Why havent retro PC games had a renaissance like consoles? Shit is actually a lot higher IQ than anything we got back then.
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>>12900765You answered your own question.
>>12900765Why is there a Playstation logo on that computer?
>>12900774ai slop
>>12900765A lot of games you'd want to play like System Shock, HoMM 3 and so on, people are playing through remasters and remakes. Multiplayer games like AoE2, SC, WC3, DotA, etc are often still getting updates and are still getting played. Others like Doom or Quake still live through mods, fan content, and nightdive remakes. That is, a lot of retro pc gaming still feels current and supported.
>>12900765believe it or not, it's because most pc games fucking sucked. doom, starcraft, diablo etc are extreme outliers - most western games (which is 99% of pc games) were absolute shit until gen 5.
>>12900765console games are intuitive and made for childrenpc games are less accessible and often require you to read a manual
You can just play them on modern PCs for the most part OP, unless they were a forgotten dogshit game no one cares about and were for Windows 95/98/XP
>>12900765PC gaming just doesn't have the generational mentality of consoles. You can play essentially any game made for the platform on a modern PC. GOG does alright for people that just wanna simplify the process
>>12900765retro consoles had a renaissance?
What do you mean exactly? There's lots of retro style indie games and remasters of retro shit.
>>12900774You couldn't tell, but this is an AI image.
>>12900934redditors are soijacking all over jewtube and shit over old snes n64 ps2 etc. arcade gets no love except for a few autists, and pc gets even less love than that. for handheld the normgroids pretend it only does pokemon
>>12900996What do you want them to do? Recommend old games you get on steam and gog?
>>12900996There's plenty of channels that talk about retro PC games. It's the old home micros like the Speccy that get little love.
>>12900996There's plenty of retro focused pc channels anon. Popular ones even
>>12900765PC games were mainly a western space, and western games weren't good until the PS1 (with obvious exceptions like Doom and DKC).
>>12900765Why would I can't a bunch of old PC's when I can run almost anything on my modern PC?
>>12901045>Why would I can't a bunch of old PC'sSaaaar
>>12901052BENCHOD
>>12900765accessibility. now that you can easily port these games to run natively on modern systems you'll see exactly that. i've already ported two old games that I previously had to slog through via emulation to run natively on my Linux desktop it's awesome.
>>12900765>Why havent retro PC games had a renaissance like consoles?What did the child mean by this?
Too many barriers to be a practical idea when DOSBox and VirtualPC images does just fine for the most part.
>>12900765>>12900996>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHY DON'T NORMIES PLAY OLD GAMES ANYMORE ALL THEY DO IS PLAY FORKNITH AND MINECRAFT>normies get into retro games>REEEEEEEEEEEEE WHO TOLD THE NORMIE NIGGERS ABOUT MY HOBBY REEEEEEEEEEEEE IT'S RUINED I CAN'T AFFORD THEM ANYMORE REEEEEEEEEEEE WHAT YOUTUBER DID THIS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEi'd delight in bashing your head in with a breaking bar
>>12901169This, old computers suck and there's no reason to dig them out or get one on ebay, and I'm saying this as someone into old tech. A console from the era will likely just werk, where as an old ass computer has too many variables that go wrong, like hard drives and shit, and it ends up being a time and money sink that's not worth it in the end when setting up a VM is ultimately free in the end and isn't a shameful paperweight.Old computers were a pain in the ass to deal with back then, and are even more of a pain in the ass to deal with now, and all the games worth a damn have a modern way to play.
>>12900765>Shit is actually a lot higher IQ than anything we got back then.You aren't that different from modern console players
>>12900890ThisThe whole notion of retro gaming just isn't as meanigful of a term for PC gamers as it is for console gamers
>>12901171you wont do shit pussy. go back to your pokemon romhack title screens
>>12901969Indeed, though there are what one could call eras that roughly correspond to the introduction of new technology, such as sound cards and VGA graphics, CD-ROM and the multimedia push, and of course 3D accelerators and Windows finally overtaking DOS.
>>12901980neither will you, you'll still be screeching about "normies" when you're dying alone and childless on your deathbed. a lifetime of seething over people that don't even know you exist.
>>12900996You've never heard of Ross's Game Dungeon?
