https://archive.org/details/project-dream-snes_202609
>>12807291Huh, neat. Thanks for sharing.Not gonna install Linux, tho
>>12807301I hope Phil reads this, bro.
>>12807301>Huge leak happens of a lost cancelled game prototype.>HURRR DURER HOW CAN I MAKE THIS ABOUT TRANNIES?!?!?!?!
>>12807291https://youtu.be/WZKTS1hizpg?is=56c22jybnzB1hCKq>Uploaded 1 min ago
>>12807291This is fucking amazing, thank you. Ignore the retard trolls bringing up culture war bullshit for no reason. Real fans appreciate what you're doing. This is rewriting history.
>>12807301The description reads more like a private data hoarder who decide to upload this in protest.
>>12807323>The description reads more like a private data hoarder who decide to upload this in protest.Thats how I saw it too, and it's exactly what an ex-Rareware dev would say.
>>12807326You are mentally ill.
Based, fuck Microjeet.
>>12807337Why do you insist on making everything a conflict
Is this a historic thread? I remember playing Donkey Kong for the first time the day after it came out in Europe. This will be very interesting. I wonder if those annoying minecarts are in some alpha stage yet
>>12807291impressive graphics, nice.and yes I do use linux, because I am not a goyim slave
>using troonix that won't even work>complains about ai when Linux is literally using aiThanks but you're a retard if I'm gonna use an os that doesn't even work
>>12807346Stompadon from Banjo-Tooie is here.
>>12807349works on my machine
>>12807323>>12807325Pretty much this, it's tourists from /v/ trying to turn this board into their culture war shitheap that are bringing up trannies in any way they can. Game leaked? Must have been a tranny. Fan translation? Must have been a tranny. Person just talking about a game? Must have been a trannyI remember just a few years ago when even attempting to start that kind of bullshit here would instantly earn you a 3 day vacation, but moderation has become very lax here since the hack.>>12807326The leaker is complaining about "You will own nothing and be happy" bullshit that corporations are doing, that's not culture war you dipshit. Most of this board is against that crap too.
>>12807352Same. It's an SNES ROM format that's been around for 30 years.
>>12807354>MUH /v/
>>12807354>I remember just a few years ago when even attempting to start that kind of bullshit here would instantly earn you a 3 day vacation, but moderation has become very lax here since the hack.Worst part, it's probably just one guy doing it. That's all it takes for a whole board to go to shit.
>>12807291Holy shit, that's awesome. Thanks!
Isn't this basically just a tech demo?It wasn't even finished
>>12807362Yeah. They didn't spend much time on the SNES version before swapping to N64, so this might be the last build ever made for SNES.
>>12807354"not culture war" and they're whining about israel vs palestine in the description of a SNES game. Yes, the leaker was in fact the one to bring up culture war BS.
>>12807356yeah, I don't think that windows users are very smart......
Unbothered. Moisturized. Happy. In my lane. Focused. Flourishing.
>>12807370You're right they were the ones who brought it up, and that's stupid and all, but they also gave us something cool so I can ignore it easily enough. They delivered where it counts.
>>12807362Pretty much. All I have been able to do so far is select one of four different areas to just walk around in and swing one of three weapons. Some of the areas have an enemy I can attack, but other than getting knocked down after a few hits he gets back up, you can't permanently defeat him, and he doesn't fight back.Just about everything I have been able top play in the ROM has been shown in videos in the past, the part I think will be more interesting is when people dissect the ROM, there is sure to be some unused stuff in there that has never been publicly seen.
>playable project dream and Metal Slug prototype come into existence on the same daywhat the fuck
>>12807301are those "trannies" in the room with us right now anon?
>>12807370What does that have to do with the first reply? >>12807354Easy. Rangeban everyone who brings the subject up (whether support oppose) outside of /pol/ or /b/ for a month. Spouting mental gymnastics why they correlate shouldn't save them.
I kneel. Thank you, anon.
>>12807376This.
>somehow manages to fit Gaza into a fucking videogame about piratesJFC man we just want to play games here, we don't give a shit about Gaza, there's nothing we can do about it. Stop forcing politics into everything
>/vr/ pretenders losing their shit over a single word when the entire rest of the document was about corporations trying to take way game ownership and encouraging others to leak more Rare stuff like Twelve Talesgo back to /pol/
Wow the mods actually lifted a finger for one. Thanks.
>I hope by releasing this, that it also inspires other people to release what they have as well. I know the Twelve Tales Conker 64 prototype is out there somewhere, but sadly, this is the only thing that I have.the whole write-up was so based.there was a rumor xbox firing everyone would maybe get the prototypes/betas out there.BK beta would be a dream come true. pray for Conker and DK too.
