quake 4, with the emphasis on gore and a crazy Makron who just loves being evil, makes it so Quake 5 can have so much fun, but not in a tongue-in-cheek way. Just crazy, gorey shit that takes itself seriously like a Paul Veerhoven film.
>>12736186GGs to myself, I guess
>>12736435>>12736186oh man, managed to join just too late
>>12736352>Not Q4 though, not unless they're putting in a shitload of work to make it tolerable.reminds me, wasnt the guy that did the Halo mod for Doom3 also doing it for Quake4 with slightly different weapon selection?
What's your conclusions on the Sandy's recent SOLDoom venture, the ones deeper than the surface "button-mashing monkey sweatshop" facet of it?Would he manage to at least afford a cheeseburger from it? I'm not particularly old, but even so, I have no idea how crypto works. Sounds like fake money out of the thin air, there's got to be something undisclosed beneath this.Supposedly he, or someone else, also intends to make some levels for it. I wonder if it would be possible to nip those straight out of browser in readable WAD format.
>>12736482It uses your gpu for companies and they reward you for it. Like a good scammer, of course Sandy doesn't tell you, how the game uses your gpu, but lures you in with free money. Never would have thought that he would fall this low. As much as I lack the respect for nu-id, at least they haven't used Doom ip this shitty way. What Sandy does to Doom is a sin.
>>12735902Discussing difficulty outside of saveless challenge maxing has been compromised since DSDA-Doom added rewinding anyway. Now every pleb is "beating" hard wads by rewind spamming through fights and claiming they're not that hard. The worse feature in the long history of Doom ports.
>>12736482You can't play Doom, obviously for legal reasons; DoomSOL only plays Freedoom levels.
>>12736482>What's your conclusions on the Sandy's recent SOLDoom ventureIt sucks.
>>12736304I'll take it, if they make it use non-regen health then you've got a good B+ Wolfenstein experience.
>>12735878This one contains some wild queer poem inside:>faggot release>don't bottom>finish gay>need using duke>soon queer>suck mouse lol
>>12736707
Is Quake Mjlonir fully out yet or is it still episode 1?
>>12734774It's like the easiest game for me to jump into. And I wasn't even hardcore into Doom in the 90's. I don't even particularly need to be in an "FPS mood." It's just a very very straightforward game to play.
>>12736728Neither. It's E3 and E4, and they're all you're ever going to get.
>trying to play AD with Ironwail>Changing the interface size increases the text to readable levels>But then also makes the HUD fill a quarter of the screenThere's no separate scaling for UI and HUD?
>>12736823>Quake>textBro, wants to read novels instead of shooting lmao.
I really need UZdoom to show off my gayness
>>12736079i was stuck looking for that switch, thanks
>>12736831I mean, it would be nice not having to pull out a microscope when an objective, hint or rare character dialogue appears on the screen. We can't all be Grug.
>>12736823scr_conscale is textscr_sbarscale is status barscr_menuscale is notifications and menu
>>12736592Still not seeing how this is supposed to bring him a profit bigger than pocket change. Guess dozens of GTX 960s across the SA went on fire this week to afford a scooter for some aspiring entrepreneur, because this is certainly not Sandy's pitch. Maybe he is bored at the old age? I went for his social media and all the interactions were so fake, so that cooled off my expectations of any genuine Doom content... speaking of:I've been playing Eye Juice and it was fairly decent for the first quarter of maps, even awe-inspiring, but then its author seems to have begun hyperfocusing on distinct visual settings and gimmicky set pieces instead of gameplay. I was completely bored by the Half-Life homage. Intentional or not, the Helltrain (Epic) throwback was pretty nice though. It's the only time the wad somewhat gets back "on track" before venturing into killing singular fodder in-between of crossing distances. Some maps are so toothless on enemies, it feels like the wad is raw and unfinished. Maybe I'll get back to it some day, soon.
>>12736919Oh nice, thank you!
>>12736919ui_colors is gay
>>12736869You already show it off in all your posts.
>>12737004That's not for Quake, you obsessive spastic.I do wish that they just made it take an .svg or something else actually modular, however, instead of that awkward and rigid implementation.
>"In development"Any moment now...
>>12736592That's so fucking depressing. Either he's truly going senile, or he's just become so cynical and uncaring that it's equally tragic.This makes me think of that old scam where you'd install a program which would put up ads in your browser (so, adware), and the premise was that you'd get paid for using it, so you'd get paid money just passively while you were browsing. Passive money for nothing, bro? You'd be a fool to not do it! And then the actual payout for this was the tablescraps of tablescraps, you'd use it for hours and hours, days, and barely make a bit of pocket change.It's the same kind of scam, nobody is going to pay you an actual salary for this shit, the people running this shit will pocket all profits and give you crumbs for doing work for them.I wonder if it would be better or worse if he was bribed to do this, because at least if they just exploit him going senile, he would at least not be knowing better.
>>12737074>Decades long productionI'm not superstitious, but our best hope is that the jinx will actually come about in a decade or two... otherwise it's truly never ever
>>12737097Could a senile man be that shrewd on the twitter sales pitch talk? Every second message on his feed mentions word "community", paired with other scam bolstering buzzwords. I don't use the social media but this is somewhat amusing.
eceleb sandy 2026 =/= id designer sandy
>>12735653based truth nuke
>>12737158Shucks, well I guess there is no such thing as a good Mormon.
>>12737190True, true. It's still a bitter feeling though.>>12737256I pistol start when I pistol start, and I play continuous when I play continuous, I enjoy both and I cannot be stopped.>>12737287I know of others, and I think Sandy of the past still counts for something.
Yesterday was brutal, fucking felt like I got my ass kicked, so I figure I play with postal 2 mod for doom, I kind of wanna do a heretic inspired playthrough, since I saw one lad pissed on corvax now I wanna kill the final boss of the first game killing with piss.
>>12736593nobody actually does this
>>12737287Does Sandy have the Legos?
>>12737158AI, maybe? I mean, with Sandy falling that low I surely may expect him to generate his posts.
Sandy was always a hack. There's a reason they didn't let him contribute to Episode 4.
>>12737415But Sandy made all of episode 4.
>>12737190>>12737326I agree, was just jesting about his background, and I respect Sandy for his work back before, but when he was working on Doom I was like four years old. He is a different man now, obviously. I just hope he will drop this bull.
>>12737415I think he may still have been working on Doom 2 at the time? Not confident on that timeline though.>>12737402I think someone might try to do that, but doesn't it show up in the inputs in the demo or something?
Aaaaaaahhhhh I can't decide:Should i play Eviternity 2 or Arcane Dimensions?I'm still on more of a Quake mood but I haven't played Eviternity 2 yet and I remember the first one was great.Hows Evi 2 on Nugget? The official site says to use DSDA.
>>12736920I played all of it in a day when it came out and I recall having fun all the way up to the end. I'm probably not that hard to please.>>12734839You should play the Marathon trilogy, the maps there all feel like they are much more geared towards exploration than the action we have come to associate with retro FPS games thanks to Doom and Quake.Summary so you know what you're getting into:>Marathon - the first one, so the most uneven, with more than its fair share of cryptic albeit usually unintended bullshit, a lot maps that are mazes for the sake of being mazes, home to a map so notoriously bullshit it warranted an apology from the devs>Marathon: Durandal - has a stronger focus on action, but is still full of odd paths and hidden areas, much better consistency and level design>Marathon: Infinity - the last one therefore home to the peak of level design in the trilogy, considerably harder than MD, full of cryptic bullshit (intentionally and well-executed this time), will melt your brain if you start trying to piece its narrative togetherI don't want to turn this general into a Marathon clues board, but let's just say there's a reason people still talk about its story.
>>12734763New official episode for Quake remaster
>>12737503What the fuck out of nowhere. I'll check it out for Ironwail
>>12737503Why do they all start with D?
>>12737506>out of nowhereIt's the first day of Quakecon.
>>12737503Awesome! I'll wait until I can play it on a sourceport but it's still neat!
>>12737512I didn't even know he was sick.
>>12737503Did they add strogg enemies?
>>12737516You should be able to copy this kpx file from the Quake remaster directory, put it into your Ironwail directory along with the new episode in question and play it that way. That's how it works for Dimension of the Machine. Testing momentarily, had to reinstall the remaster.
>need to find a keycard and secret radsuit just to access nightmareI can't wait.