>>12901198Eh, I feel the opposite.Most of the old computer hardware without moving parts that has survived so far has done so because it's rock solid. Most of the crap hardware has broken and burnt out already. And most of the hardware with moving parts can be replaced with modern solid state devices. CF to IDE adapters are dirt cheap, and so are (IDE)CF cards, so there's no reason to even bother with spinning disk HDDs anymore. And for OSes where larger CF cards cost more than peanuts, you can throw a cheap small SSD in there with a SATA to IDE adapter. Gotek floppy drive emulators are far superior to floppy disks. There's even a CD-ROM drive emulator in the works for old PCs.If anything, retro PC gaming is far less of a hassle today than it was during it's era, and we have far more resources available to us now. Back then I was stuck reading PC magazines trying to get info about computers and computer parts. Now I can google up the part and every individual component on the board and get datasheets and drivers and everything else. Back then I was desperately trying to analyze GPU's by the tech specs listed on the boxes in the store, knowing only bigger number is better. Now I know to check to see what DirectX and OpenGL version is supported, and to pay attention to drivers and bus sizes.It's much better now. Far less questions and tweaking, far more gaming.
>>12900786>the butthurt weeb screeches angrily at the clouds
>>12900765>Why havent retro PC games had a renaissance like consoles? But they have? They released collections of the Gold Box RPG's, there was an Alien Breed collection that just released, The Last Ninja just had a collection release, there's a ton of classics you can get on STEAM or GOG...What exactly do you mean by "renaissance"?
>>12902070they know I exist, they revolve their entire lives around coping about being worse than me
>>12900890>You can play essentially any game made for the platform on a modern PC. GOG does alright for people that just wanna simplify the processExcept for that brief span of time where Microsoft tried raping customers once again with Vista, essentially bricking every single previous generation of video game older than Microsoft XP.
>>12900786>doom, starcraft, diabloAll shit
>>12900765That's not the first level of episode one of DOOM
Imagine you would get a computer from 1990>but what if I get one from 1994? Then it could run Doom well, and still run all my other games>but what if I get one from 1996? Then it could run Quake well, and still run all my other games>but what if I get one from 1998? Then it could run Half-Life well, and still run all my other gamesetc, eventually you realize that you already have a computer
>>12902070You're going to be even more terrified on your deathbed if you have kids so yeah, have fun with that lmao
>>12902221Actual schizophrenia
>>12900765what the fuck is high IQ about doom you ape
>>12900765>Why havent retro PC games had a renaissance like consoles? Shit is actually a lot higher IQ than anything we got back then.because most of them are too old for zoomies to understand or care about. this means there's less revenue to make off of them. since a lot of game studios were bought up for fuck all by the bigger players we will never see many of these old games ever again.
>>12900786this is why we need age verification
>>12902087Looks scary. Will there be skeletons in there?
>>12900786This.
>>12900765Because old computer components are scarce and expensive. We have this conversation every few weeks, you can stop posting now. You're not going to get a different answer.
>>12900765zoomers can't deal with tech more complicated than a tablet. It's millenials and older who mostly care about old PC games. Basically if you're too young to experience big box PC games you're too young to care and are most probably a console kid.Wonder how there is a huge nostalgia boom about 6th and 7th gen console games now and nothing about PC games from that era? For one, it's because those PC games are usually still very playable (just install it and play on modern systems) and purchasable today. They basically never left the gamers' conciousness, so little nostalgia could accumulate. And the other part is that PC gaming was slowly falling into a slump,with few truly good exclusives. A huge talking point was how PC gaming was dying, being killed by the 360 and PS3. Some years later it was the very same consoles that helped PCs recover (512MB Ram in 2012? lmao).>>12904147They've gotten expensive after 2021. Before, you could get cases, monitors, parts and games for real cheap, except for some memed stuff like Voodoo cards, now an old used CD/DVD drive cost you 20 bucks. The cheap shit is now Vista/W7 era stuff, and they won't gain much value with time, because for games of that era, no age-specific hardware is needed. Also early era flatscreens are literal trash. But I feel the bubble has burst a bit. I.e. PVMs are half the price now and monitors have plateaued somewhat. It's all a quite high niveau overall though.You can still make a decent deal outside the most sought for hardware. Buy a tier or two lower (but a newer gen maybe) and save money, without really losing compatibility, performance or credibility and save some real money.
