>play alpha 2, no cammy no karin no r.mika>play alpha 3, deal with vism being an option there is no street fighter game that doesn't have a downside
>>12735385>there is no street fighter game that doesn't have a downside
>>12735385>play alpha 2, no cammy no karin no r.mikaSounds like a good thing.
>>12735696Shit up Chun
>>12735385Cammy is in Alpha 2 THO
the vast majority of people don't play at a level where v-ism stuff matters. sfa3 is an elite fighting game
>>12736189Bro
>>12735385Tranny ken looks cooler than abomination from 6
>>12735385>waifufag pretending he cares about gameplay
>>12736949You can't describe the gameplay differences between the two. I played hundreds of hours of both you watched yt
I NEED custom combos and V-ism because I can't fucking do Charlie's retarded super moves
>>12737578They are retarded but with practice...
Cammy was in Alpha 2 Gold
>>12738192Yes but unless you own a PlayStation and have people to play with at your house it's kinda hard to achieve
>>12736941He's not trans they just decided he was actually Japanese because they realized he was popular and they didn't want one of their main two heroes to be white
>>12735385Hyper Street Fighter Alpha is the best
>>12737578Why do they think Americans have impossible hair
>>12738960Ken was always mixed, his eyes brows had mismatched colors since his debut.Every retro street fighter until Second Impact had him speaking entirely in japanese.
>>12738960>Japanese is when long hair
>>12740854Dark eyebrows with blonde hair just comes off to me as a bleach job. Which yes could be explained by him being a Jap but , bleach blonde hair was also just popular at the time, combined with his American heritage, the refusal of Japan to make Japanese characters look explicitly Japanese, and long hair it seemed like Ken was just a white guy who had like a rocker look, which also fit with his cocky persona.....you basically hit every cliche for how Japan depicted white Americans in media back then
>>12740871Anon, Ken lived in America and has always been mixed.His hair dye is rooted in Gyaru/delinquent culture which is also inspired by western trend, you're reaching a little too much to make this about "spiteful nips".
>>12740879I was mostly joking about jappos coping but the fact is I don't think many viewed Ken as Japanese mixed, I'm a lorefag and I never even knew that until recent years. Unless explicitly told why would you assume? Him speaking Japanese would be the only unexplicit hint, but you could also just assume it's just because he knows how and is a weeaboo. cause you have to remember SFs lore was added as the series went on, the original games and inserts were bare bones, and even in like the anime his exact race wasn't mentioned, just that he trained in Japan with Ryu, not that he had a white parent and a Japanese one
>>12736231That just looks silly
>>12735385>no cammy no karin no r.mikathose are upsides
>>127375343 has air recoveries and a blocking meter and the extremely shitty -isms system2 has vastly superior custom combos without forcing you to give up super arts or vice versa and it has alpha counters, now fuck off
>>12738192that's not actual alpha 2
>>12741256You do
Alpha 2 Gold is the best Alpha game.
>>12741802Shut up chuntranny
>>12735385Someone remind me In Alpha did they still portray hadokens as fists
>>12745395in alpha 1: noin alpha 2: yes for ken and akuma, no for ryu (alpha 1 style) and sakura (mega man charge buster style), sorta for dan (it's an open fist)in alpha 3: same as alpha 2
>>12741807Doesn't the ps2 version have some kind of extra ism that gives you everything?
>>12745485That's weird.
>>12746079I repeat the fucking question
>>12747932There are 2 custom ISMs that you can use to mix and match stuff (you need to go through World Tour mode first). But that has been in the game since the PS1 version.What you're talking about is that the PS2 version (Hyper SF Alpha) gives you the boss-exclusive Shadaloo-ISMs, which of there are 4 of (green, blue, pink and red). The red version was in the game since the beginning, but only the CPU could use it before Hyper (mostly bosses used it). The other 3 mix and match a lot of stuff, and there's even one that lets you parry.
>>12747947So.... which one is the one that gives you everything? I swear they're was some special mode like upper or something that had the ultimate-ism
>>12748098I'm pretty sure none give you everything. The one that changes the most is Red.Green is like Darkstalkers/MvC, you gain a Push Block and you can also do chain combos.Blue is like SFIII, you gain Parry and Super Cancelling.Pink is like Hyper SFII, no supers.Red will feature more absolute changes. Like Bison changes into Final Bison, Akuma gains his stance from MvC, Sakura gains her diagonal Hadoukens from MvC and Shun Goku Satsu, both Sakura and Ken can fire Hadoukens in the air, and so on.
>>12736231But I do play at that level, so it matters to me. What do you say now?
>>12748098That's the custom world tour ism.
>>12748157Someone should make a romhack then that gives every the ultimate ism. Every single mechanic, every button used. Surely it could be done. The result would be like playing rainbow edition without the jank.
>>12735385I see the appeal of A3 to the FGC masses but A2 is still the GOAT for me, from the gameplay to the overall vibe, music, stages etc. I think I only miss Cody and Karin from that game but not even for their visual designs, which I never cared for, but for their gameplay.Maybe I'm just nostalgic for A2 because we had a small competitive community playing it when it was new in arcades and then there was a small renaissance a decade later with SFA Anthology and emulation. Nowadays FGC has chosen A3 as THE Alpha game to play but it's fine. I can have A2 for myself.
>>12748726There was no appeal to A3, its all subjective anyway but the game sucked and im sick of pretending otherwise
>>12750774Can't say I agree. Whether it's better than A2 or not is debatable (I prefer A2 by far) but A3 is an enjoyable game and is the current comp standard.
V-ism is kino
>>12748726Alpha 2 and Alpha 3 both have very clear pros and cons imo. 2 is simply less broken, 3 has more toys in terms of mechanics and character rosterIf it wasn't for Vism, 3 would be pretty untouchable, but Vism turns it into a debate of whether you want to engage with a game that has everything but comes with a certain aspect of high level play that's unbeatable much like certain teams in MvC2, or whether you want a more grounded experience that's also lot more restrained.
>>12736189Technically, Cammy is in Zero 2' (note the prime apostrophe which Japan likes to call "dash") or Alpha 2 Gold found in the Collection or greatest hits version but not the original plain Zero 2/Alpha 2. Then again, the original Zero 2 did not have evil Ryu but became a thing in Alpha 2.
Nobody cares about Alpha 1 which was the only one I played before
>>12754373I do. Fun game
I never understood why Guy is a ninjer, but they refused him weapons. I know he's "heroic ninjer" cliche but uh so are the fuckin ninja turtloids
>>12757986basederhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5VHf3jmiio>>12755128
>>12756261Because..I don't actually know.
>>12757991What got deleted
>>12756261He's just a guy
