Why were people so convinced video games (violent ones) were demonic? Other pieces of media back in the day weren't criticized so harshly.I have my own theories but I really want to know what was it that made video games so much worse than even the most grotesque Clive Barker movies.
oh rock music too
Music had the RIAA to push the Parental Warning stickers, so parents couldn't pretend they 'accidentally' bought hardcore gangsta rap for their kids. Funny story there involving Insane Clown Posse and Disney Music, google it up for a laugh.Movies had the MPAA who enforced the ratings and demanded theaters not let kids in to see R-rated movies, so parents couldn't pretend they 'accidentally' took little Jonny to see Hellraiser.Television was ruled by the FCC, so nothing objectionable was getting onto the airwaves. Radio had the same deal. Comics were covered by the CCA since the 1950's, and the new wave of adult comics were all clearly labeled as such, with comic shop owners knowing they couldn't sell those titles to children.But videogames at the time were a new medium that wasn't governed or regulated for content, and was mostly directed at children. So they went after videogames until the industry came up with their own ratings, and that was the end of it.
It's just your typical parents blaming the latest thing that their kids are into as evil and satanic because they dare to be more interested in it than whatever drivel they are trying to force on their kids instead because that's what they did as kids.Happened with D&D, and with rock music, and with comic books, etc, etc.Just look at this nonsense: https://youtu.be/BSnhhPITqX4?t=538Hell, go far enough and there are reports of people complaining about the fucking NEWSPAPER becoming commonly read by everyone.
>>12786378None of what you described is any different than the advent of age ratings on games. All of those were "unregulated" at first and then started putting warnings on them after whiny people complained, videogames were no different, all of those were the scary new thing that parents did not understand so they demonized it.
'Cause they are.
Because Video games and games in general are seen as kids toys and nothing more, the concept of a game appealing to anyone but kids was a foreign concept to most politicians and shit.>Other pieces of media back in the day weren't criticized so harshly.You weren't there, music faced controversy all the time, particularly metal and hip hop. Movies also faced controversy, as the 80s and 90s had a lot of graphic horror movies come out. And yes, even comics and cartoons faced controversy for the same reason at around the same time, comics were getting a bit dark and violent and puritans shat themselves at that, not to mention the 90s was a post Simpsons world where everyone had an aneurysm about Bart Simpson... and of course Anime was also coming to the west, and that was another can of worms.
>>12786353At least we were able to rent movies uncensored. UK and Oz were worse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_nasty
>>12786332TIME STANDING STILL AND MY RED DEVIL'S FLYING!CATCH ME IF YOU CAN!!!!
>>12786332>Why were people so convinced video games (violent ones) were demonic?It's a running theme in certain kinds of religious and political fundamentalism, you can demonize certain popular art and media to rile up certain people to support you out of fear and anxiety.Outrage can have some level of power, in some contexts, and that can be exploited. Outrage can also be manufactured.>Other pieces of media back in the day weren't criticized so harshly.No, plenty was. Pokémon wasn't even very violent but it got swept up in stuff like that, and there was a huge thing about it with Dungeons & Dragons, and then rock and heavy metal music for a very long time.The right kinds of charlatans would play up this stuff plenty, and the right kind of person would fall for it, eating out of their hand. Usually this was done for simple money, but some used it for greater political ambitions.This subject really stretches well past just Retro Videogames though, and I feel that this discussion isn't going to stay on rails for very long.>>12786378>and that was the end of it.For the very most part, anyway. Later on you have things like that expanded on the subject of gambling in videogames, creating content ratings and rules for that stuff in many countries. You're still having the same conversations about that with lootboxes and stuff in modern games.Unlike much of the older moral panic, I think there's a bit more substance to the gambling question. I don't mean Pokémon having slot machines in their games for a while, that was never a serious problem (in big part because of the hard and practical limits on what you can gain from it there, it stays very controlled and confined), but more the lootbox stuff and microtransaction stuff in modern games.Modern games are Not Retro, however.>>12786353Not even remotely confined to just the Burgers, this shit is all over the world in different forms.
