DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>12810332Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etcGameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source portsAll other 90s FPS welcome~ Let's post like gentlemen ~FAQ/GENERAL GUIDEhttps://rentry.org/vrbinSO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXzSame thing, in video format:https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXAhttps://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQhttps://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0== GAMES/RESOURCES ==DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8QUAKE Trilogy FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhUHALF-LIFE (GoldSrc) Anthology:https://mega.nz/file/GRUCGbAY#RhOiqxnf7UPOiXcJNbRh-prKIEVRhjJaEpAkt34lyZg4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games:https://mega.nz/folder/etMkxKwK#947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqAAssorted /vr/ shooters, mods, etc:https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Qhttps://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUAMIDI COLLECTIONShttps://files.catbox.moe/2hul76.ziphttps://mega.nz/file/dWQ3SThI#qYcpa4eGQj6ElyRZgjGqszR59dh4Fq9D3qXYee54kZQhttps://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities-midi-collection-2009https://archive.org/details/midiru-archive-2022-02-25.7z== INFO/LINKS ==OFFICIAL DOOM WIKIhttps://doomwiki.org/WHERE TO FIND WADSVanilla/Boom: https://doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/ZDoom: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19/idgames: https://doomworld.com/idgames/MODDING RESOURCEShttps://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37https://realm667.com/== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==THREAD ARCHIVEShttps://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom+thread"/type/op/OUR WADS/MODShttps://rentry.org/vrdepotMAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLYhttps://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrBIMAGE/WAD DATABASEhttps://vrdoom.booru.org/https://wadsup.xyz/MULTIPLAYER SERVERSUS West: https://clovr.xyz/CA/US Midwest: https://macgu.fun/
=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===666 Minutes of /vr/Game : Doom 2 | Format : Vanilla (Limit-removing)Resources & Rules : >>12687710Repo: https://gitgud.io/GreenAnon/btsx-project/An Eternity of /vr/Game : Doom 2 | Format : Eternityhttps://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=22025=== NEWS ===[09-14] Nuked-SC55 relicensed as GPL2https://github.com/nukeykt/Nuked-SC55/blob/master/LICENSE[09-12] DOOM-CE updated, fully supports UzDoom 5.0https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-ce/news/doom-ce-400-released[09-11] Quake II PSX Jam 2 releasedhttps://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-2-re-release-psx-jam-2[09-10] 666 Minutes Of /vr/ RC2.1https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/160124[09-09] New Dawn released, MBF21 weapon mod focused on powerful & fun weapons.https://r3voke.itch.io/new-dawn[09-09] Nugget Doom 6.0.1 releasedhttps://github.com/MrAlaux/Nugget-Doom/releases[09-08] Woof! 16.0.0 releasedhttps://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/releases[09-08] Anno Doomini releasedhttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/160089[09-04] Property Damage released, mini-mod of destructible props + extra goodies by Pillowblasterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En0F2eofDyI[09-03] Dawn of the Machine's source code added to Quake rerelease's Githubhttps://github.com/id-Software/quake-rerelease-qc[08-30] Divine Twilight Chapter 2 updated, bug fixes, map changes, full OSThttps://www.moddb.com/mods/divine-twilight/downloads/divine-twilight-chapter-2-11[08-28] UZDoom 5.0.0 released https://github.com/UZDoom/UZDoom/releases/tag/5.0.0[08-26] DRD Team ceases updating all Wolf3D & Doom engines on its website on Oct 1st, 2026https://forum.drdteam.org/viewtopic.php?t=10166[08-25] Doom Universe Installment B releasedhttps://timeofdoom.proboards.com/thread/208[08-25] Alien Breed 3D 1&2 getting re-releasehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/4870460=== PREVIOUS ===https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST
this can play doom nowwe are literally trapping fruit flies in the matrix where they experience pain when they take damage and get a dopamine hit when they get a kill, item, or reach the exitapparently they are just as bad at doom as they are at surviving in physical reality and survive the demons for like 8 secondsshould we even be doing this? i like doom and how it runs on everything and all but it seems unethicalwould you want to be a simulated brain getting lit up by imps, reincarnated, and then smashed again over and over until your god gets bored?
>>12817232Cacodemons LOVE chainsaws
>>12817253>we are literally trapping fruit flies in the matrix where they experience pain when they take damage and get a dopamine hit when they get a kill, item, or reach the exit It's just mathematics. There's no fruit fly.
Yeah dude, it's not an actual tiny dissected fly-brain with electrodes attached being funneled into a computer or some shit lmao.
>>12817272It isn’t.
>""""""""scan"""""""" a brain of something you have no way to check how it will do X in real life>claim you made a digital """""""model""""""" of it>make it do X>claim that's how it would do X irl if it couldThese are your tax money btw.
However it's done, I doubt the brain scan is conscious in any regard.
which mapset would you pick to spend the rest of eternity cybernetically trapped in?
A couple of months ago, I don't know if you anons remembered, but I posted about a nightmare I had where one of the Project-Malice enemies (The Broken) tried to come and kill me. Well last night I just had another one, starring the Voidspawn.>This time I was in Minecraft (I SWEAR this is still retro fps related, bear with me).>In a pond, probably harvesting clay for bricks or something.>As I'm doing that, I immediately hear https://voca.ro/1bUA3Xj8qian and realize this fucker is noclipping through blocks to gank me and avenge the last fucker.>I Get the fuck out of the pond, pull out a sword, and try to face the direction the noise is coming from.>Don't even know if it'll be his normal sprite or looking like a Minecraft mob, but I'm ready to fight for my life again.>This time he never shows up, the sound of him stalking for me just plays in circles around me before eventually going away, and then I wake up afterwards.Should I be concerned if this mod's enemies keep stalking me in my dreams? What the fuck do I do if next time I'm in TF2 or some shit, and https://vocaroo.com/19sZrNE2KF50 is the next thing I hear?
>>12817272Well it should be!Welcome to the pain dimension you little shits. This is for my bananas.
>>12817314>Take your meds
>>12817314stop playing doom.
>>12817297Alkaline
>>12817253I fucking love science!!!!People like you are too dumb to know how fucking stupid you are
>>12817284It's the same old fuckery of trying to sensationalize shit to get more attention.
>>12817253Doom fucking rocks though, so if we were actually letting a fruit fly play it, it would be charity.
>>12817360Rats already got there, with something that was conceivably them learning to play it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMNxkQXwykA
>>12817365>teach rat to play Scythe 2>bruxing ensues
>>12817297Arcane Dimensions. Not because of Tears.Because of Bogbottom.>>12817314I remember that. Something similar happened to me once.>playing some strange, corrupted wad that was like if Doom 3 dreamed it was Doom 1/2 after dropping deliriants>very low on supplies, no ammo to start with>the regular demons were all fucked up and disgusting to look at>most of them sounded like people on life support choking or screaming while intubated>actually fucking scared because there was one that would skitter around like a bug and do some sort of QTE like Blood's evil hand, except it would just fucking bombard the screen with actual gore until Imanaged to break free>it would then explode and release a bunch of screaming fetuses that alerted other demons to my presence>what got me to wake up was this horrible painting of a demon framed in living flesh at the end of a corridor>there was something I needed right in front of it>it was probably a hellknight, flayed and with a cyberdemon's horns jammed into its eye sockets, grinning at me while it pointed at the object below it>I hesitated and went for the thing> the moment I was an inch too close the painting stretched out of the wall, split open into a mouth and bit the front half of my chest out>I didn't wake up then and there, I actually laid there and felt myself bleeding out>something laughed before I died, then I woke up in a cold sweatThe strange thing is this dream predates my knowledge of PM. I nearly shat myself when I found out about the void cunts because they remind me of it, then I nearly shat myself out when I saw the level changes were basically exactly what most of that dream felt like.
>>12817297Attrition campaign for Duke. 200+ maps randomly arranged into 10-15 episode ending on a boss fight.
>>12817314That means the horror worked. It's been almost 20 years now, but every once in a while, I occasionally still have a stressful dream about being stalked by the Creeper from Ghoul's Forest 3.
>>12817253There's no fruitfly, retard - it's all marketing bullshit, just like how those LLM companies spark up "intelligent AI will take over!! two more weeks" fearmongering for dolts like you to lap up when they sense the bubble collapsing
Maybe GMOTA isn't the best fit for Tempest Enterprise, at least not the first playthrough.
>>12817412Wait until you see what MAP05 is called.
Hey so I know it may be a stretch to ask this here but I haven't seen it so farIs there a Quake PAK that's close to the Neon Overdrive Doom WAD? Quake 1, 2 or 4 is fine, I just love that vibe of that WAD and want something similar on something more fully 3D
>>12817387>Arcane DimensionsI was gonna pick this or alkaline. Both a really awesome and I feel like I can get lost in them. There was an anon a few threads back that said something to the effect that he wished he could just live there instead of dealing with whatever was affecting him irl and I totally feel and get it. For me, personally I've been addicted to many things over the years and Quake is the least damaging so I'm gonna stick with it. Confront your demons; then shoot them in the face. Thank you to all the map builders, regardless of the game or the engine. You have made my life significantly better in so many ways and I couldn't possibly thank you enough. I truly appreciate you.
