What games played best on Sega Saturn?
>ObjectiveBaroque, because the PSX version's draw distance is ass, has worse lighting and the additions are hit&missBlack Matrix, because the next versions are casualized garbageDevil Summoners, because the only other version is casualized handheld garbage for zoomersDevil Summoners - Soul Hackers, the PSX version is fucked up in all kind of ways from graphics to sound and the additions are just not worth itGrandia, PSX version grapchical variety took a nosedive and lags a lot moreMass Destruction (better than PSX but PC might be better I'm not sure if it's 60FPS too)Mega Man 8, has some cons but the additions are actually goodVandal Hearts, better 3D but worse 2D; the changes and additions make the game better balancedNinja Jajamaru-kun: Onigiri Ninpouchou Gold; the PSX version is like alpha material while the Saturn Gold version is like a beta; game sucks either way but there you go>SubjectivePowerslave, each version is vastly different so it's understandable if you like PSX more but Saturn version is a lot smoother and has bomb jumpingMaybe Outrun with the 60FPS cheatResident Evil, worse dynamic lighting on the models but the additions are greatI don't know anything about fighting games
>>12799689>Baroqueno reason to touch the Saturd slop when the PS2 remake exists>devil summonerPSP version is better>soul hackers3DS version is better>GrandiaHD remaster is better>Vandal Heartsthe only right example you posted>Resident EvilPS1 version with mods mogs the Shiturd versioneverything else in your post is trash no one cares about
>>12799735Imagine thinking that remakes that are nothing like the originals and casualized handheld ports designed for retards who weren't born when the originals were made are "the best versions"
>>12799742stop being a pitful poserno one is impressed by you preferring inferior version of x game simply because it's the ''original''you're probably one of those losers still using and old Windows OS refusing to update
>>12799746Windows 7 works just fine. Seethe.
>>12799735>HD remaster is betterHD remaster is based on the inferior PSX version, it doesn't have the graphical variety of the original. You're either clueless, trolling, or genuinely believe what marketing tells you
>>12799771>muh graphical varietythe qol's in the HD remaster are what people care about not your graphic whoredom
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>>12799735>PSP version is betterExcept for the part where you have to use a PSP which is an uncomfortable unergonomic piece of trash that relies on gay memory sticks.
>>12799796no one but 5 or 6 fags still playing games on a real Saturdeveryone else is emulating and PSP emulation is leagues above the primitive Shiturd emulation (still shit because no one cares)
>>12799796You mean except for the part where the PSP versions changes tons of mechanics to casualize the game and try to turn it into it's more popular sequel, something it was not. It's the equivalent of putting the mechanics from Final Fantasy V into Final Fantasy III while lowering the difficulty in the processIt's basically not even the same fucking game but people don't even know and still claim "the PSP version is better" because guess what, it's the only version available in English. It's the same cope, to a lesser extent, with Soul Hackers.
>>12799673All of them, because of the controller.
>>12799689do any of those play without frame drops or slowdown? the only single Saturn game I played without that was Virtua Fighter 2 and perhaps Panzer Dragoon 1-2.even 2d games like Metal Slug or Marvel Super Heroes are full of slowdown.
Vandal Hearts is laggy as shit on Saturn. I recently tried the Saturn version since people say its "better" than on the ps1 and its my favorite tactics game. The enemy turns run at like sub 15 frames when the camera is rotating. Awful
>>12799910the controller is my daily driver but it's not better than arcade stick. its about equal, which is a big deal, but the arcade originals usually get slightly worse in the saturn ports
>>12799913Not that I noticed except for a couple of levels in Mega Man 8 which have more enemies than in the PSX versionOn the contrary Grandia and Soul Hackers perform worse on PSX>>12799917PSX
>>12799917Saturn
>>12799689The anti-handheld schizo is backI remember you from Soul Hackers threads.You didn't convince me, but I still respect your love for the originals and the Sega Saturn
>>12799927>>12799928Show me the ENEMY TURNs. They lag on the Saturn not on the psx. I played on original hardware. Maybe its much smoother on emulator.
>>12799673sotn for cool cape>>12799735you've never played baroque
>>12799689>BaroqueThose are valid points, but the main reason to choose the Saturn version is that you move twice as fast using the 3D Pad analog stick, making dungeon exploration far more enjoyable and dodging in combat far more viable.>>12799735>PS2 remakeYou should be a bit shyer about putting the depths of your retardation on full display like that.
