you walk into a room, you shoot soome baddies and then tap a button to see if you can open some secret bullshitI was so dissapointed when I played Doom and I was bored after the first ten minutes. Why a million of these fucking games come out every year and everyone has nostalgia for them is far, far beyond me but what actually makes me kind of pissed off is that there were WAAAAY better first-person games made before doom. Starglider 1 and 2, Mercenary, the elite games, Ultima Underworld, The Sentinel to name a few were vastly more interesting
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all video games are just arbitrary button presses on a controller that arbitrarily changes pixels on your monitor
>>12747556>there were WAAAAY better first-person games made before doom. Starglider 1 and 2, Mercenary, the elite games, Ultima Underworld, The Sentinel to name a few were vastly more interestingnone of those game are anything like doom, is there an icepick in your brain or something? Why would you compare them?
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>>12747556Heretic was always better than Doom
>>12747556>play a good game>bitch because it didn't change your worlddid you wake up on the wrong side of your bed, gramps
>>12747556beat doom on ultra-violence then come back and say it's boring, scrump
>>12747556Yea action games are usually pretty boring, that's why I think story/immersion is important in games too
>>12747614Hell yeah. Much better level design and the aesthetic is cooler.
Had to start somewhere.
>>12747556id shit was always just mediocre tech demos.
>>12747563Read more carefully retard
>>12747702It has a quicksave system. Of course it's boring, unless you do an artificial challenge run.
>>12747702Doom on UV is easy lol. They made the Nightmare mode because people kept telling id that UV was too easy.
>>12748813>tech demosLove your post because you permanently discredited everyone who uses that phrase as a literal retard.
TO DA FLOOR
>>12747556Doom is shit but GzDoom allowed these retards to create all these meme scenario levels. It's just some hobby for under 90 IQ fucktards, don't worry about it.
>>12747556It's fun and I enjoy it. Too bad for you, I guess.
>>12749165(You)
>>12747581It's dark times when the namefag is right. There's still a good thread here and there, but if you wanna get mad go read the super Metroid thread. Half of it is just bickering gaynus.
>>12749165what's a hobby for 155 IQ patricians?
>>12750085posting in /vr/
>first time playing quake 1>see mysterious hole on the ground surrounded my lava >save before jumping>it takes me to the next level>reload because I missed a door>that door also takes me to a different level>wtf different paths?>reload back to the lava hole before jumping>Accidentally save againI am upset. Now I wonder what that other level was.
>>12748918the first time you played doom on uv you found it very easy?
>>12748813They’re tech demo simulators, a tech demo would play by itself
>>12750286Doom 1 on UV really isn't particularly hard, until you get to E4. If you have just general familiarity with FPS, and you can play games like Quake and Half-Life well, a lot of those skills transfer back readily for Doom. Most people these days don't start out with old FPS so that's not weird.Doom 2 on UV ups the ante some, but not harshly, it's a slow and steady escalation towards the end, you acclimate pretty easily.Plutonia plays harder ball, on UV it starts out as Doom 2 UV's endgame as a baseline, and then escalates pretty sharply from there-on.Doom and Doom 2 on NM is, naturally, hard as fucking balls, because official levels literally aren't designed for it, but people who get seriously comfortable with and proficient with the game can do it as challenge runs. Plutonia on NM is absurdly difficult and there's a single-digit number of people in the world who can marathon it that way.
>>12750307>Doom 1 on UV really isn't particularly hard, until you get to E4.It's worth mentioning that the fourth episode was released after Doom 2, so it may be best to play it after 2.
>>12750307Yeah uv isn't hard if you've played it before a bunch of times. It's OPs first time playing though by the sound of it
>>12750085Playing Doom 3
>>12750531Why does everyone think doom players are intellectual giants?
>>12751050>everyone is wrong except me
when did boomer shooter become a thing? it doesnt even make sense.
>>12751991When those *oomer wojakbrown memes were a thing, so late 10s.
>>12751991The oomer thing was an aggressively forced meme which managed to actually stick.Then the whole "boomershooter" thing was lingo cooked up by corporate marketers to take advantage of it.
>>12751991When halo and cowadooty transformed every fps into 2 weapon limit snail walking regenerating health waist high cover level design but still called itself fps there was a need for distinction between old school fps and modern console slop.
>>12747556Okay.
