So it's really gonna be a 1:1 copy? What's the catch?
>>12770406The catch is it won't be a 1 to 1 copy.
Doesn't mister already have a neo-geo core?
>>12770406Nobody really knows anything at this point. The company promised that they were going to show it off before release but we're now just over 2 months from release and they haven't shown jack shit yet. And most of the info we have is from third parties, not Plaion.Maybe we'll find out at Tokyo Game Show if they show up there at all.>>12770417Yes
The catch is it's all arcade stuff that's kinda meh and I can emulate these games already :/
I'm gonna wait and see. If it really is 1:1, (and multicarts work on it) there's a good chance I'll get one.
I wish they would port Metal Slug 6 for the AES, but it's probably too much work for how niche this console is.
>>12770606That's the atomiswave buddy. Your closest bet is the DC homebrew port or one of the upgraded official console releases.
>>12770479Arcade games for an arcade motherboard? Who ever would have guessed !
Please, someone explain me why the hell there are two different face buttons layout for this thing.
>>127706271) they're renders2) nobody knows anything because Plaion hasn't said jack shit
>>12770694>1) they're rendersI'm not talking about the new AES+, those are controllers for the original Neo Geo AES.Actually the AES+ fucks up even further by having the layout of the left controller and colors of the right one.
>>12770749Are you sure those are both original? When the AES+ was revealed a lot of people were asking why the button layout changed.
>>12770986>Are you sure those are both original?Only right is original, left is the layout of the Neo Geo Mini controller. To make things complicated, the Neo Geo Mini controller was modified by sellers on AliExpress to have a click stick and AES jack so it can work on real hardware.
>>12770994Here is a picture of the Neo Geo Mini controller mod.
>>12770994Thanks for the explanation.I believe the mini had its layout modified because that's the moder layout that they use on all emulated releases and collections. I believe this was supposed to be the case with the AES+ also (speculated), but the renders had a lot of issues and at this point nobody really knows what to expect from that controller.Personally, I have it pre-ordered and I'm looking forward to it. I am getting the controller since I ordered the giga nigga pack and it's included in that, but personally I only really plan to play it using the sticks. For me the controller is just whatever, it doesn't matter. But I'd hate to be someone who's planning to play primarily with the controller because right now it's entirely a gamble.>>12770997That's actually pretty neat, I didn't know that these exist.
>>12770406Is it an actual hardware clone/reproduction or just an FPGA?
>>12771348It's the original chipset implemented in ASICs. Basically the same thing that Sega did for the Mega Drive model 2.
The Mister FPGA cord is functionally perfect. I don't get why you'd pay more for this device that doesn't run all the other cores that a mister does.
>NOOOOOO IT'S NOT A REAL 1:1 NEO GEO THERE ARE SUBTLE DIFFERENCES EVEN IF IT RUNS ALL THE GAMES>btw I heckin' love my top loader AV NES!
>>12771410>I don't get why you'd pay more for [real hardware that runs real cartridges and uses the original controllers] than [an emulation box that doesn't do any of that].
>>12771442Not sure what you mean by real hardware? The FPGA sitting in front of me is real, are you trying to say because it uses ASIC chips? ASICs that are "re-engineered by modern standards to accurately replicate the original machine's hardware and software"? That doesn't sound like original hardware to me.
>>12771447If this isn't real hardware, then neither is the Mega Drive model 2, top loader NES, SNES Jr, most models of the PSX, PSOne, most models of the PS2, revised models of the Dreamcast, Game Boy Pocket, and a bunch of stuff that isn't retro.
>>12771472People who get real pandantic about it absolutely argue those things. This is a "re-engineered" ASIC made 30 years after the fact. You can't in good faith say that's real hardware. I'd imagine they are gonna use the work done on the Mister core to make these ASICs
Manchildren be like: at last, I will go back to my childhood again with this overpriced device.
>>12770406Literal cargo cult, there will be cultist who will worship this piece of shit.
>>12770627it'd be pretty hard to define what the 'standard' layout is, SNK doesnt even stick to the same standards for their own 4 button games. Some might have punch on A+B kick on C+D, some might use A+C, B+D so its a pain in the arse even on mister. You really need to be able to rebind for each game.
>>12771489While I I think this is dubious on the value front, especially if it can't just load ROMs but calling the Neogeo a piece of shit is retarded
I'm most interested in the stick. I'd pick that up for emulation use
I dunno if this is a hot take or not but the Neogeo gamepad uhh control thumb stick thing fucking sucks
>>12770454If by third party you mean the chips designer, Bruno Steux:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RQGni4PKbIOr the guy behind the FPGA mister involved in the project Jotego;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY4oshwSp4MA game designer working on new AES games, Yoshiki Okamoto;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdJUBaHRwoUOr maybe something from the R&R Plaion department?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJUFyC7YDY8As OP said, wait for the TGS.(Spoiler: Chips will be "SNK" hard labeled).
>>12771503Thx for confirmation of my suspicions about cultist worshiping this trash. Now you are true NEO GEO knight - you defended it on the internet.
