>>12787970
No
You don't need to do it to beat the game, you only do it to play the hyper competitive pvp with other sweats, most people you would play with locally would be casuals, let alone in all that time you could be playing other games and KoF specifically expects you to learn 3 characters instead of 1.
For fighting games best is just to learn what is universally shared among most of them and call it a day.

>>12787970
Yes. Investing in one game alone gives great payoff once you feel you have a firm grip on the game and the characters you play. You will have immense satisfaction from even matches where you pull out everything you have practised and come out on top. Those matches will(!) come if you stick to a game. It comes down to willpower. Most people never get to the point in a fighting game where these matches become more frequent. Player count matters, but more important than that, choose a game you think looks cool. Yeah some games require discord, fightcade etc. Consider how much effort you are willing to make your game work for you. But don't be too discouraged. Getting matches through social interaction is not that big of an obstacle as many claim. Unless you're a soiboi beta cuck. It's well worth it to invest into a game or two. The highs are really really high, but require some time spent before they come.

>>12787970
I just play them all casually by myself, fighting against CPU opponents in the singleplayer modes, it's pretty fun.

>>12787970
if you enjoy the process of incrementally improving at something challenging by devoting time to getting better at it every day or nearly every day, and if you find a game you like the feel of enough to dedicate yourself to that process for it, and if you're not scared of taking several ass whippings a day for the first few weeks or months before you get good enough to consistently win, then it's worth trying.
otherwise, fighting games are not for you and you should play something else.
getting good at fighting games is most comparable to getting good at a musical instrument. without consistent practice, honest self-assessment, and the grit to put yourself in situations you are not yet ready to handle over and over until you grow to match the, you will always be ass. it's a significant commitment, some would say too big of one for a plastic toy.

>>12787982
>playing against CPUs in a fighting game
you didn't beat the game. frankly you didn't even really play it.
Fighting games are inherently PvP affairs. The CPUs are just there to give you something to do while you wait for another opponent to put quarters up.
the mindgaming aspect of FGs is a core component of their identity and of what makes them fun. You can't condition or outsmart an input-reading bot.

>>12788208
I agree but playing the CPU is still more fun to me than putting on Mario or something when I have time to kill becauuse I actually just like fighting games in every aspect

I'm always suspect of people who claim they do nothing but play pvp, because I don't imagine the level of earnest dedication that people who've actually been playing for years since the 90s have, none of us have that attitude

>>12788208
cope & seethe & dilate

>>12788214
For me playing the CPU is warming up confirms and shit if I do it at all. Now and then an arcade run can be a fun little time waster.
No idea what you're on about with the rest, though. I've been going to locals and shit for many years now and that level of dedication absolutely does exist in good measure even today. My regional 3S scene has dudes grinding out games every night of the week.
>>12788221
project & project & project

>>12788208
Quite the opposite, if you exclusively played pvp you in fact did not beat the game, as you never beat the final boss and got to see the ending and credits

>>12788234
What I'm saying is, people who are veterans aka, not people who picked up the genre in the last 15 years but were playing in the heyday, usually don't share the opinion that "the ONLY thing to enjoy is pvp"

That entire attitude seems to come from new school kids who got into it through the Internet algorithm

>>12788241
This so much, back in the day no one give a shit about pvp, we were all busy playing arcade mode and unlocking all the secret characters

>>12788237
cope.
only casuals give a shit about seeing the credits of a fighting game. People who actually play them are looking to scrap with strong opponents and pull off sick shit against another human being
>>12788241
I can't speak for every game but no, you are not correct with regard to 3S and to an extent Super Turbo. The oldheads aren't there to play the CPU, they're there to play other people.
I don't know where you got all these ideas from but they aren't rooted in reality

>>12788241
that's because zoomers have low attention spans. their experience was looking up "best fighting game" on youtube, looking up a git gud quick video on youtube, and playing it online alone in between whatever massive multiplayer meme shooters are popular. they don't have the experience of the series or genre basically taking over their life or renting a fighting game and playing every aspect of it for a weekend because it's literally the only new thing to play because you're on physical non pirated media and spending allowance

>>12788243
no, people absolutely cared. you just weren't around those people. you were casually mashing on tekken 3 at your friend's house a few times before you all dropped it and moved on to something else.
believe it or not, that experience did not in fact fully inform you as to why fighting games were huge in the 90s and still have a solid niche to this day.