>>12752835>Then the whole "boomershooter" thing was lingo cooked up by corporate marketers to take advantage of it.no it wasn't you fucking retard lmao it was coined on /v/ shortly after the wojak boomer meme spread.
>>12754661>implying it wasn't planted
>>12747556I also dropped it fairly quickly into episode 2. Doom was always a shareware curiosity for me more than anything, "look i downloaded a gory video game on the school computer"I love the aesthetics and the gunplay is great for the most part but the levels feel like they meander with no real purpose and the environments look bland. I enjoyed Blood a lot more, the back and forth with enemies felt better too still dropped it once ep 3 started though
>>12754661hmm what's more likely>in 2018 an advertising firm spends months spamming 4chan with the boomer meme because uh...in the hopes that a derivative "boomer shooter" meme is created so that they can maybe sell 5k copies of new 90s styled shooter games while calling it a boomer shooteror>some sperg with 0 hobbies makes a meme and spams it nonstop because he's a fucking loser with nothing else going on in life
>>12754897The oomer meme was very quickly co-opted by Monster Energy for their shitty drink, so what do you think?
>>12754934yup the sperg that made the 30 year old boomer memes was paid by monster to put their product in them. you got it anon. proof? don't need any, he just was ok!?!?god damn man you pathetic losers and your love spinning tall tales. is it because it gives your pathetic life a little more meaning larping like you're the good guy fighting against le ebil somebodies?
>>12754945>co-opted means paid for
>>12754881Doom 2 and Final Doom are stronger.
>>12757061I enjoyed Doom 2's minute to minute combat more (the expanded roster is good and the super shotgun increasing the gameplay pace is nice) but I found the maps even more wanting (dead simple was brilliant though). Haven't touched final doom though, isn't that plutonium?I'm thinking of trying sigil next, it looks interesting at least and seeing where doom map design from romero gets us 20+ years later is neat
>>12747556Try Marathon
>>12757284Final Doom is TNT Evilution and The Plutonia Experiment.TNT is, well, a very mixed bag, with a perpetually earned mixed reputation. It has been evaluated a bit more kindly over the years (leading to fan sequels), in large part regarding the aesthetic and feel it manages to achieve, but the gameplay design is a bit all over the place, and some people really don't like parts of it, or even all of it.I think it has good parts worth trying, but also bad parts I won't fault anyone for skipping.Plutonia was always regarded more fondly, as it's a very consistent in quality and has pretty strong gameplay. Quite tough, and by design, the authors clearly learned to understand Doom 2's gameplay deeply, deeper than iD Software themselves did, and you're expected to learn it as well to progress.Somewhat tempered by time, as Plutonia has very long since stopped being the biggest and meanest .wad ever (Alien Vendetta was ten times bigger and meaner already 24 years ago), and you could understand the gameplay loop even more than the Casalis did, but it was kind of a significant early landmark and which still holds up pretty well.General rule of thumb is that if you can beat Plutonia on UV, you should be ready to take on the majority of custom content for Doom and Doom 2, as a lot is on its level.
>>12757319I'll check it out thanks anon
>>12757294noooo you can't just grenade climb!!C4SC difficulty and tedium is painfully overrated to the point where I think most complaints are from people unaware there's a sprint key
>>12757331My problem with the map is that I didn't know you could double-press the switches to lock them in place. I would run across the entire map trying to find combinations that would allow me to time the elevators in descent and run up it
>>12747556>boomer shootersI was very young was doom was released but I'm a millennial. Boomers are not of the video game generation. Period.
>>12747556You don't appreciate polished action gameplay with nuanced skill ceilings. You just play for story and role playing. Thats boring. BORED BORED
Carmack was a genius programmer but a very shitty artist. That's why he could not transition to an industry where videogames have stories and music.Doom guy versus Kyle Katarn
>>12747556Is this suggesting Blood is somehow a bad game? Shame on you.
>>12757370Yeah, that's a bit of my point. Most people seem to be fucking retarded.
>>12757294This game would've been a classic if the enemies didn't look like a circus troupe
>>12747556„An idiot admires complexity, a genius admires simplicity.”- Terry A. Davis
>>12760432x10
>>12748916Savescumming is clearly not the intended way to play the game and it's not fun
>>12761183Pray that nobody here decides to look at the game's manual. It's not gonna look pretty for you.
>>12760406The Marathon enemies are great, enough so that a third of them were directly converted to/reappropriated for Halo.
>>12761745But Halo sucks
>>12762003The levels suck, the enemies are great