>>12817420Hope to be on your list soon anon, I've been casually practicing making shit over the past couple years and things are shaping up to me actually releasing something that I feel satisfied with before the year is overProbably for Q2 because I'm addicted to using scrolling textures which Q1 sadly doesn't have
Question/rant to mappers itt: How do you deal with absolute mapper block? Even if I manage to start a new map I never finish it and run out of steam quarter way in. It is not that bad in doom because the editor really facilitates sketching and dragging of sectors/lines/vertices really makes changing initial vision and morphing the map easy - I just doodle something, add details at beginning and go along with it by adding more setions. The problem arises in true 3d engines where changing what you already blocked/detailed out is harder - I just can't start anything because I don't have a complete vision of what I want at start, and I just can't imagine the whole project at start. Adding details seems like a final step in those engines, even though I love doing it immediately in doom because it is so satisfyingSo, 1)how do you deal with your imagination blocking midway through, and 2)what do you use to sketch up a map so you have something to follow in the appropriate mapping software(I'm a drawlet)
>>12817445when I'm stuck in creative block I go study other maps. Play new stuff, explore in editor things I know and like a lot to see how other mappers do things. I'm not a drawfag either so I just imagine everything in my brain. It also helps when I draw a basic top down layout on grid paper
>>12817445More or less what >>12817453 said but I play bad maps, pretty much from the same principal of this video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCOmkrwQdFc
>>12817297HDoom lol
>>12817459STUCK UP JERK
>>12817457this is a good advice too. I played a lot of shit before getting into mapping myself
I have been producing/streaming TRVE KVLT underground black metal and Quake on my twitch channel. Currently I am using a snowy forest background but do any of you anons have some cool Quake or Doom map screenshots I could use? Preferably without any enemies. Resolution and size doesn't matter much to me, just something that would look good behind a 40 something playing guitar and wearing corpse paint.
>>12817489I guess high resolution screenshots of mapsets like GothicDM, Gothic 99, and Crucified Dreams, those are all gothic as fuck DM levels without enemies, and would look pretty kvlt.Just boot them up with your sourceport of choice and use the clean screenshot function.
working on a new hud, dunno if it's too big or not
>>12817510now this is getting serious
>>12817445i don't map anymore, but when i did, i would either just send screenshots to a fellow mapper i respect for feedback, or if the map is far enough along, load up in warmup/coop and just hop around
No, i'm not upgrading to windows 10 to play a Uzdoom exclusive.
started playing doom recentlyI don't know what they're called but the weird cackling bastards who resurrect the dead and hit you with flames are really annoying.
>>12817532They're called Uncanny Fellows. I fear them.
The state that revenant projectile smoke puffs spawns with depends on which hitscan attack has last been processed by the game. The chainsaw or any bullet attack from the player or enemies and will cause them to spawn in full, but only the player's punching attack will cause them to spawn with a shorter duration. In this video, I've used dehacked to separate the state sequences and spawn an item fog to clarify what's happening. I believe this happens because the fist weapon has special handling in order to prevent its impact puffs from making 'sparks' that glow in the dark and homing missiles spawn the same puff object. You can't tell here, but this effect will apply to all homing rev missiles simultaneously.
>>12817540Pausing the game using the bespoke pause function (not the esc key, full keyboards literally have a button labeled 'pause') will cause homing revenant missiles to forget their target about 50% of the time. Surprisingly, this behavior even works when recording demos. This was recorded under complevel 2, not sure how useful this is or if there are any rules among speedrunners about about abusing it. I believe this happens because the homing behavior of missiles is tied to game tics, but I'm not sure.
>>12817493Thanks for the tip, much appreciated.
>>12817549Here's a more extreme example, I think this could be abused consistently with some finesse. Another effect I thought was interesting was how the game can almost be played in slow motion by repeatedly pausing and unpausing. I was able to rapidly cycle it by binding pause to my mousewheel, which wouldn't ordinarily be against any speedrun rules.
>>12817532yeah same it took me way to long to realize the revenants fireballs were tracking ones. My brain didn't click even if it was just one of them alone
>>12817549what happens if you ctrl+z the process if started through a unix shell?
>>12817549I think I've seen someone use the pause-trick during a demo (might have been a TAS?). Although it was kind of a special case. The map was Revenant Waltz from Poogers, which requires you to trigger a bunch of lines using revenant projectiles.
>>12817445For 1, it's usually a case of letting the idea of the concept or map sit in the head too long and trying to keep the entire map in "the buffer" so to speak makes it harder. The solution is to go in engine to look at/work on what's been done so far. It does a lot for shaking the dust off and going "Alright, this is where it is" and you'll usually find some things to adjust to get your momentum back.As for two, despite also being a drawlet, tend to skip the sketching stage. That is a bad habit. When not doing that, the sketches are either in a notepad or CSP.
>>12817457This is really good advice, you need to see bad or broken things, it's like taking apart an appliance you don't understand how it works when you see a magical shiny white box that just works, seeing the guts through a broken case lets figure out how simple they are.
>>12817525like that dementia wad I forgot the name of.
>>12817549Is it considered cheating?
last thread you recommended auger zenith and neon overdrive as good aesthetic wads, which should i play first?
>>12817549>>12817540Well fuck a duck.
>>12817239[09-15] Dawn of the Machine now available on GOG and Epic Store.
>>12817618Play the first level of both and decide which suits you more.
>>12817420AD is the peak of Quake mapping for me and in general, I think it's home to some of the best levels in gaming, retro or not. It's a bit nuts that it exists and is completely free.I've made some Doom maps and one Quake map, though that was just because I wanted to make sure I'd be part of Quake Brutalist Jam 3. I love brutalism and while I don't like the community that made that project happen, I still like what I made well enough. It's a shame I haven't felt the pull to make more Quake maps since, even though I started a few.>>12817445The healthier way would be to play something else entirely or read a book or something.The way I do it is start a new map, lose my shit in it and ragequit it when nothing works.Eventually, something clicks.It's easier if I have a goal in mind, which doesn't happen often.
This is completely useless for now, but I did it anyway. I can traverse the NODES lump and build subsectors just like Doom builds them. Was fun. Too dumb to look through the Doom source code for how it's done, so wrote my own algorithm. It werks© so whatever, it's not like I'm going to re-create the whole rendering engine.
What does nuked SC55 getting a license change mean for source port use?
>>12817645As I understand, that they could put it in straight and run it natively.
>>12817645it means we can listen to the music in game as bobby intended (rip)
>>12817646Ooh. That's pretty good then.
>>12817284The fruit fly thing makes me think of a city with roads built. Now we try to understand how traffic flows between all the conencted roads. I also understand it, I think, that these fruit fly simulations are basically logic/threshold gates where parts of the brain are reduced to basic (like Doom or Quake AI basic) stuff where if X is at 40% and Y is at 60%, then activate Z but do not active A. Interesting stuff but I do agree the clickbait shit of "I put a fly's brain in Minecraft!" is obnoxious
>>12817645What anon said, It means there's a point in turning it into library now, like a dll file, that can be shipped with source port so it could play the midis using Nuked. Which is objectively superior to any SC55-like soundfont. And you won't have to setup Nuked as a standalone app yourself, believe me you don't want to.
>>12817649guy who you're all flaming herei'm of the philosophical opinion there's no difference between being simulated and actually existingwe live in a simulation anyway, we've just built a recursive simulationit's only a matter of time before they figure out how to do this to the fruit flies and upload doom directly into their hardware (kinda like the difference of playing an NES game in emulation or on real hardware)it's only a matter of time before we have brains in jars calculating stuff and i just think is a really bad ideai am completely aware that it's not being run on an actual fruit fly brain, but what do you think the scientists are using this simulation to try to figure out how to do? it's the next logical step
>>12817654Oh, you're a schizo. No wonder you bought into it so easily.
>>12817650I wonder, what are the rights on this? The way I recall it, the reason that SC-55 recordings aren't used in commercial re-releases is because of Roland's ownership of the sound samples used for their original device.Does Nuked SC-55 just provide fresh new samples which are simply really authentic and close sounding? Or did they simply just permit people to use them?Obviously, I don't have the full picture here, but I'd appreciate a clarification.>>12817654>i'm of the philosophical opinion there's no difference between being simulated and actually existingI would argue that this is really rather retarded. The Imp that I'm zerk-punching into a splatter of blood and gibs isn't a living and thinking entity, neither is the Centaur that I'm gassing.>we live in a simulation anyway, we've just built a recursive simulationOh, you made a retarded argument because you're actually retarded, my bad.
>>12817659Oh shit, yeah, I forgot, you can't ship Roland samples with the source port. So at best it will be like PlayStation emulator, where you have to copy your "own" firmware files into the dedicated folder for things to work. Still I hope they'll add it.
>>12817654based on this retarded post, are there any /x/ pilled wads or other retro fps games? I can only think of some themes in AMC, but that game borrows ideas from literally everything.
>>12817445Might sound obvious but try sketching the basic layout by hand with a pencil first. It could lessen tje chance of "running into a wall" later.
>>12817668One of the things which works for me sometimes is to plain sketch out some kind of rough outline shape of a sector, which you can then start to sculpt into something.
