Post 6th gen will never be retro, there is a huge difference between PS2 era games and what's after>HD graphics that are way more literal rather than interpretive, barely leaving to the imagination or let alone factoring in CRT masks (helps ICO's atmosphere a lot for example)>games are less gamey (From Crash and Ratchet to => Uncharted)>games blasted with PBR, bloom, normap maps, dynamic lighting etc. instead of mostly relying on creative textures>everything became rubber>way more universal game design language>no more hardware-specific visual identities (PS1/N64 and even PS2/Xbox have their own unique look)>way more cinematic >online shit, patches and DLCs for everythingPS2 era was the last stage of retro, then right after it came the first stage of the gaming era we have today. It's the perfect retro cutoff point
Era of innovation vs. era of derivation.
A game from 2020
>>12796283PS2 games also had piss and shit filters, the cutoff date is around 2003
People made threads like this about PS2 and Gamecube and regretfully the mods caved
2005 was the last big year in gaming
>>12796316>People made threads like this about PS2 and Gamecubeexcept for the fact PS2 and Gamecube are way more alligned with 80s and 90s retro consoles technologically, visually and from a gameplay design than what 7th gen ended up as.
>>12796283I swear to god i can't wait until the rules change to allow seventh gen. The asbolute seethe from you fucknuggets will be glorious.
>>12796349eat my 6th gen ass you fuck face we won we are retro. You are so mad 6th gen is now retro
>>127962835th gen will never be retro either.
>>12796349I look forward to the 7th gen rule change because it's the closest we'll ever get to /v2k/.
>>12796283Main thing I didn't like about gen 7 is how every dev started making you aim at things with the right analog stick. I was so hyped for MGS4 and that really bummed me out.
Piss filter doesn't bother me.Only in New Vegas, dessert is so fookin boring.
>>12796349>HDMI digital output>WiFi & Bluetooth>720p resolution>open world games>live service games>digital storefronts>operating systems>modern gameplay and cinematicsHow is 7th gen retro?? The passage of time doesn't make something retroModern architecture was invented in the 50s yet its still being used to project the future in the presentCope and seethe butthurt snezzoid
>>12796371>How is 7th gen retro??In the same way the Beatles are classical music: not at all.
>>12796283up till 2007 you'd still play at 1024x768we'd play crysis and modern warfare at that resolutiontho while that season 2007/2008 was the entry of the new era it was also the exit of the other still thus carrying and showing temporarily some of that shitit was the moment of the shift for sure although it already kinda of started in 2005and by 2008 we were fully into the hd dlcs steam and all that shitconsolens still had their own unique lookhow does the ps3 look like a xbox 360 let alone a wii
>>12796371>HDMI digital outputWii and the 360 didnt have one at the start>720p resolutionMost 7th gen games are sub 720p resolution>open world games6th gen>live service games6th gen>digital storefronts6th gen>operating systems6th gen>modern gameplay and cinematics6th gen
>>12796283for me, it's the early 3d era of abusing colored lighting because it's cool as fuckthe moment they started trying to be cinematic and realistic, they started losing it
>>12796283Cry, sis
>>12796386I would agree with you if I was a retarded Indian subhuman maining a jailbroken 7th gen system because I’m too poor for a PS5
>>12796283I mentioned this the other day but if you have to sign in to your device then it isn't and never will be retro.
>>12796437You *bought* as in *PAID FOR* a PS5 and you're trying to FLEX on pajeets with it? That's about the only thing you can do with that system lol. A fool and his money are soon retarded.
>>12796362New Vegas was one of the last "modern" games I played back in 2013 before I made the final switch to linux. It was meh to ok but not worth it enough to keep using windoze. The most modern game I play now is dawn of the machine and whatever the doom/quake community comes out with.
>>12796445Honestly they're going to have to make a classic/antique gaming board and let the retards keep the "retro" moniker
>>12796445Wouldn't that make PLATO games not retro?
Gears of War 1 is not RetroGod of War 2 released a year later IS Retrosimple as.
>>12796464GoW1 will be retro after November 7th
>>12796426tricolored cats are girls, why is that girl wearing shorts? or are furries just retarded
>>12796457Idk what that is so yes. Or no. I don't care.
>>12796283Wii and NDS are pretty retro. Metroid Prime 3 still looks like a gamecube game and Metroid Hunters looks a bit better than a GBA game but not by much. Hardly anyone talks about NDS games on /v/ anyway so I doubt there'd be heaps of NDS threads non-stop on /vr/ if it was allowed
>>12796283No matter what your personal opinion is, time marches on. Games today will eventually be considered retro and there is nothing you can do about it. Dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed.
>>12796349Zoomers will destroy this board like they destroyed /v/ if that ever happens. /vr/ is pretty decent by 4chan standards. I hope anyone thinking of allowing 7th gen trash on here considers that.
