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Were Dead or Alive games considered "gooner" games back in the day?
Asking uncs (unironically) for some retrospective.
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>>12803226
The first one was a bit funny because of boob physics but there was no anime gooner culture over here yet so it was more of a curiosity. Like "look how weird are boobs in this game lol".
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>>12803226
only the volleyball spinoffs
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>>12803226
I never heard anyone use the word "goon" before 2010 so, no. Jerking it for hours as some kind of social movement wasn't part of the zeitgeist back then. They were just sexy games, some would say gratuitously sexy, with hot women that were nice to look at while playing. Maybe not something you'd play in the living room with your mother watching though.
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>>12803226
Starting with the beach volleyball game, yes.
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That word wasn't used back in retro.
Sexy girls were just sexy girls back then, there was no weird hidden culture war context behind
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There was tuts and disapproving talk about such things, but without social media to amplify these marginal edge case opinions they just faded into background noise while the people who made such things were perfectly accepting that males pandering to other males was a proven winner.
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>>12803226
just kys zoomshit, maybe only the Volleyball ones but not the main games would be considerd that fanservicey

>>12803324
>>12803305
it's not even a decade old
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>>12803285
My earliest memory of anything like that was reading pic related in 1998, I was like 7-8.
>THIS LIVELY LADY HAS A UNIFORM THAT IS TOO TIGHT-FITTING BY HALF! PLAYING WITH THIS CHARACTER CAN BE RATHER DISTRACTING AS HER HUGE BREASTS BOUNCE CONVINCINGLY UP
AND DOWN.
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>>12803305
>I never heard anyone use the word "goon" before 2010
Even back then, I remember it just meaning henchman or Something Awful poster.
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>>12803226
They were fapworthy
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>>12803413
>Burst into tears
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I first became aware of the series with DOA 2 on the Dreamcast. It already had a reputation as a sexy fighter back then but the gameplay was still regarded as respectable and competitive with other fighters
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>>12803324
>there was no weird hidden culture war context behind
18 y.o here. What was living in such a world like?
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>12803473
Gee I wonder what it would be like
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>>12803226
The term "gooner" did not exist.
Gaming was overwhelmingly a male-oriented hobby, and NOT oogling at titties made you fucking GAY. Which was the biggest insult one could give.

That being said, DOA1 was quite niche game with some silly boob physics.
DOA2 however was a next-gen tech demo for many systems, and whole-heartedly embraced its sexy looks and memes. The full-spread posters that shipped with gaming magazines were literally some of the oldest fap material to my generation.
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>>12803305
Millennials called it "edging."
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>>12803226
doa 1 only existed in fan hentai doujin circles
doa 2 was HUGE but still looked down on universally in the fgc, even back in early 2000s

this is due to how overpowered and free counter holds were. everything was mid, and low counter hold DODGES HIGHS and beats lows. the worst part however is that you can counter hold out of stagger. this changed gameplay to where no one tried to do ground strings and instead fished for launchers which had guaranteed damage. but at that point its either play tekken or put the effort into vf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7SnhIXmVUo

still, doa graphics and animations were insane. shipping with 4 player tag made it an amazing party game too.
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>>12803923
We still do.
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>>12803961
also to add more to this, the doa community tried to blame sex appeal as to why the game was shunned competitively. this mindset stuck forever.
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>>12803986
The way some people in the FGC talk about DOA it's like they think if it shipped without female characters it'd be bigger than street fighter.
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>>12803226
>Asking uncs unironically
You’re a 35 year old jewish male. jews do not become men.
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It was ok to be attracted to women in the 90's
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https://web.archive.org/web/20010215011104/http://formen.ign.com/news/16883.html