Ever think old game concepts will get reused?We already get remakes of classic games how long do you think it will be before some modern studio makes a proper Project Dream?Personally if I have to pick one I’d rather have a Fallout Van Buren but still
>>12807380Shit like this makes me wish Nintendo pushed for the SNES to continue to receive support after the N64's launch like the NES did when the SNES released. We could have gotten a bunch of SNES games that looked this cool.NES got support from Nintendo and 3rd party devs from the August 1991 release of the SNES to August 1994, not counting Nintendo plopping out Wario's Woods in December. After Kirby Super Star released just before the N64 in Sept 1996, it got games up until about Nov 1997, with the latest Maddenslop ecking out a Dec 2 release, and Majesco releasing Frogger for some odd reason nearly a year later. The quality of games they got in the end of life phase also is drastically different.NES got Lolo 3, Rockin' Kats, Pirates, Robin Hood, Snow Bros, Vice Project Doom, Batman: Return of the Joker, Shatterhand, Tiny Toon Adventures, Kick Master, Mega Man 4-6, Bucky O'Hare, M.C. Kids, Super Spy Hunter, TMNT 3, Dragon Warrior 3-4, Darkwing Duck, Adventure Island 3, Gargoyle's Quest 2, Fire N' Ice, Kirby's Adventure, Duck Tales 2, StarTropics 2, and the two Tatio Flintstones games.SNES got DKC3, Maui Mallard in Cold Shadow, Lost Vikings 2, Harvest Moon, Kirby's Dream Land 3, and some poor arcade fighter ports plus some early arcade game collections that are also poorly emulated. And some forgettable stuff by Titus.Unfortunately, it's a direct result of Nintendo's strategy. With the launch of the SNES, they told devs the NES wasn't dead yet and would still be produced and supported, so devs took advantage of that to do a swan song game or two for the console. They knew the NES was still going strong and loved, so they were in no hurry to get devs moved over to the SNES. With the launch of the N64, Nintendo was desperate to get devs to move over fast, and killed support for the SNES as soon as they could. The PS1 had come along and was sucking away 3rd party devs left and right.Oh well.
>>12807469They have to be out there somewhere. Rare did a Rare Revealed series a decade ago with newly shot footage of Twelve Tales and a Banjo prototype.
>>12807480It's a ripe realm to draw game ideas from. Same with "shitty games" getting made good.
>>12807485Everyone just wants to copy the successes without giving them identities of their own, unfortunately.
>>12807301>everyone who sees faults in the system and doesn't consoom product is a tranny!TDS is getting a new meaning very quickly
wow it looks fucking amazing.never would have guessed with was left/right movement only.we should have gotten this over dkc3.also I made a vid of something new
So with Dreams being dug up, does that leave EB/Mother 64 as the last big Nintendo lost media?
>>12807497Conker's Twelve Tales is the holy grail.
>>12807492yeah, you can control the enemy with player 2
>>12807501I thought that was repurposed as Pocket Tales
>>12807480I think the only people who would know enough about the real PD to make a proper full version would be former Rare employees themselves. Maybe some indie dev might want to make an isometric action game inspired by this style, but I don't know, I get the feeling that most people who've been really interested in this are just prototype autists who are more intrigued by the mystique and rarity than the potential gameplay itself.
How many other big drops have been on this board?I remember Chu-Teng and the Splatterhouse RPG from a few months ago
>>12807380Something I accidentally found was that the second controller can also press B to produce a weapon swing sound effect, press Select to change scenes, and press Start to pause.It's a good graphical demo for sure, getting stomped on by one of the giant's legs was pretty impressive.For the scope of the project it's pretty obvious this wouldn't fit on a SNES cart though. This one ROM with four detailed scenes was already 2MB large (though I haven't checked the contents).>>12807480Bits of pieces from the project planning for Dream, and composed music made their way into future Rare games.The human protagonist was re-imagined as a bear, that would eventually become Banjo.The antagonist Captain Blackeye had a background artwork cameo in Banjo Kazooie, a minor appearance in Tooie where he complains about a bear that stole his glory and "a dream he had once", and on a wanter poster in Nuts & Bolts.
>>12807346>impressive graphicsLooks like shit, are you blind or retarded?
>>12807502That explains why it was producing a sound effect, the enemy just wasn't on screen when I tried it.
>the musicholy fuck
>>12807503It took ideas from it but they were very different games.
>>12807497I wanna see actual footage of Fire Emblem 64 beyond a single screenshot.