>>12817654Wasn't flaming. Just saying that it's not really a simulation and the reality of what is going on is much more dry. >simulation vs existingWas gonna say somnething but >>12817659 beat me to it.
A very stupid question just came to mindWho would win a hot dog eating contest, Doomguy, Doom Slayer assuming they're somehow different characters, or the Quake ranger
>>12817297doom: evi2quake: alkduke: br
>>12817673Ranger, since his helmet doesn't cover his mouth. :^)
>>12817673well if doomguy can drink all these blue bottles...
>>12817675>duke: brare you sure? BR is very exhausting
>>12817673DoomguySlayer is too much of a premadonna and wouldn't ruin his body with "goyslop"Ranger is too schzio from years of dimension hopping to even entertain the idea
>>12817673Quake Guy, easily.His face isn't covered by his hel- >>12817676God damn it. Well played.
>>12817680peruvian skies map is comfy
>>12817669Yeah even if you suck at drawing, a simple skeleton layout of the main floor would probably help keep focused and give some sort of stability on the way through
>>12817659If if you have to provide your own samples, not having to have a second program running in the background is great.
>>12817297Half Quake >)
>>12817685>one of the biggest duke maps ever>1k enemies in a game never designed for it>1 hour playtime minimumyou must be fucking insane
>>12817445I will say the process that's helped me is as followsStep 1: make a "art box" room where you experiment with aesthetic choices until you have a look you like without going too in-depth on detail or texturesStep 2: Block out the level design of the map while keeping in mind what would "fit" the style of your art box, e.g. no elevators in an ancient templeStep 3: do an initial art pass to transfer some of the color and base detail of your art box to your blocked layoutStep 4: add your enemies, entities, and playtest playing through the actual map while considering what needs to be adjusted for gameplay and where some additional visual bonuses would bring the map together more, like a hallway being open on one side to show off a waterfallStep 5: Repeat steps 3 and 4 until you feel like you're satisfied with all the visualsStep 6: if you made your own basic assets in step 1, refine all the texturesThis may not be the best way for everyone, but the main idea is you should have a workflow of some sort, even better if it's a workflow where you can openly measure progress and have fun experimenting through the entire thing
>>12817618Ancient Aliens
>>12817694Some people want that, what's essentially like a megawad but in a single large level.
>>12817673Doom Slaya (aka Flynn Taggart) of course. he's literally a mary sue, so i guess he's perfect at everything he does.
>>12817618sunlust
>>12817694>in a game never designed for itWelcome to modding.>>12817697This, there's even Doom wads that are just Doom/Doom2's maps stitched together into a single map.
>>12817694What's the gameplay mod scene for Build Engine games like?
>>12817703>gameplay mod>BuildLmao. The engine can barely run games as they are and you want it to run brazilian spaghetti code without your computer exploding. Good luck.
>>12817703There's some.
>>12817703there's not much gameplay mods going on. The only big, frequently updated mod is Alien Armageddon. People who make maps mostly do it for vanilla Duke. There's nobody to make new art, textures and music around like you see in Doom scene
>>12817673My bet is on Lo Wang as a sleeper pick.
>>12817709>The engine can barely run games as they areG and UZD would choke and shit and piss if they had to run something like Blast Radius mentioned above. Look at pic rel, its all playable space and it runs perfectly
>>12817697I gave your mom a megawad :3
>>12817703You got a few big ones like AMC Squad and Alien Armageddon, a few commercial things like Ion Maiden but otherwise it's pretty quiet.
I fucking hate and like this map at the same time. Its filled with tight rooms, dark spaces and some other bullshit, but its one of the best maps IMO for a more survivor horror experience than the average arena fights and onslaught of other maps. I always wish i could get into map making so i could create a wad where there is little ammo, not that much weapon choice and tough demons in general so it gives the feeling of you being a simple weak marine trying to survive a demon infested mars, where the point is more to survive and pass the level than killing demons and upgrading your arsenal...... But also at the same time, screw this level man.
>>12817664Aren't demons /x/?
>>12817771No Anon, you are the demons.
>>12817771not /x/ enough if you know what I mean. Its a common trope in media
>>12817284>These are your tax money btw.better than being redistributed to billionaires. oh wait that's happening anyway
>>12817789>We can print infinite money >Better tax everyone that makes under 200K...JUST BECAUSE OK!?!? WHAT ARE YOU A FUCKING COMMIE!?!?Let's just keep talking about shooting demons in the face. Demons HATE when you mock them.
I know this potentially sounds really fucking stupid, but any good Quake 1/2/4 maps that are extremely purple, I want a purple experience
Is there a way to export a high definition image of the automap of my wad? I tried the ''export to image'' option in Ultimate Doom Builder but it always crashes no matter what. I guess because my map is too big?
>>12817852get some purple cellophane and stick it over your screen. That way every map can be a purple experience
>>12817875I mean fair enough but I meant a map that was actually designed to look extremely purple, like a lot of the Neon Overdrive Doom maps
>>12817650>Which is objectively superior to any SC55-like soundfont....until you run into songs with too many instruments for it.
>>12817664If you mean the matrix/men in black/chupacabras side of /x/ then try Deus ex 1, and if it’s not zany enough for you try the zodiac mod for it - it steers the base game story more strongly into the x-files territory - it’s not that good of a mod gameplay wise though, even if it did a lot of pioneer stuff when it comes to dx1 modding
>>12817618SunderEviternity 1 and 2
>>12817894On a moderately relevant note, I absolutely love both the SC-55 and SC-88 sound style, any suggestions for good soundfonts for those to work with
>>12817896Eviternity is not aesthetic, it's visual themes are super generic and trite
>>12817618If you want aesthetic wads try Bauhaus and Breach
Some of these Brutalist Jam maps feel like the Quake equivalent of slaughter maps. Good in co-op at least when you can have multiple dudes hold down the fire button.
>>12817901It's possibly the best looking .wad out there. The autumn-themed levels, in particular, are goddamn stunning.He didn't ask for "wads that have a very specific, unique aesthetic.">>12817898EmperorGrieferus' SC-55 soundfont is the one that sounds the most like an actual SC-55, especially in terms of instrument balance.It's close enough that I've never bothered with Nuked because its instrument limit makes it not worth using IMO compared to the soundfont.
>>12817894... until you read the documentation
>>12817909>EmperorGrieferus' SC-55 soundfont is the one that sounds the most like an actual SC-55, especially in terms of instrument balance.Yep, and that's why he said he won't be working on it anymore because Nuked SC-55 does exactly what he tried to achieve all this time but better.
>>12817913I mean or I could just use a soundfont that's close enough and never have to bother with adjusting any settings.
>Raze is the only build engine with 5.1 positional sound>doesn't run Ion Fury>Ion Fury/eDuke32 is stereo onlySuffering.
>>12817940Are you the guy that constantly bitches about 5.1 everywhere? You're pretty obnoxious.
>>12817946Yeah. Well. It should be there.
>>12817940>>doesn't run Ion Furyand never will, because Raze SUCKS
>>12817713Doom's fairly unique in how it has an entire, active, scene of gameplay mods that can be slapped on top of almost any map. Almost any other game I can think of either doesn't work that way or they're pretty rare compared to a whole package of being a full TC with their own custom maps.
>>12817906Are all those monsters present in single player as well? I couldn't imagine dealing with all that shit. I need to git gud at Quake, it seems.
i'm new to fps games, what finger do you guys use for E? The W or D finger?
>>12817979Not him, but modern Quake maps are notorious for not bothering to do anything for co-op (including bare-minimum testing), so it's almost certainly the same monster count.
>>12817987have you considered using the one you find most comfortable
>>12817992yes but i'm just curious and i'm not very good at all. Maybe theres an optimal one to learn
>>12817987The Any Finger
>>12817979Yes, some BJ3 maps ladle the monsters on quite heavily.
>>12817931Sure you can, but you won't convince me any existing SC-55 soundfont sounds "close enough", I can't go back from Nuked.https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1789510318086554.webm
>>12817948Well it's open sores and you have the entirety of human knowledge at your fingertips as well as LLMs designed for programming and coding. Maybe instead of constantly complaining on every platform you're on, you could instead do something useful that would not only benefit yourself but the community. Then you'll be known as the cool guy that added 5.1 sound to the raze engine instead of the whiny faggot that complains about 5.1 all the time. It's pretty bad when you're on an "anonymous" Mongolian basket weaving forum and I can recognize exactly who you are. You've basically doxxed yourself because you're the only person posting about 5.1 EVERYWHERE.
>>12817987Map it to a mouse button like a 1337 h4xx0r
>>12817913Is Nuked SC-55 resource-intensive?Would it affect FPS if you set count to, say, 10 to make sure it works with all MIDIs and you never have to change that setting?
>>12818031Not that Anon but Raze hasn't even been updated in over a year, Le No Chicken bailed on that too.
>>12817871I would like to know this as well
>>12817979Yeah, same enemy count. You don't even get the invoker (thunderbolt equivalent) by that point either to cut through them all. I think the QBJ3 arsenal is a bit better suited for larger groups of enemies at least. The super nailgun equivalent pierces enemies and the rocket launcher shoots multiple smaller rockets. And the invoker hits a wider area too so you can potentially vaporize multiple shamlers in one go.Though from what I recall this map was ported from one of the older brutalist jams that were made around the vanilla weapons.
