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It's so good bros, I thought it would be a shitty ripoff of other franchises blended into a Kojima turd, but it's actually really fun and Metal Gear is funny and cute as hell
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It's just a pretentious VN.
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>>12850130
>VN
vicious nigger?
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>>12850130
What's pretentious about it?
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>>12850151
Nothing really, he hasn't played the game and is just using buzzwords

>>12850114
I expected the same as you -- some hack-y Kojima shit, but it was actually pleasantly surprising. I loved it. So much character, effort, and detail put into the game. I wish the series had a continuation in the same style. It was perfect. I'm writing a spiritual sequel that I hope to gamedev.
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>>12850151
This anon >>12850130 is just retarded and trying to sound smart.
Snatcher is anything but pretentious. It copies Blade runner, Terminator and Invasion of the Body Snatchers from start to finish and it's very in your face about it. It never pretends to be something it's not and, unlike most of the other Kojima slop, it doesn't lecture you or pretend the guy writing is really smart and his take on geopolitics and science is 'le deep'

if you want a pretentious Kojima game, play MGS4. fucking shit's unplayable because of the atrocious writing holy fuck
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>>12850130
Inb4 the
>noooo vns didn’t exist before toshart
fag
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>>12850153
>I'm writing a spiritual sequel that I hope to gamedev.
I'd be down to check it out, I have no idea why Cyberpunk as a genre is basically dead and there's basically no media franchises around it except for Cyberpunk itself, which ironically fucking sucks.
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>>12850183
I'm only at the very, very beginning, rough-drafting the story beats, mechanics, multiple endings, etc. In five years, I might have a working beta done.
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with the ps1 version translated and supposedly uncensored, is it worth playing that version?
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>>12850610
Fuck no. Sega CD is the definitive version of the game, no matter what some weirdos might try to spin. The localisation is excellent, there's more content, etc. Some might argue the art is better on the PS1/Saturn version, but I personally disagree.
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>>12850114
I don't know I think it starts out fine but the third act was kinda weak and the conclusion felt rushed

Also The light gun sections were awful and not fun
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>>12850610
That's a machine translation, though, fuck that
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>>12850676
>light gun sections were awful and not fun
skill issue. the game should've had way more of that
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I looked this up, it's literally not even a game lel.
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>>12850183
the word 'punk' has negative connotations now, it reminds everybody of gay people jumping around trying to pretend to play guitar and screeching into microphones, kicking over trash cans and arguing about pronouns

punk is poison, the word itself, the music, and anything with a -punk suffix is doomed, i mean it literally means a gay sex slave prisoner
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>>12850925
Well they are less fun with a controller than an actual light gun
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>>12850943
Brown coded reply
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Let's be honest, 90% of the appeal of the game is the music.
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>>12850114
Yep. Sovltcher more like it
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Watched a playthrough, I definitely would have ragequit if I tried to play this game. The facial reconstruction in particular doesn't match up with the description you were given at all.
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>>12850610
>>12850664
Both Sega CD and Saturn versions are great. But if you want the hardcore/raw/uncensored one that most reflects Kojimas direction: PC Engine
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>>12851051
Seriously? How old are you? The puzzle is given to you on a silver platter, the only slightly confusing thing is the general face structure and you have like 2 possible options for that, everything else is straight forward
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I have it on my modded PlayStation classic. I really do plan on playing it some day
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>>12851043
Sometimes that's all you need.
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>>12851009
Sierra games have more gameplay than this Jap trash.
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Policenauts is superior
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>>12850114
I played through MSX version recently. It's the weakest cyberpunk adventure game from the 80s and early 90s. "Beneath a Steel Sky", "Rise of the Dragon", "I have No Mouth And I Must Scream", "Dreamweb", "B.A.T" - they all have mature writing. Snatcher felt like a sexually obsessed 12 year old kid wrote it.
The "Russia bad/US good" worldview is immature. Snatchers make no sense, you would detect one with a metal detector or poking it with a finger - it's metal - covering it with a human like skin makes no difference. The main character is constantly horny like that cartoon wolf and goes around harassing every woman including 14 year old daughter of your just brutally killed colleague - sniffing her panties and all. 4th wall breaking with the remarks to player felt stupid and out of place. Sting from "Dune" constantly saving the day as "Deus ex machina" felt like weak writing.
The plot of snatcher trying to set up your coworker as a suspect (while having installed gigantic commie photo in his cabinet) felt exceptionally stupid. Like what would it achieve? 5 minutes of confusion, and then what? That same coworker leaving a note to you in the compromised office was just as stupid.
I'm half-way through MSX "Metal Gear" now. At least it doesn't ruin everything with stupid writing - it's gameplay 1st. Your radio communication is basically just a hint system.
Will play "Illusion City" sometime soon and see how that compares.

>>12850183
>I have no idea why Cyberpunk as a genre is basically dead
Because we're living it and it's shit.
- Corporations running things
- Global network and hacking as mundane event
- Ultra rich & ultra poor with no middle class
- Deranged AI
- Self driving cars
- Mechanical prosthetics
- Robots employed by military
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>>12851179
Said no one ever. THAT one actually feels like a visual novel
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>>12851258
Policenauts rules. Also visual novels are good actually.
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>>12851190
russian hands wrote that post
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>>12851190
I Have No Mouth is pseud trash and garbage gameplay. Rise of the Dragon has cheesy writing too, and again, the gameplay is awful and it's a much shorter game.

>Horny
The horny options are entirely optional. Your complaints sound like someone hitting themselves in the head and then declaring that hammers are unsafe and gay.