>>12807291>immediately check the date to make sure I didn't suddenly fall into a coma and its now april fools
>>12807518the fact we never saw anything beyond that means that is was a mock-up or got scrapped as soon as development started
>>12807518Wasn't this a GBA one?
>>12807506>This one ROM with four detailed scenes was already 2MB large (though I haven't checked the contents).Just ran it through the code/data logger in Mesen, did all four scenes, ran around as player and the enemy where one existed, attacked the enemy, attacked the player, etc. Had to attack in a few different locations since the player has different angled sprites depending on which way he's facing. It managed to touch about half of the ROM, 98% of that was graphical data. Based on what I've seen, I think most of the data in the ROM is animation graphics. The rest is unused engine code or unused graphical data, so there's plenty to discover for the hardcore hackers.
>>12807291ALT link https://files.catbox.moe/kmgv9v.zip
>>12807483ESL
>>12807538or just dummy data
>>12807492maybe if they made the sprites smaller they could fit more stuff.now if only someone could dump the KI2 Snes proto to prove it wasnt a britfag hoax
>>12807291Not loading in emulators for me, anyone else having this issue?
>>12807609SFC file worked just fine for me in Mesen.
>>12807497Nes kirby super star, kid Kirby, super donkey (we got assets, but dont think anything playable), Nintendo penant baseball, stage debut.
>>12807609Use SNES9x or an FXPak Pro.
Based leaker, leaked Dreams and also managed to make the resident microslop openAI shareholder have a secondary leak.>FvckPhil&AshaPure distilled sovl>>12807497Wars 64 by Hudson Soft was nearly finished and GB Wars 2 released with connectivity support with it. A shame it never leaked in the gigaleak but Nintendo might release it if they ever start digging deeper in the vault.A Mother 64 demo up to chapter 1 end exists, it's very unfinished supposedly.Conker is in a similar situation FE64 is unlikely, some huge fuckery happened behind the scenes. Intelligent Systems were working on an isometric real time 3D srpg before Shozo Kaga, alongside illustrators and other employees walked out and were funded by Famitsu/Sony to do their own FE on PS1 and he talked about "Emblem Saga" as if it was in the same continuity as FE but went as far as use screenshots of Nintendo's FE version (the final version never used that). So it's not unlikely he did some sabotage on his way out of Intelligent Systems and that there's barely any progress done to recover from that before switching to GBA (which has some lost content in the form of 5 V-Jump exclusive maps uploaded to the sram like dlc content).
>>12807291Incredibly based. Makes me wish I can do the same.>>12807505I still remember English Legendary Starfy GBA proto and final Space Fantasy Zone sourcecode slipped through our fingers.>>12807497My personal choice will always be Kirby GC, but a lot of it was repurposed.>>12807501From an objective standpoint, probably this. I hear Bad Fur Day is entirely different.>>12807530The one with Roy (named "Ike" in the 64DD version) but apparently it had way more story/character changes than Mother 3.>>12807635Haven't heard of the last two, but I know the first was just for prototyping the engine and mechanics. The target platform was always SNES.>>12807584Ain't clickin' that.
>>12807651
>>12807497Glover 2>It's comin'!Sure thing, Piko.
>>12807654>Kirby GCEverything hints it would have been a Sakurai-directed worthy successor to Super Stars, the sheer content in Wii and then how they were still reusing content from it all the way into Star Allies was impressive.My personal pick is Tilt 'n Tumble 2 for GameCube. Bewildered they never ported the motion gimmick to Wii.
>>12807654Foe Conker, they threw all the original levels away and started from scratch (except reusing a few ideas). Some think they just changed the dialog and some of the graphics to make it M rated.
>>12807509nice pleasing colors, big sprites, detailed models.you are the dumb one.
>>12807291This looks like the same build from the first part of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w72kj20YNA0Does that mean the other builds here are floating around nearby?
I always assumed the footage Rare showed in that Banjo retrospective wasn't even a remotely playable build.
>>12807689the leaker claims this is all they had.
>>12807693I know, but he got it from someone. That someone might have more.
>>12807697Nta but in that video one of the devs straight up says a few of the builds are kinda floating out there, and in his own words, if you find one "probably worth a few quid on ebay"
This Is A Reddit Gathering Not A Real Thread And If U Disagree Then Ur Jewish
>muh gazawhy are lefties so obsessed with this, sand people have literally been killing each other for hundreds of years
Digging through the rom with AI now. It turned up some apparently unused baseball graphics, 120 sprite records in total. It shared grayscale reconstructions, but couldn't tell their original colors. Anyone recognize these?
