Previous thread: >>12824609>Try to keep things /vr/ related: Focus should be on 6th Gen Consoles and older. Slight off topic is fine so long as it's related to CRTs, such as later 16:9 models, HD models, etc. Systems with backwards compatibility are also safe territory, as are re-releases on newer hardware. PC CRTs are also welcome and appreciated.>Produce OC! Bust out your camera and take photos of your CRTs displaying all sorts of games, featuring all sorts of tubes, using all sorts of signals. Getting good shots can be hard, but if you take enough, at least a few will turn out alright.>Try and give as much information as possible when asking for info on a specific set, or troubleshooting an issue to expedite and help you may receive. As always, Google is your friend and we are your friends with benefits. Do people read this? Older archived threads aren't a bad place to look either; Seriously, there's literally 6 years of backlog at this point.>Share appreciation for others choice of technology and personal philosophy of gaming. Always remember to show courtesy in your discussion and moderate yourselves first.Limited discussion of video processing and scaling devices is alright, but remember to keep the focus on CRTs and CRT accessories.CRT Pastebin (Never Ever) : http://pastebin.com/1Ri5TS3xGuide to CRT Hunting : http://pastebin.com/H9H9L2LQGuide to Video Monitors : http://pastebin.com/pQX4N6gZGeneral Purpose CRT Adjustment Guide : http://www.arcaderepairtips.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/guide_setup_adjust_arcade_monitors_v1.2.0.pdfS-Video Pasta : http://pastebin.com/rH2h6C7WBKM-10R Protocol Info : http://pastebin.com/aTUWf33J
>>12903226Finally got a flashcart and brought my childhood NES back to life, this is surreal bros, this thing has been in my family since before I was born.
>>12903230Did the console just work as is? Normally these things need some finagling after being in storage for so long.Mine had shit contact with the game so I had to do the ol' in-out in-out multiple times before it decided to work.Anyway, did you get the Famicom or the NES cartridge version?
>>12903237Yeah the console worked as is, which is amazing because it spent years in my mom’s garage after I moved out. The only finicky thing I noticed is the controller stopped reading inputs midplaythough twice in a row back to back, but reseating the input into the console seems to have made it go away.
>>12903226heeeeey thats my pic. that was before my remote came in from ebay and I could calibrate it with 240p test suite. it looks waaaay better now.when I found it several months ago I was not expecting to really care for using a crt, especially a 13" composite set. figured if it worked, was in good condition, I'd sell it. but I fucking love this thing. my memories of composite crts was of blurry ass graphics and white text with color bleed. this has none of that.
>>12903307pics or didn't happen
Do any of you guys pick up CRTs, fuck around with them a bit before selling them and moving on? What are you favorite sets?
From the previous thread- I fixed the PVM with vertical collapse I got for cheap. Several bad deflection caps and one of the pins on the CRT gun itself was broken off. No burn in on the tube. Sweet. Now need to make an RGBS adapter.>>12903359Yep. Probably 2 per week on average. Best picture quality from regular TVs I've come across are a 20" Sony KV-20FS120 and a 27" JVC with a curved tube and component input. The low hour/usage ones really stand out.
>>12903230I'm thinking about getting the $40 NES flash cart on AliExpress during the 11/11 sale. Which one did you get?
>>12903389Damn, that's nice. How much did you said it was? $200? Either way, it looks like it was worth it.
>>12903396Yeah, 200. The ewaste employee said he'd find more broken pvms for me. Make friends with local ewaste companies. They get a bunch of these things for free. Insane that people are simply dumping them.
Remember - Contrast low, Brightness high
>>12903389Excellent TV and game.>>12903395I got this one, people online said it was solid and saves to Flash memory so you dont have to worry about a battery.https://www.ebay.com/itm/227588755120It’s on Aliexrpress as well for $25, if you wanna go that route.
>>12903412>Insane that people are simply dumping them.It really isn't. They take up a great deal of space and are heavy. Just because they're not aware there's a niche group of people out there that desire them doesn't mean they should keep them indefinitely.