>>12786332American protties are batshit insane
>>12786540>AmericanNah they all are.
>>12786332>Other pieces of media back in the day weren't criticized so harshly.do more research, lazy zoom
>>12786332>Devil>6 pointed starWas AMD redpilled all along? And Intel even has sites in Israel.
>>12786657The Seal of Solomon and Star of David are similar but different.
>>12786663Seal of Solomon is just retconned Jewish nonsense. Star of David was invented in the 1700s.
>>12786332you have to remember, people genuinely believed back then that there was a, hidden in plain sight, satanic cult doing some bad shit involving children. there is SOME merit to these claims: https://youtu.be/6B6yfmeqSxM?si=ituEtGRmhz-9ZpEz&t=141https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5BmVFEuzYkhttps://youtu.be/6ZwxHlWfIxM?si=aC2q6M9MikAmkBIyBUT, you also had the mainstream media hyping up the story for views, and giving the stage to anyone, riling up people along the way:https://youtu.be/hKHsmIeBb28?si=m6T6LDct5XVg3Ia6so now you have a traumatized population, on edge, and if they see something even remotely resembling a luciferian symbolism. there going to freak out. quote from Trevor fucking Moore: >What if governments learned from the MKUltra experiments in the 50's that trauma allows you to control people, so they purposely orchestrate disastrous events to keep their citizens afraid + dependent on them, and that's one of the reasons that mental illness has been rising? lol
I PLAYED A VIDEO GAME ONCE AND NOW I AM SATAN THE DECEIVER
>>12786332christian here. stuff like this can potentially be a factor of possession, but at that point you'd have a bigger problem than video games if you're that spiritually fragile.of course, "violent" is pretty loose a term with video games. it would have to be pretty extreme i guess.i remember some paranoia around Doom because the setup is demonic, there's also fascination, but there too you'd have a bigger problem than media. a friend of mine listens to metal of all kinds and is a practicing christian. he just doesn't care.if you're concerned with this kind of stuff it means you're religious and raising your kids with values that won't make them permeable to satanic fascination anyway, so i don't really see the point of making violent games illegal. also atheists won't need violent games to become possessed either...>>12786786it's over
>>12786332>Other pieces of media back in the day weren't criticized so harshly.People were literally shitting themselves and passing out because of Rosemary's Baby and the Excorcist
>>12786332Satancucks are the dumbest people on the planet.
>>12786332it really wasnt as bad as the name and memes would suggest. there was a push by certain officials to regulate this kind of stuff, especially after Columbine, but it was never really taken seriously in the gaming world, nothing really changed. it was just some boomers that wanted to talk and hear themselves speak. fake outrage, that was just as common back then as it is now. certainly had a certain subset of people that latched onto it (extremely religious types), but even my family which was fairly religious didn't give two shits about violence in video games, probably because my dad was also a nerd who liked video games and he understood what they were.
>>12786736Man, what kind of person do you have to be to come up with something like this?
>>12786332The music industry was (and is) a 1000 times more satanic than vidya could ever hope to be, but because it's more established, people tend to give it the pass and instead jumped to accuse the new medium in the block
>>12786332>Why were people so convinced video games (violent ones) were demonic?because it was new and 80 IQ evangelicals used to be a much more influential cultural force in the 80s/90s
>>12786332>Other pieces of media back in the day weren't criticized so harshlyBro my little pony, smurfs, and dungeons and dragons was criticized harshly in the 80s and you think Doom and Mortal Kombat weren't? Not to mention Pokemon and Harry Potter after
>>12788784Now we have sub 80 IQ libs saying Rogue needs a man body fukkk you lmao
>>12788789Christian Boomers>Don't show sex drugs and gore to kidsModern liberals >Show sex but only gay sex, tell them they're evil if they're not black, and cut their dicks off Yeah....
>>12788789touched a nerve i see
>>12788796Well, you're nerve is eternally touched. You're not a rebel you're the institution. I'm the rebel
>>12788805>n-no u!really showing off that 80 IQ with your replies aren't ya christkike?> You're not a rebel you're the institution. I'm the rebellmao. are you one of those incels that say being conservative is the new punk?