>>12796524>but not by muchWhat are some comparable GBA games, then?
>>12796283Post 4th gen will never be retro.>3D high-res graphics that are way more literal rather than interpretive, barely leaving to the imagination or let alone factoring in CRT masks (helps Golden Axe's atmosphere a lot for example)>games are less gamey (From Sonic and Mario to => Tomb Raider)>games blasted with 3D environments, CD audio, rotating cameras etc instead of mostly relying on pixel art>everything became jittery>way more universal game design language>no more hardware-specific visual identities (Genesis and SNES and even Amiga have their own unique look)>way more cinematic >online shit, patches and expansion packs for everything on PC
>>12796527>/vr/ is pretty decent by 4chan standardsIt was before the hack. /vr/'s trigger happy janny was a hero, we just couldn't see it at the time.It's become obvious to me this year that you can more reliably achieve high-quality discussion about retro games on /v/ than /vr/.
>>127964922009 PS2 lego games are already a lot more retro than Gears will ever be.
>>12796527what a dud of a mindset you have, to be unable to come in terms with time marching on, for it is inevitable, and if the truth does not set you free, then nothing ever will. why do you choose to be stifled by your own lies? why drown, when you could breathe
Why do people pretend piss filtering didn't start with the 6th gen?
>>12796316They were right. 5th gen is the end of the classic era, the end of the golden age of exploration and rapid technological advancement in gaming. It was the inflection point for diminishing returns. 6th gen and its mature 3D techniques, voice acting, and pervasive soullessness was the beginning of the modern era. That you may subdivide modern into more eras (eg the current Roblox-Fortnite era)
"piss filter" lasted from the early-mid 2000s until Deus Ex HR made it their core design element, at which point most people avoided it. usually the piss filter was intended to represent sunlight because it looked more naturalistic than white light.
>>12796528Megaman ZX isn't much better than Zero. The DS Castlevania are a little better but still very similar. Sims 2 looks like an experimental 3D GBA game. A lot of DS games still have that low res pixelated look
>>12796537gen 1 & 2 and like half of 3 is basically vintage at this point, they're all games that are so simple they get boring after a few minutes
>>12796525The Hollywood Golden Era is one specific range of time. It's not a sliding scale.
The Hollywood Golden Era is one specific range of time. It's not a sliding scale.
>>12796579Seethe
>>12796317One of the brownest images that keeps getting reposted here
>>12796601What's the matter? Not enough jarpigs for ya?
>>12796605No and there weren't many in 2005 to begin with. Too much licensed and sports garbage that only a brownoid would play (DBZ, NFS, Fight Night, 50 Cent, wrestling and basketball crap gives it away)
>>12796612Games for high testosterone males and not weeb sissies
>>12796624chill with the racism bro
>>12796317I don't want to play any of that.
Retro ended with the 20th century. Any console released after December 31st of the year 2000 is new-age and modern. Especially if it was released after 9/11.This is an informative post. Replies are not required.
>>12796634so the PS2 is the only retro 6th gen console, thanks
>>12796638dreamcast
>>12796554>the pissstation poo
>>12796283The ds is none of those things. I
>>12796679>IPost was so bad that anon died mid sentence
>>12796679A post so true that they killed anon.>>12796685A post so bad that anon couldn't punctuate it or use proper grammar..
>>12796690Maybe he died before he could punctuate.
>>12796691It's possible.
Retro gaming is based around limitation Limitation that impact significantly on game design PS3 and Xbox 360 are way too powerfull,you could do almost anything on those console unlike PS2 which was very limited
really bad thread
>>12796371>The passage of time doesn't make something retroretro (adjective): relating to, reviving, or being the styles and especially the fashions of the past : fashionably nostalgic or old-fashionedretro (adjective)similar to styles, fashions, etc. from the pastretro/ˈrɛtrəʊ/Retro means using, imitating, or reviving the styles, fashions, or designs of the recent past.Definition: The word comes from the Latin prefix retrō, meaning "backward" or "behind"Modern Usage: It describes new items, clothing, music, or decor that are deliberately made to look old-fashioned or mimic a previous era (typically from 20 to 50 years ago)
>>12796747a better word would be Vintage gaming.Retro is something new imitating something old.Vintage is something that is ACTUALLY old, according to the dictionaries./vv/ Videogames Vintage/vr/ should be a board about new games that imitate vintage games, if we were going by strict definitions
>>12796749>/vv/ Videogames Vintageprobably the best solution. and then this board can have a hard cutoff.i'm also a fan of /v2k/ which could probably be 6th and 7th gen
>>12796758>/v2k/sounds cool
>>12796317The fact it is missing PC games is so telling. Stuff like civ IV, F. E. A. R and AOE3 missing because for retards "retro=console" and PC games are not worth collecting.
>>12796317that's one fine ass piece of bait muthafucka!
