Damn this shit sucks now. It became great two years ago but now I need a NASA computer to run the recent versions because muh accurate effects or something.
>>12839650The performance is the same as it was for me two years ago though
>>12839650Then down load a older nightly build
Don't bother op, the pajeets here will defend the brown coded emulator
>>12839656I ended up downloading the 2.0.2 version and now I can enjoy my Gran Turismo 4 again>>12839654If you have a good PC you probably won't notice but I use a laptop and the new versions chug like hell even at 1x res, everything at the minimum and increased frame latency.
>>12839659Stop replying to yourself.
>suggested "heavy" CPU is nearly a decade old>suggested "heavy" GPU is low-endWhat's the problem?
>gtx1660 ti
>>12839663Fix your shitty ai generated coded emulator.
>>12839725Stop trying to run games on your mom's work laptop.
>>12839749Retard.
>>12839650>trannies
>>12839725>make the emulator more accurate using magic and not computer power!
>>12839697You are aware the sort of peasantry that uses emulators right? If it doesn't work on an IBM thinkpad or 8 year old phone then the software is horribly optimised and the devs deserve death.
>>12839650You need to upscale a little more, nigger.
Er...I've got a pretty basic gaming laptop running Mint. Will this be an alright emulator? I'd use my PS2 but it's way back home and I don't want it damaged in travel.
>>12840053>If it doesn't work on an IBM thinkpad or 8 year old phone then the software is horribly optimised and the devs deserve deathUnironically true for most types of software. Not emulators, though. The accuracy is worth the performance hit.
>>12840069Try it, if it gets choppy then download an older version from 1 or 2 years ago.
>>12840072>The accuracy is worth the performance hit.NTA, but methinks the reason for the high requirement is more because people are unnecessarily cranking the resolution up to an absurdly high amount.
weird, it runs far better for me now than it did 4 years ago.
>>12839661Then use the previous version before it got slow for your old piece of shit computer. Don't be a faggot.
>>12839697The moderate would be more than plenty enough for high stuff, or at least Skylake and Zen+ for CPU, and GTX 1060 and RX 480 for GPU.
>>12840103At least read the entire post you're quoting, anon
>>12839650>WAAAAA! My 20 year old PC won't run software written in 2026!Fuck off anon, is this going to be your new thing? Constantly creating this same topic over and over like the Sega System troll? Software evolves, you have to have a laughably shit computer to not be able to run a modern version of PCSX2, some used $100 Walmart special can run it at this point.>B-b-but it ran 20 years agoAnd that was a 20 year old version, to ahead and keep using that. Nobody complains that their PC that could run Photoshop 1.0 can not run Photoshop CS6.>B-b-but it has not improvedTotal flat out bullshit lie. The compatibility of PCSX2 as well as emulation accuracy has improved significantly over the years, every few months there are reports about how it runs games better now and more games than before. Just recently it hit 100% in-game rate for games, the amount that don't boot at all or only boot to the intro are now 0%. Even the ones that don't go past the menu are only at 0.3% now and only go in-game are at 0.11%, and most of those are FFXI and it's expansions that require the modem and HDD which you can't play anyway even on a real PS2 anymore. in-game is at 98.36% and perfect is at 1.23%. When I used it back in 2012 it was a mess.>B-b-but I didn't notice a difference!Then you're either blind, retarded, or a lying blind retard. the chances of it having made no improvements in all the games you play on it are zero, and if by some crazy chance that is the case, when they the fuck do you care about using the latest version if your ancient version "works fine" on your even more ancient toaster level hardware?There is no a single argument here that justifies complaining about it's current system requirements. It's autistic retard behavior to expect all progress stop just so you can run the latest version which you yourself admit you see no difference with on your stupidly outdated hardware.Go find a new thing to troll about.
>>12840053>peasantry uses emulatorsSounds like projection to me, emulators even in the 90s required rather high-end hardware to run more demanding games. Good luck running Star Fox at full speed on a PC from the mid-90s, or even something like Chrono Trigger, with sound without using frameskip to run at a normal speed even with the ASM version of ZSNES at the time. Even the modern super-accurate SNES emulators require a CPU that is around what PCSX2 considers moderate level in that recommended hardware list.>>12840098Because OP is a lying bastard trying to make this his "thing" to repost over and over to troll about, not the first time I have seen this exact same argument framed in the exact same way despite everyone telling him he's being an idiot.
