There are so many fucking ports and versions of these games. Which should I play?Normally I play the original version of a game but for these I've heard it's better to play later revisions that have huge bug fixes. I'd prefer to play with a keyboard but I can compromise. I'd prefer a version without automapping I think. I'd like to be able to use the same party between games. I like the monster art on the ps1 version. I like the overall style of the SNES version, I think. I'm also open to fan version of these games if they are faithful.
spam threadliteral a copy/paste from the archives
>>12780941Then link it so I can read the thread, fucktard. I checked on Desu already.
>>12780928Snes or GBC
>>12780941There are almost no Wizardry threads in the archive and this isn't a C&P of one.>>12780928Just play the SNES versions then for 1-3 and 5 since the.PS1 vers are only partial English. Skip 4 since it's a turd unless you know Japanese to play their PS1 remake.
>>12780997Honestly reading about 4 is what interested me in wizardry in the first place. What do you mean by PSX versions are partially translated?
We already settled this, Apple ][ version is the only way to play. Any version with automapping or the screen flash gimmick is cheating, and you didn't win the game.
>>12781047They have some of the original version's English in them and you can change an option to get that much, but some stuff is still in Japanese only. The Japanese 4&5 PS1 game has the original 4 but also remake of 4 that is not shitty. The original 4 was poorly tested where the testers/reviewers just said lol I'm stuck and were given the solution by the developers, most of the shit has no ingame hints or anything.
>>12781050tbf it's kind of retarded that you don't get any visual cue for warps, so you just have to spam dumapic for every single cell which is kinda shit design and not immersive at all. If it wasn't for that I'd agree that automapping is kinda casual/lazy
>>12781065It's purposefully designed to be 'hard' and annoying, not immersive.
>>12781068It's both, only the lack of visual cue for traps kinda kill the dungeoning ny making it slower and more obtuse
>>12781065You do get visual clues for warps, looking at a warp tile will "warp" your vision as well, so you see the place you'll warp to before entering the warp.Obviously there are places that take advantage of this by warping you to a place that looks visually identical to the one that would've normally been in that spot, but the very first warp is easy to spot if you pay attention since you'll see a corridor in a place where it can't actually be on the map as you're about to enter it.
>>12781050How about if I shove my thumbs in your eye sockets, do I win the game then?
>>12781065No you don’t, get good at mapping
>>12781129Go kill another child, loser. Thanks for your service!
>>12781064Is it playable with the Japanese/English? Has there really never been a fan patch or anything for it? I'm surprised since the Wizardry games are pretty popular
>>12782365That guy's full of shit, the entire game is in English other than the story slideshows, spell descriptions, and enemy flavor text in the bestiary -- absolutely none of which were in the original game to begin with. You had to find all that stuff in the manual anyway. Personally I do wish the bestiary was translated, since the enemy flavor texts are all original to my knowledge, and often contain useful tips on how to deal with an enemy, mentioning its resistances to magic and such.However the PS1 version is uber casualized with automapping and no autosaving, so it may not be what you want for those unrelated reasons.
>>12783195>the game's entirely on English >except this and thatFuck off, so it's not
>>12783219>except [shit that wasn't in the game]Correct.
>>12783221And? Fact is the ps1 version isn't fully translated, who gives a shit about muh original game
>>12783225The mere sight of Japanese will not hurt you, there's no need to be obtuse about this. Read the manual and shut the fuck up.
Imagine having to put up with this level of artwork. Thank you basedJapan for fixing this absolutely CHOPPED game.
>>12781064The remake of 4, the Arranged Mode of 4, has the same layouts and enemies and everything, it's just a different system where instead of summoning groups of monsters, now you just summon 1 of each but you can now issue commands to them. There's also a few more monsters to pick from at each summoning level.You can also use those new monsters in the original mode using cheats. I know this because I'm the one who made all the Wizardry 4 PSX cheats.
>>12784960One day I'll get back to making cheats for the Arranged Mode of the game, so you can make your summoned monsters godlike. It was good fun breaking Original mode wide open.
>>12781050You can turn off those features on the PSX/Saturn version.
>>12787870This. You can turn also turn off all the music and effects and go back to wireframe and older monster portraits if you want. The PS1 versions also let you transfer between 1-3 and 5 on the same memory card, so that isn't even locked to the PC versions. Just read the original manuals before playing and you've basically got the same experience if you want it.
>>12781065ports/options that give spinners and warps special animations completely declaw these kind of traps. Call them tedious or unfair, but if you play versions that reveal their trick you're not playing Wizardry. Sorry.
>>12788009It's not as good. Just play the Apple II versn on an emulator.
Like many series, depends on your autism>Actual puristApple II>"Purist" but not really Any ancient PC version>I want some graphicsNES>I want some graphics but fix the fucking AC bugNES with that romhack fix>I want more graphicsPC-Engine or GBC>I want more graphics and being able to import my party between the first three gamesSuper Famicom>Even more graphics and I want to import my party to VPSone>Actually something modern and don't mind waiting for 2 and 3The recent remake>Want to shitpost about Wizardry None of them, say you're a purist and shit on all the ports and remakes. If you're even more dense say the only worthwhile Wizardry games are 6-8, and shit on all japanese spinoffs. >Don't mind some gachaWizardry Variants Daphne, but only play the smartphone version, the last time I tried the PC version it was awful
>>12789198>gachaThe phone version can barely run compared to the PC version, but I wouldn't recommend it, the equipment fear autism you have to go through it's not worth it
>>12789198the gameboy color version has massive liberties in gameplay, it's not just graphics
>>12780928https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3MyXeLQylkplay Wizardry 1 on the gameboy and if it proves too hard use the stock recruitable characters already in the game instead of creating them from scratch since the stock characters come at lv 3 iirc and make the start of the game more smooth (the other versions don't have this handy feature), remember to make your own maps with a pencil which sounds counterintuitive at first but will make the game experience so rewarding, you can't even imagine.
>>12789145Not an argument.
>>12789198One point in favor of the PSX version of Wizardry 4, they actually bothered to create a unique sky texture for when you finally reach the surface, which makes it feel even more epic after finally getting out of the nightmare that is the Cosmic Cube.
>>12780928https://www.zimlab.com/wizardry/https://github.com/snafaru/Wizardry.Code
