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Why is FFV so overlooked? FFV was Sakaguchi's favorite
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Didn't release on the SNES in America when it mattered, only options for people are a PSX release with a junky translation and shit load times or a GBA release with a fanfiction translation and shit graphics and sound.
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If we got it in the SNES days between 4 and 6 like we should have, it would be just as fondly remembered as those two.
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>>12768615
Sakaguchi's fave is FFIX though
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>>12768869
In a just world, IX would be everyones favorite!
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>>12768881
>>12768869
9 is charming but the terrible load times and extra long animations make it close to unplayable. Fixed classes were fun, as was weapon learning but the gem system was very forgetable compared to materia or functioning

FF5's gameplay mogs everything in the franchise. I enjoyed 14 but the enemys in the ancient library have less attack complexity in that game than they do in the fucking super nintendo game

base ff5 is quite good but play the void divergence romhack
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>>12768891
>but the terrible load times and extra long animations make it close to unplayable

I bought it when it released and never thought about that a single time. I guess I just enjoyed the game THAT much. Or it was because I played many PS1 RPGS before it and already was used to battles not being instant.
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>>12768881
In a just world, IX would be fun to play
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>>12768881
It has probably the worst gameplay of the classic mainline series after II
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>>12768615
FFV is my favorite after X. But I never actually beat the final boss I got stuck on him and gave up from what I can remember.
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>>12768615
Sakaguchi also made Spirits Within and nearly bankrupt Squaresoft
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>>12769608
he was trying to get fired so he could pursue a rap career
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>>12769608
And what good has Square done since he left?
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>>12769206
>PC version
>Memoria Engine
>Tell it to cut out the scenic intros to battles
>3x general speed boost plus a 1.6x battle speed boost (increase more to increase difficulty)
>In game set ATB to active and all the speeds to max
Fixed. It can be really fucking fast if you want it to be. A bonus is that you only Chocobo hot and cold farm for an hour instead of 5-6 hours as this lets you grab 8 items and get the bonus every round, that mini game is so boring and took for fucking ever back on the PSX.
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>>12769620
unlimited saga
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>>12768625
>>12768631
/thread
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>>12768881
FFCC is just what 9 wanted to be, aesthetically.
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>>12769756
FFIX is love letter to classic FF
If you dont like it, you dont like FF

>CC
I still havent played it because it requires gameboy advance which I no longer own
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>>12769764
>FFIX is love letter to classic FF
>If you dont like it, you dont like FF
It doesn't even have any fucking crystals in the game, despite being the fucking logo
FFIX is fraudulent
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>>12769774
The skills you're leveling up and synthesizing are crystals! I think.
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>>12769764
>FFIX is love letter to classic FF
>If you dont like it, you dont like FF
Total meme. Probably bait. Probably half my posts shitting on FF9 over the years follow from tearing apart this dumb idea that "being a love letter to the series" means it's as good as all the games its trying to pay homage to. Starting with the underage cast.
>>12769774
The crystal is that huge one that summons Alexander.
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I love vivi and the black mages
I love moogles and moogle mail
I love chocobo treasure hunting
I love the towns
I love the music
I love art style
I love freya and her rainy home
I love freya theme
I love the weapon system
I love eikos cool home
I love the evil jester bosses thorn and zorn
I love steiner and his pickles
I love quina and frog hunting
I love the summons
I love the cinematic scenes
I love the underground tunnels
I love the MIST
I love the battles
I love the entire world of FFIX


I dislike:
Zidanes design a little bit

BEST FF EVER
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>>12769774
There’s a main crystal for each planet that powers life on them. Terra’s crystal is dying and they’re trying to steal Gaia’s. When you’re in the Iifa tree you see the harp-like roots of the tree stretching towards the planet’s crystal (but you can’t see it.
There are a few around, one normal looking one on Terra. The sword at the center of Alexandria Castle is actually a giant crystal that summons Alexander.
The gems that summon eidolons and the ability gems are supposed to be shards of an ancient crystal or something.
Then at the very end you travel to the crystal dimension (even the enemies are crystalline), the core dimension of the universe. And the main crystal in the crystal dimension is at the core of life and controls all crystals in the physical world.
In the final showdown, Kuja threatens to destroy this crystal and you defeat his nihilism with the power of love and friendship.
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>>12769814
I FORGOT:
I love the player card system
I love the auction house
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>IXfurries shit up yet another unrelated FF thread
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>>12769819
How has it been shitted up?
because you have nothing to add about them because you dont play video games?
>STOP DISCUSSING FINAL FANTASY AHHHH
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SNES J-RPG are so forgettable that even a FF5 thread has converted into a FF9 thread
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>>12769820
>STOP DISCUSSING FINAL FANTASY
..IX, in a FFV thread.
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>>12769823
The op literally mentioned sakaguchis favorite, which is actually IX and is on record of saying it
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>>12769826
You people are fucked in the head. Probably abused as a child.
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>>12769821
As stated above it wasn’t released in the US until the next gen of consoles.
I love V. I play the RPGe fan translation which is supposedly more accurate than the official ones. Faris is great, assuming you’re not playing the version where she’s makes silly pirate sounds.
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>>12769827
Totally normal thing to say from a totally well adjusted and well loved as a child human being.
lmao.