>>12903445Cool thanks. I want the one with a micro SD card. Silly that it costs double for that but oh well.>>12903456Consumer TVs I agree with that statement, but professional monitors were thousands of dollars new and not owned by joe schmoe. Anyone with a pvm in 2026 *should* know not to chuck it out at ewaste.
>>12903470Oh yeah the micro SD ones are the way to go, especially if you wanna do rom hacks and such
I stumbled upon this 2013 youtube video where this guy tried to sell a bunch of crts people would go nuts for now for $5 or less at a garage sale and sold zero of them
>>12903226Is there any way to play PS2 on a CRT without an actual PS2 or building a whole ass computer with emudriver?
>>12903693Well do you have a PS3?
>>12903696I actually do have one, I remember hacking it years ago and then never used it again. Can it actually play PS2? Back then you could only play the "PS Classics" you could get from the PS Store.
>>12903693Ps2 fats are cheap and the games are free, so I'd suck it up and get one. Path of least resistance.
>>12903685When you spend too much time in retro spaces you start believing CRTs are more valuable than they actually are.We have a big family garage sale every year and it's common for CRTs to get passed on. Not just shitty ones, ones with component ports and VGA monitors too.
>>12903703The original models were backwards compatible but the others had shitty emulation that only sometimes work well.
>>12903703the ps2 classics emulator is actually quite good and compatibility is not bad. modders discovered how to configure it and made configs for a ton of games.you can find them here https://ps3.aldostools.org/ps2config.htmland here's the compatibility list https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps3/PS2_Classics_Emulator_Compatibility_Listi have tried quite a few games on my ps3 which is a 3000 model, so i package them individually with the ps2 classics gui tool. it can be kind of a pain to do, though i don't mind too much because i make my own icon0 and pic0 to make them look official. the games i've tried run fine.on cfw is as easy as copying your ps2 isos and config files into the right folders inside your ps3.i do have a ps2, however. but use my ps3 to play ps2 from time to time when i put away my ps2 for space issues.
>>12903693Just get an actual PS2?and a HDD adaptershould probably cost you less than 100 for everything
>>12903693Buy a chink HDMI to RCA adapter and emulate on your main PC. Literally a no-brainer.99% of PS2 games are 480i, so emudriver is overkill for this console anyway.
>>12903827>chink HDMI to RCA adapter Those look like absolute horseshit, not even good enough to watch TV shows.
>>12903693Just get a PS2 and go the FreeMcBoot route and load up an HDD or SATA ssd with roms. It's not terribly expensive or hard to setup and it's the most authentic way to play. While pcsx2 is good and has great UI, it's still inferior to the real thing unless you just can't live without gay shit like states or fast forward.I did the whole emudriver thing for years and if you do ever go that route, I can verify that it does work well with pcsx2. Just have tv set as 640x480 and switch window and it works well. Also good for watching shit too, picrel
>>12903725Market is definitely important. I have some esoteric game things that are worth thousands, but if I just put them out on a table at a garage sale (without advertising online that I have games), I'd be "lucky" to find somebody willing to pay $20. Granted, thanks to the widespread use of smartphones and ebay these knowledge gaps are much smaller than they used to be. One of the saving graces for CRTs is that they're not always an easy flip for people who know the value but don't want them themselves. They do take up space, and if you want to maximize profit, might have to resort to selling online and shipping them, which is a whole other headache.
>>12903914You can use an FPGA or wait for modretro to release their downscaler which should be coming out pretty soon.
>>12905316>use an FPGAWhat do you mean, use it alongside a PC? How would that work? Or standalone?
>>12903914Nah, they good.
>>12905442Nah, they suck.
>>12905316>their downscalerI don't know if that's what it is anon
>>12905369You'll be using Groovy Mister, you connect your pc to the mister via ethernet and output to crt.
>>12903226fellas, i kind of want a CRT but my mom keeps saying my CRT is just going to break and turn into a heap of junk i have to pay to take to the dump. she always tells me what to do even though i am a 35-year-old man. it would probably just be one of those $50 portable black and white ones so i wouldn't be out too much money.