It's interesting seeing someones first maps and then watching them slowly improve over the course of an entire megawad's worth of a total conversion. On episode 3 of Imagination World since I wanted to get the one file so I can unlock M1911 and Jackhammer for AMC Squad. Also played through Red 1 and downloaded a bunch of Duke maps I mean to go through.
>>12817964ur mom does too (quite furiously I might add)
>>12818039I've yet to see the midi that uses more that 2 instances worth of channels, that's what, 32 voices? Even the heaviest midis I tried are barely above the half of 2 instances.But yes, you can set no-lcd mode so it would basically run in background, could've just checked the docs.
Just finished Going Down Turbo.I liked it a lot but it felt a bit easy, but then again being able to run all over the place blasting demons is a big part of the fun.Not having played the original, I'm a bit torn on it. It's great, but it's lacking the burn from a bit of hardness but it also feels like some maps would be an absolute slog to play if the difficulty was increased. Mixed feelings, in a sense.
>>12817405>AI is a nothingburger and will go away in 2 weeks if we just ignore it. Bubble popping soon. Trust the plan patriots.
>>12817552I've been investigating how to create new effects with mbf21 dehacked for custom weapons. For some reason, impact puffs weren't de-hardcoded with mbf21, so hitscan attacks will always spawn the usual puff object when they hit walls/floors. However, it turns out you can take advantage of the hardcoded behavior of melee attacks specifically to make them appear different. I was hoping I could just simulate a bullet attack with a really long melee attack, but it turns out the game is checking the length of the attack when it chooses how to spawn puffs. If the attack has a range of 64, it will spawn the puffs with a different animation, if it has any other range (63, 65, -99, whatever) it will spawn them normally. Still better than nothing.
>>12818124Try the original sometime for a comparison.
>claims to have a photographic memory>couldn't remember the title of REKKR when he shit on it What did the King of Deathmatch mean by this?
>>12818150Here's a slightly shitty railgun. It operates simply by spawning a bunch of objects quickly one after another until it hits a wall. The problem is that since things in this engine don't have any pitch angle, the spawned objects can't be adjusted for height and hit enemies above or below the player. Maybe someone could make use of a weapon like this with custom made maps, but generally autoaim is too important to do away with.
>>12818157He said photographic, but never mention what type of photography.
Is there a premade Doom64 EX (or EX+) file that I can just unzip?
>>12818158You can sort of fake auto-aim by using homing projectiles, but doing so requires the objects to have time to move up or down, which requires slowing it down overall. These are only slightly faster than normal projectiles can be. It doesn't quite feel the same as real auto-aim either.
>>12818158i made a railgun mod once, i copied the particle effects from quake 2 and took snapshots of a centered weapon model and converted them to doom palette should have released it as i'm never gonna find the file it was for original zdoom
>>12818157>shit on itNever happened.
>>12818157He simply didn't take a photo of that.Why waste film on things that don't interest you?
>>12818158Sapphire wand.
>>12818161Kek
>>12818171He wasted enough film to cry about it getting credit for his idea.
>>12818164Last thing. Holding the fire buttom spawns bombs which can then be detonated remotely by pressing fire again, but it only works if you actually have line of sight to the bombs. It uses a custom splash damage attack to detonate them from a distance. When I was creating it, I expected all the bombs to explode at once, but for some reason the order seems slightly random. I'm pretty sure being able to isolate remote damage between two arbitrary objects like this has potential for other stuff, but the system has convoluted problems when used with custom enemies since it relies on unique splash immunity. This is just a proof of concept, I don't actually have any specific plans to use these for anything. Here's a download, check the internal decohack file if you want to know more about how everything works:https://files.catbox.moe/bcy6nd.wad
>>12818157>>12818169>So, when Carmack and I were finishing up Doom on the second week of November on the 10th, at 2:38 PM, I was having a coffee with exactly one serving of creamer and sugar and discussing the online component of the game...>Oh, there was this other guy... who like... also made a WAD that, like Sigil, that also had deathmatch balancing built into the main maps, I think? Something like Riker, Reggar, or some such? The name is completely escaping me right now. Anyway, even though I had the vision first, I do have to give a shoutout to the creator who I believe is called Raven.
>>12818191>>12818157This routine again?
>>12818049I think that Imagination World 1 and 2 is one of those mods/TC that would be better in GoldSrc because it doesn't take advantage of the uniqueness and neat stuff from the Build engine.
>>12818071feels weird to look at
>>12818191that son of a bitch!
>>12818194It's cyclical.
>>12818157Photographic memory is bullshit, convincing people they have it fucks them up pretty hard too cause they get older and their memory starts to fail but they're still dead certain their memory is infallible.
>>12818191>the devil wears pradaClassy
>>12818195Oh most definetely. The explosions barely even feel like build which is practically heresy
>>12818202Yeh. It's not real. Some people have good memory, but perfect memory is bullshit.
>>12818196why? this mapper has an acquired taste
>>12818201>somehow, KEKKR posting returnedRomero is not beating the time anomaly allegations
>>12818194He really said it. GameDev Podcast SIGIL episode.
>>12817650Now i hope the faggots at dosbox staging updates it soon.
>>12818264Can't you think of something more fun and novel instead?
>>12818262Can't we have a cool ripple in timespace and have the guy who made ProjectMSX come back?
>>12818219It's because of the lines and the shading, they're fucking up my depth perception. Most probably while in game and moving arround I wouldn't feel that way.
Why can't the OG members of id software get together and make one really awesome kickass retro modern game that completely decimates and shits all over the current industry? Then just leave like it never happened? They have money.
>NOOOOOOO DRINK MY KNOB AND ACKNOWLEDGE MY GENIUS
>>12818273Romero would unironically probably be down. I doubt Sandy could find time to do it while busy not delivering on his Kickstarter projects. Carmack would never.
>>12818202i watched this 60 minutes report of a woman that had an insanely detailed memory. she could recall the weather on any day from her childhood. but then she started talking about how she can still remember all the details of being bullied in school like it was yesterday and she started crying. made me realize how much of a curse that kind of memory is since time typically heals all wounds...but not when the memories never fade.
>>12818157He was being dismissive to be a cunt, there is some other interview right around the same time where he knew the correct name.
>>12818169Oh it happened.
>>12818287>I doubt Sandy could find time to do it while busy not delivering on his Kickstarter projects.Theres also the possibility that the others wouldn't want to work with him.
>>12818309Most likely yeah, he's kind of radioactive now because of his Twitter hot takes. Romero can't stand him for instance.
>>12818287i think carmack is wasting his talents working on oculus rift and all that metaverse crapwhat the guy needs to do is put his mind to developing a secure operating system. how well quake's console works shows me he can figure out how to do itthe problem is, because he's a meta employee, you'd probably need a goybook account to use this operating system :|this all said, i don't want to see him back in vidya. he's programming superman, he can do so much more
>>12818281Kek
>>12818273because people change. also when was the last time any of them made anything good this century?
>>12818335I heard Sigil is great
>>12817659Man I really love hexen I need to get into modding again, think I also just need hold back on my need to unreasonably make over animation stuff, my tangent aside what do guys think of Hexen I tend to always go back to it every once and while, I love the game probably enjoy it more than doom it might be Nostalgia, I also feel civvie was too unfair about it, it's really good game it has it's issues but no where near as bad as he made it.
>>12817771/x/ wants to fuck the demons which to be fair imps are pretty fucking sexy.
>>12818336>heardJust play it. It's fine but it's not mind blowing. The gimmick he thought was going to be innovative was already done (by REKKR). SIGIL 2 sucks.
Carmack has always been driven by his interest in advancing technology and what might be THE NEXT BIG thing.The dude dropped game programming over a decade to found an aerospace company and build rockets, explore VR and is now delving into the depths of machine learning.The prospect of going back to programming a game would sound like the most boring fucking thing you could suggest to him right now.
>>12818185Pretty fucking cool anon.
What was the last game Carmack coded? RAGE 2? He did the engine for Orcs & Elves/DOOM RPG 1 & 2/Wolfenstein RPG also.
>>12818350>Orcs & Elves/DOOM RPG 1 & 2/Wolfenstein RPGvery underrated dungeon crawlers, must play
>>12818356Yes they are extremely bases and very easy to play on modern smart phones with J2ME Loader free from the Play Store.
>>12818350On record, the last game he had any involvement with was the Doom 3 BFG edition from 2012.
>>12818371Ah yeah I forgot he left way before Rage 2.
>>12817232>Quakespasm Spiked can now run Dawn of the Machine and Mjolnir>It run Mjolnir with no crashes whatsoever THANK YOU FUCKING GOD! Ironwail is finally getting the Microsoft Edge treatment on my PC.
>>12818314Honestly a Carmack Linux distro, supported by Valve, would be amazing. I feel it'd finally solve compatibility issues with many hard/software.