>>12737481It was a test wad when Woof and Odamex were implementing their MBF21 so rest assured it's supported well (and of course in dsda)It's the only wad I would recommend to play continuous instead than pistol-starting, it resets you every 5 levels anyway but you get to use cool weapon for 1-2 levels in each episode as a reward. Use saves, don't bother with 100% secrets but always go for secret levels because they're very much worth it. Also consider playing with -coop_spawns, it adds new monsters. And playing it in coop is even better!
>pickups to increase health capacityNeat.
>>12737503Neat.>>12737519I actually hope not. That one mod project was really cool, but I prefer to keep Quake 1 and Quake 2 largely separated in an official sense. I like both, but I don't want a slice of cake in my soup (shut up, I'm fat, I'm allowed to do food analogies).
>>12737526>Use saves, don't bother with 100% secretsThat's how I normally play Doom anyway. Saveless is for challenge runs, not first time playthroughs.
>>12737526Oh and it's my favourite soundtrack of all the doom wadsAnd the Egyptian episode rocks!
>>12737523I just yanked the mg3 folder out of the remaster, shoved it in Ironwail and it's working fine (for now).Well, this is lovely. A completely blind official new Quake campaign to enjoy as I'm getting back into the game.
>>12737546Liar, you're not blind.
>>12737546The text strings are broken. Ironwail needs to be updated to read the new QuakeEX.kpf file I'm sure. I'll wait it out. I want to be able to absorb all of it with correct text displays.
>>12737554Yeah, the text is broken, but I really want to play some Quake so I might just endure. Getting to hard and nightmare was tricky for this, and from the statement of intent they've left at the slipgate I'm assuming they aren't fucking around.
>>12737561Well, shit. It crashes after the intro. Guess I'll have to wait.
>>12737564lmaolol
>>12737567Hey, I tried. Now I have something to look forward to.
>>12737386It'd probably work fine with the universal raven patch, but I can post my version of RWC if you want it.
>>12737546Does FTE handle it well? It handled DotM decently right out of the box, text was broken but that’s whatever.
>>12737561Yeah the corpses and blood all over the place is a nice touch. Wonder what the story'll be. >>12737575Confirmed FTEQW handles it out of the box, text broken. Pic unrelated, I just wanted to show off the corpses and blood from the intro map>The Thirtieth Passing is the intro map's nameFucking love Quake.
Ugh... I think I might play it on the remaster then. I really don't want to, but I want to play this without it breaking...
The custom music amazing. I'm stopping for now. They've got pretty cool shit brewing gameplay-wise. I won't spoil, and I'm also ducking out until Ironwail gets an update.
>>12737591No, I can't do it, this is awful. I'll wait until Ironwail can run it.If you're curious about the premise, the intro text basically says Ranger is a schizo and thinks the endless wandering of evil magic dimensions is a nightmare generated by a machine he's trapped in and thinks some runes will get him out.
>>12737583>Confirmed FTEQW handles it out of the box, text broken.Hell fucking yes. I’ll look forward to eventual VKQ support but I love how FTE’s always got my back.
>knights turning into zombies when they dieIs that new?
Biting the bullet because I love Quake. I disliked a lot of the combat in Dimension of the Machine because it felt amateurish. Dawn is straight killer so far. Just finished map 1. This is plain Quake goodness. If you can stomach the way the remaster feels I recommend you get on it if you have any love for Quake. It's got some updated sounds, some new gameplay tics, great music, great level design (so far).>>12737659An idea brought over and twisted from Copper probably. Copper's new Nightmare mode has zombies resurrect, and it would seem Nightdive transposed the idea to knights. Very cool.
>>12737667Hell Knights also turn into Fiends, which is an idea. But it doesn't seem like all of them.
>>12737615>plotHonestly not that exciting of an idea. Quake isn't heavy on narration though, so as long as the levels are good...
Also, Ogres don't drop rockets.
>put a tower out in the water>put an invisible wall so you can't go around it and try to get insideWhat the FUCK Nightdive. >>12737682It's archetypes and meaning transposed to our lives, friendo. The Ranger ever trying go home is akin to Sisyphus. It's the every day you go to work, the every day you get up but don't feel like it. All against the truly scrumptious backdrop of dark medieval fantasy and sci-fi. >>12737684And grunts don't drop shells, enforcers don't drop shells. Also holdovers from Copper.
No, mr. advertiser.I won't buy your demake for some procedural slop.
>>12737702>BuyDon't be retarded. I'll put up the mg3. Just wait for the Ironwail update. I'm playing ahead of time because I love Quake.
>>12737684>>12737695>enemy ammo drops disabledInteresting…>>12737702I’m assuming most people here already own it from previous Steam sales when all Quake games were like $3 altogether.
>>12737702Do you know what those words mean? Also you can pirate it.
>>12737702I own it already for free you mentally ill sharteen
>>12737702damn nigga you really riled the shills
>>12737725>Steam sales when all Quake games were like $3 altogetherI'd rather give $3 dollars to a bum than to whoever holds the rights to the games right now. I also think all bums should be shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Uf4PcgE8gA
>>12737737 (You)
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OH SHIT THEY ADDED THE DUDES FROM QUOTH albeit a much less lethal version. New official Quake enemies fuck yeah.>>12737741>I also think all bums should be shot.Me.>>12737751I was going to stop blogposting but now I'll continue just to piss on you.
>>12737695>>put a tower out in the water>>put an invisible wall so you can't go around it and try to get insideYeah, I'm holding back my vomit and using the Kex engine to try this. The levels are so far good enough for me to almost not hate using the shitty remaster, but the outdoors ocean bit feels very amateurish with the inviting architecture you can't get to.
OH SHIT NEW OGRE.>>12737757Yeah there's a real stupid bit later on in the castle where you can jump from a window ledge over some boxes and they put an invisible wall there. Completely fucking stupid.
>The new expansion caters to the copper crowdFUCK. I'm playing on hard and it's still not dropping ammo from dead enemies.Oh well, I like how ranger is somehow injured and weakened all the time and you need to find powerups to permanently grow your strength. How does Nightmare handle this? Because from the get go you're on 50 health anyway.
>>12737759Rocket Ogre, Kamikaze dogs, and projectile Shamblers.
>>12737762The Copper changes aren't new, they were there in 2021.>>12737764Fuck yeah. This is the kind of shit I wanted from Dimension of the Machine.
>>12737762You still start on 50, so it's basically unchanged.
>bethesda saw how cool Slipgate Rangers was and had to put rpg elements in their game Damn you Todd
>>12737503NeatUpdating the game
>>12737659NiceI always thought that they were too weak
>>12737759I was literally working on an Ogre last night but mines going to be armored.
Somebody share the vault.
you know it would be kinda cool if they added the tri-shotgun from AD
>>12737767>The Copper changes aren't new, they were there in 2021.The ammo changes weren’t there, but yeah they’re secondary to the nightmare changes anyways.Not sure how I felt about turning four shells into two rockets anyways, but that’s regardless.
It's good so far, but I wish we got the AD style hub instead of a continuous journey.
>>12737802>four*eight
The newest way to buy Doom.
Cthon will be the final fucking boss, just you watch.
>>12737803Hell no man.
I wonder if next year they'll do something similar but with Quake 2
Just finished map 2 due to secret hunting. Good fucking Quake goodness. >>12737790Just this re: Dawn.>>12737807Feels like it'll be the chick on the box art. There are some unique textures for her, and a statue in a town square in the second map.
John Romero talking over a stream with Marty Stratton over at Quakecon right now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjrLz30fEZc
>>12737820Glad to see John got a day off from the gas station.
>more QuakFUCKYEAH
>health upgradesgod fucking dammit
>>12737828Ranger got Metroided.
>>12737806Two hundred pounds? I'm not trying to buy cocaine!
>Doors in maps require a rune to open>But you don't have that rune yetIs there going to be backtracking or a new game plus mode?>>12737845Right you are, Ted.
>Kill a death knight>He sheds his flesh and reveals himself to be a fiendJESUS CHRIST
>>12737849You can just, like, read or something.
>>12737852I wanted to go in as blind as possible, but oh shit that explains the biggest question I had.
>>12737849>Is there going to be backtracking or a new game plus mode?Yes.
>>12737852>>12737857>New game plusI don't know if I'd be interested, the secret doors only seem to go to small wings of maps so far from what I can tell.