warning to zoomshits: you might be triggered
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>>12803226
Pretty much, yes.
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>>12803305
That's why OP put quotation marks around "gooner", ya dummy.
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>>12803982
Yeah I'm just pointing out that words existed for this already. Zoomers literally think they invented masturbation. It's the most self-obsessed generation ever I think. Even more than boomers. It's like nothing existed, then there were zoomers.
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>>12803961
FGC = Gay
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>>12803285
>there was no anime gooner culture over here yet
I remember a UK gaming magazine in the late 90s doing a feature on video game hentai with a "look what those freaky Japs are doing" tone. They even had some (heavily censored) examples, including a picture of Sakura from Street Fighter. I spent AGES searching for the uncensored picture online and never found it. Maybe it never made it online or it's just so far buried under the trillions of other Sakura pics that it might as well be lost.
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>>12804592
This one?
For me, it was Tifa on the following page
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I got in to playing DOA2 Millenium edition at the arcade beside my high school because it only cost a quarter and all the asian kids hogged the mvc2 machine.
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>>12804610
Damn, people can find anything on here. What magazine was that?
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>>12804592
https://files.catbox.moe/51erjd.png
Juan Gotoh.
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>>12804610
which tifa? you have me curious
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>DOA PS1
>added 2 new characters and lots of costumes
>30fps
>DOA Saturn
>barebones port with no extra features
>60fps
>Team Ninja considers Saturn port the definitive version
What, why?
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>>12804592
I remember the nude Lara Croft cheat code April Fools in CVG
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>>12803226
Don't listen to clueless people itt

It was known as a pervert game yes
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>>12804736
I never want to hear it said again that a porn addiction is a bad thing.
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>>12804930
not 1
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>>12804891
>DoA PSX
>30 fps

Fuck off google Gemini Saar
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Contemporary reviews were constantly talking about DoA being all tits but at least a decent game was wedged in between them.
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>>12805221
Bloody Roar got a review in the same issue on the page prior, funny enough.
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>>12803961
>tom brady
IT'S FUSTRATING
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>>12803226
It was a novelty to help the game stand out, but chronic mastubators were not a coveted market back then.
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>>12804592
Was it this?
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>>12803226
I ain't gonna lie, I parked girls on vents to get upskirts quite often in Dead or Alive 2. It lost it's novelty for Dead or Alive 3, though.
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>>12803226
Not really. Games with attractive female characters where treated more like pin up art. Games like DOA, MK and Tomb Raider. True "gooner" game (porn games) weren't really a thing outside of Japan back in the day.

Now with the way the internet is people act so stupid and form extreme opinions. So some people treat anything with an attractive woman like it's porn. It wasn't like that back in the day, unless you were a religious puritan nut job.
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>>12805292
>Steam Hearts mention
Wow
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>>12805292
Nah it was actually this >>12804610 and this >>12804736 is the fabled image. I feel like a hole has been filled in my heart.
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>>12803285
>>12804592
UK Playstation loved the game and said "boobs" every other sentence.
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>>12803226
It was just a game to see some hot chicks in do cool shit. There was the cheesecake element to it, but there wasn't some active thought of making it pornography. Likewise, it wasn't a game you'd play or mention in public but something you'd play with your close friends or by yourself in private (including that way. The babes here are absolute minxes). Actual porn games were rare and few and far between before the last decade or so other than the Japanese ones and they were upfront about being porn.
Something's gone screwy that normal heterosexual dudes can't even enjoy entertainment meant for them without being called perverts or degenerates of some kind with no basis in reality.
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DOA2 on ps2 is probably my most played fighting game. I was 14-15 at the time and I played because the fighting looked extremely sick. Largely thanks to the hold system. Being able to counter almost everything was so cool. Takken couldn't compare imo. And yeah I obviously noticed the boobs and enjoyed them, but I don't think I ever jerked it while playing the game.
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>gooner
So when is rapeape and the jannies gonna add this to the word filter? It's been ran so much into the ground it's currently in the earth's core
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>>12805487
>Something's gone screwy that normal heterosexual dudes can't even enjoy entertainment meant for them without being called perverts or degenerates of some kind with no basis in reality.
I mean, do you not see the difference?
Nowadays they make it their entire fucking personality.
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>>12806819
mods/jannies are likely all zoomgroids or sharties. They arent going to change their favorite goo goo gaga words in the big mean filter, only words like soi and senpai or words that surely get used a lot are much more worse!



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