>>12905565I miss my mom
>>12905587i'm going to miss my mom too but she's very controlling>can't drive or ride my bike except on weekend mornings because "there's too much traffic">can't run on an AI agent on our home network because it will "delete all of our files">can't preorder the Retrogames A1200 because "it's a scam">can't apply for work online because those are scams too as well apparentlyshe's been this way ever since my grandma got her bank account hacked and my sister got hacked. the sad part is i can't prove her wrong at least half of the time.
>>12905596To be fair, if my 35 year old NEET manchild son still lived with me. I would hate his guts. Cut your mother some slack.
>>12905617my mom's like twice my age and in constant pain. she's long past caring about anyone's BS. i might have to actually learn how to just do what i gotta do without her input. always waiting for someone else's approval all the time has probably been the single biggest mistake in my life.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlLVmRYthX4anyway, back to discussing CRTs, i guess.
>>12903427Really? I've been doing the opposite.
>>12906361Nta but yeah you want the contrast lower so it doesn't drive the crt guns as hard. Both settings accelerate wear if cranked up high. I usually do like 65 contrast, 70 brightness and 0-25 sharpness, but it varies by tv
I have a 20L5 but want to force gen 6 games to 240p. What is the best way to do this?
>>12906505swiss lets you change the output resolution, so the gamecube is not a problemdunno about a solution that would work for all of them tho
>>12906505Is that mvc2?
>>12906554ya
>>12903427enjoy your gray blacks and whites
>>12906625enjoy your crushed blacks and whites
>Just put in the RGB mod bro>Become your own tv mechanic bro
>>12906817>puppygirlsuicidefake and exaggerated for attention
>>12906728nope. my set is properly calibrated. brightness (which controls black level) is lower than contrast (which controls white level/max brightness)
People on 4chan aren't in love with CRT technology, they love composhit cables, which they can also use on their modern displays. It's extremely regrettable that they're masquerading as fans of the former.
>>12906951I refuse to believe you people are real
i haven't noticed any latency playing retrogames on modern televisionsi doubt it's even real
>>12906995try non babby game
>>12907007you mean first person shooters that normalfag non-gamers play
Bros...I think I'm falling for the Mister FPGA meme...
I saw Aliexpress is selling Pandora Box systems that claim to be compatible with CRTs. Anyone tried them? I know they have a VGA port, so maybe I could use a comverter from VGA to component, like you can do with a raspberry pi.
11/11 sale is active on AliExpress. Get your flash carts, odes, cables, etc that you've been holding off on
>>12903685A wiser time.At that point the zoomer and reseller cycle had not begun and people knew these were a niche thing that is off inherently low value.
>>12907271The issue is that niche has grown, just like the hobby of collecting old games. You have multimillion view YouTube videos talking about how great CRTs are. You have TikTok girls showing off their Y2K CRTs. That's not to say the sky's the limit on the pricing of CRTs, and of course there are people who insanely overprice them when they catch wind of their being a hobbyist market, but yeah, there's a much greater chance of finding somebody willing to pay $100 for your old TV than there was 15 years ago when you'd probably have had to pay somebody to haul it away. Even within the past decade a lot of the higher pricing was relegated to PVMs and other high end sets, but now people will pay decently even for some consumer models. One good thing is that they don't have the insane investor infestation like videogames, so you're not going to see that level of price inflation. Most buyers are still going to be users or low-tier flippers.
>>12907045What? He's just saying Mario is too easy to be affected significantly by input lag. How does your brain go to FPS games?
>>12903725>When you spend too much time in retro spaces you start believing CRTs are more valuable than they actually are.I can say the same with retro gaming. You don't get how many households to this day are still throwing out retro games to the dumpster despite knowing they have value.CRTs in particular have the issue that is the same why they fell out of favor, which is they are heavy. So resellers rarely get them unless it is top-end Sony or other CRT they can find a buyer locally or they are 13 inches and under, as they cannot reasonably ship them without breaking or low cost. Most will not find a place outside their house to dump to put them since they are so heavy to move in the first place.