>>12807715
>>12807715>>12807716Must be Ken Griffey Jr.’s Winning Run, right?
>>12807715>Digging through the rom with AI nowOur resident luddites won't like this, anon...
Probably that one baseball game that had music done by the person who did Donkey Kong Country 3’s music.
>>12807715>>12807716>>12807718https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxJ-x_cnXJI
>>12807708That ROM description is absolutely pozzed metropolitan bugman slop.>>12807713This
>>12807719>Our resident luddites won't like this, anon...It's not generative AI. Get a grip and don't find another excuse to bring up debates.
>>12807713>sand people have literally been killing each other for hundreds of yearsso why your pedo prez keeps sending his people to die there then
>>12807734They hate all AI though?
>>12807736>trump out of nowherei'm not even american lmao, obsessed
>>12807749You're an idiot who doesn't understand nuance. Stop posting.
>>12807752so why did you bring up gaza if you're not from there?
>>12807715>>12807740Yeah definitely Ken Griffey Jr.'s Winning Run, that's the umpire too
>>12807756>why did you bring up gazathe leaker brought it up, please read the link in the op
>>12807753Oh yeah, nuance. Something the anti-AI posters in this board definitely have, lol.
Now, where the fuck is Twelve Tales
>>12807715>>12807716So they reused the roms from the development of Winning Run to make this alpha proof-of-concept, neat. Since none of it gets called no matter what you do in-game or reseting or anything, it's just leftovers.
>>12807769>Something the anti-AI posters in this board definitely have, lol.I'm usually anti-AI and I think this is a good use of AI. I told you to stop posting. So stop.
>>12807773Nah, love making you anti-AI fags seethe ;)I'm glad the development of AI is enabling us to do cool shit like that, plus translating games more accurately and all. Nice stuff!
>>12807781>I'm glad the development of AI is enabling us to do cool shit like that, plus translating games more accurately and all. Nice stuff!Me too, because it's not generative. All its doing is going through the ROM data and presenting images in a readable format. I bet you have a blue checkmark on X.
leaker sounds like a bluesky/resetera fag but whatever, good stuff
>>12807787AI translation is gen AI though, not to mention coding and stuff that goes into those releases. >I bet you have a blue checkmark on XI don't use social media besides 4chan
>>12807789>reseteraIs it 2014
>>12807503Pocket Tales was just the handheld version of it
I fucking hate rare so much, all their games suck and are euroslop ugly unfunny unfun bullshit
>>12807821Ok
The shadow makes it looks like the main character is floating
>>12807291Thnak you for not linking tranny profile
>some random dude had access to the 2 music tracks in this build a year agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHcrb9KphKwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B10j5ttZbk
>>12807851The description in the Archive link implies its been around in hoardfag circles for a while.
>>12807851>>12807876It was this guy:https://www.seaofthieves.com/news/archive/community-spotlight-jephren
>>12807789this is your post isn't it
>>12807654>>12807678Fun fact: according to gigaleak data, at least one incarnation of Kirby GCN was far enough in development to receive a serial code.This only happens when manufacturing is about to happen...
>>12807497Here is a complete list of every unreleased-but-finished game Nintendo has in their lotchecks that we don't have ROM dumps of:NES:>Heli Fighter (pictured on the left; ROM might be permanently lost according to gigaleaks)>Parnuts (no data in gigaleak outside of the name)>Pazukkado (no data in gigaleak outside of the name)>Mario Bros. Classic Serie (NTSC-J port of PAL game)>Shin Onigashima (cartridge port of FDS game)>Sutte Hakkun (would release on SNES)SNES:>Sound Fantasy (released as "SimTunes" for PC)N64:>Mini Racers (AKA "SLICRADIC" for NTSC-J)>Panel de Pon 64 (would release on GameCube in Nintendo Puzzle Collection)
>>12807291Anti-corporate politics? In the found media!? WHAT THE HELL!? >:(
>>12807948There's that N64 racing game some jap is hoarding.
>>12807291>90% of the thread is bitching about what OP wroteOkay but how is the actual rom?? Anyone play it?
>>12807967There are webms and screenshots of gameplay in this thread. Yes people have played it. Also this has been blowing up on X, Kotaku and various other outlets since it went up so you can easily find gameplay assessments if you read the thread or use Google. Or you could just you know play it
>>12807967If you're wondering why nobody is talking about how it plays, it's because there's not much on the rom besides four small areas you can walk left and right in. You can get stomped by a dinosaur and whack an enemy, not much to do. It's cool though.