>>12818150>>12818158>>12818164>>12818185Cool experiments, anon. The bombs are a great concept and I think your path is more interesting than Bound in Sapphire's (weak hitscan attack to detonate and bombs with 1 HP) but definitely more finicky.I imagine the reason it seems somewhat random is purely down to the port/engine having a hard time with splash damage over larger distances. I'd have to check again but I'm pretty sure there's a sweet spot or at least a way to make them more reliable, but this is definitely operating at a very hacky level.
>>12818281Lmao
>>12818039>Is Nuked SC-55 resource-intensiveyes. and it lags on my cpu sometimesFor some reason all software that nukeykt made is horribly resource-intensive
>>12817532Pissed off martian dudes.
Both dosbox-staging and dosbox-x are pozzed. FuuuckNow wtf is dosbox-pure? Looks like some library, not a standalone application
>>12818437>the port/engine having a hard time with splash damage over larger distancesIf you remove splash immunity from barrels you can see more what I was expecting to happen. I figure the difference is down to the certain thing flags or maybe because the bombs are still slightly in motion. Maybe I'll play around with it more but the current behavior could have some utility too.
>>12817532do your best to get out of their line of sight.>>12817557revenants suck massive cock, but you can stun-lock them with the chaingun pretty easily.
currently playing through a wad called DTWiD [DooM the way ID did]. it's designed to play out in the same style as levels created for the original game by Romero. it's 27 levels, and it's really good so far. has anyone else played this wad? if so, what did you think? i jus started E2.
>>12818185just downloaded. hell yeah.
>>12818649Yeah, it's a classic. Good stuff. Also you know Romero only made some of the maps on Doom and Doom 2 right?
>>12817716>oh ass romero>shooters id makes annoying>midi dogshit>bullshit completed>faggot touch>retro anons since old fun
>>12818162https://archive.org/details/doom-64ex-plus
>>12818672yes, but i'm fairly sure the wad is created to mock his level design specifically. at least, that's what the description said when i downloaded it. i could be wrong though, since i'm pretty sure the uploader wasn't the original wad creator, rather just someone who ported it over. [recently i've been playing on the DOOM + DOOM II special edition game for Xbox. it includes all of final DooM as well as 2000+ ported wads for download.] trying to switch over to PC, though. gonna download some wads from this thread.
>>12818691Thanks I also opted for EX plus someone should add it to the general info if it's not there alreadyIt seems that EX plus uses Nightdive wad while original EX version converts N64 rom or whatever
>>12818691>>12818707It's weird, it sems lighting is fucked in the archive one though I could have sworn it ran fine the first time I checked. Seems to be working fine in latest release (pillar on the first level where entire room fades in and out and the yellowish light moves around it), anyway that's the most effort I can offer to a gameAlso: latest doom ex+ does NOT have a mouselook option while the archive one does. What the fuck
>>12817405OpenAI solved the Navier-Stokes Millennium Prize Problem several days ago and people still insist that AI is not a threat...
>>12818706It's been so long since I played it perhaps it was intended to just emulate Romeros maps, if the readme says that then it is.Are you new to custom wads or Doom? You should definitely check out some of the total conversions. Aliens TC is a classic.
>>12818734Debatable - they haven’t even published it officialy yet, it’s more likely they just stole the research of some real scientist
Underrated megawads of the year? If I see one more recommendation for that Troonworld-boosted nippon faggot with his UTAKATA shit .................
>>12818882The whole year is just okay, no huge releases at all. To me Eye Juice feels the most prominent probably. Picrel plus the list below is virtually everything I saved so far.>OBLIV10N>666 minutes, Sub Mortem, An Eternity of /vr/>Depths, Stara szkola>Trench Foot: Butcher's Summit>Persian>Ashes: Blackwater>Bloodwater>MAYhem 2026
>>12818916>picI think some of those received large updates these past months
>>12818916Abyssal Apocrypha is prob the biggest release. No Time 2 Freeze and Eye Juice also released this year yeah. There was also Forward Torward Uranus X, and the D.B.C.P. - Doom Brutalist Community Project. Actually not that bad of a year. Let me see what else I can find. Sorting by release year isn't the worst idea.
>>12818929It quickly becomes not so good idea when the wad gets a big update few years later and now you don't know where to put it. The filesystem is just not that good for that. I keep everything in DoomLauncher and try to tag and put dates on every wad, while downloaded files themselves are stored separately, they go to Author folder first, then Cacowards year folder, and finally the rest goes into xxxx year folder.
>>12818916>An Eternity of /vr/oh yeah, THAT happened
>>12818350The thing I thought was so cool about the id RPG games was that it made Doomguy a descendant of BJ Blazkowicz and in Wolfenstein RPG the final boss is The Harbinger of Doom (get it?) who goes to get revenge on BJs descendants after you cut off his arm and leg in battle - which he does as the Cyber Demon at the end of episode 1 of Doom, complete with cybernetic replacements for the limbs you destroyed. Pretty cool. I've always kept this head canon. I mostly keep the nuDoom story as my head canon too since Eternal established it's been the same Doomguy since the original game but I filter out all the alien bullshit mostly. I just consider it that he stayed in hell after Doom 64 and anything after is just interdimensonal hell fuckery
>>12818929Strife: Pollutants released this year as well. Ashes Nomad but that was just a single fan map of a potential larger campaign. Abysm X came out but I felt that was worse than Abysm 2. Was a little over half way through and need to finish it.I noticed the creator of Reds Over World put out a new release this year in early July - Insomeria: Desert Storm. I wasn't really a fan of Reds Over World but I know some anons here liked it:https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=81582
>>12818953*vows to get revenge
>> CLASSIC DOOM CHALLENGE <<Record a UV Max demo of Anno Doomini MAP10 (-cl 2)Reply to this post with a demo & your time.Wad download:https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/160089Example demo in 6:01:https://files.catbox.moe/1r05er.lmpPrevious challenge had no entries.>>12817232
>>12818929Abyssal Apocrypha and Sojourner are boring pretentious slop
>>12818956>Abysm X came out but I felt that was worse than Abysm 2. Was a little over half way through and need to finish it.Feels like the series peaked with Pharaoh's Judgment and kind of backslid after that.
>>12818952It was ok.
Opinions on Cybermage? It seems pretty fucking ambitious for it's time and the fact it's forever buried in copyright issue obscurity now makes it very intriguing to me.
Hey can I get opinions about something really quickI wanna try to make a very water-focused Quake map that doesn't feel sluggish, any ideas for things you'd want to see if I go through with it
>>12819024>very water-focused Quake mapInfinitely respawnable biosuits in places where you actually (actually) need a biosuit. Otherwise I'm probably not touching your map with a ten foot pole.
>>12819020It was a pretty interesting game, it just came out at a time where stuff was swamped, Origin were kind of competing with themselves by releasing stuff like SS1 just before it.The future prostitute outfits were hilarious.
>>12819024>ideas for things you'd want to see if I go through with itDopefish, obviously
>>12818882Nobody's talking nearly enough about picrel
>>12819024Spiritworld’s third map is very water focused, and quite creative with it too. Maybe check it out as a reference.>>12819073Looks cool, what is it?
>>12819096Looks like One of Everything, doesn't exactly help Anon's point when he doesn't even mention what it is that nobody's talking about.
>>12819024Play foggy bottom if you haven't already. Also I agree to an extent with biosuit anon.
>>12819073boohoo flying air platform map 23765299 who cares
>>12818314>i think carmack is wasting his talents working on oculus rift and all that metaverse crapHe hasn't worked there for some time. He's just researching AGI atm.
>>12819160Probably the last thing he did was get whored out to Microsoft to promote Minecraft's VR shit
>>12819073>gimmicks to the maximum wadI don't know, it sounds fascinating but something tells me some will feel like complete shit to actually play through.
>>12818952Haven't played it, but what's wrong with it? lol
>>12819362It's ok, that's what's happened. I made a level for it and I would not recommend anyone else make levels for Eternity, I do not think it's a very good port.
>>12819362Not to say not to play it, in fact I encourage you to for the sake of getting your own opinion, and the levels really aren't bad (fairly good even), but we'd probably have gotten way more participation if it was for GzDoom.
>>12818882Not something extraordinary, but I had good time playing these slaughter speedmapshttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/158219
>>12818916What's Bloodwater? Can't find anything.
>>12819362>but what's wrong with it? lolIt’s exclusively for some shitty source port that literally nobody uses. there was no hype around it, nobody wanted to map for it and it took like 5 months to develop, only for 2 guys to make a mere collection of 5 short maps. It could’ve just been another Boom or MBF21 project desu.
>>12819404Dude, the Eternity project got 5 maps. Our last limit removing got 8. With that overall level of activity, 5 for Eternity is pretty fucking good.
>>12819518Anonymous isn't a single guy Jesus christ.
>>12819525I don't think we'll ever match 2023's output again.
>>12819362Wad itself is fine really, but it got the same as happens every time something is made for Eternity, you get some level of bitchiness from anons who never want to touch any port other than their chosen one.
>>12819518It was like 3 or 4 guys, you nigger.>nobody wanted to map for itI wanted to give it a try and that's what I did. So did the others.The time frame was long, but there didn't seem to be much drive for anything else at the time either.
>>12819542just 3, one of them made 2 maps. that's not enough. you retarded faggot.