>>12796640according to you the PS2 is Retro, it released before December 31st 2000. The year 2000 is indeed part of the 20th century
>>12796784>>12796638Yes. I didn't say the PS2 wasn't retro lol
>>12796747Retro loses its meaning if the new thing is not substantially different to the old one.7th gen will never be retro except for Nintendo unless we get photoreal graphics in the 2030s.seethe and cope
The board should have been limited to any console before December 31st 1999 or game that can run on windows 98. People called the NES or Genesis retro gaming even back in the early 2000s, when they were barely 10 years old, but no one calls PS2+ games retro games even now
>>12796795ok so when are we getting /v2k/?
>>12796795>no one calls PS2+ games retro games even nowi do>s-shut up zoomer!i'm 36
if a game is over 20 years old it´s retro
>>12796795For once I agree with the frogfag
>>12796816and why not 21? or 19?
>>12796283Retro is anything pre-PS3. Simple as.
>>12796283The definition of retro is really this simple. Was the iPhone invented yet? Then it's not retro.
>>12796795>game that can run on windows 98so MOH:AA or Half-Life 2 would be okay?
>>12796838yes what part of runs on windows 98 do you not understand
>>12796795too muchanything past june 1996 is not retro
>>12796821>reality is what i say it is
>>12796795*sucks teeth*u rite, frogposter."retro" has been an accepted term for pre-2000 games for a very long time.truthfully, if there was a another widely-accepted term for post-2000s but pre-modern games, then there would be no issue distinguishing them from retro.the powers that be could have memed such a term into existence. who knows, maybe we could have memed one ourselves. merely pushing for /v2k/ didn't cut it. as it stands, there is no term for post-2000 games, and because of that, mods will continue raping this board to death.
>>12796353wdym? PS1 is retro
7th gen already is retro
>>12796390WHAT GAME
>>12797368that's the firefighter game on saturn
>>12797041Nope. Consoles with inbuilt 3D accelerators aren't retro.
>>12796560Nah kys
>>12796634Incorrect. Sit the fuck down.Or better yet, you can leave.
>>12797375Incorrect. nice bullshitting with the added "inbuilt" cope though.
>>127965606th gen was when the experiments and advancements of 5th gen were fully utilized at their true potential.
>>12796605I'm not even a weeb, but the fact that 50 Cent Get Rich or Die Tryin, True Crime New York City, SSX On Tour, and JUICED are all included, tells me pretty clearly this was a pic designed by a basketball American.
>>12797375GTA:SA (PS2) looks very retro if you compare it to GTA 6. GTA:SA is clearly from a bygone era
>>12796353Vintage, Retro, Modern. Simple as
5th gen is already pushing it.6th gen was the beginning of modern, with sandbox urban sims, online FPSs and MMOs like WoW
>>12797442Breakout looks very retro if you compare it to Seiken Densetsu III. What's your point?
>>12797391>added "inbuilt" cope?
The line should be when consoles started using GPUs with shaders.That would mean the Wii, DS and PSP are retro and some people here would have an anal aneurysm if that happened.
>>12797510What type of shaders?
>>12796612too many real games not enough nintendo garbage
>>12796554piss filter started in 1997 on n64
>>12797486The point is you can tell GTA:SA isn't a modern game just by looking at it.
>>12797583It's 3D, so it looks pretty modern to me.
>>12797546Turok 1 is mostly dark green, muted grey, desaturated blue and some light brown.
>>12797591It's piss and shit colored
>>12797592>remaster screenshots
>>12796298>PS2 games also had piss and shit filters, the cutoff date is around 2003This is the realityGame design didn't change at exactly the same time new consoles released. It happened gradually as the 6th gen progressedFor example, shit like God of War isn't retro
>>12796283>games need internet and / or patches and / or DLCThis alone excludes post-6th gen.
>>12797593
>>12797589Rockstar is not going to release a new mainline GTA game with SA visuals, because it's really old looking and a product of its time. Even with the upgraded graphics in definitive edition it still looks old.
>>12796298even the image OP chose has a PS2 game on it, Most Wanted
>>12796860If a 20-year-old console is not retro then nothing is. Retro means something old, not "Something manufactured between the late '70s and whatever end date most tickles my childhood nostalgia."
>>12797606Modern =/= good graphicsPlenty of modern games look like shit>>12797636Are the Beatles classical music?
>>12797640Is the Gamecube classical music?
>>12797640classical != retro
balding millennials refusing to admit they're old men now will look at this and go>yeah this looks just like the games these days, all progress stopped when I became an adult
>>12797691GTA IV looks exactly like 5 and 6 you nostalgia ridden fucking moron.
>>12797691There are plenty of 7th generation games that look distinct but GTA 4 is the worst example I could imagine.