Got a SEMP 21" CRT and a 29" Samsung CRT, the Samsung one has a problem with both focus and some deformations that i couldnt fix with the service menu
>>12906817At this point CRTs are a rich nerds game.Either get a job that can afford something nice like a BVM or w/e or just emulate and use the gay scanlines.I waited until I was making 120K a year before deep diving this stuff and now I have a dozens crts but if I were broke I wouldn't risk my life to make the picture better with a mod that won't compared to a PVM anyway.
>>12907572>risk my lifekek. Why do people that don't know shit confidently repeat that CRTs are super deadly?
Is there an argument for HD CRTs? Based on everything I've seen they are basically only good for 480P gen 6 widescreen games is that right?Earlier gens lag and later gens like PS3/360 are better on oled is that right?
>>12907603Modern indie games look best on them but outside that year.
>>12907539This problem
>>12907539>>12907613cap replacement status?
>>12907613This is just normal flat screen crt shit. Not much you can do.
>>12907614I called a guy to replace those caps and take a look inside the yoke and everything
Idk why people don't just get D-Series tvs. Amazing picture quality, component inputs, curve screen.Amazing. Best TVs outside PVMs/BVMs
>>12907613Samsung Slimfit CRTs are notorious for geometry issues. I have two HD ones (guessing yours is SD though). The better of the two took a lot of service menu adjustments to look OK in picrel. TLDR, sell it and get something else
>>12903389That's cool, I really like the JVC bubble sets with component. I was hoping to hear about lesser known sets than Sony and JVC though since everyone knows those are good.
Is this worth $150 bros? I'm tempted and it's about an hour drive for me.
>>12907626I almost got one a month ago but someone beat me to it ;_;
>>12907901>eggcellent geometry>WEGAHmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>12907598because its truehttps://youtu.be/gqJom8XPf1k
>>12907743Philips curved tubes with component are top tier for consumer TVs and lesser known. PS and PT series specifically.
>>12906913>nope. my set is poorly calibrated
>>12907901>>12907938Nta but 24" and below Wegas can indeed have excellent geometry. It's the 27" and up that really suffer. This is my 20FS120 with minimal adjustment.150 is worth it if the condition is as stated.
>>12907613G2 too high maybe?
>>12908335I know yours is but what is mine
>>12908662poorly calibrated with crushed blacks.
>>12907116I output analogue from the 3.5mm jack on a pi4.
>>12909094see>>12908662
>>12909628Speaking of Pis I found this cool project that turns your Pi into a VCR-like media player. It was simple to install and works with local files, plex, jellyfin. Probably the simplest solution to composite playback on a CRT. I was impressed so I'll plug it.https://github.com/anthonycaccese/240-MP
>>12909628looks poorly calibrated to me.
>>12910329It's a 2006 cheapest shit magnavox with the worst picture breathing I've ever seen. It is incredibly bad.
>>12910625Not normal. Something is wrong with it electrically. Looks extremely overdriven. What happens if you turn the G2 potentiometer down?
>>12907572You can literally get crts for free and if you rgb mod a set with a good tube it is more or less identical to a pvm in quality.
>>12910858>jailbreaking your comb filter
I've owned a Magnavox Smart Series crt for like three weeks and suddenly there's thin horizontal lines at the top that are red, green and blue.
>>12910858only underage fags obsess over pvms
>>12911153Replace deflection caps before it explodes.
>>12909887Neat. Much better option than half broken ancient ps3/360 apps or that roku with composite from a decade ago.
>>12907116If it's using VGA then I bet it's 480p or higher. Make sure it does 240p/480 (15kHz) i if you want to plug it up to a normal SD CRT. They probably mean that it's compatible with PC CRT monitors and arcade displays (31kHz).