>>12839661Then use an older version retard.
Why does a Gaystation 2 emulator need to compile shaders as if it was a modern day PC gayme?
>>12840428Yes, yes (you) are.
>>12839650>now I need a NASA computer to run the recent versionsHuh? Since when?
>>12840459*as if it wereAnd it's because PCSX2 used to have microstuttering up the ass, and when it wasn't microstuttering, it was rendering the game completely wrong anyway.
>>12840234https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/11088001/This is one of my favourite threads in /vr/ history, I've never laughed so much on this site before. Whenever someone disparages PCSX2, just tell them to upgrade to a first-gen i7.
>>12839697The moderate is not even bad at all, that is about what I had in 2018 myself with a I7 4790 and a 1660. Also the 3050 released in 2022 and is considered below midrange for heavy. So I see zero problem with the spec increase.
>>12840103>>12840428Bots that can't read>>12840234>Hurr durr I'm exaggerating and misconstructing arguments!I don't even know what threads you're talking about, there's an archive, surely you can prove this thread is as spammed as the sega system ones? It wasn't even 20 years ago, the emulator ran fine even a year ago. And given my main interest in gaming are RETRO FUCKING GAMES, why should I need a fancy computer? (this goes for >>12840489too)A laptop runs 99.9% of what I want to play and I want it to keep it that way.>NOOOOO YOU NEED GTX 5090 (that will be $3000 plus tip plus taxes goy) TO PLAY 40-YEAR OLD BING BING WAHOOFuck off you butthurt idiots. Probably another dev by proxy with hurt feelings because he's the best programmer in the world and there's no way his code sucks.
They keep adding shit with their ai tools I thought it was perfect long time ago lol
>>12840538why dont you try making a better emulator ? surely your code wont suck.
>>12840570>Car constantly breaks down and drowns you in repairs>"Why don't you build your own car?"This has always been useless criticism. Fuck you.
>>12840538Attempting to call out others for exaggerating then acting like they are telling you to buy a 5090 just makes you look like a hypocritical retard. Nobody is asking you to buy a 5090, they are saying that literally fishing out a 12 year old PC from a dumpster would give you what you need to run the modern versions.You're not even trying, or you're just the same troll that has been attempting several other bait threads, you must really be bored. Way to expose yourself as also being that "That will be this + this +this + tax" troll by the way.>B-b-but my shitty old retro PCNobody was emulating NES on a PC from 1983 either you retard, you want a retro PC? Then play actual retro PC games on it, don't expect it to properly emulate console games from that era too. Again, you are bitching that your 1992 K-Mart Special that could run Photoshop 1.0 isn't able to run the latest Photoshop anymore. Just because it's still called PCSX2 does not mean it's still the exact same program for two decades. I can't wait for your only PC that your grandfather handed down to you to finally die so we never have to see your posts here again, I doubt it's long for this world at this rate.
>>12840575Here's some criticism. You're useless. Fuck you.
>>12840580>fishing out a 12 year old PC from a dumpster would give you what you need to run the modern versions.A laptop from 2024. I will not buy the $5000 computer to play Pokémon Red and Green. UGH I know I know... it's just that I won't use your subpar code! that's all!
>>12840027accuracy trannies really are something else though.
>>12840583>Emulate a woman>Fail>Cry when people say your woman emulation is shitMakes you think
>>12840582>Not even trying to hide the fact that he's trolling nowAll out of material since your attempt was instantly called out?
>>12840587You think caling everything trolling is an argument. It's not. You're schizophrenic. Making emulators for profit by proxy through intermediaries like Patreon has been a disaster. Only shills from now on.
>>12840585my sides XD
>Trying this hard to refuse to admit obvious troll is obviousYou lost retard
>>12840602You can't code. You will be replaced by AI.
>>12840027>>12840583>>12840585what a progession. top kek
>>12839650Yea, it's laughable. I need to find much older versions because they worked perfectly. No idea what in they unholy fuck are they doing, except it looks like they're forcibly dropping support for not exactly old machines.
Actually it runs better on my low end hardware
>>12840582>A laptop from 2024Wtf is even your problem then? I use a ten years old office machine that was never meant to be used for gaming for emulation, and never had a single problem.Could it be that you are simply too dumb to configure your emulator properly?
>>12840538>Why should I need something orders of magnitude more powerful than [GAME CONSOLE] in order to recompile it in real time?The goyim cannot be serious.
