What would you say is the single worst thing to ever happen to retro gaming?
>>12758849Gatekeepers that think they can stand inbetween old games. It's disgusting. These games are for everyone.
>>12758849Not enough gate keeping.
>>12758849Voice acting and FMVs
The fact a lot of them are experienced in unintended wats with mods/ports and fanhacks
Depends what you mean by "worst."For discourse? Probably YouTube and streami g, both in the sense of people not actually playing games and just developing opinions from YTers/streamers and how they play games (like anything that slows down speedrunning is inherently bad, like having to backtrack in Mega Man X games), and the opposite side, where people get accused of forming their opinions this way, even if they actually played the games and formed their own opinion. For collecting? Grading, and if you take it back further, collecting communities as your image presumably implies. The communities were fine back when it was stuff like Retrogaming Roundtable, where most members were collecting games as an extension of enjoying games. But as these communities got more exposure, of course it attracted investors who were more interested in games as display and investment pieces, who were more concerned with inflating the prices of stuff than they were with buying games because they got inherent joy from owning them.
Youtube essays. Not even kidding.
>>12758849PS2, Xbox, GameCube
>>12758934This
>>12758935I'd say everything after this. Gaming went to shit after disk space stopped being a problem.
>>12758934The real answer.
>>12758849Lack of gatekeeping
>>12759015b8 but i'll reply anyway being the worst thing to happen to retro gaming doesn't mean it does any real damageit's just the lamest thing about the hobby
>>12759038it's so interesting how the people that seethe the most about youtubers always know when a relevant video drops about a given topic. wouldn't you agree?
>>12758849the pandemic
>>12759015I do in fact think it's regressive when pretentious retards misrepresent media to a large audience, and then said audiences parrot said misrepresentations as fact without ever having consumed the original text.
dreamcast failing
>>12759015>Youtuber has an opinion on your favorite game>Now hundreds of thousands of retards know about it and have insufferable opinions about it>This draws the attention of tranny codemonkeys who reverse-engineer it because the original is bad because it's old and old because it's bad, making changes to it that ruin the original's gameplay>It also draws the attention of undesirables who compare the protagonist to Hitler and how you should not be allowed to like the character>It also draws the attention of whatever has the rights to the IP, who will go on to make a terrible cash-grab sequel that either ruins the reputation of the series further or turns it into a new cash cow that creates a new fandom of imbeciles who don't care for the game quite like you do>It also inevitably creates auster-tier haters that will make it their life's mission to persecute it until they die>Now you can't discuss your favorite game anywhere without at least one retard of any of these camps derailing the topic in some way>You can't simply ignore it all because everyone talks about it now>And the Youtuber? He doesn't care about the game, he just wants the clicks - that's why he's asking you to like and subscribe and share and click the sponsor link and go to his patreon and become a memberGatekeeping exists for a fucking reason. Should your hometown become a tourism hotspot? The next Paris?You know deep down that you don't want this to happen to you.
>>12759136oh yeah, im sure the harverster or phantasmagoria fandom were flooded with tourists after they made video essays about them
>>12759149Aren't you glad that some games can be saved? I sure wish Marathon hadn't had its name tarnished by a fucking extraction shooter sequel in recent years.
>>12758934Yeah, it's this.
>>12759152Bungie is full of hack frauds, bringing it back from the grave was inevitable since they cant rape Halo anymoreAlso in terms of retro FPS, Marathon sat at the bottom of the totem pole so it's a tragedy for the 10 people who were fans of it
>>12758849Not necessarily retro, but the internet in the long run has ruined video games as a medium.
>>12759158I respect 10 people who were there out of genuine interest more so than 100,000 who think they know things better because they watched an essay from a Youtube vulture who unearthed it to parade it as a shiny new toy nobody knew about until they graced the masses with this "new" discovery.I'm sure you understand what I'm getting at. You're not just another locust, are you?
>>12759161You mean when normalfags started using the internet>Google kept hiding this image from my image search despite using the exact same words as Jobs in the meme but it was the first result on YandexInteresting
>>12759206>and it's not even the original versionTch fucking do your job search engines
>>127592061990 is when normal fags started using the internet
>>12758849zoomers thinking that they can call modern gaming "retro"
>>12758935case in point, not retro, not even close.
>>12759081i wouldn't know.
>>12759242>1990 is when normal fags started using the internetAt expensive colleges maybe
>>12759242>1990 fucking kek okay zoomy
The advent of 3d gaming and everything it brought about.It rapidly married the gaming industry with the entertainment industry. It signaled a chase towards realism instead of stylization and it increased budgets and appetites until you had movie games.
>>12759328>advent of 3d gamingSo the early 80s?
>>12759340shut up faggot
>>12759358>tard ragelmao
>>12758849Probably gamefaqs being created honestly, nothing good has ever come from that
>>12759206The internet was already pretty much ruined by 2007, the real problem was broadband. Once you could easily send anything but text the good internet was over. Not that smartphones helped, they're absolutely what tilted it from "ruined" to "unbearable". But they're not the original cause.
