>OG FF Tactics is widely regarded as a masterpiece >the translation has a couple minor issues but is overall regarded as very solid>remake the game>rather than just clean up spelling/grammar errors and minor clarity/mistranslation issues, they completely rewrote the entire script>new script takes massive creative liberties and largely ignores the original Japanese>has some pretentious, flowery, faux-Shakespeare garbage for every single character, even bandits and peasants, that sounds like it was written by high-school drama students>also completely butcher the sound effects and music>also completely butcher the pixel art>also have massive slowdown for spells that makes them run at like half speed>also totally removes the spell chants>but if you ask anywhere online, reddit, resetera, etc. they will universally tell you WotL is somehow the definitive and to ignore the originalWhat the actual fuck? Is this some kind of psy-op or are people just this willfully ignorant?
>>12852826My brother in Christ. You already know the answer is the latter. Yes, things really are that bad.
>>12852826Thanks for the warning, anon. I was planning to replay FF Tactics after 20 years and was thinking about playing the remake but will just play the original now.
>>12852826I'm replaying and went with the WotL version and like the script better personally
>>12852826>>OG FF Tactics is widely regarded as a masterpiecestopped reading hereonly jornos and pseuds through of overrated turd as anything but a 6/10 slop
>>12852826>reddit, resetera,you have to go back
>>12852835he's talking about the psp versionthe translation is superior and the slowdown was patched 20 fucking years ago>>12852865only ESLs bitch about the Shakespeare. Shitskins genuinely hate it.
>>12852826>OG FF Tactics is widely regarded as a masterpiece ...Is it? It was certainly well-reviewed on release, and I don't think many people would call it outright bad, but I feel like its luster has waned considerably over the years with so many later tactics games that are less frustrating to play.Like, the third fight in this game is a protect-the-hostage stage where you can't control the hostage and sometimes the hostage just fucking dies before you can do anything to save him. That doesn't exactly scream "masterpiece" to me.
>>12852869Looks like you stopped reading anything but social media a couple of decades ago.
>>12853004>the translation is superior and the slowdown was patched 20 fucking years agoI was wondering that because the PSP version I'm playing doesn't have any slowdown I've noticed. Personally I think it's a pretty solid port. >>12853073>Like, the third fight in this game is a protect-the-hostage stage where you can't control the hostage and sometimes the hostage just fucking dies before you can do anything to save him. He's an NPC, of course you don't control him. Literally never had him die on me, I don't know what you're doing if that's an issue.
>>12852826>OG FF Tactics is widely regarded as a masterpieceEh, I thought so as well when I was a kid, but nowadays I can see the blatant flaws in both story and Job system. "Was" fits better than "is".>the translation has a couple minor issues but is overall regarded as very solidDunno about "couple" and "minor" but sure, you still got the story.>remake the gameSee, this is where I got confused because Matsuno is a useless fuck and only remakes his old games now, and FFT got two re-releases: WotL and TIC.>they completely rewrote the entire scriptClearly this is what Matsuno wanted from the start because he's been working with Alexander O.Smith and Joseph Reeder for every EN version of his games since Vagrant Story - VS, FFXII, TO remakes, FFT remakes, all of them have "pretentious, flowery, faux-Shakespeare garbage". If Matsuno didn't like the result he'd replace both of them eons ago.>also completely butcher the sound effects and musicIIRC EN version of WotL had some SFX bugs, but only TIC re-recorded SFX. Don't think music was touched in either of remakes.>also completely butcher the pixel artPSP WotL did absolutely nothing with it; iOS WotL did update the sprites, but it looked fine on phone screen. TIC is where you got godawful bloom filters on top of ported iOS WotL sprites.>also have massive slowdown for spells that makes them run at like half speedEN WotL version is infamous for it yeah - JP WotL worked fine, this is NISA tier of incompetence. Thankfully, you can patch it.>also totally removes the spell chantsAnother issue of EN WotL - they're present in JP WotL but code monkeys fucked up EN release. I don't remember if this was eventually patched or not.>but if you ask anywhere online, reddit, resetera, etc.Correction - "they will universally tell you TIC is somehow the definitive and to ignore the original and WotL". It's hip to suck off the latest release and trash the old ones because... because!