>>12840585Hardware specs are simply too high
I use my 5090 to render bsnes and duckstation.
>>12839697>whining about an emulator suggesting 8-year-old hardwareare you guys poor or something?
>>12839650>gtx 1060 6GB>8 GB ram>Intel® Core™ i5-7400Works on my machine, as it worked 10 years ago. As it worked almost 20 years ago on my old laptop
Works fine on my flopped and shitted steam deck here.
>>12840690His problem is that he's bad at trying to create troll topics
Man this completely triggered them lol
The amount of poorfag whining over this update has gotten out of hand
>>12839654>>12839697CPU needs AVX2 now I thinkYou could just not update though
>>12842515So that's why my AMD chip is getting raped? Why just design for a single brand only? Stupid tards. Now let the shills shame people for not choosing jewtel
>>12842519Jesus anon, how old is your PC, they had that shit 10 years ago
>>12842519My 10-year-old laptop supports AVX2 instructions.
What the fuck is going on here?! I haven't used PCSX2 in months in favor of my real hardware setup. Everything is fine.I just checked the latest update overview and it shows performance gains.Pro tips: DirectX 11 can offer better performance in certain games. Blending Accuracy can cause performance issues, so never set it at max.R5 5600 + Radeon RX 6750XT
>>12842519based sempron user
>>12842584Titties :D
I recall Baldur's Gate games being painful to emulate, but here it is
Why do schizos defend this shit so hard? PCSX2 used to run on a potato until they ruined it with autism in the last couple years. Reminds me of that faggot Byuu ruining emulation for a decade with muh accuracy until he faked his death.
>>12842617>PCSX2 used to run on a potato back when it was filled with graphical bugs and full of hacks>PCSX2 now actually renders all the graphics it didn't used to. WTF, WHY DOES IT NOW REQUIRE STRONGER HARDWARE?>WHY DO SCHIZOS DEFEND THE REMOVAL OF SPEEDHACKS? I LIKED IT WHEN THE EMULATION WAS SO INACCURATE THAT HALF THE GAMES CRASHED ON BOOT
>>12842617You telling me that this is not a potato?
>>12842624But it worked fine 10 years ago and ran better. Why ruin the performance of the emulator for imperceptible gains in accuracy autism?
>>12842519Nigga, the first AMD CPUs with AVX2 launched in 2015. AMD CPUs were complete dog shit from 2006-2017, but you're expecting your 10+yo CPU that wasn't even good AT THE TIME to be able to run accurate PS2 emulation?
>>12842626I could run ps2 games perfectly fine 15 years ago on ancient hardware. The only reason for these requirements now is dev incompetence and vibe coded sloppa.
>>12842631I could run ps2 emulation just fine on AMD in 2011.
>>12842629>But it worked fine 10 years agoWhat, like the skyboxes in Burnout being black? That was not fine lmao.>and ran betterMaybe on a Core 2 Duo; PCSX2 has actually gotten faster over time on modern processors.
>>12842632>>12842634Your game demos desynced with the actual content on-screen, your skyboxes were black, you had to tweak speedhacks and plugins on a per-game basis and some games just couldn't run well on any hardware at all; games did not run "perfectly fine" on PCSX2 back in the day, let alone on fucking pre-Ryzen AMD.You need to understand that your 20 year old processor is not the target hardware of modern PCSX2. Does a 2011 version of PCSX2 run faster on your 20yo CPU than a 2026 version? Sure. Does a 2011 version of PCSX2 run faster on a modern CPU than a 2026 version? Absolutely the fuck not.
>>12842639Stop making excuses for poor optimization. Accuracy is not worth sacrificing performance.
>>12842647>poor optimizationThe newer versions demonstrably run better since they use AVX2 compiler optimization flags, allowing it to process massive batches of data per cycle; a 2011 build couldn't do this, leaving most of a modern CPU's silicon completely unused.The newer versions run demonstrably better since the rendering was completely rewritten for Vulkan, completely eliminating the CPU stalling when delivering instructions to the GPU; a 2011 build couldn't do this, since it used ancient versions of DirectX and OpenGL, which had extreme single-thread CPU overhead.The newer versions run demonstrably better since they have embraced parallel processing; a 2011 build couldn't do this, where performance would tank on single-threaded pipeline stalls regardless of how fast your processor clock was.>Accuracy is not worth sacrificing performanceLuckily, accuracy has not come at the cost of performance; if you are using hardware made after the Bush presidency, performance is actually orders of magnitude faster on newer builds than 2011 builds.
