For about five years since the demographic shift on this board due to 6th Gen inclusion I've heard people tell me this game is horrible yet I've still never been given a single recommendation for a better exploration based 2D action/adventure game other than people who prefer classic Zelda or Igavania Must mean they're just full of shit hipster cuntrarians?
>>12784980I played and found it pretty boring compared to all actual metroidvanias, Samus's weapon is a peashooter, give me a fucking melee attack that actually damages enemies please, this js why castlevanias were always the superior 2d games to metroid
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>>12784993I've yet to play them because I was a classicvania purist, but I will one day and everyone says they're easy games so I know I'm going to be let down. I don't need a game to be balls hard to have fun but if it's easy to overpower everything in my sight I have a feeling I'll get bored fast
>>12784980I prefer Castlevania but Super Metroid is still a top 5 and possibly top 3 metroidvania for me. Sometimes I think I prefer Zero Mission but every time I replay the series it just reminds me why Super Metroid is still the best one. The wall jump is jank though and the controls aren't as refined as they are in Zero Mission, but it's still a better game overall.
>>12784980Super Metroid is literally a perfect game. Anyone who says otherwise is a faggot and you shouldn't listen to them.
Super metroid is the epitome midwit game, the final boss is especially offending as it's a cinematic like the worst modern AAA shit out there. SoTN had it beat in style and 3rd gen sandbox sidescrollers had it beat brain usage.
>>12785052>Complains about one cinematic pseudo boss after a fairly difficult real boss battle >Says SotN is better because it's visually better in their opinion despite being an easier game for the entirety of itDoesn't make sense brah
>>12785058>fairly difficult real boss battleWhich one? It was just all just flail around floaty shitSotn is just as easy as Super metroid but mechanically and aesthetically it's just on another level, it's just a good fuck around game while idgaf about replaying metroid.
>>12785065You have to dodge mother brain, I usually score like 70 percent of secrets which is basically, I would say, fairly thorough but not finding everything tier, which is enough for me to handle every boss but with that amount of health and missiles even, mother brain warrants carefully positioning and dodging cause her shit will zap all the health tanks and use up all the missiles quickly. Those rings are annoying as hell Maybe it's just me because I've seen people complain about Ridley being harder, but it can't be because I can pretty much brute force Ridley but the brain i have to actually fight to not die
>>12784993the default weapon is supposed to be lame, that's why you need missiles and upgrades. that's basically the whole point of the game, get more shit be more stronger
>>12785136even then it still feels like an euro run 'n gun, melee works better for the genre as it keeps the action tight despite the loose map exploration, shooting is better reserved to actual run 'n gun games
>>12785065NTA but I'm pretty sure he's referring to the Ridley fight, which is the last boss fight before Tourian.IDK nigga it just sounds like you don't like SM, which is fine.>floaty shitThat's an opinion, not really a criticism. I think Samus is really fun to move. If you watch a speed-run for this game, it is crazy just how much and how quickly someone is able to travel across the map.>Sotn is mechanically and aesthetically just on another levelSOTN is a beautiful game, but not very artistically cohesive. SM is much more natural feeling in its world design. Visually, Crateria connects seamlessly to Brinstar, which naturally connects to Norfair, etc.. Aesthetically, its just so overpowering in its weird atmosphere. It feels much more like a real place. SM is one of the only games to truly immerse me in its world.
You can only do so much with 4mb tiles, 2 layers of parallax and the snes colors and sprite limitations, it's like saying X nes game is impressive but objectively it isn't really comparable.
>>12785058SotN is easier but the final boss also isn't a fucking cutscene
Everything is shit nowadays, and everyone is a liar. Take diet advice for example, if you do the opposite and a bit of exercise you too can have visible abs next summer.
It's a very good game and very influential.The problem came with picrel. This unreasonably hyped the game for years into a thing it never was.I never met another person who called Super Metroid "The greatest video game of all time." between 1994 and 2001, I'm not sure how EGM came to this conclusion, I don't really care.After EGM #150, there are people who never fucking played SM explaining how great it is. Then, naturally, there is pushback to this online and everyone starts assuming if you're praising SM, you're a poser parroting someone else's opinion. Contrarianism also heavily plays into it, it's a knee-jerk reaction to shit on something everyone is glazing.A young person trying Super Metroid today who expects the GOAT is going to be severely disappointed. It just isn't that. It wasn't then, it's not now. So they will give a response to it that feels as if they were let down or disappointed. Adding to the aura of negativity SM gets online.
>>12785038Fucky shinesparks and wall jump compared to the later games thoughbeit.
>>12785279Nail on the head with that EGM issue.I got SM when it was new and I did think it was the greatest of all time (I don’t anymore) so I was happy to see it there… but as you said it created this unrealistic expectation.It’s the atmosphere and adventure that makes it so good. It felt spooky as a kid, which was cool. If you look up where anything is or where to go on a first playthrough as I assume many do now, it’ll probably be boring as shit.
>>12785409The game is pretty A to B for the most part, you had more of a sense of freedom and disorientation in stuff like Legacy of the wizard, Milon's Secret Castle, Clash at demonhead, Metal gear, Castlequest, Phantom 2040, or say the og metroid.
Megaman shits on Metroid. lol @ if you like Super Metroid.
>>12784980I love Metroid, but Super doesn't even crack my top 3. I'd much rather replay Fusion or Zero Mission or AM2R.I don't have anything against Super or think it's terrible, but when people play Super and only Super and refuse to play anything else because the other games are "awful" because they aren't EXACTLY the same as Super Mission, I really roll my eyes.