>>12900765>why can't I make money flipping this shitkys
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>>12900786>>12901021TRVKE
>>12904179Just COVID and shipping inflation. Phil of Phil's Computer Lab recently posted something about how he tried to sell off his excess computer gear, and outside of meme stuff like Voodoo and SoundBlaster cards, it wouldn't move even at large discounts. He says the prices are higher, but it's mostly large resellers sitting on stock waiting for the occasional desperate industrial/business that NEEDS an old PC or PC part to get their system back to working.In my own experience, just put old PC items you are interested on ebay in your watchlist. In a day or two most sellers will offer you a discount. If you see any listed with the option to make an offer, try offering $5. Anything high-end, like the absolute last GPU's to have Win9x drivers, or the fastest 2D ISA16/PCI VGA cards, will come at a premium and have more "I know what I have" sellers, but the majority of stuff available is mid-tier or worse.
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>>12901021>if i keep repeating the lie, eventually it will come true!ahh
>>12904997SAMEFAG
>>12905265>best games according to journalistsOk, but that doesn't describe my taste. What was the western contemporary to Ninja Gaiden? Or Mega Man 2? Or Sonic?
>>12905393>but that doesn't describe my tasteWhy should I give a shit about your taste exactly?>What was the western contemporary to Ninja Gaiden? Or Mega Man 2? Or Sonic?What was the Japanese equivalent to Star Control 2? Or SimCity? Or Wing Commander?
>>12900765Because they suck. I tried getting into retro computers late last year and now I'm selling off all of them because they're retarded.Except the PC98. I'm keeping that one. But I know that's not the games you're talking about because you're a faggot.
>>12905440>SimCityThe Japanese version, which was reprogrammed by Japanese people which is why it's actually a good game.
>>12905449>Except the PC98. I'm keeping that one. But I know that's not the games you're talking about because you're a faggot.TRANSLATION:>I don't like good games>I like dogshit slideshow eroge visual novelsRetarded weeb
>>12905451I don't play eroge, try again.
>>12905450The only reason it didn't end up a mess of shit when ported to the SNES was because Wright was there to Tard-wrangle Miyamoto, after Nintendo botched every other computer game port.
>>12905453>I don't play visual novelsThen you don't play anything on it, since that was what 80% of its library consisted of, and how Konami made most of their money in the early days.
>>12905456That's like saying the only reason Star Fox turned out good was because Argonaut was there to tard-wrangle Miyamoto, and yet Argonaut has never developed a good game besides the two that they assisted Nintendo with.
>>12905461I didn't say I don't play visual novels, I said I don't play eroge. Believe it or not most games on the PC98 aren't eroge, they only make up around 25% of the library. Just admit that you know nothing about PC98.
>>12905462>That's like saying the only reason Star Fox turned out good was because Argonaut was there to tard-wrangle Miyamoto, and yet Argonaut has never developed a good game besides the two that they assisted Nintendo with.You mean aside from Starglider 1 and 2, which they made and inspired Nintendo to hire them in the first place? Lmao>>12905465>they only make up 25% of the libraryImagine saying that with a straight face, like if I said "Porn games only make up 25% of the PS1 Library", lmao.>Believe it or not most games on the PC98 aren't erogeThey might as well be, since that's all anyone's interested in. Oh, lemme guess, you really REALLY like Dead of the Brain?
>>12905440>Star Control 2? Or SimCity? Or Wing Commander?Use case for these shitty games when EVE Online et al exist? Ninja Gaiden is still a great game today: Wing Commander is not.
>>12905472>EVE onlineCompletely different game to Wing Commander, holy shit you're stupid.>Ninja Gaiden is still a great game todayGets shit all over by Sekiro, takes a big dumpster-sized diarrhea shit all over that faggy ass shit-tastic retard game.
>>12905475>Completely different game to Wing Commander, holy shit you're stupid.Star Control, mate. Never mind that you are missing the forest for the trees regardless of whether any of these games' modern successors are EVE specifically.
>>12905470They made a game that showed they had technical capability. Being technically capable doesn't mean you can make a good game. Case and point, Croc shows that they were technically capable of making a game like Super Mario 64, but also shows that they were incapable of making a good game like Super Mario 64.As for PC98, I mostly play RPGs. I'm currently working on Popful Mail.
>>12900765Has doom ever really gone out of style? If you own the doom 1 and doom 2 wads, you can download a source port and a handful of mods and transform it into any game you want it to be within 10 minutes. id released the source code a long time ago. The reason the ai stuff is such a big deal now is because games that don’t have publicly available source code and doesn’t have an army of trannies dedicating their lives to reverse engineering it can finally, someday soon, get the doom treatment.