>>12842647So you're telling me you managed to run PCSX2 at 6x resolution using a Core 2 Duo...This is my HP 8730w, a very capable windows xp era gaming notebook, running PCSX2 1.4.Indeed very playable.
>>12842724>gaming notebookNot exactly a gaming notebook, but its quadro GPU and core 2 duo T9600 is strong for gaming as well.
>>12842631I thought it was a jewtel thing only after a quick google search
>>12840053>You are aware the sort of peasantry that uses emulators right?cope more. the master race uses emulators.
>>12842724Stop being purposefully retarded to defend vibe coded poorly optimized slop.
>>12839650I emulate on my Xbox Series X in dev mode so I guess I dont have this problem. But ill be honest I haven't noticed a single difference in any update for the last 4 years. The only one that mattered to me was the update that fixed Ratchet and Clank to actually run correctly
>>12843081>provides concrete evidence>purposefully retardedYou are the only retarded here buddy.I'm waiting for your evidence showing me a late 2000s or early 2010s PC running PCSX2 flawless, stable, at 4k and without graphical glitchless.>but but it's just emulation of a early 2000s consoleAt least learn what emulation means, you tech illiterate moron
WOMM
>>12840489Incredibly homosexual post.
>>12843456Amazing he had to dig a two year thread. This constitutes "spam" on nu-/vr/
>>12843081You have yet to show evidence that modern PCSX2 runs worse on modern hardware. Good optimization is not conditional on supporting 20 year old hardware for fucking parallel processing applications, especially given the fact that parallel processing is itself an optimization technique.You've been preaching on /vr/ for years about how PCSX2 apparently ran "perfectly fine" back in the day, yet instead of using the hacky and buggy builds designed for your shitty dual core, you've continually posted apocalyptic bitching about newer versions. This betrays the fact that you clearly see the benefits of modern PCSX2, and are upset your dual core Phenom is underequipped for the task.PCSX2's refactorization occured before this whole AI shit happened, by the way.
>>12843287> at 4k sneaky for you to put in a meme resolution as a qualifier to ensure nobody can refute such a ludicrous claim
>>12842519The first Intel CPUs to have AVX2 released in 2013, the first AMD CPU to support it was in 2015. Not only is that over a decade ago, but that was the period when Intel was utterly dominating and AMD CPUs were total shit, who would have even had an AMD CPU back then unless you had no idea what you was buying.Regardless, Intel or AMD, that's over a decade ago. Shit's not going to sit still and never improve just so your ancient craptop can still run it, I literally bought a significantly more powerful enterprise grade desktop for $100 a few years ago that can run circles around such era systems.2013 is not even a "Retro PC" like you claimed before, that's fucking Windows 8 era, practically nothing gaming related from the Windows 7 era can't still run on modern hardware and operating systems. There is no reason to hold not that craptop other than just to whine that PCSX2 no longer runs on it and everyone should bend over backwards for your autism.
>>12839650They've only improved performance. Maybe your fan is dirty and your shitbrick is temp throttling.
12842617Obvious bait is obvious
>Say my laptop is from 2024>They keep making scenarios in their heads that it's a 2013 laptop to win an argumentI fucking hate this board. No one listens to anything. They have already decided what to post before reading the post they're quoting. You're cancer. You win. Have your (You). Yay! we ruined discourse on /vr/. Win.
The 2013 laptop in questionSageing and hiding the thread. Circlerjerk yourselves at ease.
>>12842624>>12842636>>12842639>>12842659>>12843287>>12843747You're wasting your time, this is not the first time this guy has made the exact same "Why does modern PCSX2 not run on dinosaur hardware when I see absolutely zero difference at all whatsoever?" argument, and he's clearly trolling by trying to bring it up over and over every few days like the Sega System guy.Notice that whenever actual facts are used or anyone makes a detailed response he just responds with single-sentence bait like "Stop being purposefully retarded to defend vibe coded poorly optimized slop" that have zero substance and don't address a single point that was raised. He's just fishing for annoyed responses so he can ignore them and toss out more simple bait to see if people still respond.
>>12843959>>They keep making scenarios in their heads that it's a 2013 laptop to win an argumentYou're the one who admitted to having a pre-AVX2 AMD CPU kek