>>12771484The console costs 200 euros.Fucking cretin.
>>12771521I knew the FPGA guy would be involved, this is gonna be a core burned to a ASIC >>12771524Whatever you say zoom zoom
>>12771478>This is a "re-engineered" ASICSo is every single console revision I just listed.>made 30 years after the factWhat does time have to do with anything? The top loader NES is a "re-engineered" ASIC made 10 years after the fact, and it's still real hardware. Cry about it.
>>12771530Just to be clear, JOTEGO is involved who is the prolific fpga core dev. Listen bro, you wanna get goyed, go for it. I get goyed on other things.Also, like I said. People argue all the console revisions arnt real hardware. Genesis 2 has differences in games from the original Genesis.Dollars to doughnuts, the Mister core is going to be just as or even more accurate then whatever this is gonna be.With that said, I'm buying one of them sticks if they are good.
>>12771528Struck the nerve.
>>12771521What's the tldr on each of those?
>>12771534>guy known for reconstructing this chipset is involved in reconstructing this chipsetThat's not the own you thought it was>People argue all the console revisions arnt real hardwareLiterally nobody does that. Lurk more.
>>12771542It's probably going to be as accurate as a Mister core and not load ROM files
>>12771545That's not at all what I asked.
>>12771543Do you know what a ASIC is and how its different then a FPGA?Also, you outed yourself as underage. You don't even know Genesis 2 doesn't even run multiple games because it's fucking cloned bullshit Sega rushed out the door.
>>12771549You asked for a Tldr
>>12771534>The Mister core is going to be just asThey're going for as close as 1:1 as they possibly could; The Soudi prince who own SNK gave enough money to run two ASIC carving batches in case the first batch is a fail, the console only accept original hardware: Joystick, pads. Furtek provides the bios and they worked even harder on the sound design: hardware and software.They made no compromises, sound filters, 74LS logic video chip for crt fidelity, sound chip redesign et so on.So "just as"?, not quite.>>12771545If the 161 in 1 cartridge run on the console then it won't matter.
>>12771521>working on new AES gamesHopefully any new AES games will also get an MVS release. I've had an MVS for many years and would rather play anything new on my cab than having to buy an AES or AES+
>>12771557It's still gonna be a Mister core burned to a ASIC and sold for as much as a Mister with a fraction of the functionality. You can use real controllers with mister via SNAC. It would be crazy if this thing doesn't load ISOs out of the box.
>>12771565Plaion as planned to keep supporting the console after release, means, expect new games following up old ones.>>12771569Hear this, Furtek Cried, when he saw the SNK logo carved on the new chips for the first time index 23:33 on the first video.
>>12771580>Hear this, Furtek Cried, when he saw the SNK logo carved on the new chips for the first time index 23:33 on the first video.I dunno what I'm supposed to say to this.
>>12770406>1:1 copylmao no>>12770627because someone fucked up the design>>12771565>Hopefully any new AES games will also get an MVS releaseyou just know this isn't going to happen
>>12770406No one knows. The people who pre-ordered are the only ones insisting it's perfect. Which is just wishful thinking at this point.
>>12771557it's based on a mister core. same people that made the mister core and part of this project. >asic carvingwhat the fuck are you talking about, retard? and who are you trying to fool exactly? people dumber than you? impossible task. every few weeks you post the exact same shit, trying to sell this turd of a console, that nobody has seen, like it's some revolutionary gear when they had to beg the creators of the mister core to make one for them but rewrite it without using any gpl code. LOL. fuck off, spastic.
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>>12771565unlikely but NGdevteam has hinted that the new cartridge tech being used will lead to much cheaper reprints of their games. Until now producing a new Neo Geo cart has costed like $500, hopefully we can get Kraut Buster carts for $100 now.
>>12771605>new cartridge tech being used will lead to much cheaper reprints of their games.get the fuck out of here. "new cartridge tech" - yeah, a fuckin micro controller that costs $10, most likely encrypted, and stored in some flash rom that costs around same price. that'll be $400 a cart. no refunds.
>>12771553Name the games.
>>12771625He can't because it runs all of them. He's thinking of the Genesis 3 which shows that he has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.
>>12771528heheemulators are free
>>12771615It's already been confirmed that AES+ cartridges aren't using flash roms
>>12771625>>12771636Budokan: The Martial Spirit Ishido: The Way of Stones PopulousZany GolfOnslaughtIt's like you people don't have Google.Also, 1 chip SNESs have issues that 2 chip SNESs don't. Demon's Crest for example shows glitches on top of the screen.Are you people children or is this your first time getting into old games?
>>12771652It's NOR flash.https://x.com/furrtek/status/2049516465783546062
>>12771652it makes no difference if they use flash or not, you stupid fuck.
Can we please just have a civil discussion instead of arguing and belittling each other, what the fuck
>>12771669>fuckThat's the issue; we don't.
>>12771669this same thread is posted several times a month. people are sick to death of reading about this fucking shit that nobody has seen or has any techincal data on. fuck off, you sad cunt. go spam reddit with your shit neogeo remake garbage. it's not real neogeo hardware. it never will be. it's a fucking mister core. FUCK OFF.