>>12905487>Being technically capable doesn't mean you can make a good gameCool, but Starglider 1 and 2 were critical and commercial successes on the PC. End of story, end of argument.>Super Mario 64, but also shows that they were incapable of making a good game like Super Mario 64.So your example why Starglider isn't a good game, is because Croc wasn't a good game? Wow, amazing retard logic, I wish I was stupid enough to understand it.>I'm currently working on Popful Mail.Didn't ask.
>>12905449>I tried getting into retro computers late last year and now I'm selling off all of themworst.larp.ever
>>12905495Just because a game is commercially successful doesn't mean it's good. For example, look at Call of Duty or literally any Ubisoft game ever.>So your example why Starglider isn't a good game, is because Croc wasn't a good game? No. Learn how to read. Croc is an example of how they had the technical ability to make a game like Super Mario 64, but lacked the ability to make a good game like Super Mario 64. Star Glider is an example of how they had the technical ability to make a game like Star Fox, but lacked the ability to make a game as good as Star Fox.>Didn't ask.You literally did.>>12905496It's not a larp. I picked up all of the major micros and some old PCs. But the games suck so I'm selling most of them.
>>12905512>It's not a larp. I picked up all of the major micros and some old PCs. But the games suck so I'm selling most of them.again, nice larp
>>12905512>Just because a game is commercially successful doesn't mean it's good. Correct, which is why Starglider 1 and 2 are considered good, they were critically successful...?>For example, look at Call of Duty or literally any Ubisoft game ever.Splinter Cell Chaos Theory is one of the best stealth games ever made.....???>Star Glider is an example of how they had the technical ability to make a game like Star Fox, but lacked the ability to make a game as good as Star Fox.Except they DID make Star Fox, you fucking idiot.
>>12905528They assisted in making Star Fox. You should really look at the game credits. They really only did some technical stuff.
>>12905528Star Fox 64 mogs the 10fps SNES game
>>12905530The entire prototype on which Star Fox is based is from a prototype that Argonaut built. In fact, it was Argonaut who assisted in helping Nintendo decide on how to build the SNES, specifically because they wanted Starglider that badly.You have no idea what you're talking about, your "opinions" are in glaring opposition to reality, and you seem to have a very loose understanding on what constitutes a "good" game.
>>12905535cartridge*Forgot that. How to build the SNES "cartridge".
>>12905535How does any of this make Star Fox more fun than Mega Man X?
>>12905539What does that have to do with the price of apples in Zimbabwe?
>>12905535Prototypes are just tech demos, they're not games and lack everything that makes a good game. Also the prototype was X on the Game Boy.
>>12905512>larps about not larpinglarpception
>>12900765a i slop garbage bot reply engagement farm
>>12905512Not sure why people think you're lying I made the same mistake. I was hoping to sell it on ebay to an enthusiast who might want to pick some of it up for cheap but I'm probably just going to end up throwing it all in the garbage. I don't want to throw it out but I just have no use for it, most of the games suck and playing them on a modern PC is better anyway.
I'm glad it hasn't. The only issue I see with a strong community like doom and quake is the prevalence of the modders becoming faggot trannies. The games and mods are still good and there is a certain level of exclusivity to keep faggots from ruining things.
>>12906228>samefags himself to pretend extra he isn't larpingHoly larp-a-moly
>>12905449>All the games on PC were shit, so I "upgraded" to the PC-98>A computer platform with even less games, that have far less gameplay
What's the western answer to Zero's swordplay in MMX4? Fucking Blood Omen?
>>12900765Most PC games sucked ass. Anything that was good and didn't get overshadowed by better games from same genre are still beloved and have some level of community behind them. Like how UT master server is restored and there are still people. And how Q3 forum is revived. But really there is no DOS equivalent of NES Mario, NES Batman, Sega Sonic etc...
>>12900765Compatibility issues. It's easier to run the console version of the game on an emulator.
>>12910990>NES Mario>Sega Sonicyou mean a brand mascot designed for the purpose of marketing a company's product? you're right, PC never had that
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>>12910990There are orders of magnitudes more DOS games than there are games for any given console. They never got sucked off by critics or even advertised that much because they weren't made for lowest common denominator consumers like console games are.