>>12785875>>12785875I enjoy all the 2D titles but I do agree that ZM and Fusion are too linear, still great games but they basically tell you where to go, and for me the feeling of exploring was part of why I rank SM higher personally >>12785279In 1994 I would have told you Sonic 2 was the greatest of all time, and in 2001 I probably would have said Twisted Metal Black. I can confidently say SM is a better designed game than either as an adult.>>12785223Again you're saying SM is bad based on the "final boss" being a pseudo boss, which is the dinosaur form of Mother Brain Ok, yeah it's basically an interactive cinematic moment. All that means is the real final boss is the actual MB fight before the transformation, which is harder than anything in SotN.
>>12786083>Again you're saying SM is badLiterally no one is saying this. American millennial tendies have such a persecution complex lmfao
>>12786224I'm a Genesis kid, Indian Zoomoid Snoy. You're gonna have to lurk a few more years to understand not everyone who likes any games at all from Nintendo are tendies. I'm not a Nintendo fanboy whatsoever but you're just lying if you say there's no Nintendo games you enjoy at all, just like Tendies are lying when they claim no good games exist outside of Nintendo
>>12786250That's the thing Metroid doesn't have many equivalents, so it makes the anti Nintendo dudes short circuitIt's not like Zelda or Mario where you can compare it to fifty other games
>>12786269Or maybe it's just boring shit for midwits
>>12784980flashback for sega genesis is better. symphony of the night is better. heart of darkness is better.
>>12786450Explain how SotN is better because I'm not even acknowledging the other two.As far as I can tell SotN is just Super Metroid on easy mode with useless RPG mechanics
>>12786648And I'll add to this, you definitely can't beat the real Castlevania games if SM is too hard for you.
>>12786648>I'm not even acknowledging the other two.you’re a poophead
>>12784980>never been given a single recommendation for a better exploration based 2D action/adventure gametry literally any game made in the last 20 years. it's the most overdone genre because it appeals to faggot redditors with no skill.
>>12786648why troidtards think their shitty game is remotely difficult? and the rpg stuff in sotn add a lot more variety which is the whole point of these games, not to mention it has more than twice the enemy types and bosses
>>12786386every videogame is for midwits you fucking faggot. intellectuals don't waste their time with low brow consumer entertainment.
>>12786861>me, an intellectual with a ghostwritten negro's book on my coffee table
>>12786656If I was a redditor I'd know modern gaming but I don't, because I'm in my 30s not just here to discuss "old games" for the lols>>12786738>Variety is the point of gamesNo it's literally never the point. The only points to a game are challenge, test of skill, and sens of progression through action, aka meaningful dopamine drip.
>>12786738the bait is that if you're championing SotN you immediately lose the "skill based game" cred because that crowd likes classic castlevania only and view Iga as a franchise destroying blasphemy that brought it to casuals
>>12786250>Indian Zoomoid SnoyExtreme projection.>you're just lying if you say there's no Nintendo games you enjoy at allHoly shit, did you even read my post? Literally NO ONE is saying Super Metroid is bad.
>>12787510>The only points to a game are challenge, test of skillthen why you wank over shitroid so much, sounds like you've never beat an actual challenging game in your life
>>12787525NTA, SotN isn't hard but it's infinitely harder than Sooper Sloptroid which literally plays itself in the final boss. There's a reason the genre only became popular with SotN on the PlayStation, it's because only the diehard SNES drones gave a shit about Metroid, nobody else cared and the series never sold well. SotN came out, raped Metroid, established the genre, and then you SNES drones got jealous and started trying to pretend Metroid was ever relevant. This is also what happened with you fags when FF7 came out.
>>12787525already said both metroid and sotn are easy but sotn has way more reedeming value to it. you trying to pass super faggoid as some sort challenging game is the joke here
First time I beat Super metroid I died once or twice? First time I beat sotn I definitely died more times, even if the game can be trivialized it definitely requires more learning and testing than metroid
>>12784980you haven't got a sarcasm detector, i see.
>>12787542>buzzword buzzword slop faggot lmao rektCan you say anything meaningful about the games at all, or are you just going to keep slinging insults like the retarded manchild you are.
>>12787528You admitted to not being American and not being Millennial. That means foreign and zoomer>>12787542Yeah this post shows that the poster is someone who wasn't alive before fifth Gen, likely wasn't even then.More cringe zoomers clinging to "le ebin late 90s and early 00s" may may. Let me guess you buy reissued jnco jeans that I actually wore when they were in fashion, but I was 13, and you're in your 20s already having an early life identity crisis News flash, SotN is NOT in any way a remembered psx game. It sold less than SM did, so your entire made up argument is false because you're assuming shit you didn't live through SotN is basically exactly like Super Metroid, it wasn't a smash hit, it was a moderate success that developed a cult following when my age group got older.The games actually that were big hits on PlayStation? Crash, Spyro , Tomb Raider, Twisted Metal, Tekken, and games like Tenchu and Soul Reaver were actually the games kids obsessed over at the time Posers always out themselves with false made up fantasies
>>12788175Also FF7 is a faggot game for virgins, every game on my chart is better and there isn't a FF7 queer I couldn't kick the shit out of and fuck their mother
>>12784980I only played this game 3 years ago and I think it's worth the hype
>>12788175It's literally all because SotN had a shitty Netflix tranime that zoomers liked five years ago
>>12788185Fuck zoomers
No one played either sotn nor super metroid at the time, it's all zoomer larp revisionism, if anything the og metroid was more of a big deal
>>12788185>SotN was NEVER popular until 5 years agojfc
