Is there any bigger example of people having no idea how the fuck to design a console?
>>12785394I'm sure it's dog shit but it looks like the kind of thing I would have begged my mom to buy if I saw it in stores, possibly to the point of crying like a little bitch.
>>12785394This (unreleased) monstrosity encased the SuperGrafx, it's also pretty rad.
>>12785394Good luck trying to sell something in the 70s that didn't have a steering wheel and a revolver.
most manly console ever made
>>12785394it's missing a cup holder for a whiskey glass
>>12785394The more I think about it the more I realize fake wood grain was the start of everything being fake and cheap.
>No door on the cartridge port to prevent dust getting in.>Number pad on the controller.>Release a CD add-on.>Which also doesn't have a dust cover on the cartridge slot.The number pad controller was a bad idea when it came out on the Intellivision, but you can see the reasoning. It's the 1980's, it's early days, what are people more familiar with that has a lot of button? TV remotes and phones. Why the fuck you would ever return to this idea in the 1990's for your standard controller is beyond me.And even if they couldn't have a dust cover that folds down, which you should fucking design your cartridge based console around having, have one that folds up.
>>12785761The lack of dust cover on the add-on is kind of a secondary problem to how incredibly badly those were designed and put together. MASSIVE failure rate on the Jaguar CD.
>>12785761>>12785787Just leave one cartridge always on the console.You're not a weirdo that removes the cartridge after you're done playing, are you?
>>12785787Obviously the high failure rate of the Jaguar CD is the much bigger problem, but to me, the continued lack of a dust cover is just so much more emblematic of "We don't know what the fuck we're doing."
>>12786047None of Atari's consoles ever had a dust cover for the cartridge port.
>>12785761Putting a numberpad on a controller for a 1993 console was beyond retardedGen 2 systems had the excuse of home console gaming still being new and nobody really having a good idea of what kind of inputs you might potentially need for a controller intended to work with thousands of different games, hell, they didn't even have directional inputs figured out yet with joysticks, knobs, and weird circular disks among others all being attempted. They probably figured having too many buttons and not using them all was better than having too little like the Atari 2600 had and it was likely simple and cheap to just slap some phone-style numberpad on there just to have a series of buttons. By 1993 though there was zero excuse. This was after the release of the NES, SNES, SMS, Genesis, Gameboy, Gamegear, TurboGrafx, Neo-Geo, 3DO, even their own fucking Atari Lynx. Their controller even had ABC and the equivalent of start/select buttons on it... yet they still put a numberpad on it! They clearly never had an idea how to make a controller, from the 2600 having one button, to the abomination that was the 5200, to the 7800 that... was basically a 2600 controller with two buttons.Just what was the thought process with the Jaguar controller? "Ok sir, we basically just copied the Sega Genesis controller, but also added a select button." "Hmm, still not enough" "Well, we could add shoulder buttons like the SNES, or 6 buttons instead of 3 like the Genesis fighting controller, or-" "No no, just slap a numberpad on it" "... you mean like the 5200?" "Exactly!"
>>12785394>>12786232
>>12786338>OUR CONSOLE IS SO POWERFUL AND SO MODERN IT'LL BE ABLE TO DO SO MUCH MORE THAN THE SUPER SHITENDO AND SEGAY GAYNESIS WE'LL NEED WAY MORE BUTTONS THAN THESE GARBAGE CONSOLESor something like this
>>12785394That console has everything. I bet it was pretty cool for a hot moment before cartridges came along.
>>12786054Atari was the ak47 of consoles. Would never jam even when caked in mud or peanutbutter and jelly.
>>12787858>before cartridges came along.
>>12785630>fake wood grain was the start of everything being fake and cheapyoure thinking of the day bakelite was invented
>>12785394My jaw dropped after I did see it(this is a good thing).>>12785401> but it looks like the kind of thing I would have begged my mom to buy if I saw it in stores,Basically this.The idea is super cool and above the>Literally a Xbox controlleror>Literally a SNES controllerconsoles we got.However I see some problems while the cartridge looks super cool the console has that 70s brown going on and that is a no go.Also after seeing a review of it it is a 70s console meaning the driving games look like this!And that is a shame. If that thing was released in the 80s it be a killer idea.The only problem I see here is 1) Combining a controller and console has the problem that if the controller breaks you need to service the entire console.2) Because it is from the 70s the driving games can not utilize the control system.
>>12786338>>Just what was the thought process with the Jaguar controller? "Ok sir, we basically just copied the Sega Genesis controller, but also added a select button." "Hmm, still not enough" "Well, we could add shoulder buttons like the SNES, or 6 buttons instead of 3 like the Genesis fighting controller, or-" "No no, just slap a numberpad on it" "... you mean like the 5200?" "Exactly!"I like to see the Atari devs talking about their ideas.If you play their games you realize they are the most 70s creative people out there or the most schizo.So the game is about penguins who need to go from A to B. So you first slap the mushroom for the apples to fall. Then you feed the apples to the spiders and harvest their eggs to build bridges.Have a look:https://youtu.be/3LVcvkLCUtU?t=154
>>12785394That thing probably sold pretty well based on the appearance. It was a 20th century thing, you wouldn't understand.
>>12785394I never knew or would have guessed that this thing took cartridges.
>>12788085The funny part is that the cartridges were the actual console, containing different MPS-7600 games-on-a-chip microcontrollers. The shell was there for I/O.
>>12785394Come on anon. This was the 1970s. Your complaint isn't valid.
>>12785761>>12786338>>12786780>>12787901The reason for the number pad on the Jaguar was Doom. You could swap to any weapon immediately, like on PC. Having to scroll through the the weapons one at a time to get to the one you wanted was a genuine pain in other console ports.
>>12788453It was not intended for DOOM, the Jaguar predates DOOM
>>12785394Looks like a good setup for racing and light gun games at least
>>12788464Looks like I was wrong then. Still, I imagine it would have been a handy feature. I remember getting killed in other console ports of Doom while awkwardly scrolling through my weapons to get to the one I wanted while in the middle of a fight.
>>12788453>The reason for the number pad on the Jaguar wasIt was so you could call Intergalactic Fuckernauts or Astrobastards just like the 5200
>>12788571That was nice until Atari closed down the spacephone service, so all you get now is a dial-tone.
>>12788453>The reason for the number pad on the Jaguar was Doom.I believe you are right. I always assumed this and it makes sense.
>>12788464OhRight
>>12788453>The reason for the number pad on the Jaguar was Doom. You could swap to any weapon immediately, like on PC. Having to scroll through the the weapons one at a time to get to the one youInteresting.I never used that controller and probably never will. Was it comfortable to use the numberpad? These buttons look awfully tiny and I think a more PC looking numpad with big buttons would be better. No?>Having to scroll through the the weaponsI am a PC gamer however would the use of a weapons wheel not solve this? 6 Weapons and even with a D-pad you can get a 8 weapons wheel.
>>12789421> I am a PC gamer however would the use of a weapons wheel not solve this?Weapon wheels hadn't been invented yet, they're a modern-game thing. In most console ports of Doom, if you had the handgun equipped, and you wanted to switch to the chaingun, you'd have pull out the shotgun first, then the chaingun. The GBA port fixes this somewhat by letting you skip weapons by rapidly tapping the weapon switch button. If the handgun is equipped, pressing the next weapon button once would pull out the shotgun, but if you quickly tapped it twice, you'd go from the handgun straight to the chaingun. It wasn't ideal.