>>12911032>they weren't made for lowest common denominator consumersOh yeah all those edutainment games were truly peak ludo
>>12911035>he only knows SNES games with mario in itconsole kiddies flipped their shit and went crazy over mario paint
>>12911039The average PC "game" in the 90's was a win32 clicking simulator without any 3D acceleration. Why exactly am I meant to find such games better than Castlevania?
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>>12911051>released on November 16, 2002So completely beyond the scope of OP's query?
>>12911051>Castlevania and Contra: Konami Collector's Series, released in 2002 for the PC>2002
>>12911043>the average PC game in the 90s was [head canon]. Why am I supposed to find it better than [specific game that was also on PC]?We can do the same handwaving for consoles and say the average console game is a licensed sports gameI'm playing castlevania iii now but after I finish I'm going to play Genocide for the X68000
>>12911056>specific game that was also on PCLmao, do you really want to go there? Show me how good the contemporary PC versions of Castlevania were.
>>12911059there was a remake of castlevania i that was pc exclusive for a while, it got ported to the ps1 though
>>12911060>there was a remake of castlevania i that was pc exclusive for a while, it got ported to the ps1 though>X68000>PC
>>12911062yeah x68000 was a personal computer
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>>12901009What? There's tons of British Youtubers that do Speccy and C64 material. Did you even look?
>>12911035>all those edutainment gameswas that the only thing you played on a PC?
>>12905265>dozens of missing titlesevery time you post you just turn yourself into a bigger lolcow than you already were. it's amazing how stupid you are.
>>12911078>screencapping your own cringe twitter account and crying about /vr/>on twitterlolcows will do shit like this when they get btfo every single day
>>12911027Okay. NES Batman, Duck Hunt>>12911032Okay name 10 hidden gems.
>the "Everything that isn't a PC is actually a PC" faggot is in this thread now
>>12911130>dozens of missing titlesI think there's like, 5 titles that were added since it's been updated.Why are you just a projecting NEET weebtard?
>>12911134It's an edit you retard
>>12911060Chronicles was a completely different game and it was shit. I hate the zoomer term "artificial difficulty" but that game is not fun because of artificial difficulty.
>>12901198>I'm saying this as someone into old techSo you're shitposting from a hand me down obamaphone. Got it.
>>12913495No, I literally took the vintage tech pill and ordered that shit off ebay, and it's been mostly stress and money sinks, when really the best move was to wait for virtual machines to become worth a damn, I have a bunch of powerbooks and even a fucking power mac that just ends up collecting dust because I don't have any real practical use for it, even the software on it is kinda "Whatever... I don't feel like playing that now" when I think about it.I mean, I guess I could install my mac copy of Sim Life on the thing and think "Yeah, neat... whatever..."
>>12914548>No, I literally watched some reatrded zoomer youtube and did some reatrded zoomer shit and now imagine that was """the vintage tech pill"""zoomers. lol.
>>12911484Huh?
>>12914821you're probably just one of those price gouging ebay sellers seething that someone is telling the truth instead of just parroting losers like LGR that have centered their lives around hoarding garbage.
>>12916160>i'm absolutely just one of those poor angry ebay buyers seething that gainfully employed grownups have something i want
>>12916253I'm not buying your trash, if I want to see how bad an s3 virge was I'll just use 86box
>>12916287>I'm not buying anything cause I'm underage and unemployed
>>12900765This is AI>E1M1>blinds open>screen visiblenever seen anything like it
>>12905265>Battletoads is missingThis image is total lies
>>12918045My favorite game of all-time (of all-time), CNHABUMEER is right there though.
>>12900765I'm going to buy a 5:4 monitor from the 2000s... talk me out of it.
>>12900765Ah yes, ckhabumefr, my favorite game
>>12900774makes me wonder, why didn't sony ever get into the computer business?
>>12918920They did. The SMC-70 and SMC-777 to name some non-MSXs. They made UNIX workstations (NEWS) and the occasional "portable word processor" as they like to call it.
>>12918798why not a 4:3 or 16:10?
>>12900765Because as far as PC users are concerned, anything that isn't on Steam might as well not exist
>>12900765Going back to using old PCs is really difficult due to the old hardware and operating system. TThe backward compatibility nature of the PC platform makes returning to older hardware redundant for many people.
>>12900765I actually have zero fuckin idea how to make retro PC games work on my own. I have that Windows 98 pack virtual machine thing from an anon here and otherwise I'm at the mercy of official releases that add compatibilities
>>12918920Never heard of the vaio line that aesthetic fags gush over?