And >>12771679 definitively hasn't scored for a while. Must have balls the size of a football pitch.
>>12771653>unlicensed gamesTry again
>>12771668It literally does
>>12771692Ah yes, the famous unlicensed game Demons Crest. Silly me
>>12771705You listed unlicensed games for the Genesis, don't pretend you don't know what I'm talking about you faggot. And Demon's Crest works, there's a difference between a graphical glitch and the game not working at all so quit moving the goalpost.
>>12771708You are the one that said all these clone consoles are perfect copies of the real hardware. You are the one moving goal posts by saying games that I could buy in the 90s and boot on my Genesis somehow don't count or that plenty of SNES games don't run correctly on 1 chip SNES also somehow don't count.It is absurd you think a re engineered ASIC 30 years after the fact is going to be "real hardware". Especially when you turn your nose up on FPGA options when this fucking new neogeo is being made by the most prolific FPGA dev. What are we even doing here?
>>12771710>You are the one that said all these clone consoles are perfect copies of the real hardwareI said that they are the original chipsets re-engineered as ASICs, which is exactly what they are, and.is exactly what the new NeoGeo is. The rest is just you moving the goalpost.>You are the one moving goal posts by saying games that I could buy in the 90s and boot on my Genesis somehow don't countYou could buy unlicensed games in the 90s, but they weren't guaranteed to work. That's like crying that your NES is fake because your unlicensed Wisdom Tree bible game doesn't work. I bet you did that too, faggot.>30 years after the factYou keep saying that as if it means something.
>>12771715>Re-egineeredYou are being so disingenuous it's insane
>>12770406Best you can hope for is a powerful enough fpga with the core designed by competent people using the original aes design docs and schematics. Worst you can expect is a shitty sbc running a forked version of mame with a bunch of speed hacks included.
>>12771721This one is the worst of both worlds, a ASIC made by a FPGA dev
>>12771557> If the 161 in 1 cartridge run on the console then it won't matter.This is what I'm waiting to see.
>>12771484Anon be like: at last, I will finally become a real woman with this overpriced bovine estrogen.
>>12770627The right one is the original Neo Geo CD layout, the left one is the standard button layout for console ports that SNK has used since PSX days. It's the one most people are used to.
>>12771442Pretty sure they can use the original controllers, assuming USB adapters.
>this piece of shit is being shilled meanwhile you could have gotten a real MVS for 40-50 bucks Lmao, nice grift though
>>12772150>and original MVS cartridges for 500£ a pop.>Imbeciles>Also good luck getting a refund if the the cartridge dies or if your MVS needs repairs.>Cretin
>>12772902>500£ >original cartidgeAbsolute skill issue you fucking suck at hunting for deals. While i'm at it. These repros are about original as the chinese repros for 50 bucks on aliexpress.>You can't repair stuff I repaired CPS1 and TaitoF3, MVS is childsplay bitch boy. Also plenty of arcade enthusiast forums out there offering repair services for people who can't do it themselves.Fuck off back to whatever shithole you crawled out of.
>>12771442An emulation box can easily use an original AES controller.
>>12772902>tripfag has retarded opinions Many such cases
>>12773103Trump was Epstein's best friend for ten years. Nice role model you have here.And it's not a tripcode bumbling buffoon.
>>12773058Shove it up your ass.
>>12773058>These repros are about original as the chinese repros for 50 bucks on aliexpress.Probably sourced from the same people too.
>We are approaching the release date and there's still fuck all information >Bbbbut they stamped the chips allegedly with SNK logo I can get chang to stamp any chip NAMCO, SEGA, Sammy, Capcom etc.
>>12773636You can also go suck some dick.It's within the same realm of possibilities.
>>12773661>Seething conman
The closer we get to release, the more obvious it is that this project is basically running on empty hype from stagnant, shitty retrogayming youtube channels, hopium, and fud.Have they actually signed a contract with Seimitsu and brought back the LS-22 for the so called authentic controller.To end it all, why would you hide good news?
>>12771484what nobody owned one of these back in the day
>>12771535Failed the English>>12771534Jotego didn't develop the MiSTer core. Furrtek was the one who traced the chips and wrote the HDL that the MiSTer is based on>>12771605This sounds unlikely since I don't see why or how Plaion would share their designs with two brothers from GermanyAlso their games use a FPGA for encryption which the Plaion carts won't have>>12771715NTA but you did say the games wouldn't work at all, then moved the goal posts>>12773235Guarantee you that isn't the case but you already know this you disingenuous retarded troll
>>12773235Those have been confirmed to be pretty good. I own a couple they work perfect.
>>12774402can't be hard for people to reverse engineer whatever solution Plaion has paid Furtek to invent, assuming he doesn't open source it anyway as he's done with everything else
>>12771534>Also, like I said. People argue all the console revisions arnt real hardware. Genesis 2 has differences in games from the original Genesis.Genesis 3 is considered a steaming of pile of shit