Anyways back to FFV:
Isn't V the one where you can afk grind on a raft?
Just as bad as VIII where you can cheese the game
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>>12769873
>knows absolutely nothing about any FF game except IX
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>>12769882
FFV wasn't released in the USA until 1999 and was only playable on the PS1 anthology game until 2006

Imagine thinking anyone actually knows anything about that game lmao

>dude Im 50 and just played it
dont care
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>>12769889
>retard doubles down
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>>12769873
No that's VI.
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>>12769892
>retard still hasn't said a single word about final fantasy V or Final fantasy in the entire thread, instead 100% of posts are about furries and me

lmao
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>>12768615
V has the best battle system of all the classic FF games
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>>12769897
>doesn't even know what anon he's talking to
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>>12769896
My mind associates banon with FF5 for some reason. I remember using him on the raft to try the rubber band trick. But I dont remember the raft being in FFVI or using him in it ever.
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>>12769905
Im talking to a sicko that likes to talk about child abuse and posts pictures of a guy he wishes he could fuck. still 0% posts about FF lmao
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The opening of this is so campy and goofy.
And this boss theme with the backing bassline? Exceptional.
https://youtu.be/RlTISk3zyzg
I can't wait to clear this tower and get jobs.
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V had a shitty storyline, almost non-existent with barely memorable characters. And while the job system is fun, it hurts the game long term because nobody is really unique.
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>>12768615
I feel like most things pre 7 kind of get ignored these days. Especially by square themselves. I don't remember Exdeath showing up in Kingdom Hearts
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>>12769935
>I feel like most things pre 7 kind of get ignored these days
You think IV, VI, Secret of Mana and Trigger are ignored?
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>>12769935
Well 7 really was their breakout hit, nothing before that even comes close to the popularity of it and everything after