>>12918798Are there even drivers for it?
>>12920030With rare exceptions, monitors don't require any special drivers, only that the video card support their native resolution, which virtually all of them do and have since the late 90s.
>>12900765Because the system to run them on never truly went away, like the Nintendos and Segas long forgotten in the storage or sold at a yard sale.And there's no singular beloved "retro pc" identity etched in everyones minds. If you say SNES, or Genesis, or PSX, or C64, or ZX Spectrum, everyone more or less recalls the exact same image and experience.
>>12918798Nah, fuck widescreen
>>12920442This basically, you ask a room of retro computer guys what kind of games they like, what era of hardware they prefer using(if they use real hardware and not emulation/virtualizattion), they're all going to have massively varied tastes. You're bound to have some overlap, but no one has the same tastes in things. One guy may like AT/XT machines, someone else likes late Pentium 3's and Voodoos, another guy just loves his 486. One of them says fuck all that and runs 86box or DOSbox on a modern PC. That one guy really fucks with Apple computers, the boomer in the back worships his ZX Spectrum and Amigas. There really is no cohesive single identity to personal computer gaming, always been that way and still applies today.
this board is dead as hell
Somewhat on topic.I've been fascinated with old RPGs from the 80s on and off for the past year or so.the Ultima series just released on Steam, The steam rereleases of the Gold Box RPGs are on sale too. and I just saw Might and Magic on sale on GOG.Should I just splurge and get them all, or just dip my toe in, and hope for another sale soon after I figure out if I'm as invested as I think I will be? Also, I don't have a GOG account, and I'm on Linux, so I'm not sure how well I'll get some of these to run without pre-configured proton prefixes.A bit shamefully, there's part of me that just wants to own all of these games even if I know I won't be playing most of them any time soon. I'm already in the middle of a list of RPGs that progressively range from 90s old to released a few years ago old.
>>12920507>GOGGOG installers have zero DRM, making GOG releases the easiest way to get games for free
>>12920517man, that's probably the right way to look at this. Maybe I'll buy them eventually, but for now, if I just want to try them out, no one's going to care that I'm pirating a bunch of 40 year old games.There's still the aspect of wanting to own them to see them on my steam game list, but I recognize that it's pretty superficial.
>>12900765Consoles run on different rules than PC. Consoles were made to run those games and just those games (if you're lucky, the games of that company's previous console too)PCs today can run every PC game to ever exist. You may have to finale some things, you may need to use DOSbox, you may need a cracked exe because the game had Securom, but regardless having a 5060ti gpu does not stop me from being able to play HoMM3
>>12920507The Might and Magic bundle is only 5.55, more than affordable. If you want the most bang-for-your-buck with the Goldbox games, get Collection Two. Both together is around 10$, which if you consider that "splurging", you should be getting a better job, not wasting time on video games.The only one even semi-pricey is the Ultima collection, but it was still cheap enough that I just bought it together with the Wing Commander collection.If you buy all of them, it's only 35$, and for it, you're getting 28 games, well worth the price if you're already invested in the genre and the era. Even if you end up only liking like, 5 of the games, that's still well worth the price, since each game would effectively be equivalent to 7$ if you look at it from a cost effectiveness angle.
>>12900765> Shit is actually a lot higher IQ than anything we got back then.You DID get it back then. Well, not you in particular, but the collective "you".
>>12920531Yeah, I'm getting a bit bent out of shape over a total of less than $50. ($18 for the Gold Box Classics, $24 for Ultima, and $5 for M&M)Maybe it's more so that my list of unplayed games is still pretty large, and I've been very slowly making progress on it, and this feels like undoing it.I think I might have something diagnosable with all this neurosis over video games. I should just pick one of the random open world games from 2007-2014 that I bought on steam sale, and stop thinking about it. (I probably won't though.)
>>12920539>Maybe it's more so that my list of unplayed games is still pretty large, and I've been very slowly making progress on it, and this feels like undoing it.Nigga please. Just buy the Ultima collection.
>>12920539Any list of games exist to pick something when you don't know what to play. Play what you feel like playing, you won't play every good game ever made nevermind every game in general even if you are an ultra NEET.