>>12819534or 2022, some of it's burnout, some of it's just people moving on from the community or moving on from doing community stuff.Not that the threads have been that worth keeping track of much either in that time, year long shitstorms over images nobody cared about and whatever other stupid shit was going on.
>>12819552That makes 4 mappers. Did you fail elementary school, you cock sucking homo autist.
>>12819538I've used many sourceports. Doom 95, ZDoom, PrBoom, Skulltag, EDGE, ZDaemon, GzDoom, DSDA, Nugget, From Doom With Love, etc.Eternity was a letdown for me because it's so fucking underdeveloped and undercooked. For how it handles featurewise, it's like a version of ZDoom from 20 years ago, but with less features and none of that fine polish. For how it's to map for, it can do some more fancy portal stuff, but overall it's like ZDoom mapping if you took away a lot of other features and abilities.>>12819552>5 maps>3 people>but only one of them made 2 mapsNice math, retard. Nevermind the entire point of it was to just try it out and see, like HotPotato but not as fun.
>>12819563Am I missing out on something by not having Skulltag?
>>12819538>Of all the good, extensive/universal formats to map for, it has to be the most obscure one that literally nobody is familiar with, except the kool kidz klub from troonworld.
>>12819583Yea yea. Xaser, Jimmy and Skillsaw gang raped your asshole bloody. It was a sad day, but you have to move on.
>>12819578when i first joined your thread you guys told me skulltag is obsolete and replaced by zandronumunfortunately i get really bad ping to your server so i don't join coop nights
>>12819583>kool kidz klubYep, figured it was you.Yeah, we decided to specifically map for Eternity so the Kool Kids (formerly Xaser, before it was pointed out that we didn't care about him) of DoomWorld would like us despite how many times we've shit-talked their most famous members in the past.
>>12819024Underwater Jam is quite cool. Dwell's second episode is water themed.
>>12819563>Nevermind the entire point of it was to just try it out and seeReally does seem like even trying anything different is met with a weird level of resistance, while doing the same shit is met with apathy.>>12819578These days not really, you'd still want the Skulltag assets for stuff that uses them like Invasion Unleashed.
>>12819578Skulltag became Zandronum.>>12819583>obscure mapping formatIt's UDMF, it's been used by multiple sourceports for MANY years. Other sourceports use it better though.>except the kool kidz klub from troonworldIs that why maybe, two of those people make any content for Eternity at all? It's ostensibly one of the major Doom sourceports, yet the amount of people on just Doomworld alone who even play with it is vanishingly small.The most attention that Eternity ever had by the overall Doom community was when Skillsaw did Heartland, and then everyone went back to ignoring it because it's a janky port and it has no real other content.
>>12818882>>12818916This felt more like year of Quake.>tremor>dawn of the machine>map-center's 30th anniversary jam>even one of our anons releasing his mod, slipgate rangersCool stuff.
>>12819513>>12819647Goddamit. I meant Bloodfire, by Cykablyatman.
>>12819657You didn't have to (you) me too, I almost got away dignity intact...
>>128195611 anon literally confessed to make 2 maps in previous threads, 1 from Eyeballtank, and I assume the other anon made the rest (project lead? i don't fucking know) because nobody gave a shit about this project. that's only 3 people, you fucking absolute braindead retard.
>>12819764>>12819780Concession accepted.
>>12819598>Xaser, Jimmy and SkillsawTry to make it less obvious next time without mentioning the names of the people you like sucking their cocks so much.
>>12819618I started getting back into Quake in January, not even realizing it's the 30th year anniversary. I never experienced all these community maps either. It's been fucking awesome and I feel like this universe was made for ME AND ME ONLY AND I'M ONLY SHARING BECAUSE I'M A NICE PERSON
>>12819612>Really does seem like even trying anything different is met with a weird level of resistance, while doing the same shit is met with apathy.It's like this in the metal/aggressive music scene and it's all posturing and performative and fake and gay. Everyone must have the correct carefully curated opinions otherwise you get canceled even though no one shares or consumes the content you produce unless you're already majorly established and "safe". Polite sage for off topic, but I see the same crap everywhere else too.
tremor is mostly mediocre and couldn't think of anything better to add to quake's levels than extra hallways and spiral staircases but e4 is good and worth playing
>>12819846>tremor is mostly mediocre but e4 is good and worth playingSo they nailed the essence of Quake.
>>12819618Yeah it’s been great, though I’m still biased towards the year that Violent Rumble came out.
>>12819849e4 is a little boring when you learn all of the quad run routes
>>12819849>TremorI thought it was all pretty good, as fun if not better than the recent retro jams, though a lot of the posts here near its release made it sound way, way worse than it was so I had a strange impression of it going in.
>>12819050>>12819069>>12819096>>12819105>>12819610Thanks for the suggestions everyone, did a quickie scan of it all and I'll be keeping them all in mind as inspiration sources
>>12819780>I assumeSo you base your whole argument on your assumption, you shit eating homosexual pedophile with negative iq and shit in your own pants.
>>12819857Alkaline, Torrent Of Impurities, Dimension Of The Machine. It was a nice year.
>>12819841I do have to wonder if it's even still fun for them at that point or if it's more like a habit or obligation to keep at it even though they don't enjoy it anymore.
favorite Roch map?
>>12819616>It's UDMF, it's been used by multiple sourceports for MANY years. Other sourceports use it better though.Gzdoom/Uzdoom doesn't support .pke files though.
>>12819841Instructions clear, making anime Quake featuring Sega CD-style music and groovy environments now
>>12819952Haven't gotten around to them yet - on episode 4 of Imagination World now. Was trying to look for these old meme images they made. Found em right in map 1 of ep 4. Also I think some of the people complaining about slaughter maps might be more happy playing Build engine games + maps. Even Blast Radius only reached like 1000 enemies max (of which I need to finish - along with playing the one anons maps again).
>>12819962They know how cringe AMC Squad and their OCs are.
>>12819964
>>12819953Isn't .pke just a .pk3 or .pk7 with a different name?>>12819959That sounds pretty good.
>>12819959Sort of halfway between Shogo and NOLF?
>>12819962>>12819964>>12819968holy soul overload>Also I think some of the people complaining about slaughter maps might be more happy playing Build engine games + mapsthey will find other things to complain. These games dont seem very popular here for some reason. Without me spamming screenshots of maps I play nobody would talk about them
>>12819974>Without me spamming screenshots of maps I play nobody would talk about themThat's just how it is for any game that isn't doom around here.
>>12819974I wonder if it's just lack of knowledge on how to configure/play them or maybe people are too tired/stressed and they don't want to learn how to setup something new - I can be like that sometimes. It hit me whilst trying to get Shadow Warrior running was that GZDoom/UZDoom/Raze just scans the Steam Directory for you copy of the game to play and that's why so many people stick to GZ/UZ etc still even when you really should be running something like DSDA/Nugget/Cherry/Nyan/Crispy etc for some maps. A lot of people don't have launchers or anything and don't know how to configure any of that nonsense up. It was a struggle finding a decent modern source port for Shadow Warrior + a modern copy of it to run - I eventually settled on Raze using the old copy of Shadow Warrior I bought on Steam years ago which I thought ran well once I was playing it in Raze.And yeah I always thought those edits were funny - the AMC crew knows how to laugh at itself but also be serious as times. So it's good I like it a lot. l thought about this the other day cause I was checking to see if there was any Shadow Warrior mods/maps to download and AMC Squad episode 2 might be one of the only real major mapping projects that is technically Shadow Warrior. That grenade launcher had me restarting Shadow Warrior to play it again but this time spam the grenade launcher on maps I didn't prior.
>>12819964>They know how cringe AMC Squad and their OCs are.That makes them free.
>>12819959Pls keep us updated, I will play this on stream(I just upgraded to 5 followers so I'm not as underground anymore)
>>12819996quake is 2nd most talked thing about here. Never got the appeal.>>12819997>I was checking to see if there was any Shadow Warrior mods/maps to downloadI havent found anything for SW either except Doki Doki Island, a work in progress ep, 3 maps so far. This game is left to dust unfortunately, Duke and Blood still have stuff made for em.
>>12819997It's a shame there isn't a universal front-end with all of them that let's you select from a list which engine you wanna run the game in. Doom/build/quake all of it. Mite be kewl. Too many to keep track of. I just recently started using ironwail but I'm a noob to the user generated map community.
>>12820016it's called steam
>>12820016have you checked BuildLauncher? It does what you describing, keeps track of stuff for you
before i sound like an idiotyou can add any game to steam so if you have a huge library of retro fps it might be worth your time
Raze IMO is closer to the more vanilla/limit removing ports for Doom in function etc despite being GZ derived & created for mods because of how lightweight it is. It doesn't have a billion features or bloat - the options are all quick and ez to navigate. You do have to turn off filtering but it was running some stuff better than the other source ports with less hassle to get it to run properly. I kinda hope it gets support down the road from the UZ team even if it's 100% functional and works out the box right now aside from the filtering issue. It's been like a year since it last got updated. Kinda wish Graf or someone else actually sat down and took that approach with GZ/UZ and made like a lite version that cuts all the bloat.>>12820013I was about to bookmark that only to realize I already had it bookmarked and downloaded into my Shadow Warrior folder when I went looking a few weeks back for anything else to play for SW like I did Duke/Blood.