It's ironic how the kids who made fun of soccer moms for believing videogames and cartoons could influence behavior grew up to say the same shit
>>12786332>Other pieces of media back in the day weren't criticized so harshly.They were. Video games didn't even get the worst of it. Music and D&D had it much worse.
>>12786378The music industry's whining about those sticks was such a crock. They WERE playing around with and referencing things they knew were considered heretical to a large amount of the public, but they played like it was just having a laugh. When they very clearly were trying to be edgy in a way to appeal to teenagers who bought into the act.
>>12788849>They WERE playing around with and referencing things they knew were considered heretical to a large amount of the public, but they played like it was just having a laugh.It'd depend on who was writing what. Twisted Sister's Burn In Hell is very clear in its lyrics, hell is awful, and if you're a bad person you need to change your ways before it's too late, or else you'll burn in hell.
>>12788805You’re the RABBLE
>>12788854Look up Venom and see if you can say the same about them.
>>12788880That's why I said it depends.
>>12786736It's called the star of Remphan, a Canaanite symbol that dates back to the early iron age.
>>12788809it's been SO tiring seeing pearl-clutchnig incels on this site cry day in and day out about how satanic and demonic everything is
>>12786775>people genuinely believed back then that there was a, hidden in plain sight, satanic cult doing some bad shit involving childrenfunny you say this after that recent reckless ben video on that exact thing
>>12786332I think it's just something about that generation of Americans. They used to label everything as satanic and evil. The last one I ever heard about was Pokemon and Yugioh, it seems like it stopped after that.
>>12788809That's not unusual across the social and political spectrum, tons of people who rallied against censorship 30+ years ago are lefties who were ecstatic to be able to become the censors themselves later.Some oppose censorship because they have an ideological opposition towards curtailing speech and expression, and then, some people oppose censorship simply because they think the wrong things are censored, and instead wants to be the censors in charge. Be careful with who you ally with, the enemy of your enemy isn't always your friend.>>12788910Who the fuck earnestly calls shit demonic besides zoomer tradlarpers and popchristians on /v/, /pol/, and Xitter?
>>12788951We had that shit in Europe as well.
>>12788959So Europeans are just as retarded as Americans? That's unfortunate.
>>12788951It wasn't everyone from that generation in the 90s though. At least where I lived, you'd only ever hear about it rarely from a few ultra religious parents. It was something most people laughed about. In some regions it was probably more widespread.
>>12788960Not quite as retarded but pretty close. The world is retarded
>>12788951nah, even in latam there were people who thought pokemon and the like were demonic and stuff, although it was more of televangelists grifting
>>12788960America as a nation was primarily built by a various European settlers, so we're largely cut from all the same bolts of cloth to begin with. Same strengths, and same weaknesses.English and German is pretty predominant for most of the nation, but you can see strong presences of others in various regions. California is very Spanish (even belonged to Mexico once), Louisiana is very French (Napoleon sold that colony to the Americans), there's a lot of Greek around parts of Ohio, and Texas was particularly German, with quite a lot of Czech and others.All of those influences tend to be felt in the regional cuisines.>>12788963Also true.
>>12788886If it depends, then that means it was true.
>>12788979>America as a nation was primarily built by a various European settlers, so we're largely cut from all the same bolts of cloth to begin with. Same strengths, and same weaknesses.true but with very important differences. the europeans that came here were the ones that were considered too crazy for them and that's been reflected in our decidedly different morals
>>12789002Such an oversimplification that it's not even worth talking about, America wasn't just nothing but puritan pilgrims at all times.
>>12788979Lol this idiot tried to explain shit no one will read or care about and thinks someone is asking a genuine question
>>12789014I read it, I care.
>>12789015You can't read
>>12789008>America wasn't just nothing but puritan pilgrims at all times.no but their uptightness about many things still survive to this day. also the extreme exploitation angle we have in many aspects of our society came from their view on work.
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