But Square and SE have consistently tried to give the 2D games new life with new audiences, dozens of remakes and ports and references in the MMOs and newer games. FFV even specifically got a sequel anime. There just isn't as big an audience for them as there is for a heady melodrama with contemporary aesthetics
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>>12769931
The world being split and merging back was ULTRA KINO that is unsurpassed to this day
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>first North American release was on the PS1, after the PS2 was out
>translation for said release absolutely butchered the story
>had a decent re-release for the GBA that had a slightly better script, but still inserted tons of le wacky jokes that aren't present in the original version
The only semi-decent way to play it in English is the RPGe fanlation, since that's the only one that keeps the same tone as the Japanese. Most English-speakers have played the official releases and misinterpret the game as some bad comedy skit and post its shitty one-liners all over the place, which turns off people who would otherwise be interested in playing it.
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>>12770323
>GBA that had a slightly better script
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>>12770330
I stand corrected
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>>12770330
You want the RPGe translation that came out before any version was ported officially in English. It’s such a straight translation that people have criticized it for being too boring. It’s the only fan translation I’d trust.
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>>12769620
FFXII Zodiac Age HD remaster
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>>12769627
it still plays like shit because the enemy party formations are just plain boring
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>>12769819
yeah i'm noticing this happen a lot
they also don't even understand their own game when you get them talking about it
do they assume they can get away with bullshitting because it's one of the least played ff games?
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>>12770571
I may only be one anon but I seem to understand IX >>12769815 .
I got it before the twin towers fell and still have those discs. I've got over 500 hrs just on the Steam version. Probably 800 hrs total.
Also, furries weren't a thing back then. I think that the child-friendly side of IX was, actually, an appeal to Disney because Square wanted to go into movies / kingdom hearts so you had anthropomorphic animals (which was the style of cartoons at the time), alice in wonderland theming, and shit like the scene where Eiko falls from the sky, very disney moments. I think that's much more likely as this Lupin III-themed FF was very much a traditional hedonistic straight male story.
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>>12770615
I’m fairly confident you’re a bot, but just for fun: what the actual fuck were you doing past the first 50 hours?
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>>12770615
>Lupin III-themed FF
If you didn't know, FF IX is heavily inspired by the gentleman thief manga / anime series by Monkey Punch that's been running for over 50 years now. Considered the first "adult" oriented anime series. Zidane is Lupin, Steiner is Zenigata.
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>>12770630
That would mean your Reddit favorite is actually classy. No, your story is a cheap retread of Dragon Ball, which is itself a cheap retread of Journey to the West.
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>>12770625
I guess only 420 hours on steam.
Idk, I like it and play it every 2 years or so as gaming comfort food. Sometimes I even find a new thing here or there.
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>>12770641
I could understand FFV which has FJF for replayability. But you’re doing the equivalent of watching a TV drama on repeat for years.
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>>12770636
I've never had a reddit account. Nice try though.
Yes, and everything is really the epic of gilgamesh, which itself was based on stories lost to time.
I understand it's also a reference to dragon ball, but I only saw 2-3 episodes of that in '99. I have read interviews where Lupin III was mentioned directly as an inspiration, I haven't seen any Dragon Ball references mentioned though it wouldn't surprise me.
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>>12770646
>you're having fun incorrectly!
Imagine criticizing someone for playing video games on a video game board
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>>12770649
>I haven’t seen any Dragon Ball references
Ah, so an extremely lazy troll. Enjoy your response, attention whore.
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>>12770650
Welcome to 4chan.org, clanker.
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>>12770646
>But you’re doing the equivalent of watching a TV drama on repeat for years.
I absolutely understand that. The story isn't that good, the characters are barely good enough. But sometimes I just want to imagine I'm in that world, idk. Like I said, comfort food. Like aLttP for example.
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>>12770654
Shine on, you crazy autist.
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>>12770651
>He's from space
>He has a tail
I see that much, despite not having seen or read Dragon Ball (I never really liked battle shounen). What I said was I haven't seen any of the devs cite it directly as inspiration.
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>>12770659
>and his space race sent him to earth to conquer it, he got amnesia
It’s 1:1, you spiritually jewish chucklefuck.
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>>12770662
Again, I haven't seen or read Dragon Ball past 2-3 episodes on Cartoon Network in '99. I don't know the plot, man.
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>>12770664
Whoa, is that a hecking screenshot from the first ten minutes? We got a gamer over here!
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>>12770668
Yeah, I played the first hour this afternoon because of this thread. I've beaten it (once) before in the early-00s. Nothing wrong with playing games. And, mind you, it's actually the game that the thread is about.
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>>12770683
I believe you.
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>>12770571
>>12770625
>>12770653
reddit poster has arrived to talk about others shitting up threads
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>>12770691
>it’s clearly three different voices
Good morning saar. Did you have your punchgavya today?
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>>12769935
All of the opposite is true, they got attention to this day since and because VII, not many would give a fuck about any final fantasy either way.
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>>12769764
FF:CC can be played in single player with just a regular controller. That said, it's really only fun in multiplayer, and you do need the whole GBA setup for that. I don't normally pine for remasters, but FF:CC might be one that would actually benefit tremendously from one by being reworked to work in multiplayer with regular controllers.
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>>12770739
I assume you’re aware that it was remastered, but it specifically fucked up the couch multiplayer angle.
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>>12770745
You know, I may indeed have heard of it, but I must've blocked it out of my memory or something, probably because of what you said they fucked up, leading me to immediately write it off lol I do know you can play it on Dolphin with GBA connectivity intact, I did it once with a couple of friends, but we found it pretty janky.
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>>12770752
No, as I suspected, you’re some infernal kikebot.
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>>12770745
FFV has a multiplayer of some sort, apparently. No idea how it works.
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>>12770754
Nice word association, Pajinder. Enjoy your play through.
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>>12770753
lel ok bro. You keep fighting those kike bots, anon. I'm rooting for you!
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>>12770760
Oh never mind, you’re just the resident DBSpic.
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>>12770758
I don't consider CC to be a real FF. This thread is about V. V has multiplayer and I pointed that out, wow.
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>>12770764
Being you must be exhausting. Here's a nigger. Now accuse me of being the resident nigger poster.
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>>12770767
whoops, here is the nigger.
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>>12770767
…Where is the nigger, you LLM-ass shitskin?
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>>12770558
the hd remaster is a worse version of IZJS for ps2

>>12770646
this is why the ps2 version is superior. Remaster you can play all 12 '''''''jobs'''''' (lmao) in one playthrough and in the ps2 version you have to pick like in FF1. Limitation breeds creativity situation and with how shallow the jobs are in ff12 the game benefits from it.

also 420 hours is like two playthroughs maybe two and a half.