>>12788245
Old heads have been playing since the early 90s, most of us were pretty young, trust me we've beaten all these games and can have hours long conversations about bosses and unlockable shit etc, you're just not part of those conversations

Like no shit pvp is the main appeal but we were all actually fans, not just chasing e sports clout, that didn't exist back then.

>>12788245
You didn't fight the final boss
You didn't see the ending
You didn't unlock every character
Your experience of the game is incomplete and you didn't beat the game

>>12788241
Playing against the CPU isn't even enjoyable. The fun of a fighting game comes from outwitting another person who is actively trying to do the same to you.
Oh wow I abused jump back teleport punch to cheese the input reading MK3 bot. sooooo fun

>>12788254
my man you're not gonna larp well enough to fool someone who was actually there. you ain't that guy. give it a rest.

>>12788257
you did cope.
you did cope.
you did cope.
you didn't even play the game.

>>12788259
You only have this mentality because you played them in the modern era, times were different.

Trust me the only thing that rivaled Pokemon secrets in the late 90s was shit like finding Akuma or Reptile in the early 90s. You just played these games all the time, with friends, alone, your attitude is a modern one is the point.

>>12788261
You're the same third strike zoomer who always argues false revisionist history of the 90s. I'll post my ID again while you can't, you weren't gaming in the 90s guy

Oh boy another fighting games thread on /vr/. I can't wait to see 300 posts of the two or three people on this board who actually play fighting games arguing with a sea of retards who don't know what they're talking about. Le sigh.

>>12788261
Third Strike also came out in a time when 2D fighting was dead and only became majorly popular in the 2010s, so do the math. It attracted a lot of modern gamers getting into the genre for the first time as adults

>>12787970
What you do is try lots of different games until you find a character you like who is also top tier in that game, and then you can actually win matches. And then that becomes your favorite game and you defend it on the internet.

>>12788267
I was playing these games on cab in the 90s. probably before you even left your daddy's nutsack. playing other people was always the focus, cpu was to kill time between challengers or to goof around. shit like reptile and akuma were cool but only casuals cared about them to the exclusion of actually playing other people.
>>12788269
txisthereason on fightcade. that's the account I use these days.
your turn. let's see if you actually do it this time.

>>12788279
my man, moment 37 was in 2004. the Kuroda DVDs were from 07 after that dude had been whipping everyone's ass for years prior. regardless of its larger popularity or lack thereof there has always been a dedicated competitive scene for 3rd.

>>12788265
I did play the game, the way the devs intended unlike you who only played the game using only one character and fighting randoms in only one of the game modes ignoring the main mode, you didn't beat the game and your experience of the game is incomplete.

>>12788291
cope.
from vanilla SF2 onward the devs intended for people to play each other. that's why they bothered to attempt balancing shit for competitive play (irrespective of how successful that was in the early going) and why the CPU opponents are all controlled by the most basic conditional scripts that would make them function as opponents.

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>>12788294
Yeah that's why all those games have story modes, unlockables and are incredibly poorly balanced, cope more zoomer

>>12788296
>story mode
>posts screenshot of a game with no story mode
what did he mean by this?

>>12788303
Arcade/Story mode you know fighing a row opponents until you fight the big boss, something that can't happen in pvp

>>12788296
everybody knows that early attempts at balance were a crapshoot. that doesn't change the fact that each revision of SF2, SFA, and SF3 came with balance adjustments, as did UMK3. it was clearly a primary goal of the devs even if they didn't always get it right.
MvC2 was an asset flip for the Naomi board. it's kusoge. characters were unlocked by uptime and activity on the original cab to keep people coming back.
see this is how I know you never were a part of this shit outside of mashing casually with your friends. your frame of reference is very clearly console versions. the actual culture of FGs and how they were played was born and lived in the arcade. in the arcade people played each other. your sad only child ass overrepresents the importance of vs CPU play because it's all you had.