So are they just going to spoil the whole new episode to me or what?
>it actually existsHoly shit I'll get ten.
>>12737863Yeah, I'm not watching this. John probably won't be saying much and I'm seeing too much before I get there.
>>12737849>someone got my referenceImpressive, unexpected.
whats with these quake fuckers. Quakes ok its no Doom
>>12737071>I do wish that they just made it take an .svg or something else actually modularmodular means the gay can be removed easily, it will stay there forever
>>12737912Honestly, I feel that Doom is no Quake. How anyone can tolerate a 30 level megawad of being surrounded by 400+ monsters a map is beyond me.
>>12737912sir this is Duke Nukem board
>>12737912Sorry, but we get serious around here.
>>12737912My hot and likely unpopular take is that Doom is the weakest of the classic retro FPS games, but it's lasted this long because it's the simplest and easiest to mod/map for. I feel Duke, Blood, Unreal and Quake are far better.
>>12737882I'm seeing a mix of Quake 2, Quake 4 and Quake Champions in those designs.Heck, that tank reminds me of Ritual's cancelled expansion
>>12737573I'd love that anon, if you could link me I'd be greatly appreciated
>>12737938And the solider on the right has Quake 3's shotgun
Where is my Q3 remaster?
>>12737071That's neither for Duke, you rent freeing erratic.
>>12737936>Doom clones are better than Doomyeah noQuake has better MP but that's it
>>12737913Modular would mean that any gay flag could immediately be supported on the user end, along with all other stuff. Same logic for why you can already mod anything and everything in GzD/UzD.>>12737947Ironwail is a Quake sourceport and it has no such flag color code as: >>12737004You double-spastic.
>>12737949I mean, yeah. They built off it and improved everything. Doom is still good but I feel it's too simple compared to the others.
>>12737806Has Anyone ever tried to reverse engineer the evercade ports of DN1+2?
>>12737953>worse weapons>worse enemies>worse movement>improved everything
>>12737920Most of them kill each other, most of the remainder can be cleaned up with area damage weapons, and/or go down in one/two double shotgun blasts. 400 monsters in Doom isn't really much, 5 or 10 minute completion at most.
>>12737951Powerslave is not a port of Dukeyou triple erratic.
>>12737959Nobody talked about GzDoom, Powerslave nor Duke, the subject was Quake.
>>12737882Someone PLEASE, HELL EVEN QUAKEWULF LASER SCAN THESE MODELS TO BE USED IN GAME
>>12737912I also don't particularly care for Quake.
>>12737957Okay, cool. I disagree with all of that so what now?
>>12737953>They built off it and improved everythingEverything? Quake's weapons are shit. Shotgun is a peashooter, Doom's chaingun was underpowered so let's give you two of them with some stadium rock crooner's branding slapped all over them and have the second eat ammo so quickly you can never use it, grenades with bouncing mechanics please save that for turn-based strategy games where I can spend lots of time planning the best angle, it doesn't work at all in fast paced shooters, and the lightning gun is just retarded shit. There's one good weapon, the rocket launcher. Shooter/FPS games live and die by how the weapons feel and Quake's weapons are utter fucking dross.
>>12737976>grenades are too difficult to useAnd I thought I was slow.
>>12737976>drossNot only are you British but...>stadium rock...you're also a fucking idiot. The nailgun feels way better and almost incomparable to Doom's chaingun. If you need to think that hard about trying to bounce a grenade off of an angle you've also probably (somehow) never played a sport in your life.
>>12737976You're only correct about the shotguns. I hate Quake's shotguns, they feel too weak and Arcane Dimensions fixed this by giving you a third option that upgrades and replaces the SSG into a triple barreled gun that feels like a REAL SSG.However, I can't agree on the rest.The nailgun feels badass and much better than the Doom chaingun. The super version is an utter monster and I cannot understand why you would think it's underpowered.The grenade launcher is fun as fuck and Doom has nothing like it. The rocket launcher is also better than Dooms by far since it has actual power, splash damage actually means something in a 3D environment, and you can rocket jump. In Doom it may as well be a rifle.The thunderbolt is basically the plasma rifle and I feel you don't get it enough/get much ammo but otherwise it's good. I will say Quake needed a BFG equivalent. Doom certainly beats it for that.
>>12737941https://litter.catbox.moe/zefskd.zipIf you want the Hunting Rifle and Scissors to spawn you'll have to reenable those and the ammo in Spawners, in Decorate/Player and Items, and then all the stuff I did to Heretic and Hexen monsters are in their Filters in the Decorate files and a few MapInfo changes.Episodes 4 and 5 in Heretic might be a bit much with those changes. I didn't play them with this.
>>12738000>a BFG equivalentAnd then Q2 came out, with a BFG that BTFO every single BFG-like gun that was ever made before or after it.
>>12738001Actually I forgot, Hexen monster changes were just in its patch in ZScript, but it was just to remove the NOBLOOD flag from three of them.
>>12738010Now this is bait. The Quake 2 BFG is well known for being underpowered and the worst version of the gun to date. I know Doom's version had janky code but the Quake 2 BFG did fuck all damage.
>>12738013I have the issue with the alt hud, is their a fix for that?
>>12738015Yeah, so well known it's the first time I hear it. It's fucking great, the visual and sound effects are godlike, the weapon model is cool af, and I never thought "I wish this thing did even more damage", it can delete whole fuckhuge rooms in one shot.
There's a schizo on the Quake Steam Discussions getting mad that people are calling the Quake 1 remaster a remaster because it doesn't say it's a remaster on the store page.
>>1273774519 new levels holy fuck. i'm sure two are for boss maps but goddamn.
>>12738031>i'm sure two are for boss mapsThey are.
>>12738029You should stop by and say hello
>>12734752Definitely not newspost-worthy, but Nine Inch Nails also posted a limited edition merch collection for Quake's 30th anniversary. https://shop.nin.com/?utm_source=Original&utm_campaign=20220921&utm_medium=direct&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nin.com%2F&utm_board=nine-inch-nails&utm_country=US&utm_linkurl=NIN.lnk.to%2FOfficialStore&lf=dbdb8ce85b960d4cd1326dc021339023One of which is a keychain with a dedicated HUH button. https://shop.nin.com/cdn/shop/videos/c/vp/8560d0216f5e41a6ad50c2ceec96d359/8560d0216f5e41a6ad50c2ceec96d359.HD-720p-1.6Mbps-90748085.mp4?v=0
>>12738040huh
>>12738040>That hoodieFUUUUUUUUUUUCK. I may pick up the keychain too.
>>12738040It's good I'm broke as fuck right now so don't have to think which hoodie size is the comfiest.
>>12738015Holy mother of cheap bait
>>12738020What issue? There are options for the HUD in the menu.
>>12738057I get this error when starting
>>12738061Oh, the thing I posted wasn't a patch, that was the whole-ass mod. Don't load them both.
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I hope someone puts together an fgd when Ironwail gets updated. These new monsters and tricks are really cool.
>>12738067Well still getting the issue what launcher did you use, I still keep getting the same issue with uz doom
>>12738079Tried to use zandorum and updated to latest verson, tried loading it manually, still can't get around this error.
>>12738080Zandy wouldn't play it since it has ZScript in it, and I'm pretty sure I didn't touch anything in CvarInfo. I don't use launchers, I use command lines and shortcuts. Does that happen with the original mod?
Playtesting 666 Minutes build. On MAP03, when walking along this bridge, I get some very weird occasional flickering on some surfaces, both on the left on the right. It's difficult to catch in a screenshot because it's so abrupt and in such a narrow window.I think MAYBE it's slimetrails? I haven't seem them behave quite like this though. I'm using Nugget 5.1.0, for what it matters.
>>12738072>20 minutesI don't have Quake 2 set upI've only ever played it once in early 1998 on someone else's computeroh and your post was 17 minutes agoThink I can make it?
>>12738101Ah okay I do not use command] lines, I totally get that, given the current situations with the lancers. Well the semi universal mod does work, but would you recommend commands over the launcher?
This map is considerably harder than the previous ones.Note to self: don't put all the revenant corpses there
>>12738101I just replicated the error by loading the copy I sent you and my original one. If you took the original one out of the load order I have no idea what else it could be.>>12738117I'm not sure it'd make a difference. My preference for commands is a 'tism thing.