>>12920551Well that does make me feel better I guess. I know I'm not in as bad a spot as others, especially those who frequent humble bundles. For context of picrel, the lower the "hand" rating, the less completely I've played it.>>12920603The issue with that kind of thinking for me specifically is that it leads to me just playing the same few games for years. I'm trying to actually expand my horizons here so that I could find a more fully formed taste in games. It's why I've stopped playing MMOs, because they take up way too much time.Each game, barring bundle stowaways, is a game that I decided to give up some money in order to own. So there's a part of me who just feels like I owe it to myself to at least give it a shot. I'm not aiming to complete every game, just figure out where they belong in this pic's list ranking.
Because it's completely unnecessary. Consoles historically succeeded because they were specialized machines. An SNES/Saturn/PS2 have nothing in common architecturally. If you want to play a Saturn game natively, you must own that specific piece of hardware with its twin CPUs and custom video processors.PCs on the other hand have been bound by the constraints of IBM x86 compatibility for over forty years. An Intel Core i9 or AMD Ryzen chip today still speaks the same foundational language as an Intel 386 from 1985. Because this cahin never broke, software layers like DOSBox, PCem, and modern virtualization can bridge the gaps easily. Your gpu doesn't care that a game was written for DirectX 6; it just sees instructions it knows how to process.
>>12918798>talk me out of it.probably low brightnessprobably very long persistence so movement will be blurryif you're getting a Dell similar to one in your image, then remove "probably"it's good as a secondary monitor but not very good for gamesdon't pay more than $20 for one
>>12920626Well your problem is that you look at the games as if to be completed, rather than individual games to just play on your own as you see fit.That's the problem with backlogs. When you start looking at it like work, you end up not having fun and then putting off your backlog even more. Just discern what you feel like playing in the moment, then find a game that matches that mood, and play it, even if it's a game you've already played before.
>>12921272Like I said, just "playing what I want in the moment" leads to me cycling between the same few games, and eventually just burning myself out from gaming as a whole. I've been through this before, so this is essentially an act of stepping out of my comfort zone, hoping to find a better variety of games to enjoy.It's not about finishing them, it's about giving them all a fail shot so I can finish them if I'm really into them, or safely drop them having made a more informed choice.
>>12921368Well re-organizing your STEAM games is the first step.If I could offer some advice, it would be to track less which games you have and haven't played, and track them by the genre's you most associate them with, so you can pick them out when you feel like playing something from them.If I don't like a game, like really don't like it, I simply hide it on my STEAM list, removing it from my list of games. I also track completed games by creating STEAM reviews of them, which also helps incentivize me to play new games, so I can leave new reviews.
Because on PC you can just play Ultima Underworld, you don't need a big company to "rediscover" it.
because computers back then were to solve equations, not to game. Shame through, noone knows about them anymore.
>>12922324I wish I could be as blissfully retarded as you.
>>12922324user is underage
>>12922324Why post if you know nothing?
>>12918798>I'm going to buy a 5:4 monitor from the 2000s... talk me out of it.I won't. I think mine is 4:3 Hewlett Packard. One would ask why, but it's really comfy on the eyes. I prefer it even. Of course the black is not really that black but it's not really a big deal.
>>12900765Entire thread based on a false premise. The more desirable retro PC hardware is expensive as shit. A Voodoo 2 alone goes for significantly more than any mainstream console on Ebay.
>>12922324People were playing Wizardry and Ultima on Apple II in 1981Why make such an egregiously incorrect post?
>>12900765What the fuck retarded kind of question are you even asking? What do you mean "renaissance"? People never STOPPED playing Doom. It never went away. Jesus christ I'm so fucking tired of these idiot faggot underage threads lasting for weeks, why do you dipshits reward this low quality trash?
>>12924029He means, when will youtubers start glazing that era, making videos about collecting and playing "hidden gems", and hiking up the price for old unopened games, like what happened with the pre-7th gen consoles around Covid.
>>12923665For some reason, zoomies are parroting some meme that the only people who had computers prior to the VGA DOS days were businesses, and people who just so happened to have a business computer they brought home. Dunno what e-celeb has been pushing this meme, but I don't get it either. Do they really think the C64 was a popular business machine with the built-in sound?
>>12924094there's no youtubers talking about it, no tiktok reels or new hd demakes about those games so to the zoomer mind they might as well not even have ever existed
>>12924094Use case for a computer at home before the internet?