>>12788305
the thing devs put into the game to entice you to put your quarter in and play even if you didn't have an opponent at the ready? the thing that gets interrupted and outprioritized by PVP the moment a second player puts a quarter in and presses start?
yeah sure sounds like the devs really meant for you to play against the CPU. so much so that they throw away your current CPU match on the same frame the other guy joins in. yeah that sounds like their primary focus.
dumbass.

>>12788312
>the thing devs put into the game to entice you to put your quarter in and play even if you didn't have an opponent at the ready?
Here is a crazy thought? Maybe he si talking about consoles?

>>12788309
>each revision fixed mistakes
And guess what each revision added more playable characters to unlock and secrets, even
>no you see the few poors still playing games in the dying arcades were the actual community and target audience not the big majority of people playing them in their houses or the arcade killing house consoles
>in the arcade people played each other
Yeah guess what people can do that in their homes too, you would know that if you had friends and didn't had to rely on strangers lmao.
>>12788312
The thing that's the first option in every game, the thing that lets you know more about the characters and the game's world, the thing that unlocks more things, the thing that makes you fight the final boss, the thing that makes you beat the game.
You can talk about all the gay old times you had at the local arcade with strangers but you didn't beat the game.

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>>12788296
calling arcade mode a story mode is pretty disingenuous. It's just a genre staple because SF did it but it's generally nothing but random battles with no rhyme or reason until the boss fight, if the game has a boss. MvC2 is an especially bad example because they couldn't even be bothered to make character endings

Now some console ports of some games did attempt to do better because they were trying to be competitive within the whole sphere of gaming like SFA3 or the SC series, but honestly it's not all that great since it's still just cpu battles which will never capture the best aspects of fighting games. This is from a guy who has spent a ton of time in world tour. If you're looking for pve you're just better off with other genres, but I get it since fighting games have such strong character designs and aesthetics that many people want them to be good solo but hardly are

>>12788328
in which case he has no room to speak on what fighting game players were doing back then, because he wasn't in the arcade where they were. He was sitting his casual ass at home.
Besides, my point stands even then. In a console release, arcade mode has the same "press start on controller two to instantly throw away the current CPU match and jump into PVP" behavior.

>>12788329
>I think arcades were breathing their last breath already in the 90s
>I also want you to believe I was there
ok. I don't, but ok.

>>12788330
You make more sense than the other guy but the whole thing it's not which mode is better but which mode BEATS the game, and only the single player pve unlocks things or let's fight the final boss and eventually see any endings, you can play 100 pvp matches and win most of them but you still didn't make any progress towards the requirements for beating the game.

>>12788329
so yeah, the thing that gets tossed to the side the moment a second player hits the start button. wow yeah sure sounds like a main mode that the devs really intended to be the primary and most important way to play the game.
dumbass.

>>12788281
I played on fightcade 1, never got fc2. But when I get my shit set up we'll play, but not third Strike, I refuse to play it. You'll have to prove you're not a new Fag by playing Alpha , VS, Samurai Showdown, or KoF

Also I can't imagine someone my age or, really, much older as your timeline presents, you claim to have been an arcade pro in the early 00s which means you must have been late teen or adult, would have a zoomer country song from like 2020 as their online handle.

>>12788289
Let me tell you that nobody cared about "moment meme" back then. In 2004 I wasn't looking up shit on YouTube because YouTube didn't exist, and no , these videos were not massively circulated

>>12788294
Nobody is saying pvp isn't the main point, but people didn't JUST play pvp.

If you don't have memories of going through arcade mode taking turns unlocking shit with friends or just practicing alone before bed, you weren't alive in the 90s, it's just not a believable story.

>>12788352
gigacope.
100% you're ass at fighting games and you hyperfocus on the vs CPU shit that no actual FG player really cares about to soothe your insecurity.
you remind me of those autists who have world record speedruns in obscure shitty games that nobody else even cares to attempt like the DOS port of Contra or Barbie Explorer or whatever.
congratulations anon, you "beat the game", we're all very proud of you. when you're ready to actually start playing the game, though, you're going to need to make a friend or two.

>>12788363
>I'll post my ID and you won't
>oh wait I don't even have one because I don't play
>cope, rationalizations, failure to think clearly
good post.