>>12738105This map feels like it could use more ammo. I get a Berserk pack, but A), most of the Specters immediately get wasted by the barrels anyway, B), that's not great for Hell Knights in these spaces, and C), outright unusable on Mancubodes unless you use improved hit detection. Not a great prospect for three Revenants at once with little to no cover either.I'm bitching like a woman, but I'm giving first impressions, and I'll make an attempt at beating the level.
Luck out on avoiding seekers for numerous shots in a row, but then they finally come and they all roll high, thanks Obama.
>>12738121>The fat man was punched by a revenant.That's quite poetic.
Alright, this trap was good and mean, I deal with the first two fuckers, then realize I can't back up, and I realize that, oh no, Meatball, and as soon as I press fire, the Lost Soul charges at me and I fuck myself.>>12738162It's like I'm haunted by the skeleton inside of me.
Alright, now the map is really picking up. Christ, and ramping up, too.
Can't really rush ahead here. At least, doesn't seem that way to me.
Died a few times trying. Maybe I'm missing some approach though.
Well, if I play it safe, they can't really get me from there, but I also don't have a lot of ammo. I have Berserk I guess?
>>12738229map author herei can record you a demo if you wantthe map is pretty shit it's only my third map ever
>>12738238If I like, leap up back and forth and just swing at the horde, like a fucking housecat on a ledge swatting at something, I can whittle down the horde with Berserk punches and hopefully not be killed in the process.>>12738240>i can record you a demo if you wantMy fagmethod might work.>it's only my third map everI could tell lol>the map is pretty shit Well, the red key part is pretty awful, but the room in the middle with the Arch-Viles I thought was pretty good.
Speaking of new expansions to these games, was Legacy of Rust ever ported over to source ports or is it remaster only?
>>12738256It should run in basically all stuff I think? I think GzDoom had one or two lingering, very small compatibilities, a while back, but they should play.I only did play the first few levels of it when it came out and forgot about it.
>>12738252demo https://files.catbox.moe/y7l4ah.lmp
>>12738262>>12738252
>>12738262yeah you're cockblocked should have jumped down first, then triggered them
>>12738256It's fully playable in all the relevant ports now iirc. Unlike Heretic+Hexen new episodes.Also no port fully implemented id24 standard though, but that's because not even id24 fully implemented id24. It's basically dead.
>>12738262When I tried playing in GZDoom the banshee enemies didn't hurt me when they exploded.
>>12738273Cat instincts worked, it was just drawn out and tedious, but that's also my own fault. I tend to play very defensively, occasionally to my own detriment, like here, particularly when the first caveman-brained bumrushes didn't work.
I only own the GOG version of the Quake remaster. Anyone got a download link for the new expansion?
There we go.
>currently: max 110 nails, max 60 shells, max 30 explosives>end fight near end of level with 20 nails, 6 explosives, 22 shellsHope you guys had fun managing your ammo in DOPA because this shit's strict.>>12738293I might be able to get a mega link up soon.
This was a very good one, felt kinda cheap carrying over the last stuff from the previous map, but the combat encounters were fun and novel. I'll have to pistol start it later.
>>12738341>I might be able to get a mega link up soon.I'd really appreciate that bro. Was excited to go through Dawn for the weekend but Bethesda had to fuck something up as usual.
Uhhhttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/159593-quake-4-the-awakening-canceled-expansion-released/
>>12738415This is newspost worthy: >>12734763[8-06] Ex-employee releases canceled Quake 4 expansion
>>12738404https://mega.nz/file/RcI2WYZA#UlFaH5KPZNLHlj_uXgZHh_ZXa02P6c9fwtKRjoR29YYLet me know how that goes.>>12738415Well that's something. Was the whole thing finished?
>>12738040>The keychain is already sold outhuh... DAMNIT
>>12737402Watch the average streamer playing a new wad in DSDA-Doom and they will rewind spam through fights above their skill level and learn nothing.
This level was pretty good. Also pretty good looking. The concrete housing blocks with the art gallery was much cooler :D, but I still found this enjoyable enough.I found the special secret, but seemed to have missed another.
>>12738428>Even the fucking ammo box is sold out tooFuck. Any shot of a restock with how quickly they sold out?
>>12738415>>12738419>ice cold dukeoh him. he posted a lot in the id layoffs thread.
This level was ok I guess, looked kinda nice, but VERY short.
>>12737806They can't keep getting away with selling overpriced nostalgia to millennials.
>>12738415Can he leak quake 2 remastered entire source code as quake 4 too?
>>12737936Doom 2's core gameplay is the most flexible for modding since you can make both classic, small-scale maps and massive slaughterfests that don't play anything like the core game. Can't do that with other retro FPS to the same extent.
>>12738445We have a few anons here gushing over an overpriced "collab" so I would say that yes they absolutely can.
>>12738040Managed to snag the hoodie. Pricey as hell, but my shirt's size, the ammo box, and the keychain selling out within hours (plus people on xitter suggesting scalpers) kinda pushed me. Praying for a restock of the rest.
>>12738445Fuck you buddy, I took one look at that, saw the price, and decided "fuck that."
>>12737751Grind frogposters into paste.
>>12737745>This video may be inappropriate for some users.Don't tell me guys you keep accounts for this. This is pretty cucked, both the age restriction and login enforcement.
>>>/v/744844768Quake 4 expansion got leaked, seems like it was a few months ago.Still, I have my doubts about the github link
>>12738596Already posted here, also those are some retarded replies
>>12738602Sorry
>>12738428>think maybe I should have ordered a second one to give to my brother>maybe I should cancel my order and order againI guess not. Maybe I'll just give the one I ordered to my big brother as a belated birthday gift once it arrives. He likes Quake 1, he'd find it a fun little nicknack I'd think.
>playing Quake maps all month>thinking of quake, dreaming of quake>wake up today only to find more quake under the christmas tree
>>12738426Can't get deep into it at this point cuz waging tomorrow but it'll open on Ironwail 0.8.0 with the new music, not on Nightdive's port naturally, but Map 1 had an awkward moment where I seemed to teleport between one area and another in an early section. Text is borked as others have mentioned. Idk, I'll mess around with it tomorrow but just having it is nice. Hopefully the gog version will be updated soon.
>mfw i luv quake but cannot map to save my life at least playing it is really fun.
>>12738675>Map 1 had an awkward moment where I seemed to teleport between one area and another in an early sectionWas it this or something else?
How to get the nailgun
>>12738672Merry Quakesmas, anon!
>>12738703Jesus no wonder I was having a hard time the first map I didn't see that at all.
>>12738445Nine inch nails are selling a £90 black hoodie with the quake logo on it
>>12738723>$45 for t-shirtcouldn't you print the logo onto a black shirt and pay maybe $10 for the thing. wtf
merry qmas
>>12738749I was being a downer the last few threads about what we'd see, so to be wrong and get a neat little new Quake episode is quite a delight.Been going back and forth between playing the new episode through KexQuake and FTEQW.
one thing that annoys me about kex quake and quake 2 is they ignore basically like half of quakes legacy by just completely neutering the multiplayer aspect. No custom skins, no multiplayer mods. I am thankful for all the new single player content, but I wish Todd would throw us fraggers a bone. No reason kex couldn't have had a server browser in addition to the p2p lobbies for cross platform.
>>12738769I just don't understand why they need Kex shit tacked on to rape the performance and add input lag.These engine are open source, so wtf does Kex even do that they can't just add into the engine directly?
>>12738703You're supposed to jump down to a platform after going through the doors anon.
>>12738790Probably so that it's easier to port to consoles and keep each version in parity with the other. Future proofing.
>>12738831anon is saying they could have done that without the kex shit as quake is incredibly modular it was ported to PSP back when that was popular. They did it to have more control but just made it shittier by cutting what were core features like basically everything Quakeworld. Its not like Quakeworld was just this minor footnote in this history of quake.
>>12738072stats from the matchhttp://tastyspleen.net/~claire/ts500/2026/stats-ts500-quakecon-2026-campcity.txtthe demohttp://tastyspleen.net/~claire/ts500/2026/demo-ts500-quakecon-2026-campcity.mvd2it was a pretty fun time
>>12738868Easier for the devs* to port to console, sorry.
>>12738769>no multiplayer modsQ1 has ctf and horde.
>>12738884dude I am talking team fortress, head hunters, air quake, Quake rally. all that old school stuff. yah ctf and the horde mode are nice but its scraps.