>>12820013>quake is 2nd most talked thing about here. Never got the appeal.Big bias here towards id Soft stuff, and the two Quakes are much closer to "Doom but 3D" gameplay than the Build games are IMO.I'd also agree with >>12819962 towards the few "complaining about slaughter" and to an extent "linear arena" maps would get much more out of Build content.
you can use goldberg on any singleplayer steam game you own to save yourself from either steam's unreasonably long boot time or steamwebhelper's unreasonably high ram usage
>>12820013>Never got the appeal.I'm sorry for your gay anon
>>12819970pke is the one for Eternity so even if it can open it, some of the files are just going to be meaningless to them.
>>12819997>I wonder if it's just lack of knowledge on how to configure/play them or maybe people are too tired/stressed and they don't want to learn how to setup something new99% laziness/refusal to try new shit. There's plenty of other retro shooter that require minimal to no set-up that almost no one here will ever touch. Even with specific source port jank like what goes on with , they're ultimately minor things that mostly wouldn't matter to someone booting them up for the first time.How many people here have played XIII, Star Trek: Elite Force, or Undying?
>>12820039But what does .pke actually DO that .pk3 and .pk7 do not?
>>12820041>How many people here have played XIII, Star Trek: Elite Force, or Undying?Had fun with Undying, might poke more at it and Nocturne next month.
>>12820045>But what does .pke actually DO that .pk3 and .pk7 do not?there are some features that only work in EE that other sourceports don't support. I think EE has its own scripting language or some shit.
just moving towards Build or anything decently modded for Doom the enemy/weapon department - you usually don't have to deal with modern slaughter mapping trends typically. You might have some slaughter sections but it's usually gonna be lite and for designated combat arenas or on final maps - which I think most people don't really mind. It's climatic and you are gonna have a BFG/Rocket Launcher or the equivalent there of for that map/mod at that point and the map maker is usually pretty generous since they know people are getting used to new monsters/weapons.
playing quake without viewkick and viewroll is like playing doom and goldeneye without headbobwhy
>>12820051I know, but a .pk3 is literally just a renamed .rar or .zip archive (potentially with directories) for storing content like you do with a .wad, and .pk7 is a .7z archive renamed in the same fashion.There aren't like, any direct features tied to .pk3 and .pk7, they simply work as a more practical and modern .wad format.Does .pke just use another compression algorithm for the sake of it? I don't see any reason you couldn't put files with Eternity engine code into the others and not have them be readable just the same.
>>12820051This, it's basically there for differentiation between mods for Eternity and mods for zdoom-based ports.
>>12820062I guess that makes sense enough.
>>12820041>XIIIBack when it was released, great game.>Elite ForceThe reviews in the magazines were "meh" so I never bothered with it back then.>UndyingFew years ago, great game. Played Jericho on release, great game as well, 10/10 visuals it's retro lmao
>>12820041XIII is a classic, fun as fuck to speedrun too.Played a Demo of Elite Force but never came across it after that.Never got into the Clive Barker's <word> by Clive Barker. games to give Undying a go though.
>>12820041I wanted to play XIII years ago but when I was going through a bunch of console FPS games I ended up giving up part way through cause of the gap between them and PC centered shooters that got ported later to console. There was some exceptions. Did mean to go through Star Trek Elite Force as well - I just want a comfy Star Trek game where I spend a bunch of time time on the ship talking to people chilling listening to space ship noises in between missions.>>12820054Quake also gets you away from Slaughter. I think something I like about Build is it's kinda like Plutonia mostly in terms of design since Chaingunners (fast firing hitscanners) & Revenants (explosives) and other strong enemies tend to be the default enemy type but I have weapons I can kill the enemies in the room ahead with. Doom's arsenal doesn't let you yeet explosives around walls or down below you to kill the enemy before you enter the room.
>>12820083>Quake also gets you away from Slaughterdoes it really? modern projects tend to fall into arena combat
>>12820089Yeah, they try their hardest to scratch that lesbian macroslaughter itch, but even their worst attempts are nowhere close.
>>12820089I don't think the arena combat or slaughter ever reaches the scale of Doom's though - I usually also get stuff like quad damage before hand. The worst was the Immortal Lock at 5000 monsters but everything else I'd say trends closer towards Heartland's level of slaughter at like worst which isn't that bad.
>>12820093>Heartland's level of slaughter at like worst which isn't that bad.that was pretty bad for me. Youre telling me there's worse?
>>12820049Glad to hear you're enjoying Undying. It can be a bit weird at times, but it's full of cool stuff. >NoctureIt and the Blair Witch games on the same engine are really cool games even if they have some rough spots. You should give the first Blair Witch game on that engine a shot at least after finishing Nocturne.>>12820067>The reviews in the magazines were "meh" so I never bothered with it back then.It's not a terribly long game and the end can be a bit sudden, but calling it "meh" is a disservice. It's especially worth it if you do have any fondness for trek in general and the guns are pretty fun. It's hard to imagine a better translation of trek to a retro FPS format. The sequel comes closer to being meh but it sits at like a 6.5, mainly let down by the main enemies being fairly lame.>JerichoOne of those games with some real 10/10 ideas and visuals let down by some of the shittiest implementation and overall level/encounter design.
>>12820058everyone shut that shit off in the 90s dude it fucks with your aim
>>12820096>and overall level/encounter design.I liked the brown castle, the browner castle and the greenish-brown castle.
>>12820093>The worst was the Immortal LockYou just don't understand the brilliance Of QUAKE KWEEN Lydia Lain.
>>12820097yeah and d_mipcap 0 gets you suboptimal visibility, gotta turn that up to 3 to play sp OPTIMALLY
>>12820018HAHAHAHAHA GOOD ONE.Seriously tho, steam is ok but that's not what I mean.>>12820020Neat I'll check it out
>>12820104What an ugly man
>>12819024Will it have a Chthon that throws fish?
>>12820092>lesbian macroslaughter itch>You Cut Off My Penis>You Gaped My Asshole>You Turned Me Into A Woman>Goth Girl's Bussy>THE BLEEDING ORIFICE AND THE DILATOR OF THE GODS>42% Simple>no go deeper>>12820095oh yeah it gets way worse - not in Quake but Doom. I think I did get annoyed and godmoded through a section but went back and beat it legit.
>>12820105interestingly, i only used picmip to lower the texture resolution to what qw was in the first place, then use GL_NEAREST so it looks like software modeif i was playing singleplayer quake i'd probably install some 4k texture pack
>>12820092>that lesbian macroslaughter itchI guess that explains why my girlfriend likes Sunder.
>>12820089>Slaughter>arena combatAren't those two different things?>>12820096>You should give the first Blair Witch game on that engine a shot at least after finishing Nocturne.I got those bookmarked, I'll check them out. I think they're even in the same universe as Nocturne, aren't they?>One of those games with some real 10/10 ideas and visuals let down by some of the shittiest implementation and overall level/encounter design.I liked the weird/gross aesthetics - especially for Rome - but yeah it was more on the garbage side overall.>remember playing through it fully on my PC at the time>but I didn't buy it>also specifically remember not pirating it>trying to figure how the fuck I got it>had to deep dive my own brain to remember only to realize 'holy fuck I played it through Gametap'That certainly was a time.
>>12820120slaughter itt is anything that's not lone wolf rainbow six cornerpeeking
>>12820104
>>12820037Sheep! What map?
>>12820130I heard Sheep and knew the map was Mjolnir. Was I right?
>>12820120>Aren't those two different things?There's a large amount of overlap, the bigger slaughter stuff can end up with big fuck off arenas but since it's an encounter style rather than just pure numbers, you can pull slaughter encounters off in normal arenas or even small spaces too.>>12820130Cardiff.
>>12820120>Aren't those two different things?in my eyes theyre similar. Slaughter is known more for its extreme enemy counts but both are horrible for locking you into combat arena and not giving you any freedom until you clear mapper's shit up. Both are cheap cop out from level design standpoint.
>>12820104>LainWhy are they like this?
>>12820136>locking you into combat arena and not giving you any freedom until you clear mapper's shit upQuake encounter/level design in a nutshell unless you’re into speeding past the encounters and ignoring the combat.
>>12820124Reminding me about that one Anon who thought a map where you fight something like eight monsters per minute was slaughter.
>>12820143this brings my point from above back >>12820013>Never got the appeal.
>>12820156>>Never got the appealNot everyone considers it a "cheap cop out" and enjoy the progression of encounters that are thrown at them.
>>12820124I do corner peeking as standard part of my Doom gameplay (just, you know, not slow), but I enjoy a bit of slaughter at times.
>>12820136>but both are horrible for locking you into combat arena and not giving you any freedom until you clear mapper's shit upThat's really gonna depend on the map in question.
>>12820154There are people who will scream and stomp their feet that a map which has 300 enemies is automatically slaughtershit.It feels like some people don't want Doom to ever be anything else but KDITD.