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>>12788370
I meant my actual ID proving my age, faggot. Which is the only relevant thing here.

>>12788367
Real fighting gamers don't play meme strike, we're too underground to associate with YouTube led zoomers born in '97

>>12788354
If the pvp is so important why is it impossible to fight the final boss and beat the game through it? Sounds like they just needed to add that intervention in case anyone wanted to play a match in the arcade

>>12788375
wow that's fucking retarded. why would you ever think anyone would be stupid enough to do that on 4chan?
truth be told I don't even believe you're stupid enough to do that, so I don't believe that's your ID.

>>12788370
>Seething because she can't play other fighting games because like all zoomers, turd strike is the only one they learned since 2009
I laff

>>12788381
beating the boss is the most important part of the game. that's why it can be interrupted and outprioritized at any time by a second jackass walking up and hitting one button.
makes perfect sense

>>12788367
>all that seething to just accept the basic fact you need to go through the pve to beat the game
I accept your concession, no need to be so buttmad because the party mode you wasted years of your life in isn't mandatory to beat the game.

>>12788393
>no denial of being ass at fighting games
yeah I figured. enjoy "beating" the game. maybe someday you'll actually play it

>>12788352
well from that frame you're right. You can usually only "beat the game" aka see credits through arcade mode or sometimes the side pve stuff, but In general fighting game default arcade modes aren't all that difficult and somebody who's good a pvp is going to destroy pve too even if it takes a sec to get used to cpu patterns/quirks. I mean who hasn't gone through arcade just to pass time when there was nobody to play.

I supposed the relevant question is whether or not that's the main point of the genre. I would argue no which is why they put so little effort into it until they started earnestly competing with console games and even then it's a game by game basis

>>12788391
>devs made it so if you put a quarter on the machine it gives you match regardless of the situation
Yeah what did you want? That kids put their quarters and nothing happened? Now what they wasted a coin.

>>12788375
Just used an AI model to reconstruct the blanked out information. thanks for the info bro

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>>12788386
You can clearly see that it's me fagola. There's literally nothing you can do with my birthdate and if you tried to find me IRL you'd be in for a surprise that frankly I'd welcome lol

>>12788397
if PVE was the priority they would have had to wait until the current PVE match ended before they get to play. seeing as PVE is an afterthought that only exists to give a single player something to do if they don't have an opponent, it is rightfully shunted aside immediately when another player joins in.
this is exceedingly simple logic and your inability to grasp it is curious.

>>12788403
Aight come to my house so I can get out of another felony assault sentence because I have the right familial, legal, and criminal strings attached to basically get away with anything and do. Another weekend in county ain't shit to clean the board up

>>12788406
>here's a picture of the family member whose ID i took a picture of
hey alright
>i'm a tuff guy
I bet you are ;)

>>12788409
okay, I think the larp has run its course. ggs, anon.

>>12788395
Adressing all of your childish name calling and fallacies would be a waste of time, you're only further proving how dumb you're.
>well from that frame you're right. You can usually only "beat the game" aka see credits through arcade mode or sometimes the side pve stuff, but In general fighting game default arcade modes aren't all that difficult and somebody who's good a pvp is going to destroy pve too even if it takes a sec to get used to cpu patterns/quirks
Exactly, all true which makes being mad about it even more stupid, this super hardcore gaymer can easily go beat the game in seconds if he wants. I just stated a fact, you don't need to spend days learning a character or even touch the pvp to beat the game.
>>12788408
Or maybe they couldn't program that, newer games removed that anyway, fact remains you can't beat the game just playing pvp.

>>12788417
>>12788396

>>12788417
>the things I value are the things everyone values
ok

>>12788234
>My regional 3S scene has dudes grinding out games every night of the week
What a larp. Fightcade isn't a regional scene bro

>>12788406
Based unc smashing zoomers
>Crack sip

>>12788406
I use that exact pad lol

>>12788468
It sure isn't. Dallas is though!