>>12738685Seems like a pretty good time to start practicing with how the 30th anniversary has got eyes on it.The only way to get better at mapping is to map, and it provides a good excuse for playing more quake!
>>12738887Agreed that it would be cool to have those but it would be a logistical nightmare>probably couldnt even get contact with their creators (example airquake's creator keranen hasn't been in contact with any fps communities for almost 30 years)>all of those need heavy bugfixing since even quakespasm has problem with some of those>team fortress is registered franchise these days, owned by valve
>>12738910yeah I understand those limitations but theres a thousand ways around it since they own all the expansion assets and everything nothing to stop them from making their own class based shooter it didnt have to be team fortress necessarily. I know mods are their own legal mess too but I mean they could have at least given us something. Like add unreal like mutators to quake, or let people make their own games like they kind of tried to do with snapmap on doom 2016. I think that kind of thing works much better with a game like quake and helps people not too familiar with modding do something cool. They need to do that with doom too, like heres a bunch of weapon assets, some pre-made sectors, go fuckin nuts build your own mods with their creation kit. That would be cool and todd isnt cool.
As long as we're posting Quake stuff, I've been on and off continuing my porting of Drake content to Violent Rumble 2 because VR2 has lots of features I wish Drake had, even lots of features I wish Keep / Mjolnir and AD had. Plus I really like Drake's monsters. It's been rather hellish but I have the Dark Lord, the final boss of Unforgiven, ported to VR2, feature complete. 4 monsters down (Warlord, Hellhound, Axeman, Dark Lord), 62 more to go.
>>12737554>Ironwail needs to be updated to read the new QuakeEX.kpf file I'm sure.No.>MODDING CHANGES Localization strings are now stored in the Quake PAK, instead of outside the game data in the KPF file. Third party engines that previously read strings from the KPF file will need to be updated to read from the PAK file and should no longer need to load the KPF file at allMods can optionally add new mod-specific localization by overriding localization/loc_(language)_mod.txt in their PAK files
>>12739026The strings don't work and the maps outside of the start crash on loading thanks doc.
sock has been posting AD stuff on his youtube.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO7J1yGUFxABut mostly just revisits to existing AD maps, and he's not completing the maps either, nor is he giving meaningful commentary. I had no idea the guy behind AD was this autistic. This isn't how you drum up hype for your release. You give insight and shit. These are the barest bones a gameplay video can get. I'm sure the new AD will be great but geez.
>>12739054And who the fuck records in 720p in the year of our lord 2026?
>>12739036>The strings don't workWell yeah, no other Quake port uses the /localization folder for localizable text.
>>12738415>found on a computer I bought off AmazonAs a gamer, I'm very happy. As a corporate IT asset manager, I'm incandescent.>>12738426>Was the whole thing finished?Certainly looks a lot like it. Just from the files coming out of the archive it's 3GB of shit across 13 SP maps (plus 6 CTF, 12 DM, and 1 Tourney), complete voice work, 6 new weapons, etc.
>>12738697Yeah it was that. Intentional I guess?
>>12739078>found on a computer I bought off AmazonLMAO that's such an obvious lie. Former (and obviously disgruntled about it) id software engine developer--who would certainly have had access to developer copies of products made by companies who licensed said engine--nonetheless only obtained this alpha version by buying an old computer off the world's largest global box-shifter, completely at random. It doesn't even pass the laugh test.
>>12739150Publicly attaching that shit to your personal gmail would be pretty damn dumb.I did have a sudden thought that maybe they'd give this shit to MachineGames and say "Q4 rerelease this QuakeCon, brush up Ritual's shit for release", but then leaking it would be an even more dangerous play.
>sharteens are derailing the quake 1 and 2 talk again at /v/ and /vr/I am tired of noticing the same copypasted posts.>>12739064Which should be optional, nobody fucking plays quake in other languages besides english.
>>12737554>>12739026>>12739036>>12739064ironwail has been updatedhttps://github.com/andrei-drexler/ironwail/commit/54757f3fe3d9367ee10b8c352cc92a2ec98921fbsupport for localized strings it's not perfect yethttps://github.com/andrei-drexler/ironwail/issues/550#issuecomment-5209888829
>>12739036crashes are related to models format being usedswitch it to "classic" using the irowail options menu
>>12739215HOOOOOLYYYYY SHIIIIIITThey've already got it to work with the new expansion? I'll drop my Kex playthrough and go back to Ironwail if it works.
>>12739215Important note: The mg3 strings are NOT stored in the mg3 pak. All the strings for the basegame and official expansions are stored in the same file within id1/pak0.pak. Therefore, if you load the Kex episodes on the regular base game files, they won't work.
>no vores for 4 maps until i find a secret exitNo wonder I was enjoying this.
>>12739245>Important note: The mg3 strings are NOT stored in the mg3 pakImportant note: Pee is NOT stored in the balls.
>>12739245They also put all the valut graphics and maps inside the id1.pak as well for some retarded reason.
This website is older than /v/ itself http://www.quake2.com/crash/q2levelsa.htm
>>12739296>http://www.quake2.com/crash/q2levelsa.htmPure soul.Something so cool about old school websites. Just no bs, pure content.
>>12738040>>12738043>3XL is sold out
>>12739378lmao
>>12739397Quake fans are...
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49201930
>>12739078Unfortunately it will not boot. There's a version mismatch between the executable and the game DLL, so it always shuts down immediately.
>>12739475Also it might be locked down with Sentinel SuperPro. There's an sx32w DLL in there, but it doesn't prevent the program from booting.
If only Duke wasn't stuck in the hands of Rand Shitford...
>>12734774Get some friends to play with you. Single player boomer shooters feel very... hollow.
>>12739523>Single player boomer shooters feel very... hollow.there are 30+ years worth of custom maps/wads to play you dingus
>>12739523You feel very hollow. Single player is where it's at.
>>12739562Solo activities have never in the whole of human history been "where it's at".
>Vytaan streaming the new Quake expansion tonightI never knew he even played Quake. It sounds like a fun time to sit there and watch some guy play some Quake with a beer or two but at the same time I want to experience this expansion myself.
>>12739514>Dook mod for Ion FuryI’d at least settle for that.>>12739562>You feel very hollow.Calling them “boomer shooters” was a huge red flag.
>>12739475Belay that, I am a complete retard and somehow ended up with the regular Q4 DLL in the expansion folder.
>>12739632https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMXmNqCzlwA
>>12739586>Baseless claim>supported by zero evidence Yup, we can dismiss this one.
>>127359846:25 https://files.catbox.moe/gymnyf.lmp
>>12739586For normalfags with little distinction in their interests from their friends.
>>12739514to give Randy some credit, his Duke rerelease is the only one out of all classic fps games that got back original mappers to work on new episode. Meanwhile Doom and Quake hire some literally who's from Doomworld like Xaser or that Machine Games team
>>12739803id could have done worse for Quake. They could have done worse, like hired Slipseer mappers. Yeah they're good for amateurs, but they aren't official release good.
>>12739803All asha has to do is give the keys to carmack, and let adrian, romero and hall work on a quake 2 expansion where what if they still had input at id.The mere idea of romero's shotgunner traps and throwbacks to archronox and the good daikatana levels is enough to pull some good shit.
>>12739842I can't talk about Quake much, haven't played it, but the remasters of Doom and Heretic/Hexen sucked. Doomworld fanfiction sold as an 'enchancement' and those new episodes were horrible
>>12739896KEX Quake new episodes were made (mostly) by an actual old-school mapper from 90's who has nothing to do with modern Quake community.KEX Doom/Heretic new episodes were made by active members of the modern Doom community.I wish it was some rocket science instead of this.
>>12739958The Machine Games maps are way better than Legacy of Rust. They do a good job at making a slightly harder version of vanilla without going overboard.
>>12739968Yeah, LoR was far too hard for a commercial Doom wad. Leave that shit for community projects. Imagine hiring one of those slipseer guys who only ever make multi hour ballaches for your expansion and nobody to act as a tard wrangler, it'd be a disaster.
>>12739803Machine Games team has czg whos been making Quake maps since 90s. Dude has done classics like Insomnia, Terra, Honey and part of Rubicon 2.
>>12739958DotP was entirely Jerk Gustafsson, and judging from the map credits for DotM he was wrangling a lot of the team during its development. The new expansion seems pretty good so far so I'm assuming he's the one who headed this project.