>>12820170Its okay if the mappack does it once or twice. Its not okay if its a common thing throughout the whole playthrough
>>12818758i am fairly new to custom wads. i started playing them when i got back into DooM around 2 months ago. before that, i only played DooM I, II and Final, which came with the game i got on Xbox gamepass. so honestly, i am a newfag. but it is my favourite thing ever right now as far as games go. the only thing i've been playing. i play for like 6 hours a night.i'll have to check out your recommendation.
>>12820172>It feels like some people don't want Doom to ever be anything else but KDITD.It really does seem that way, a thread or two back there were Anons complaining that a map is badly designed if it does anything unexpected that might catch you off guard.I think they'd be better off with another game, maybe something from the corridor shooter era.
>>12820176It’s okay, just means you’d be more into Hollywood Holocaust than the first few levels into Dimension of the Doomed.
>>12820181I need to finish Dimension of the Doomed. There is too many high quality mapsets/partial/total conversions now. I'm gonna be playing these games for the rest of eternity.
>>12820104he looks like kitboga dressed as a woman while shitting on pajeet scammers
>>12820132I cannot find a download for cardiff. Where do I look?
>>12820190i feel thatwaiting on shoulder surgery before i can start playing againi liked playing on UV -fast and now i just dick around in god mode
>>12820104I find the map impressive but at the same time it has a noticable but playable lag to it (even the slaughter portions at the end were playable since the framerate never dipped below 30 for me even there but it got close) and I don't really like exploring the grotesque inside of anything. That and it is fucking hard and long and I'm not really a fan of Quake trap design at times. I meant to try a few of their smaller maps cause I like the way the tech base portions looks and plays. In comparison I loved Mazu's maps mostly but those were like how I described Heartland - it has slaughter sections/arena fights but it's not that bad.
>>12820196>Where do I look?Wales.
>>12820206Thanks anyway I guess
>>12820197Oh hey, you, I was thinking of you earlier.Have you considered trying out a trackball mouse over a regular one? It might be easier on your shoulder, since you don't need to put your entire arm into it.
>>12820267i've considered buying an xbox controller (MLG 50 here)
>>12820337me herethe mystery of the ages is how do i bind my keys for doom on an xbox controller ABXY = ssg chain plasma rocket?then the lesser used weapons on the DPad?does anyone in here play on a gamepad and not mash weapnext 4 times?
>>12820342>does anyone in here play on a gamepad and not mash weapnext 4 times?Yeah, but I haven't played with a controller ever since my Steam controller stopped working. That thing was like fucking perfect for playing Doom and its mods.The weapon binds I had were haphazard, but yeah: My most used weapons were always the easiest to press.
It's time for Wednesday Night Wipeout!Come play some SRB2Kart!How to join:Download version 1.6 of the game: https://github.com/STJr/Kart-Public/releases/download/v1.6/srb2kart-v16-Installer.exeGet the custom client we use: https://codeberg.org/NepDisk/srb2k-neptune/releases/tag/Neptune2.5.1Get the mods either automatically in-game or at: https://macgu.fun/repo/srb2kart/Connect to macgu.fun (either use connect in console or "specify ipv4 address" under Multiplayer)>I HAVE TO BITCH FAST AND TEXT CHAT TOO SLOWWe also have a Mumble server!Address: 51.161.34.159Port: defaultPassword: endoom>I heard this game supports proximity chat, are we using that?No.Pro tips: https://pastebin.com/YV6biqxq(This is out of date and written for a different server, but it still has a lot of useful information.)
>>12820342The 360 port of Doom 2 put weapon keys on the d-pad, like so. I forget where the pistol went, it might have been on d-pad right, not that you're ever switching to the pistol. Nugget lets you mimic this input, binding multiple weapons to a single input to toggle between them.
>>12820342>does anyone in here play on a gamepad and not mash weapnext 4 times?I've got a setup that uses xpadder to do a sort of weapon wheel from a shoulder + analog direction, and one with uzdoom that uses the gearbox mod for an actual weapon wheel.
>>12820342you put fist and melee on the same key lolhow often do you blow yourself up
>>12820337Do it. It works quite well for Doom and you'll be back to pro tier once you adjust
>>12820404meant for >>12820352
>>12820404Not him but it makes the most sense to me if you're using a 4 directional Dpad. If the rocket is selected first at least.Because really how often do you select the fist/chainsaw in Doom?
>>12820404That's just how it was. Rockets first, then chainsaw, then fist. Probably better to put the two melee options on a face button or bumper. It's not like Doom has many necessary inputs that aren't switching weapons. You might want to put movement all on the d-pad, though. It's way easier to move that way.
>>12820410i like the chainsaw
>>12814908sounds like DUMP. The final boos of DUMP 1 was some kind of flying mecha-Hitler iirc.
>>12820418maybe i could play with a keyboard and controller in right hand, my left shoulder is fine
>>12820337Gyro input can supposedly work like a pretty good substitute for a mouse (considering the range of input and sensitivity), so that could work out pretty well.I also saw someone suggest an interesting hypothetical concept for a gamepad where you'd replace the right analog with a trackball. I'm not aware of any such product, but it seems like a cool idea.
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>>12820482There's a million ways to skin a cat for interfacing with Doom. Espi outright lost an entire arm and he plain learned how to continue mapping and playing Doom without it.Another approach is to try to use a mouse with your left hand.
>>12820342I use the scrollwheel for paging through the weapons, which isn't the optimal approach, but it hasn't hindered me, it feels seldom that weapon switching too slow is the culprit for my death.
>>12820410Berserk is and chainsaw are both so fucking fun when you get good opportunities for using them.>>12820419My logger.
>>12820509I enjoy the berserk fist. But I do not trust the chainsaw.
>>12820348GGs
Done with Imagination World 2. Episode 4 was definitely vastly weaker than episode 3 (it was more focused on atmosphere and had less combat - even had stealth/horror with more of a story focus - dare I say it was a walking sim even) - far more experimental and I do appreciate it walking and testing a lot of features that would be refined in AMC over it's long development. I wouldn't recommend this desu - it didn't age well - very glitchy visuals. Had fun with it though - was kind of a weird little viewing into the mind of a teenager in the mid 2000s. It was weird mid of Duke Nukem, Star Wars, Counter Strike Condition Zero models, Adeptus Astartes models for Mikko's soldiers, eventual MJ12 and then Doom in fourth Ep. Tons of guns because it's fun. Vehicles because why not that's fun too. 3d models everywhere because you can. It's very early Z Doom tier - very experimental and less focused on having good level/combat design and more using every feature now available to them without concern over whether they should do them - I can appreciate those maps/conversions sometimes if it isn't but a lot of people justifiably dislike that period for good reason.
>>12818963Seems weird how there's a dehacked file but the level names are still default on the map. https://files.catbox.moe/z9faso.lmp
>>12817232These thread promos are always great. Well done, OP.
>>12820410Fist? Constantly. Doom1 it's basically your SSG. Doom2 it saves your SSG ammo. Unless it's a tight ass room id say anything less than 6 hellknights is probably punch time.Chainsaw? Uhh.... well Going Down has that one map with the vents...Any other good chainsaw maps? I'd consider this a genuine blind spot in my doom skills.
I thought Shogo was fun and I wish I could convince my friends to play deathmatch with meI also wish more mech games played like Shogo
>>12820637>Fist? Constantly.even without berserk?
>>12820638It's anime characters depicted with 3D models aesthetic is cool even if if didn't always work. The mech has like zero weight though.
>>12820640Well, no. But I'd say 'zerk is pretty common place early on in most levels ever since Shores of Hell.Even then I'd probably still punch the last imp if it saves 1.5~ shells.I'd say zerk fist makes up a significant portion of gameplay though, I always think whenever it's safe, it's option no1.
>>12820643>The mech has like zero weight though.Shame me for saying this but I prefer it. Maybe they could have done more mechanically with mech form like add UT style dodging, but the weapon roster and sound design is enough to make me happy.
>>12818929>Abyssal ApocryphaThe start was going well and though I found a good wad but aroun 15 foward the design is declining, right now I'm dealing with hundread imps spawning in a little platform with little to no space to move and crushing pillars, is not fun. Also the eldritch and more horror aspect is going down the drain, fucking zelda music yo.>NT2FI think this is the most unbalanced wad I ever played, I felt like I was using russian overkill by how overtunned the weapons are. The pistol is a machinegun and you can go solo pistol fist, fist does a shit load damage and has such a long reach it makes me feel like Monkey D.luffy. single shotgun has realistic spread, meaning it is a sniper and super fast, sup-shot reloads like 50% faster, machingun is way too fast and even the rocket launcher shoot like crazy. The plasma funny enough feels weak compared to other weapons, played the whole thing in UV and cleared it easily. Was mind dumbing, I would reccomend using an alternative weapon wad to make it harder.
>>12820764>right now I'm dealing with hundread imps spawning in a little platform with little to no space to move and crushing pillars, is not fun.You just go around the outside with the nailgun and dip in for ammo/health?If that fight stands out to you, you really arent going to like the later maps.
>>12817232what is the next /vr/ project?is a second waifu one a bad idea?
>>12820770>If that fight stands out to you, you really arent going to like the later maps.Man...
>>12818916>Crematomanianever see anyone mentioning this one. Trash?