>>12911636>240p/480480i I meant>>12908324I think phillips is just lesser recognized with younger people new to the hobby. I always saw oldfags say Phillips was good
>>12908324Based I have that exact set and it looks amazing over component with MiSTer. its NTSC/PAL compatible which is rare for US models.
i dont have a crt but maybe you guys can help meso i have some random vizio smart tv, it's nothing crazy new , could easily be 10-15 years old; but i'm thinking i want to play my ps2 on it so long as it wont suck, in terms of look but moreso refresh rate or response time or whatever, one of the games i want to play is DDR so i cant have it trolling me with weird input delays messing up the timinganyone know if it's gonna work? also i think i want to buy some sort of component cable upgrade for said ps2, if anyone has a recommendation on which brand to get for that, not having that is also why i cant just test as of yet, im assuming with the standard red/white/yellow cables it's gonna be shit
>>12911851It's going to suck input-lag wise unless it has a dedicated game mode (and it will still have some lag)
>>12911856im sure it does have a game mode but ok yeah it looks like this isn't gonna be worth it... probably better off looking into a crt or a PC monitor, just never used a smaller screen for DDR but it should be fine
>>12911856>>12911851This. Get a cheap CRT with component cables. You can find old trini 13in for under $100. If you want to use modern shit get a scaler and an old but thats much more expensive.
Well /vr/?
>>12911851Go to public ewaste near you and steal a CRT or two. I picked up these three tiktok mommy specials today, and they had a whole pallet more.
>>12911923Right, because SONY Trinitron CRT TVs of the 90's were configured out of the factory for 9300K color temperature by default, which was the Japanese national standard at the time (dunno if it still is, honestly).I only knew this until recently, so I've been playing retro vidya wrong thinking 6500K was the industry standard.
>>12911961yeah we have a recycling center that has a trailer like this where people just plop things like that in there; are you saying just go there and take what i see or is there a way to test them there? im sure i can just bring them right back to the same spot if they suck but have we considered they might have roaches and bed bugs and fleas inside
>>12911979Don't test or even inspect em. Take and get out as fast as possible. Most of them still work. Return broken ones if necessary and take more. Save them from the crusher and sell what you don't keep.People with bed bugs/roaches don't drop things off at a proper recycling center lol. Probably throw them in a ditch or lake. I've never seen one with bugs other than dead spiders and I've taken close to 100 CRTs from ewaste.
>>12911974>so I've been playing retro vidya wrongcringe tryhard behavior. the tint of your tv is not a game changer you faggot.
>>12912023yes, it isyou've been playing your retro games wrong, anon. I'm so sorry.....
>>12911990Goodwill is my go to for free sets. Unfortunately i believe my local ewaste place is by appointment only with a gate.
>>12912027Jokes on you, I only play western games
>>12912289Good thing trinitrons were never sold in the US of A
>>12912306Good old patriotic American devs made their games for RCA tubes
>>12907901Definitely worth, picked one up for $100 two years ago and after a couple of changes in the service menu I haven't done much other than adjust contrast and brightness depending on if watching a show or playing a console on it. Haggle the price if you want but I'd do 150$ for a second one if it was close to me
>>12912027aww fuck..............
Do you have a comfy bedside CRT?
>>12913252>>>/crt/gaming
>>12913252a set that small is horrible for ps2 era 3D.You can't see shit but shimmering outlines. Stick to snes for that set.
>>12912368I play all American made games on American made TVs and all Japanese games on Japanese TVs. I don't play European games.
>NOOOOOOOOO ANYTHING BELOW 27" IS UNPLAYABLE!When did this attitude start? I spent all my childhood with small sets and didn't get PTSD
>>12913379there is a big difference between 3 inches and 10 inches. Ask your mom.
>>12913418Not my problem you have sex with CRTs
>>12913252I want one but pvms are expensive. I don't know if I can go back to composite for a small consumer set.
>>12911596oh shit
>>12913379around 2009 when 32" tvs became the norm
>>12913350Untrue. Ps2 looks great
>>12911153ok apparently I toggled something in the service menu and there's a AKB mode that looks like the tv is dying lmao.
>>12913513Problem with those tiny sets is that you might not be comfortable being a foot away from the screen. We have a 13" PVM and it's great but you have to be about 2-3ft away from it to see everything. My main TV is a 27" consumer set and I like having the breathing space of a few extra feet. No hate for small sets, I'm just saying be prepared to be pretty close to it.