>>12739803The new episode is only good thing in that remaster. But>its a downgrade from megaton>no expansions>no multiplayer>mouse lag>still no console contentJust use eduke.
Anybody wanna play Doom I, Plutonia, Hexen or Heretic coop? Thru Woof in particular. Also what the fuck happened to typing captcha?
Is it me, or is Dawn of the Machine basically Dwell only commercial quality?
>>12740007>Quake has TWO episodes called DotM now so you never know which one is which
>>12739984>LoR>too hardLol
>>12739984I wouldn't even say it's too hard, it's the wrong kind of hard. That final Archvile "fuck you" is just bad design. I'm not going to respect the map when it makes me play 12 mintues of some pretty difficult combat and then performs a coin flip to see if I can continue playing.
>>12740028Not quite. Dawn has one long episode with no theme. Dwell has multiple themed episodes.
>>12740029Oh, right. What a pain in the ass.
Somewhat related, I wish we had doomwiki but for Quake and Build. With all the authors, their releases, links, notes, etc.Who owns quakewiki.org? It looks like the best option and maybe I might get some time to be the change I want to see.
>>12740101Covering all games and maps would be be nice.A full page about q2 source port history too.
Can you miss out on runes by taking secret exits?
>>12739529>>12739562>30 years of wads to play aloneThat sounds miserable. Fire up Zandronum, tell your friends, and have some real fun for once.
>>12738040BUY BUY BUY I NEED MY MEMORABILIA FROM A BAND THAT HASN'T MADE ANYTHING GOOD THIS CENTURY
>>12740234Co-op sucks, because one person is going to get through the map faster and either leave you running in circles trying to find where to go or leaving you with nothing to do because all the monsters are dead.
>>12740101Blood has a wiki. For Duke there's not much, someone from time to time updates the fandom one and that's it.If you want a good database of Duke maps I recommend MSDN. It's a review site that been covering almost every Duke map for 20 years now
>>12740295That's why you crank up the difficulty to the max or download mods that make the game even harder.
>>12740305there's also Shadow Warrior Central. Unfortunately build engine stuff doesn't have one unified place
>>12740305>MSDNI'm impressed he's still going. It's fucking neat to see a site from the early 2000s still active and still feeling like a site from that era.
>>12740316That's because they don't have one unified engine either. Thanks Ken.
>>12740312Co-op mods suck too, because they're all just instakill monsters that have 100000 health each.
>>12740019I can. Are you in europe?
>>12740327>Thanks Ken.It's not his fault. Every dev team used it differently, unlike with ID tech
>>12740332I tried to avoid that when I made Slipgate Rangers cause that is definitely something that pisses me off about sven co-op I hate how every enemy is a bullet sponge it makes the whole mod feel like shit. Were not on 1998 PCs anymore its ok to throw some more polygons on screen.
>IT teacher tells us he used to play Doom a lot adn even made some maps>but he lost them>didnt even know people still play and how active the community is>didnt seem to care much when I tried telling him and showing the current port
Where do you find the shub niggurath fight that's at the end of the trailer? I never saw that.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Uf4PcgE8gA
>>12740249
>>12734763Gentlemen, its happening.https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-4-the-awakening-complete-editionhttps://x.com/TheDoomDominion/status/2085745319044632735
>>12740493BARAtus was fucking ripped.
>>12739529Too bad the authors of said wads have no creativity and most maps start feeling the same after a while because they are just copying better mappers and putting small twists on it (if they do that at all). Doom wads are samey as fuck, might as well be produced by AI at this point. I can count on the fingers of one hand wads that felt actually original and not derivative as hell
>>12739984I don't know if I'd call it too hard but there's 0 difficulty curve and the maps are way too long, making playing it pistol start and/or saveless a complete chore. Doesn't help that the Plasma Gun replacement is literally the Plasma Gun but shittier
>>12740498Dafuq is happening today that quake keeps getting good news?
>>12740526Quakecon
>>12740529Who's conning who?
>>12740019I'll join if you're hosting. I'm in the US.
>>12739215>has been updated>last release 8 months agoYeah okay Gitniggur, wake me up when I can download the port like a normal human being instead of having to compile some bullshit like a homo.
>>12740363Yeah, I am. Also learned that Woof doesn't have Heretic/Hexen support because the fag Fabian dislikes it. Fortunately he also maintains Crispy Heretic/Hexen.https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/issues/1768#issuecomment-2201988204>The other barrier is that I don't like Heretic and so my incentive to even start working on it is very low.
>>12738426Thank you very much! >>12739017oh my, this year will be magnificent for quake fan mapping. >>12739054Seems like it is the teaser for custom cinematic camera angle tool for montages/machinima>>12739245so what you're saying is I might need also pak0 from the new kexquake update to have localized lines working?
>>12736285rekkr remaster
>>12740550i don't wanna play hexeni'd rather play some doom wador we can do coop run of challenge map in crispy-heretic
crispy-heretic -file emerbath.wad -warp 3 1 -skill 4 -noautoload -record eb31 -connect 70.34.242.185also wanna vc? We can join the srbkart mumble server >>12736186
id gives us another episode for the OG quake and 19 new maps? I only recently started playing again and bought it on steam for 10 bux a few months back so I could have the files for my 3DS and it just keeps getting better and better!!! What a time to be alive!
>>12740568me and us guy connected and it worked fine here's my demo https://files.catbox.moe/3sw908.lmpwaiting now for 3 of us in the lobby. Are you coming europe anon?
>>12740249The guy has made a shit ton of great music this century, you're a fucking retard.
>>12740579He's not coming. Start?
Sunlust has truly ruined a whole generation of Doom mappers
>>12740568join this instead of mumblehttps://meet.jit.si/HereticSpeedroon
>>12738436I sure fucking hope so
>>12734752btsx project news?
heretic demo https://files.catbox.moe/6a7wq4.lmp
Hmm... expecting player to look up the steelshot for this secret trigger, I would say, is fairly unintuitive and treads the territory of zdoom-isms. REKKR isn't so vanilla as it advertises itself to be, is it?(Plasma gun, which the starting bow is a modification of, as well as other non-hitscan weapons, are unable to trigger shootable switches in vanilla)
666 minutes of /vr/https://files.catbox.moe/dehnap.wadwoof -file dehnap.wad -skill 4 -connect 70.34.242.185:2344
>>12740615If it runs with original exe file, it's vanilla, simple.
>>12740016Funny you say mouse lag and then say Megaton is superior. I always felt like mouse was janky in Megaton.Megaton is only superior content wise but the port itself was meh.
>>12740568>>12740579I was setting it up bros... 666 minutes will be fine too
>>12740498I got real excited for a moment but seeing that it's not actually out leave me feeling entirely "eh."It's just as likely this runs afoul of some sort of legal trouble as them just flaking.
>>12740617you need to stop the game or remake the server since it doesn't allow to join others while the game is running
>>12740227Yes, you can.
Sandy lost
>>12740665I wonder how he feels about the crypto shit.
>OP was fixed, broken PortaDoom also removedI'll try to be less of a dick now.>>12736186The all-in-one repack link is dead, and the pic has mostly outdated links. I made an update with the working links in the post, but I don't have the repack, so unless someone wants to make another one, it might be best to remove that part.
>>12740665Sandy is an amazing argument for never meeting your heroes.
>>12740679Kill your heroes.
>>12740678Last time I made OPs was over a year ago, right when the whole infographic retardation started. Be the change you want to see, etc, etc...
Geeze, that map was a nightmare to do saveless pistol-start, especially with the teleporting cyber and the crapton of wandering archviles wandering around. Map 29 might be an ordeal though, so I might try going for demos of it on my next day off.
Ok 666min in coop was pretty goodMAP05: this texture artefact when you look from the top at the lowered lift. Also mb needs some coop-only weapons at the startMAP06: no coop spawns
>>12740709Thanks for hosting. Some maps were clearly not coop friendly, but that's how it usually goes.
So I guess the new Quake expansion is not available on Gog yet?Is it compatible with both the original and the remaster?
>>12740498Wow, some random grifters already announced that they are assembling a team to get some community clout.
>>12740665wtf?