>>12807967it's just a proof of concept, we're just waiting for people to examine the thing in more detail
>>12807291This guy would make for a great animal buddy in a DKC hack.
>>12807654>final Space Fantasy Zone sourcecodeFirst time hearing about the source code of Space Fantasy Zone.
>>12807497not retro, but i hope the pitch demo for pokemon pinball for the ds leaks some day.it was based on sinnoh, and according to the dev it had multiple playable levels, but nintendo didn't greenlit the project
>>12807505I think there was a bunch of Halo shit two years ago.
>>12807497That is if there was any Mother 64 rom ever in existence, it could have not even left the design phase with the "footage" just being mockup animations. Feels like it would have been in the Gigaleak. There was a SatAM "game" like this until the devs years later came out and said that it the short clip was just an animation and wasn't in any way a software program or running on any game hardware.And no, there are plenty of others, such as Kid Kirby, and IIRC there was a ton of stuff on GameCube that never came out.
>>12807538>It managed to touch about half of the ROM, 98% of that was graphical data. Based on what I've seen, I think most of the data in the ROM is animation graphics. The rest is unused engine code or unused graphical data, so there's plenty to discover for the hardcore hackers.It's also very likely the rest of it is just unrelated data from another game. These prototypes were generally on development carts that were essentially one-game flashcarts, and they would understandably get reused many times since it would be laughably wasteful and expensive to make a new one for every new build you needed to test. They generally just overwrote whatever ROM was currently on the dev cart with the one they wanted to test. They rarely if ever erased what was previously on the cart first, so if the ROM they wrote to it only took up 1MB of data for example and the dev cart was 2MB, the second 1MB could be completely unrelated data from whatever previous game was being tested on the cart.>>12807715>>12807716>>12807772Yeah, pretty much expected this, like mentioned above. Would have been cool of it was related to Project Dream or even scraps from another unreleased game, or a proto of one, but sadly this is common to see with leaked protos like this.>>12807734Sadly won't matter, I have seen many people complain if a single line of code is written by AI, or if AI was even used to analyze something. A lot of these anti-AI luddites have zero nuance, and likely don't even understand that there is a difference between this and generative AI, or a difference between AI assistance or the AI just writing everything for you, and just openly hate anything that so much as has "AI" muttered in it's general vicinity. A few utter morons even complained about games calling the CPU controlling a character "AI". I'm not just talking about on 4chan either, but everywhere.
>>12807789He literally said:>"boycott Switch Game Key Cards and buy Nintendo Switch 2 titles that still come with the full game on the cartridge."So no, he's not defending Nintendo either. He's against any company pulling anti-consumer "You will own nothing" tactics.>>12807876So like Dinosaur Planet? I hate hoardfags so much, issue is that the Dinosaur Planet situation would only further enforce their beliefs that they are sitting on an "investment" since the guy who sold the ROM needed the cash. Not only are they keeping this out of people and researcher's hands just so they can feel like they have something others do not, but most of them have no idea how to take care of them and have no idea that they can degrade over years, there was a recovered proto of Metroid on the FDS that had degraded over years of just sitting in storage from a hoarder.
>>12807967The most important of this leak is that we get Dream graphics, sounds, and music. We've seen images of the basic "gameplay" of this prototype for years and years, it's just walking along a path with one enemy.If you keep in mind that this game was initially moved to N64 before eventually morphing into Banjo-Kazooie, then it shouldn't be that surprising that there isn't much cohesive gameplay or engine details to scrape.
Another historic win for /vr/. OP is the leaker, it was uploaded to Internet Archive and the link was posted here first. It spread to X and then started getting covered by gaming news outlets shortly after. I expect you'll start seeing the usual retro gaming YouTube channels that cover this sort of thing posting videos on it in the coming days.
>>12808215It was posted /v/ earlier. Calm down.>>>/v/747265036
So this is the rom of what is on that cartridge that Tim Stamper was showing off yet refusing to share? Haha get fucked Stamper
>>12808225>>12808225It was posted here first. It was posted on /vr/ 30 minutes after.
>>12808229*Posted on /v/ 30 minutes after16:00 here16:46 on /v/ It leaked here. It spread to /v/, X and news sites after.
>>12808225>>12808227Learn how to read timestamps. OP uploaded it to IA and leaked it here.
>>12807291Just got done playing it, frankly impressive that this is SNES software. That said, the gameplay they had at this point is fucking trash. Wonder how exactly they intended to make it into an engaging rpg
>>12808227>14 minutes earlier.Why was this deleted? It's correct.