You know the resident shit poster is full of it cause literally the only game they claim to play is Third Strike, while claiming to have been a 90s tourney pro.... and Third Strike literally came out in the 00s..... zoomers always conflate the 90s and 00s.
>Dude Linkin Park is so 90s
00s
>I love 90s cartoons like Naruto and Teen Titans!
00s

>>12788254
you sound so cringe when you say "old head"

>>12788487
If they were a tournament player in the 90s they'd be like 50-60 right now, but they always jerk off 00s gaming so it doesn't add up.

This has to be the dumbest argument of all time, fighting game players might actually be the lowest average IQ of any video game genre.

>>12788487
>linkin park 90s
>Naruto and teen tititan90s
As someone who grew up on those things and was born in a year where my peers claim to be 90s kids but are clearly larping, absolutely no one says those things are 90s except on cringe ass Facebook pages. Real human beings dont talk like that.

>>12788509
I've seen both on 4chan during the mid 10s - 20s on /co and /mu when underageb& zoomers invaded

>>12788506
Yes which also brings the point that nobody here jerked off 00s era gaming until 2020 when the rule change brought a bunch of zoomers who got mad at the status quo of millennial and Gen x preferences (it's our board) and started claiming to be older than they are while knowing nothing about the eras we grew up in because their only point of reference is e celebs

>>12788518
>on 4chan
Barely better than Facebook desu

>>12788530
It's a phenomenon because of generational bleed over. To someone who remembers only the very last years of the 90s perhaps, that were basically the start of the early 00s cultural identity, they can't differentiate because they just can't imagine things being different before their memories

And this is a trait totally unique to zoomers, for reasons I can't pinpoint. I was born in the end of the 80s but I was still very aware of what the 80s was like, I guess it has to have something to do with the shift from television to Internet being the primary media during formative years. If you were a 90s kid, half the shit you saw was carry over from previous generations because old shit was commonly on television, where zoomers developed insane levels of ADHD and recency bias from being raised on YouTube algorithms and Tiktok

>>12788518
>>12788509
I pretty regularly see Eminem touted as "90s rap" when he really got famous in 1998, was totally unknown before 1997, and his major peak of being famous was like 2003

>>12788475
It's decent but the buttons get gummy fast, probably going to hand out the sheckels for a PlayStation one since all the third party options are unfortunately kinda flimsy

>>12788375
>>12788406
Regardless of who this really it is, it is MORE than enough to completely and utterly dox someone. Be very careful what you post on the internet, anons.

>>12788375
I ain't reading all the retardedness in this thread but I'll say that 89 isn't old enough to count as an old player in the FGC. 84 would be the cut-off. Yes, this means Justin Wong isn't an "old school player". He is from the "new school" that came in in the 2000s.

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>>12788237
Wait just a goddamn minute... Oh fuck

>>12788614
Yeah but it's old enough to know the trends and reality of the decades I lived through, especially since my teen to adult years were the 00s.

And I'm not the one claiming I was a pro in the 90s, just that I was a gaming kid in the 90s. The third strike guy is the one making those claims while completely rewriting history

Here's a fact, home versions of Alpha 3, Rival Schools, Soul Calibur, Tekken games, and MK games are still heavily discussed nostalgically because of their single player content. Another fact is that arcades heavily declined in the 00s as did the popularity of traditional 2D fighting games. Another fact is that all the above mentioned games were significantly more popular than Third Strike basically until the 2010s revival that coincided with Third Strike becoming a "underrated gem" to the fgc hipster crowd. All irrefutable facts

>>12788636
Also noting that as kids in the 90s more of us took console gaming seriously, because it was what we had in place of being handed a smart phone with mobile games as five year olds. A lot of zoomers didn't get into "real games" until they were older , they also had by and large poorer parents

>>12787970
Doesn't hurt to try. Have fun!

>>12788208
Fighting cpu nigs in fighters is fun. It's no different than fighting bosses in any other type of game.

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>>12788056
I don't disagree, but I won't be able to get good and shake off the casual in me unless I play other ppl.
>>12788280
Haha. If I were to do that, I'd pick Nakoruru and apparently she's bonkers in IV, so there's that.

>>12789958
>don't disagree, but I won't be able to get good and shake off the casual in me unless I play other ppl.
Play with your friends. Those are the only people worth playing against.