>>12740727Bob Terwilliger ass feet
>>12739656>zero evidenceApart from the myriad of media which portrays loners as weirdos, outcasts and usually the criminal/villian/antagonist, plus there's that little thing of humans evolving to be social. Being a loner has never been seen as "cool", "with it", or "where it's at" in the entirety of human history, and you're being thoroughly disingenuous if you are arguing otherwise.
>>12740029Appropriate -- modern Quake is pretty much "Dress on the Male"
>>12740721>Is it compatible with both the original and the remaster?Same, I don't want to play the half-breed kexquake abomination unless I have to.
>>12740741I thought they didn't change that much with the first Quake remaster unlike with the second
>>12740607It's fine.
>>12740665ass 2 mouth!?
>>12740678>I'll try to be less of a dick now.This'll last all of 5 minutes.
>>12740727Is it man or woman?
>>12740594Its not the wads fault, it's Doomworld's fanboy--er, fangirl-- er, fantranny moderators making expressing "I don't like Sunlust" into a bannable thoughtcrime. Blame Rdwpa, Maribo etc not Ribbiks and Danny Bob Nigger or whatever his fucking name is.
>>12740754It's weird looking,whatever it is.
>>12740547Based and literally me.
>>12740754Yes.
>>12740751Nah, I have a full weekend ahead of me, there's more Quake to play, new decomps to try, I'll probably start to draw some sprites before giving up again.Good time and mood await.
>>12740807I always love seeing what sprites/textures people draw for games like these. Lemme see something random of yours.
>>12740615You don't need to look up, and the steelshot is in the room next door.
John Romero at Quakeconhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0gPHsQN3eA
>>12740837Nice music
>>12740814I have nothing, hence the "before giving up again". I usually spend a few hours drawing shapes, but grow too impatient and try to get something perfect before something good, find that it's not even good, and give up. But if I get a decent scribble, I'll post it here.
Is the Phobos mod for DOOM 3 any good? I see it on the GOG store page
>>12740837>John RomeroEceleb discussion constitutes to thread sliding, and is bannable offense. Stay on topic, which is video games.
John Romero is making Daikatana 2?
>>12740881Do you say this to the screen when the credits roll on Doom's startup when it shows his name too?
>>12740890>when the credits roll on Doom's startupWhat faggot nigger goyslop version of Doom are you playing?
>>12740897...The original one?
>>12740837>rekkr mentioned
>>12740897The ID software credits that roll after the title card and before the demo plays, you mong. Startup might've technically been the wrong word but how couldn't you have inferred what I meant?
>>12740906>>12740912Oh that. I wouldn't call that "rolling credits" but then again I am extremely literal-minded.Plus 99% of the time I -warp and 99% of the other 1% of the time I menu->newgame well before the title picture changes.So I more or less forgot that screen existed.But I won't double down on this. You are right. Please accept my concession.
>>12740890Which is why I put an advisory into spoiler image. Joke's partly a follow-up on the Sandy discussion from yesterday.>Posting from your IP range has been temporarily blocked due to abuse. Please verify your e-mail address or try again later.Bugger off, hiromoot
John Romero sucks at this game
>>12740837
>Found the secret level in Dawn of the MachineThe gimmick got old quickly, but it contains a health powerup and more ammo increase backpacks so I suppose it's worth it just for that. Does health cap out at 100 with this pickups? I'm on 90 right now due to missing some.
Hinting at Doom remake lmao
What a lovely hat!I laughed when he jumped out of a window at me with that goofy headwear, but it was less funny when he started hitting HARD.
>>12740984why?
>>12740657i can play tomorrow
>>12740991You think they're gonna stop milking Doom games? It's all they can do. They'll milk Doom forever until the end of time. There's still room to remake Dooms 1, 2 and even 3 if they really stretch it
>>12740984They should just make another episode for Ultimate Doom.
>>12740996That'd be a lot of work to compete with a product that already exists and which they're already selling.
>>12740997Pull out all stops for a Doom 2 megawad.>episodes with intermission maps>all new music>some new enemies and weapons, new bosses>go nuts with attention to detail, use ID24 to its fullest extent>a bunch of secret levelsIt'd be a lot cheaper than any AAA game, and probably have better profit margins than their last Doom Dark Ages DLC.
>>12740996Eh, it's not like we have to play or even acknowledge it if they do. Nobody here gives a shit about Dark Ages, hell, nobody here cares about Eternal after playing it once. We all went back to the original with wads. There's nothing at stake here at all since the community will continue to make wads regardless of Bethesda's bullshit.
>>12741009Honestly I just hope it gives more attention to Doom modding cuz we're in a bit of a drought atm, especially a creative drought
>>12740996Doom 3 actually needs a remake
The fact romero had fun and gave input over the og levels was nice.
>some kind of alien tech marine soldier with a shambler head on a med bay bed>[Monitor] Status: Dead. Aware.I love this episode actually. It's kino. What's the deal with the cat statues.
>>12740976why hasn't Romero made a rekkr episode yet?
>>12741035I don't know if that was meant to be some kind of reference, or if it was some neat lovecraftian horror moment where the soldiers were experimenting and the Quake monsters are both dead but alive in a way we don't understand.
>>12740981>the secret levelThere's a secret exit on every map.
>>12741035>What's the deal with the cat statues.On one map you can find a grave for a mappers pet cat. It's probably just a little memorial to it.
>>12741047Really? Neat. Do you need runes for them usually though? I doubt they made ten plus secret levels.
>>12741050But there's cats all over every map. One rooftop has 3 of them. There littered all throughout the episode.
>>12741052It's not EVERY level, but it's a lot of them. From the couple I found, they seemed to be easier to come across than the normal exit. I assume that's why I missed out on runes. I only got one at the very end. When you finish the last level, you get sent to a hub that acts as a level select for the remaining runes.
>>12740875I installed it recently, and it looks and performs great, but found it extremely difficult.
>>12741053Lovecraft reference maybe? Then again it's machinegames, there's no way in hell they'd reference that of all things. Not with that name.
>>12741056Ah, that's why it's 19 levels, most are short secret ones. It makes sense. It sucks I only found one, but at least level select is a thing.
Just finished Dawn of the Machine on Nightmare. I thought it was decent but the levels are so large they can overstay their welcome at times. The highs are high with it and the lows are mind numbingly boring doublebarrel slogs. I think this time around there were multiple mappers involved because there's less tightly focused gameplay and the difficulty / length of levels shifts between each. The second to last level is really, really easy. I only went back through a handful of maps after I finished to see what some of the runes do but I didn't find much other than more upgrades, but I know some of the new weapons are in it. I thought the final boss was neat.
>>12741057>performs greatThis is a lie. Phobos' performance is garbage because it's using far more dynamic lights than the engine was ever expecting.
>>12741073I also wanted to add to the Nightmare mode part: the health upgrades nullify the 50-health cap that Nightdive's remaster has since you can eventually upgrade your health past 100 if you get enough of them. I finished the game with 130 health and I imagine if I looked for more secrets that 200 health is possible. They did, however, add the classic Nightmare mode as an option if you find it via the secret exit on 'Of Shattered Minds' which I didn't try since it's so late into the game to unlock it, but I assume stacks onto the new Nightmare mode.
>>12741080>This is a lieOk,boss.
>>12740727https://vocaroo.com/1oanJZvCDUvd
>>12741086Is that the one that also forces shotgun starts? It seems the maps are balanced somewhat for that, since there's so many duplicate weapons early on in the maps.
>>12741154Yeah, Bloody Nightmare also forces shotgun starts which makes sense on why the maps are designed the way they are.
I just realized that Quakeguy's family most probably got killed by the Strogg invasion. And if they weren't killed, either they are surviving on Earth in a kind of lawless world or his kids were sent to Stroggos and left the mother alone. That's sad.
>>12741197>I just realized that Quakeguy's family most probably got killed by the Strogg invasionDifferent canons for me.
>>12741202He got the date wrong, the strogg invasion was in 2050, operation counterstrike was in 1996.
>>12740984Most useless thing ever and the fact that a main reason for it is "lore" is even dumber.Just the fact that those flashback sequences in TDA using D4 assets and having a Spec Ops The Line tier story felt like they picked up the supposed setting of classic Doom and make it a generic milsim shooter that the "Slayer games" were thought to avoid being like.The "expanded Doom universe" is done better in some mods, wads and Realm667 assets.>>12741018I don't trust a D3 remake because I know it'll be made with its worst critics in mind, so they'll get rid of the interesting designs and add shit unrelated to its actual goals, while also probably not fixing its actual issues.All it needs is a proper re-release that does what BFGE and others should have done.>>12741197>Eternal: Doomguy has a dead family>TDA: Doomguy killed civilians by following ordersI can't wait for the next one to reveal that Doomguy never knew his father, was raped by his gay cousin and his grandfather tried to kill his brother by throwing him from a 2 stories window, then he died from cancer.