If you are 4JF fan play void divergence try the game with machinist and paladin

>>12770754
almost all the snes FFs have this, they control other characters during battle. when the feature is enabled you assign characters in another menu.

apparantly there is a romhack called 'multi-chaos' void divergence cut this feature to add more classes and battle mechanics ( like brave/default and field spells from crono cross that you can magic burst like ff11)
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mods get these pol faggots out of here reeee
going to report you to your fucking superior for slacking
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>>12770829
Fucking lmao. Eat shit, jew boy.
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>>12770821
>the hd remaster is a worse version of IZJS for ps2

What are the difference between FF12 versions?
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>>12770848
Job system. The original let you just do whatever the fuck you wanted which was just FF7+ cancer.
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>>12770848
base version - build your characters however you want - which like FF6 means that if you grind the game for a long time or want to optimize all of your characters will play the same

FF12 IZJS - they add a job system in like every other ivalice game. Note that every final fantasy game without a job system always uses an implicit one during the character devlopment process. The IZJS job system is very rudimentary but better than nothing. FF12 has a great magic system but the melee combat is very snes era. You pick a single job per character and can never change this choice like in FF1 ( where it was a wizardry reference. Every class in FF1 is from another game, even Red Mage which was based on the original printing of Ranger mixed with some dragonlance homage) . All the gamefaqs threads were 'IS THIS A GOOD PARTY COMPOSITION?' and it was kino. Archer+Monk+Red Mage was a common recommended 3 job party. in the HD Remaster not only do you get both jobs and subjobs on a single character ,meaning you can access every job in the game across your 6 playable characters but you can also go talk to homie montblanc and change your jobs.

also mobs have differing HP values and other stat changes across the three versions with the original being the hardest but the least intresting, and the drop rates were made less grindy in each version ( drop rate changes are a good thing) the other changes are pretty shit.

I love having a 3-d camera, being able to kite mobs, the huge dungeons and the magic system of ff12 but the melee combat and character building is atrocious even compared to the GBA game. The best game to compare FF12 to is the first xenoblade game which is lightyears ahead of ff12 in every regard except for aesthetic ( I will place dungeon design here, and plot) and the magic system

ff13 unironically has more engaging combat than ff12.
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Buttz
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>>12770323
>translation for said release absolutely butchered the story
Ah yes, adding a silly pirate accent to the silly pirate character in the silly child's fantasy cartoon game """""butchered the story""""""
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>>12771450
problem is the only semi-valid reason anyone ever gives for playing the GBA version is the translation. And it turns out to be complete bunk, even if it's not worse, it's quite obviously not better.
Just play as Butz on SNES with RPGe patch. No one should ever recommend GBA versions of any SNES FF game.
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>>12771450
This but unironically
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>>12770872
>ff13 unironically has more engaging combat than ff12.
TRKE
I just wish they had more time to develop cities, they're the biggest missing FF element to me in 13.
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>>12772589
yeah, there is some merit to the arguement that the linearity is ludokino but it would still be nice if the game was more full featured
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>>12769764
>like classic FF
>don't like FFIX
Clearly you're wrong and also a massive cocksucker.
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>>12773508
You're afraid of animals raping you and it shows
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i like 5, but my favorite is 4
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>>12773625
4 has a better quest and story. the gameplay is too simple- that is a good thing if you are new to the franchise and bad if you are not

i feel like you have to start with FF4 or you can't appreciate it
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>>12774636
I have started with 4, its writing and characters are bad as well
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>>12768615
Didn't release in America at the time. Nothing matters unless Americans care. Hence you foreigners infesting this place, twitter, youtube, reddit etc. All American made.
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>>12775073
the characters are fine. They are simple but the only RPG i played before FF4 was fucking pokemon - seeing that kind of melodrama was cool. Plus the quest is one of the best in the franchise. You go to hell and the moon. Pretty hard to top that. ( World of ruin almost as cool, better villian helps it exceed) Plus moments like cid jumping off a ship with dynamite in his mouth to seal hell.

kain betraying you 900 times and everyone fake dying was fun . The main thing that holds ff4 back is the gameplay being very mid and the JP version does not help much. The DS version has good gameplay but Im not huge on the art style ( I do like 4 warriors of light though)
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>>12775128
FF5 is largely the reason why SNES emulation exists . It would have existed anyway but this is the game that made it happen. I was blessed to play the game within a year of it coming out? Lucky



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