>>12924114financeswritingGAYMAN
>>12924094I think the idea just comes from the computer mostly being a one-per household thing for a while, and generally living in an office or computer room rather than in every room.If gaming is all the computer is going to be used for, then chances are you're just going to get a game console. Computer games (as opposed to video games) were mostly the domain of older demographics like the mathematical Roleplaying Game, or the Text Adventure. These required you to use your brain a lot more than something like Donkey Kong or Sonic. Thus, video games were the domain of kids, and adults usually didn't have the time or desire to seek out computer games. That's why the computer was always seen as work first, gaming occasionally.
The first computer I owned in 2002, a 1,4 ghz Pentium 4 with 512 mb RAM and a Geforce 4 MX, was honestly a piece of shit. But it was MY piece of shit, so I didn't care ... until I got a Dell Dimension 9200 5 years later, that's when I realized just how fucking awful the old one was. The old one's power supply was ALWAYS LOUD, meanwhile the Dell was quiet, efficient cooling and very powerful for the time. The old one was outdated the moment I bought it, people who had processors with 3 Ghz were running circles around me. Battlefield 1942 ran like fucking shit. But at least I lived through the golden age of Half-Life mods and interesting Freeware vidya. Everything had so much soul, even when it sucked.
PC was absolute garbage prior to the CD-ROM era. For decent games you had to go toApple ][C64Amiga
>>12900765Price and low tech audience.
>>12902245Even the original looks kinda cool.
>>12905167True words. I used to sell "PC stuff" a few years ago and was making a few grand. Starting with 2025 hardly anybody is buying unless it's rare items. In the early 2000s one could buy "dream hardware"(given you're into that niche) for next to nothing. A Pentium60 system, for example, could be had for 20 Euros. Boatloads of PCs were given away for free from government / uni bureaus or labs.
>>12918798Bought one and it sucks compared to a scaler + newish LCD or CRT. I only use it for installing windows.
>>12900765Most major PC franchises from the 80s and 90s didn't survive the chaotic corporate climate. Brands got lost in IP limbo, got acquired and run into the ground by companies like EA, or just died quietly.
>>12900765pc games have always been playable on newer windows version mostly so there has never been the gen separation and needing emulators drawing attention to them because people just play them
>>12900765I loved CKHABUMEER so much, holy shit. Didn't know anyone else had it.
>>12900765Ah yes, the short lived 4⅓ floppy
>>12924304While there was a lot of text adventures and RPGs did rise to popularity in the 80's, there was plenty of action games and a good deal of early computer games were normie-friendly stuff like card games and board games. Also a ton of knock-off and official ports of arcade games like Asteroids, Space Invaders, Pac-Man, etc. Choplifter started it's career on the Apple II before getting ported to consoles and even the arcade. One on One: Dr. J vs. Larry Bird was also an Apple II original that showed people sports games didn't have to be all baseball, tennis, and football games, and could be very action oriented.>Computer games (as opposed to video games) were mostly the domain of older demographics like the mathematical Roleplaying Game, or the Text Adventure. These required you to use your brain a lot more than something like Donkey Kong or Sonic. Thus, video games were the domain of kids, and adults usually didn't have the time or desire to seek out computer games.Non-computer video games being the domain of kids(and losers) was a meme pushed by media, in shows and movies where only kids(and losers) play videogames and they all make bleeps and bloops like Pac-Man. Because the media didn't like videogames competing with the attention of their audience. The Atari 2600 and NES were cross-generationally popular. My grandmother could play the 2600 version of Pac-Man forever without ever dying, half the calls Nintendo Power got for the Legend of Zelda was from adults asking for hints, and NES Golf wasn't exactly popular with kids but sold quite well. Arcades weren't limited to kids either. My parents used to go out to a local arcade when they were dating in their late 20's, get stoned and play Centipede.
>>12923054while an ati rage 128 goes for like 10 bucks lmao
>>12925995Parts mainly go for high prices because they offer something unique (like the Glide API) or have historical significance. ATI cards like the Rage Fury MAXX (dual-GPU), Radeon SDR/DDR (first-ever Radeon) and Radeon 9700 Pro (destroyed two entire generations of Nvidia cards) go for a premium. Even a decent Rage 128 Pro with the actual 128-bit memory bus probably would if anyone knew what to look for amongst the sea of shitty, cut-down ones salvaged from shitty late 90s and early 00s prebuilts.
>>12901009Kids know nowt
>>12927663https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us89iCZJuCQ
>>12900765Games without smooth scrolling aren't worth playing