I always thought a Strange Journey-themed WAD would be cool, but idunno shit about making maps. And like, it's not SMT if you're not fighting with a couple demon buddies and idunno if you can even do that in a Doom mod.
>>12741224Strange Journey isnt a fps.
>>12741227... Right, no, I was saying an SJ-themed wad would be a cool idea.
>>12741227Your face isn't an FPS.
What does John Romero actually do?
>>12741240Is not tourist.
>>12740984Didn't they already do that? I seem to recall the ludicrous sight of inverted STARTAN.
>>12741016What do you mean? There are wads released every day of all kinds.
>>12741219Nono, Doomguy's father died at Auschwitz he fell off a guard tower
>>12740507>I can count on the fingers of one hand wads that felt actually originalGenuinely, which ones. I'm curious what people consider wads that are both distinct and good. Also, as someone who generally prefers stuff that's just a variation of something I already like (autistic whatever), I feel like the phenomenon you describe is kind of the point of modding. If people wanted to be truly original, they'd make their own games. If you like the core gameplay of doom, then slight deviations is most of what you'd want.
>>12741073You appear to be under some misconception. Dimension of the Past was the work of one man, Gustaffson. Dimension of the Machine (2021) was the work of multiple staff members. Dawn of the Machine is the work of multiple staff members.
>>12740507I don't think you actually like Doom. Perhaps you should find another thread to post in.
Separating view bob and weapon bob is based and I hope they bring it to the official Doom ports.
>>12741314I'm on the fifth hub of Hexen after beating Heretic the other day. Nearly finished with first playthrough - game has started to really grow on me. Heretic also grew on me. I think Duke next. Then go finish Blood + Death Wish + Shadow Warrior. After that it's Unreal + Quake 2. And I never played the Quake expansions.
New ironwail release wen
>>12740882Daikatana remaster by Night Dive, make it happen.
>>12741262He Romers Johns, it's in the name.
>>12741262Pumps gas.
todd stole my ideas so now I will steal his knights
>>12741513I, on the other hand, LOVE MY BRICK! And Doom.
>>12734752Are there any "screenshot saturday" or wip projects you remember seeing, but haven't noticed any progress reports in a long while? Digging up some very ancient screenshots or just sharing any memory is very much encouraged.
Do I need to get the runes as I play to get secrets? I'm in level 2 and out of the 12 secrets, I only got 7 and where I think there's a secret there's a rune door.
Requim was such a cool level. It reminded me of fFoggy Bogbottom from AD. How were you meant to get the Thunderbolt legitimately? I just grenade jumped up to it.
>>12742258So far no, not the 1-2 maps, those 12 in particular are all achievable. The runes are for "re-plays" as I understand. I couldn't get the axe in the room at the bottom you can see through the crack in the wall, and the health upgrade behind the door to the right of you just when you start the level, couldn't get it either. But those 12, I found them all, nothing too crazy but nicely done.
>>12742258Yeah, I think so. The runes are meant to be some new game + feature, I'm probably near the end and haven't found a single rune yet, so I assume they're either well hidden or you get them all fairly quickly later. Then again I only found one secret level and supposedly there's about six of those.
>>12734752is there any trick to switching to the standard shotgun faster after getting the super shotty? I like the super in some scenarios, but the standard one, to borrow a term from the zoomers, mogs it hardThanks
>>12742294Not that I'm aware of. You'd need a mod for that, unless there's a sourceport out there that offers the option to have separate binds for the Shotgun and SSG.
Imagine you're Doomguy and you're boiling eggs. Do you boil the water then put the eggs in, or do you put the eggs into cold water and heat both at once? Putting room-temperature eggs into boiling water makes them crack.
Dawn of the Machine's final boss is really annoying and I almost want to stop playing there. I hate it when boss maps make you fight enemies for a few minutes before getting another chance at him.
>>12742362>I hate it when boss maps make you fight enemies for a few minutes before getting another chance at him.Save the game at the point you want to retry from.
>>12742365Saves are gay
>>12742371I was just about to make an >inb4 post, but your faggot ass was faster.
>>12742371Whenever someone bitches about difficulty in a mod or wad, you always know that person has this retarded mindset too.>NUH-UH, I CAN'T EVER SAVE BECAUSE I'M A BIG HARDCORE MAN AND MUH DECINO NEVER SAVES!It's your first time through a new mapset, what are you trying to prove? You're like that sperg who gets drunk on a Friday night and then orders the spiciest curry in front of everyone to show how tough you are. It's gay.
>>12742376It's more fun to play without saves. Even with them, the boss isn't very fun.
>>12742351>Putting room-temperature eggs into boiling water makes them crackNo it doesn't, you're putting them in too long, or dropping them in because you don't want to get near the boiling pot.Doom guy would use a steamer anyway.
>>12742239Yakfak aka Zan-zan-zawa-veia makes these things that look like the best kind of 1994 maps, then never releases them.
GOOD MORNING MOTHERFUCKERS, IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN: SCREENSHOT SATURDAY!! WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time to post that shit!
>>12742427I thought you would wait for the next thread.
>Third expansion in a row by MachineGames titled "X of the Machine"Real creative naming scheme.
>>12742440Yeah, it lacks creativity.At least the expansion is better than the previous one. Although I've seen people commenting on videos whining that it's "too hard" or "confusing", which would be understandable for normalfags but this is Quake and these people are meant to be the community.
>>12742440Got to stay on brand. Self-advertise in the title. Might otherwise go out of business, don'tcherknow!
>>12742429I'll be going to bed shortly. So I figured I'd post it now.I also didn't notice the post count and page. Fuck.
>>12742473>I also didn't notice the post count and page. Fuck.LOL that's my point.Oh well if a new thread gets made in the next 8 hours or so, I'll repost it.
First time playing Eternal DoomGood lord is the low health face nauseating, it is genuinely distractingIs that the skin of his chin sloughing off?
>>12742521Gore that would make Adrian proud!
>>12742494I might make one when I get back home from shopping.
>>12742334aight, thanks anyway
>Donna Jackson, also known as the "id mom" and "Miss Donna", is the long-time office manager of id Software. She was hired onto the company in January 1994[1] when the id guys found themselves in need of someone to keep their workspace functional while they focused on game development. According to David Kushner, she had her job cut out for her as "office destruction" became a sport amongst Adrian Carmack, Kevin Cloud, and John Romero.[2]>Despite being hired on for facilities maintenance and household-chore-like work, Donna has acquired experience in game design and testing during her tenure at the company. Perhaps ironically, as of 2024, she is the longest lasting employee at id.[1] Wholesome.
>>12742587>Perhaps ironically, as of 2024, she is the longest lasting employee at id>2024Pretty sure she was let go after the most recent culling, though it would be nice to be wrong.
>>12742587Which progrock reunion tour is this photograph from?
>>12742289you might like w1m4 from smej
>>12742596
>>12742602Don't you reckon though? It looks just like the photos when they dig up, like, Fleetwood Mac or someone, to give them a lifetime achievement award.
>>12742334>unless there's a sourceport out there that offers the option to have separate binds for the Shotgun and SSG.That should be a very simple ZDoom family port mod to make, just copy the default Doomguy player class and alter the weapon slots.Then use it with Vanilla Essence if you don't want all of those fancy ZDoom family features.
>>12742621I just thought that for a proper rock band Prince has to be there.
>>12742640In the past, yeah, but Bobby died a couple of months ago.
>>12742651And that's why I posted the picture in the first place.
>>12741262He makes bitches out of (You)s.
neu>>12742683>>12742683>>12742683
>>12735984>>127396625:23 https://files.catbox.moe/jy4z8t.lmp
>>12742521I think it's just blood
I am an unapologetic fanboy but if you don't mind getting raped in shipping costs you can purchase the quake/nin keychain from the UK nin store. It cost me $57 total to get it shipped to the northeast USA
>>12742981(Release date December 18th 2026 wtf lol gonna be a late Christmas gift then)