>RUSSIA DINDU
Yeah okay buddy, Russia is for sure the good guys in the world of the 80s
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kino
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>>12851269
>The horny options are entirely optional
To be fair, if you're not using a guide you basically have to pick every option to proceed, sometimes 2 or 3 times. You might not WANT to sniff the panties but if you're stuck you have to try.
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>>12851269
nah
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>>12851269
>Yeah okay buddy, Russia is for sure the good guys in the world of the 80s
No, knobhead, it's not that Russia is a good guy. It's that there isn't a good guy. Kojima came to understand it in his later writing but those early games are all red scare US dick sucking and ironically just a few years before Soviet Union collapsed, so he swept them under the rug.
>The horny options are entirely optional.
The gameplay is built on you exhausting every possible action until the new ones appear and you being stuck and unable to progress until this happens. The player is trained for this through the whole 1st Act. So it is very deliberate. The shower scene is part of the main plot and her age comes up at least 3 times during the play, so Kojima made it explicit he's sexually interested in this 14 year old distressed girl and forces the player to participate.
>I Have No Mouth is pseud trash and garbage gameplay.
Ha, ha. Yeah, to think that Hugo award winning best short story by Harlan Ellison could compete with Hideo Kojima... Rope yourself, faggot.
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He wants to be am*rican so bad...
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>>12851304
>No, knobhead, it's not that Russia is a good guy. It's that there isn't a good guy. Kojima came to understand it in his later writing but those early games are all red scare US dick sucking and ironically just a few years before Soviet Union collapsed, so he swept them under the rug.
Even Kojima wasn't so naive to think America was wholly good. The dark side of American imperialism was referenced in Kojima games even before MGS. It's not unfair to say the Soviets were still much worse.

>The gameplay is built on you exhausting every possible action until the new ones appear and you being stuck and unable to progress until this happens. The player is trained for this through the whole 1st Act. So it is very deliberate.
Bullshit, it's established very early on that the flirt options are entirely OPTIONAL and always UNSUCCESSFUL. It's not subtle about this, either -- they're just there to give the game some flavor and humor.

>Ha, ha. Yeah, to think that Hugo award winning best short story by Harlan Ellison could compete with Hideo Kojima... Rope yourself, faggot.
Nice try on the straw man, faggot, but we were talking about the GAME, not the story. The short story is a masterpiece. The game is a complete fucking turd and ruins so much of what made the story good.
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>>12851341
>zero arguments
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>>12851350
I accept your concession of defeat.
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>>12851053
maybe if it ever gets translated, but until then i'll just play the ps1 version
There's always this version kek
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>>12851190
None of what you said makes sense.
All of the games you listed are mediocre at best and have nothing on Snatcher, even looking past the story.
The sexual options are entirely optional and they reflect your own actions, you don't have to flirt with Mika or smell panties to progress (I didn't even know about that panties part until today and I beat the game twice).
As for your take on the Snatchers and the plot, you're either trolling or you're a leftist zoomer with brainrot and can't understand the most basic storytelling.
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>>12850130
It's an adventure game, and is kinda juvenile
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>>12851053
>PC Engine
Music sucks in that one, absolutely horrid.
The actual best version would be either translated PC88 or retranslated MSX2 with optimized loading. Third act? More like turd act!
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>>12850946
all of that "gay stuff" existed way before the term cyberpunk was even coined. you've been brain-broken by social media
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>>12851179
Policenauts is great to put on if you want to go to sleep quick. What a fucking disappointment
>>12851478
Faggots and transmonsters took over niche communities and a lot of internet discourse
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>>12850114
It's okay, fist chapter is the best one, then it goes downhill, so you get only rushed loredrop-clifhanger for the sequel that didn't happen
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>>12851054
That puzzles easy but who the fuck thought it was a good idea to require looking at EVERYTHING in the dead junkers house to progress past one part? I cant remember when but I forgot to look at a closed window in his house and couldn't progress. Took me a while to figure that out. I do like how you can keep sniffing the daughter there until she kicks you out.
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>>12851278
>>12851279
Why can't games nowadays be this kino? We've evolved on so many fucking fronts, yet nowadays all games are so pussyfied and transcoded that we haven't had really kino stuff happen in games since the early 2000s

Gillian Seed would try to fuck any women he thought were remotely attractive by day, kill terminator like evil robots by night and had a cool robot companion. What an amazing protagonist.
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>>12852190
More like Gillian SNEED! SON OF A JANNY!
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>>12851518
To be fair, you need a very high IQ to appreciate Policenauts
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>>12850114
> shitty ripoff of other franchises
But it is?
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>>12853013
It borrows so much from everything else it becomes its own thing.
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Friendly reminder it got referenced in Ghost in the Shell

the original from 1989.

Just what you'd expect from La Creaturidad
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>>12850151
It was made by Kojimbo
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>>12850946
Source on your wild take on punk?

Really sounds like the punks bullied you at school for being a massive faggot
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>>12852190
what do you mean? modern gaming is literally kino gaming, it's just cutscene without gameplay, you holding forward
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>>12853531
The Unabridged Oxford English Dictionary.
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>>12851053
>if you want the hardcore/raw/uncensored one that most reflects Kojimas direction
The nudity is one thing, but removing the panties actually makes the game better because the ostensible reason for Gillian opening the shower is he thinks there's a burglar or a Snatcher, which is stupid when he can hear the shower running but particularly retarded if a little girl's panties are lying on the floor.
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>>12850114
Metal Gear is a cunny?
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What's the best way to play SD Snatcher?
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>>12855407
project melancholia translation and emulating msx turbo r because it also has all the fixes built in
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>>12855318
It makes the scene better because he knows it's not a burglar and just wants to see a naked girl
Gillian is the most realistic protag
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>>12850114
>MY NEO KOBE PIZZA!
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>>12852991
>smell
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>>12855407
Don't kek
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>>12852991
This.
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