I tried a bunch of those Amiga eurojank platformers, they always want to show off their skills and have everything glistening, steaming, shining, sparkling, rotating, and many backgrounds scrolling but in such an obvious LOOK AT ME CODE way that it's off-putting.I don't know how to put it gently but the Japs beat both the Americans and Europeans because their tastes are more suited to consdering the overall harmony of the image. Not always, there are great European and American platformers. But usually the Japanese have it all nailed down well.Ironically it was the opposite in the very early days, the mostly muted and earthy tones of the C64 made most devs consider very carefully where and when they would use those few neon hues. It's why C64 games look so damn good to this day, even despite the 16 color limitation. They picked the best colors. People could be forgiven for thinking that the Spectrum had only 8 colors, no, it had 16 like the C64. But its colors are so so much worse, lol. You can't make a good looking game with 'em, it always looks like some autistic psychedelic mashup of insanity. It's a cool aesthetic, proto-cyberpunk? But artistically it's shit.
Look at the bottom there, is there information you're supposed to see? WHy is it competing with a huge, useless geological cross section of the earth instead of opening up to the sky? It feels oppressive, just from a spatial sense. Rule of three, if you put the foreground in such a prominent position it'd better have something going on in it. This is just a repeatingly randomized pattern of what, buried M&M's in frozen cookie dough?The character at rest, Zool, he's too tense. He doesn't look like a bad ass ninja all lined up to kick ass, he looks like a kid trying to tell some guys in the mafia that "I T-TOOK KARATE!" and there's so much shit going on in the background that you don't even know what to jump and grab for. Are the candy canes the thing to jump up to and get? The gems? Those look like gems. How about the grapes? No they are just for decoration.The Amiga was a disaster not because it lacked any technical capability. But because 99% of Amiga software was a complete disaster by dodgy fly by night Europeans. Office suites? DTP? Spreadsheets? What's the Amiga spreadsheet?Video Toaster was American and it was just about the only thing worth a real COMMERCIAL shit for the Amiga.
Zool filtration is a good test for retardation.
>>12768115It's unplayable garbage, this filter you talk about is something that exists in a public swimming pool to collect the odd hair clump and bowel movement.
Westerners didn't knew how to make action games until DKC/5th GenAlmost everything before that is trash
>>12768059You're larping real hard here. The C64 didn't have "neon hues", and Amiga games look great.>but the japs beat both the Americans and Europeans because their tastes are more suited to considering the overall harmony of the imageThis is the biggest load of vague bullshit dicksucking I've seen in...at least 48 hours. If you're talking about platformers exclusively you only have a point due to Mario and Sonic. Outside of those two franchises, jap platformers have wonky-ass aesthetics and design. Then you look at games like Earthworm Jim, Oddworld, Banjo Kazooie, Rayman, Cosmo's Cosmic Adventure, Disney's Aladdin for the SEGA, Eco The Dolphin, and Commander Keen, and it becomes immediately aware that you're just unfamiliar with most western platforming titles, or being deliberately disingenuous.
>>12768149Then why is Centipede the best action game ever made????
>>12768149Doom beat DKC by a year
>>12768149tendie comment
>>12768149Lemmings was great, also a new take on platforming.
>>12768149This bait is boring and stale.
this thread reminded me that I need to make a list of and beat the childhood games I never finished
>>12768059>>12768081>enormous walls of ai generated schizo babbleyou really earned your status as a disgusting low iq lolcow of 4chan
>>12768707hello auster. mad that nobody likes the game system from your childhood?
>>12768723>everyone is just same person Great advice, man that spams image boards every day and is now known as 4chan's low iq lolcow.
>>12768723auster was a Genesis playerwhat does he have to do with Amiga?
>>12768741Why are you replying to yourself? It's clear to anybody with eyes that you're fucking stupid.
Even during this time and even for the most successfull well known games, usually Japanese devs worked with more staff than western games. What this means is that in Japan you had dedicated people like a main programmer, one or several sub programmers, a level designer or planner, a sound guy etc and once the level design is gone the guy works on another project the devs had. Meanwhile western games tended to have less people but these people would concentrate on one project and do several different jobs on that project. Zool only has 4 devs credited. The average 8-16bit Japanese platformer from 1992 is at least 12-15 people.
>>12768059In that graphic style I liked Trolls (played it on my 386, not the Amiga, though)https://youtu.be/XDEB6mK0XPQand Biomechanical Toy (Arcade)https://youtu.be/7jHx1DpttSw
>>12768806the home computer game was differentyou didn't have to talk to some suit from Nintendo or Sega to release a game, you just did itjapanese home computers also had releases by very small devs
>>12768512Lemmings the famous action game
>>12768828It's a real-time action strategy platformer.
OP got Z00LED
>>12770310It's far from the worst offender in the genre. Almost all eurojank platformers suffer from overdone everything.
>>12770805wizadry wasn't polished
>>12770372As an American, constantly hearing the term "eurojank" on /vr/ makes me think you're just a tendie weeb. On /v/ that makes sense because of how large developer studios need to be and how high budget they need to be for that level of polish, but in the 80's and 90's, making a polished game was not hard, and could be done by a single developer or a group of 5, easily, and was done. Wizardry is evidence enough of that, made by 2 people and better than most JRPG's of that entire decade.
>>12770808>Wizardry wasn't polishedIt was, retard. Sorry you're stupid. They playtested it and tweaked it over the course of a year. You being gutter-dogshit-trash at it is not an excuse.
>>12770810And they failed.Regurgitating things you read on a wiki doesn't change that.
>>12770809You didn't even read the OP, eurojank has a feel to it, it's different than American software.
>>12768059>Spectrum had only 8 colors, no, it had 16 like the C6415, because bright black is identical to regular black.
>>12768059They often lack polish and good game feel compared to Japanese games. It feels like a lot of Western games from back then just got things functional and called it good enough, rather than making sure the sounds and animations and physics felt perfect. Same applies to level design, they often liked showing off big levels without caring if it was a meaningless feeling maze. Obviously not every Japanese game is polished and there are polished Western platformers, but that's how I see the trends back then.
>>12770816>and they failedImagine trying to rewrite history for one of the most influential RPG's, lmao. It must suck living as you, coping as hard and as contrary-to-reality as you currently are.
>>12768806This helps explain >>12771739. Easier to have nice sound effects with a dedicated sound team/person, rather than a programmer throwing in whatever sounds he can find or come up with.