Savestates are the single most damaging thing retro games have ever experienced.
>>12759136>Gatekeeping exists for a fucking reason.No it doesn't.You're mentally ill if you think "gatekeeping" is a thing that can even exist. It makes no sense. You're detached from reality. You can't simply STOP people from enjoying a game you like with your anger power. How utterly delusional can you possibly be?
>>12759425How so? Prove your claim.
>>12759454>You can't simply STOP people from enjoying a game you likeTheir ignorance can be impeded from taking over all discussion of the game by a dedicated fanbase.You stupid fucking communist.
>>12759470Haha holy shit you're fucking retarded and losing it.
>>12759470>N-N-N-N-N-N-NUUUUU WE COULD HAVE SAVED OUR PWECIOUS FWANDOM IF ONWEE WE GATEKEPT MOWE!!!!
>>12759242normalfags didn't even have fucking PCS back in 1990, zoomoidal
>>12759328>The advent of 3d gamingso you mean the advent of modern gaming?i mean, sure that's what pretty much ended the general production of retro games in the mainstream of the industry, but that's far and away from the worst thing to ever happen to retro gaming as a wholehell, if anything it was a good thing for retro games themselves and retro gaming as a whole because it cut off the shovelware spigot from pouring into the retro games bucket and instead turned it on into the modern games bucket, where shovelware rightfully belongs
>>12759456it ruins the game and makes it so that people who didn't beated the game think that they can claim that they beated the game and also make wildly incorrect and malinformed judgements on the games themselves
>>12758849>>12758934I want to say this, but I mostly want to say people who discover retro gaming through IG / TikTok by retro gamer types shilling their channels by talking about where to get roms and how to set up shit. It was gatekept for a reason, to keep some sites alive and their attention that brought thousand of views to their pages or posts kinda ruined the preservation aspect and for some anons here, where they snag their roms. >>12758861>>12758875Yet again, gate keeping is good, at least in the modern era. I've seen anons say that they've been using the same source for roms for near or over a decade with no profile on them. Which is good for them, but you can't just give everyone access to shit. The real issue is the super highlight on - >OMG YOU GUISE YOU'LL NEVER BELIEVE THIS>I FOUND A RETRO SITE TO FIND OLD GAEMS!!! SO POGS. >LOOK IN THE DESCRIPTION AND YOU CAN FIND MY VIDEO TO GET THEM TOO. Can we be blunt, the real worst thing is people using social media to blast where to find roms.
>>12759454>enjoyinglollmaokekjejrofllil zoomie really thinks he's "enjoying" the shit he's never playing and instead is just gooning to porn of that he got from the internetstupid fucking zoomoid coomoid AGP troonoid
Voice acting
>>12758849angry nintendo nerd
>>12758849LCD televisions.
Speedrunning or mobile ports.
>>12758849the concept of value - people factoring in price and availability when 'reviewing' retro games. Its irrelevant.
>>12758849Zoomers. Specially the variety who don't play retro games but still feel qualified to discuss them.
>>12759206No i meant more so in that companies have used the internet to release less and less complete games while also trying their best to utilize it to ensure you never again are allowed to own your shit and are dependent on their services.
>>12759454I kept telling people we should have spread the notion that old vidya is racist and sexist.
>>12759707rent free
>>12759550Same mentality effected buying retro shit. The same youtubers lamenting how prices are so high now were the ones posting all their pick ups and showing where they get stuff.
>>12759773It takes more effort to sort through folders to find that exact image.
>>12758875this and coomlectors. And the normie kind of nostalgia, if you know what I mean. Like i. e. someone posting a video or a picture of gen1 pokeman games on their social media of choice and all the normie fags being like "ommggg fr, I member ". That kind of shit. It mystifies something absolutely normal and common to a degree of worship that can only do harm.>>12759773nah, he's right. zoomers are getting into a hobby that predates them. They have no connection to the topic at hand.It's commendable they want to escape the hellscape that is modern gaming, but know that you're guests at best and invaders at worst and keep your shit takes to yourselves, assuming you're not autistic larpers only here to shitpost.I don't thrash threads of 8bit PCs with my ignorance, because I've never had them back then.Sit back, learn, temper your expectations and play more games.
>>12759364GameFAQs rules and has been around since the mid 90s. I suppose you could make an argument that easy access to guides and discussion about games ruined gaming, but the site itself dates back to retro gaming years.
>>12758849"Old thing good, new thing - bad" type of snobism. Too many people just posing as le TRVE gamers as some sort of rebellion against "the pozzed modern zoomer games".There's nothing more pathetic than a 40 years old man desperate to prove he's cooler than teenagers.
>>12759792>nah, he's right. zoomers are getting into a hobby that predates them. They have no connection to the topic at hand.What are you talking about? Millennials played atari but they didn't grow up with atari, most zoomers like myself were given or passed down the consoles of our grandparents, there is a connection regardless of your obvious bias.