>>12797694>GTA IV looks exactly like 5No shit retard, they both released for the same consoles.>and 6Legitimately insane take. You're old, retarded, and hurtling straight into your mid-life crisis. This board is full of goofy middle-aged men who refuse to admit that they're wildly out of touch, but I guess that makes perfect sense.
Yeah, 2005 was peak, but here's a better image
>>12796741Retro is literally based around age. People were calling Atari through Dreamcast retro in 2006, and Dreamcast had only died five years before. Dreamcast had everything modern gaming has: advanced graphics, online play, DLC - yet somehow a twenty-year-old console like PS3 isn't retro just because it wasn't baby's first console?
>>12797909Dreamcast doesn't even have a second joystick, Dreamcast game look and play nothing like modern gamesStop being a moronOh and i'm a 1999 ,7th gen is my childhood still not retro
>>12797935Ah, so joysticks are the retro barometer now.
>>12797937Lack of joystick impact game design and gameplay moron
>>12797592Anon, if your piss is that color you should drink more water.
>>12797935>7th gen is my childhoodYour an unc anon
Time marches on.
>The 7th gen... was the best gen of all time!>That's right... I'm tired of pretending!>throws the PS2 out the window and buys a 360
7th gen apologist, do you really believe Minecraft and GTA 5 2 games that are still in the top of video games sales today are retro?
>>12797710None of those are worth replaying, except maybe RE4
>>12798034
>>12798036Not even. You just have shit taste and belong on /v/(Verification not required)
>>12798031>GTA 5Isn't that a top seller because of the Enhanced version? Personally I think the Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters shouldn't even be considered retro.
>>12798049And official online and online RP.
>>12797710Got any more westslop garbage you'd like to recommend?
We cannot have a board where the both original Tomb Raider and The Last of Us can be discussed. Otherwise, it's just /v2/.
>>12796283Time's ticking, OP. Maybe around next 5 to 10 years. It'll be filled with zoomers posting threads about PS3, Xbox 360, PSP, DS and Wii games. Time will tell.
>>12798031>>12798101I guess restricting any 7th gen games that got several remaster/remake or still has an active online community would probably minimize it.
>>12796283Agreed. 7th gen is also when west*id developers became industry leaders.
>>12797951meant for >>12796554
>>12796539No he was a fucking faggot and it was no uncommon to get hit with a fucking 3 day ban for "low quality post" just for posting something on topic he didn't like.
>>12798159Agreed. You catch bans for using the "gaymer word" these days. They let the samefaggot shit up the board with multiple bait threads to the point where I miss that retard princess sevenleaf.
>>12798167Sorry I meant to say he was a fag and so is the current one
>>12796426i want to fuck mommy cat
>>12798152
>>12798245>LeftistKek. That's the right to a T.
Why is this thread still up? Every thread like this ends up being shit flinging and goes absolutely nowhere. This thread should have been deleted immediately.
>>12796316They caved because of the ungodly amounts of retro vidya that had special PS2 versions with unique content.Dai-Ou-Jou comes to mind with the replay takeover functionality and the death label mode.Gradius III also had some special edit modes on the PS2.Don't even need to begin talking about early PS2 and the dreamcast as a whole.
>>12796316Not allowing 6th gen was always retarded.People would post pictures of their CRT setups and have to censor their PS2 or gamecube so autists wouldn't bitch at them. Cry me a river.
Just give us /v2k/ for 5th-7th gen discussion.
>>12797691I actually played a good amount of lost and the damned last week and graphically it’s behind current times slightly, but 7th gen graphics are further from 5th than 9th gen and mechanically it’s the same game. The only major evolutions in gaming since 7th gen all revolve around monetization
>>12798101This is a more reasonable take than "Uh I played GameCube as a kid so that's the cutoff."
>>12796349I'm so stoked for it. Soon...
>>12796283People need to realize that>being /vr/etro ≠ being retro I wish 4chan /vr/ was more like 8/vr/ where 6th and 7th gens were allowed but with special restrictions to keep shitters at bay. Apparently only the handheld generations are allowed while people post on their /v2k/
>>12798101Don't underestimate the people that run /vr/, they don't care about you. All they care about is getting to talk about the Wii and some cringe moe PSP games than assuring it's not a recreation of early /v/ (it still dogshit, just look at old.sage.moe)
>>12798873or just treat the 6th gen as a in-between split off
>>12796283All these gmaes looked like shit.After DOOM3(who is ugly like sin) games started to look worse then games in the early 2000s.While the journalists where saying bullshit about how great the graphics are. Truly the industry never recovered and devs to this day include ugly shit like motion blur and FOV shit.The only excuse here are fallout games since they are supposed to be a ugly shithole however even then there are moments where the ugly graphics take you out of the game.
>>12801406Most of the artistic elements which were needed when graphics were low-powered are no longer needed and everybody shot for photorealism which isn't always the best way to tell a story.