>>12852826actually they remade it again and people say the new remake is the definitive edition now. it's an even more butchered version of the first remake
>>12852826I like the WOTL translation because I played it first and have nostalgia for itchadface.jpg>>12853004Iām a shitskin and I like Shakespeare >>12853482To be fair to that anon, you can lose protect quests off rip, like the Marquis Elmdore fight on the rooftop where you have to protect the wonder twins. He and his demon assassins have such a high speed stat they can one shot the twins before you take your first turn.
>OG FF Tactics is widely regarded as a masterpieceSince when lmao? FFT was always mid.Anyway. The creator literally called the original translation shit so there's nothing you can do about it op
>muh translationcringe. like every ff, your group of heroes travels the world collecting macguffins so you can defeat the evil boss. the retarded story is only there as an excuse to have the video game. its fine for what it is. dont tell me you guys actually read all those optional walls of text throughout the game
>>12853865It's a jrpg I'm not playing for the gameplay here retard give me a plot
>>12853872>plotfirst of all it's literally a STRPG (strategy role playing game) anon it's a grid based game with unique units that get into more bizarre battles with bandits leading to monsters & gods m8the plot is always secondary to this no matter what,you want plot go play the grandia games on PS1
>>12853875FFT gameplay is awful. Shining force was always better
>>12853852How would the guy that doesn't know English have any idea if the translation was any good? Do you really think he played it and noticed himself rather than the publisher telling him to use it as a selling point for the new game? You're really not that gullible are you?
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https://automaton-media.com/en/news/dragon-quest-creator-yuji-horii-says-english-translations-inevitably-strip-away-a-lot-of-a-games-flavor/The Japanese think that english translations are shit.
>>12853895>Tiptoe forward to win simulator has better gameplay
>>12854354i already knew, anon.>>12854427you don't need to unless you're underlevelled and insist on using every single character that SF throws at you.
>>12852826>>OG FF Tactics is widely regarded as a masterpiece Eh sure, I'll let you have it>>the translation has a couple minor issues but is overall regarded as very solidNo it wasn't. We've been making fun of that translation for 30 years. Everyone knew the translation was bad, we just put up with it because the game was good. "This was the darkened items won't appear" isn't good, no matter what your revised history says.I agree WotL is shit, but that just means FFT doesn't have a good translation. (WotL was not Alex O. Smith, check the credits you retards) If you want a good FFT script, learn Japanese
>>12852826I like war of the lions because it I had it on my PspGO and Vita so I could just give a friend a system and battle.
>>12854349Lol exactly. He didn't play it and really has no idea how awful WotL really is
>>12852826>written by high-school drama studentsdingdingding
>>12854349WOTL would be like WHAT INFERNAL MACHINATIONS DOST THOU WEAVE BENEATH THE SANCTIFIED VEIL OF THIS MOST AUGUST PLACE, THAT SUCH BALEFUL MISCHIEF SHOULD DARE TO TAKE ROOT WITHIN ITS HALLOWED PRECINCTS
>>12853004>translationWay too fast and loose to call it that.
>>12852826Every year that goes by I learn more and more to only ever play the original releases, even with their quote unquote imperfections. You could not touch up the Mona Lisa and say it was better than the original, which has appealed to people for centuries for reasons that cannot be recreated or improved upon despite its own flaws.
>>12854354The Japanese think everything is shit
FFT and FFTA are unplayable imo. There's no changing room option in either game like there is in FFTA2 so it's a fucking nightmare trying to know what gear to buy. No thank you.
>>12857369>no changing room option?
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