>>12799932There is nothing wrong with games designed for handhelds to begin with. Console to handheld ports will always by definition mean a loss in quality. Console to handheld ports of previous generation games, even 'retro' ones, will have all kinds of shit to 'catter to the modern (at the time)' audiance. Conceptually there is in essence no difference between the PSP 'port' of Devil Summoners and modern 'remasters' like Tomb Raider/Resident Evil Remake which modify the gameplay by adding things like analog controls, and actually in the case of Devil Summoners it's worse because at least in the case of TR/RE they present the modifications as optional (even if turned on by default) whereas in Devil Summoners they are forced on the player without even telling him the full extent of the changes.The original Devil Summoners was designed for the old Megami Tensei dungeon crawling players. The PSP port is designed for the new MT fans of the era, the teenagers who became "MT fans" by playing Persona 3 or after; so the design of these ports assume that the players will consider the game shit or 'unplayable' unless all kinds of revisionist changes are made. Of course, these new fans don't like being told that and will present those new versions as "the best ones" even though they'd never touch the original or consider them unplayable because there is a minus 2 seconds load time before battles.Soul Hackers on DS is less offensive as a next gen handheld port but only because the base game was more casual to begin with, even then we're still dealing the loss of quality that comes with a handheld and replacing some of the art like the new awful HUD.
>>12799947I can't say I ever noticed anything; and I played both versions, but even if there are some occasional frame drops I'd sitll take the Saturn version. The fact that you no longer earn exp during Trials (even if that exp was minimal on PSX unless you exploited it) make the game more balanced, and it's compensated by the new spells some classes have, so that version comes off less as "brute forcing because I have a bit more exp than I should have" and a bit more tactical with the use of new spells.The texture warping in the PSX version is also very distracting considering the amount of rotation and zoom in/zoom out the game has. The 3D in the Saturn version looks rocksolid. It can seem ironic but it's actually the sprites that look worse on Saturn, I've always thought sprite scaling could look like ass on Saturn (Guardian Heroes) and this is a good example of it, see for instance the guard in the top left here (Saturn on the left, PSX on the right); but I find this to be less of an issue than the texture warpingas for Saturn emulation, Mednafen should be very accurate, slowdowns included. This isn't like the N64 emulators situation which do get rid of slowdowns.
>>12799973>but the main reason to choose the Saturn version is that you move twice as fast using the 3D Pad analog stickI'm testing it now and the only difference I notice is in turn speed. With the d-pad the turn speed is gradual, slow at first then speeds up; whereas with analog you get to choose how fast it is and as a result can turn faster. Walk speed seems to be the same.
>>12799997Might be a saroo issue of the translated rom then? It was noticeably laggy which I never really noticed on psx. Actually it might have something to do with the blue grid movement outline which also shows on enemy turns. The psx version had those transparent not that I care much.I might give it another chance in the future because of the new spells but the first impression really soured my enjoyment.
>>12799735Based, absolutely destroyed that retard
>>12800025I just timed myself doing some laps around the sentry angel and you're right, my bad. I guess it only affects the turning speed, the strafing speed is also identical with the analog triggers.
>>12800079Faster turning speed would be very useful in combat though
Silhouette Mirage is mostly better on Saturn but I actually like the Reaper bonus boss they added to PlayStation (the extra final boss is very poor though and basically the loser path). Apparently they were intended for the original but ran out of time.
>>12800174Yeah, especially for circle strafing around enemies.
>>12799797This isn't even believable bait, ymir works great
>>12799797Shitga Fagurn
>>12800272Ok
>>12800248Ymir is utter shit compated to peak emulator like PPSSPP so my point stands
>>12799985>Console to handheld ports will always by definition mean a loss in quality.You can shorten this to:>ports will always by definition mean a loss in quality.The problem with handheld ports most of the time is the aspect ratio. Even if its 100% faithful, the gbc/gba have weird aspect ratios, and the ds has a weird screen. And you cant afford to put black boxes to preserve the aspect ratio because the screens are already so small. So you have to compromise the viewing angleshandhelds are also usually more responsive than consoles. The buttons send a signal straight to the motherboard directly. Consoles have to poll the controllers and console games made for modern displays have to account for the lag of modern displays
>>12800248I'm a mednafen kind of guy myself.
>>12799746Considering the newest windows OS demands you constantly remain online and is maximum spyware, those losers have the right idea.
>>12799673MM8 on Saturn's great from what I hear because it has a few extra bosses.