>>12759806>What are you talking abouthe's talking about the retarded niggerfaggot behavior that you zoomoidalgroidaloidals are terminally prone to, like this >>12759773
>>12759809>buzzword babblei'm sorry you have a mental illness
>>12759813you're only further proving my point, nigger retard, fuck off back toʻ redditcord where you belong
>>12759802This is a good thing though when modern gaming is gaas garbage.
>>12759826>NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT!!!why are millennials like this?
>>12758934spbp>>12759206this too>>12759454>>12759531>>12759537kill yourself, reddit plague
>>12759425By making old games actually fun and playable?
The amount of completely retarded takes in this thread is truly astounding I'm not sure who's genuine and who's trolling.
>>12759834This thread is just butthurt uncs seething that no one cares about them anymore
>>12759771>the notion that old vidya is racist and sexist.that would gather the attention of other annoying groups that dont play the game
>>12759834>I WORSHIP NIGGERSwhy are zoomgroidals so nonwhite like this?
>>12759830Yes, it's the children who are wrong.
>>12759920no one said that bro, sounds like you're projecting
>>12759136Don't forget that they also make retro game prices skyrocketGod I fucking hate them all
>>12759920>I never even said thiswhy do you think about niggers? hell, why are you projecting your nigger fetishism onto me? holy shit millennials really are fucking embarrassing, kek.
>>12759867>Says while frogposting
>>12758849Just play old games why do you care nigga
The worst thing to ever happen to retro gaming, was for it to be a distinct thing.Prior to the 2000's and the rush of nostalgia-bait bullshit TV like I Love The 80's, older games was something only hardcore gamers cared about. Your casual gamer only cared about their current gen stuff, but the hardcore gamers would be seen occasionally playing old games or suggest old games to their friends. It wasn't called Retro gaming, and there was no big marketing push to sell people T-shirts with pictures of NES controllers on them saying "I'M SO RETRO!"Then suddenly everyone had to make a big deal about RETRO GAMING BRO!, and SMB/Duck Hunt cartridges stopped being 10 cents a pop. Youtubers and e-celebs sprung up overnight to tell everyone about the best HIDDEN GEMS and how retro gaming was proof of being a real old-school gamer. Followed by the youtuber/e-celeb watching crowd who couldn't wait to run out and buy some consoles and the most popular games so they could act superior to their fellow zoomer online.Retro gaming was better before it was considered retro gaming, when it was just playing some old games because they were still fun.
>>12760009wtf where did you get this recording of me
>>12758849Metal Jesus Rocks.
Nintendo
>>12760063Fun factAll videogames are currently 20 years older than they were 20 years ago.Think about this fact.
>>12759945>>12760004yes you did say it, you niggerworshipping brocollimopped subhumans, and when i catch you little niggers irl spouting that unc shit you will catch no less than 17 bullets to your brain cavities each, and then i will hunt down your entire extended families who bear the crime of the responsibility of raising such subhuman animals
>>12759931Absolutely.
>>12760194You aren't going to do anything to me, btw. The way you're acting makes me think you're very likely brown, because only browns have insane unhinged meltdowns like this with no impulse control and threats of violence.
>>12760243lol, of course a brown zoomoid in 2026 would think that whites have never engaged in supreme acts of violence in response to heinous niggardry, guess those who don't know their history truly are doomed to repeat it, just like that jew zoomoid and his troupe found out on that wisconsin river after fucking around like niggers
>>12760243>>12760373Post haplogroups, now
>>12760194
>>12760443your nigger retardation is going to, at best, get you disemboweledand it will be much deserved
>>12760803
>>12758889I blame FF10 for the first and FF7 for the second. Those games ruined console RPGs, thank God for the autistic Slavs who keep PC gaming alive.
>>12759864Exactly proving the point. This point goes hand in hand with zoomers not respecting retro gaming. But savestates are the larger problem that cause this mentality to actually form in the zoomer brain.
>>12761049Zoomers literally do the most ridiculous self-challenges on old games just for youtube clout.>Can I beat Starcraft without losing a unit?>Can I beat Ninja Gaiden without taking any damage?>Can I beat [racing game] with [the joke car that nobody's ever beat the game with]?Can you do any of that shit? I sure can't.
>>12760194holy unc crashout lmaooo
>>12759136Nothing you described has ever happened and you are mentally ill
>>12761102Feeling called out, tranny?
Also from what I was posting with the OP, the answer is NintendoageThey are the very first ones who saw retro gaming as solely an investment to cash out later on. They never cared about retro games as much as making money, and then eventually manipulated online sales so that games would spike in price. The owner even shut it down because he wanted to sell his collection to Heritage A huge part of why retro gaming spiked up in price and is the way it is now is because of Nintendoage
>>12761248>A huge part of why retro gaming spiked up in price and is the way it is now is because of Nintendoageretro games were always going to get expensive eventually. that's what happens to things that are no longer made. this are basic economic principles that you fell asleep in class for. you stupid NIGGERS constantly trying to find scapegoats to cry over are just flaunting your low intelligence for everyone to see
>>12761274these* are