>>12914220you clearly don't lose any fidelity gaming on a small set though
>>12914220>>12914228personally, I love my 13 incheri find my desktop setup the comfiest
>>1291422013 inch is the bare minimum for playable CRT size
>>12914228Now take the picture from further away (the distance you would actually sit)
>>12913489At that size I don't think it matters as much. I RGB modded a 9 inch CRT and I can barely tell the difference between RGB and composite.
>>12914584The picture was taken from about 5-6ft away with a 100mm lens
>>12914591Now apply the middle aged eyesight filter
>>12914270I also love my 13 incher, but it makes me uncomfortable sitting at desks. thats why I play my 24" Hitachi on a tv cart
>>12913350>shimmeringFix your TV
>>12903693>emudriverdeprecated
>>12914597
>>12914228>you clearly don't lose any fidelity gaming on a small set thoughDepends on the TVL of the set.
>>12915672Just like the devs intended
>>12915660This. https://pastebin.com/5iM6wY92
Stupid question. Would this work? I'm guessing tv would not register sync signal from other output?
>>12915827*input
>>12915827It's just composite over SCART, yeah it will work fine.
>>12915832In theory yes but would it register from inactive input (RGB no SCART)? The problem is I'm building my cables from the ground up and I could not for the love of god get those Multi AV male connectors with Sync in (picrelated).
>>12915837If you apply the right power for it to switch to composite AV from that input to the SCART connector, it should.SCART uses different power levels for input select and input type, not signal.
>>12915841Well yeah but this circuit is in the scart header right? Shit's in the back. I will be using SCART RGB input 100% of the time. I can always hack the consoles and add rca jack at the back but I would rather not.
>>12913379don't worry about what people online are saying. Most people just put out shit saying whatever they have is the best and its usually just to cope with their decision.If you like what you got, don't worry about it.There is no "right" way to enjoy yourself, which is the point of video games and tvs.
>>12913513Yeah it looks great, on a close up shot in a cutscene, as it would on any screen size. Take pictures of yourself actually playing a game. Walk around the fields looking for npcs to talk to in FFX-2.Not saying its impossible but it's definitely not great.
>>12915870>Take pictures of yourself actually playing a gamedamn didnt have to do dude like that
>>12915837Just get an npc-103g. It's literally the factory solution for this "problem".
>>12915928I would but those things are more expensive than guncons themself believe it or not
>>12915932You can get them on ebay uk for 12.99
>>12915928Does this work for PS2
>>12915940Yes
i need a crt to hook my raspberry pi 2 up to.
>>12907364super mario world is harder than a lot of "adult" gamessuper mario world is harder than gta 5
>>12916004and my penis is a lot bigger than yours, but combined we still cant beat the average length in hong kong
>>12915870Nah, I'm good. nothing to prove. I enjoy the 8" PVMs. Even if I did you'd move the goalposts again.
>>12916004But is it harder than adult games from that era?
>>12915990you need a duster or vacuum more
>>12916261not that anon, but dusting is a pointless act of futility.
>>12916304Much like wiping.
>>12916304dont be a slob. it could be deadly
>>12916304You couldn't be more wrong. Dusting and vacuuming your house regularly will improve indoor air quality greatly, prevent your consoles from taking in dust and overheating, and you'll benefit from mental gains by having a clean house. I purchased one of those high powered stick vacuums and it's great, I can vacuum a 2,200sq ft house in 40 minutes
>>12916348>>12916429all youre doing is sending the dust up into the air for several days as it slowly re-accumalates back down onto every surface, all the while you are breathing it in the whole time.
>>12916517???You use a swiffer duster to trap the filth and shake it into a garbage can.
>>12916517You dust the furniture, wait 10 minutes for shit to settle and then vacuum. Didn't you mom ever teach you how to clean?
I've been trying to find a picture of an old TV I had as a kid, but I can't even remember the model of it. Figured here was a good place to see if anybody knows wtf I'm talking about. It was on the small side, small enough to fit on an end table, didn't have AV outlets, had picture adjustment knobs beneath the screen, and 13 separate channel buttons on the right side behind a door. Might have been made of woodgrain, too.
>>12916663Sony KV-1515https://crtdatabase.com/crts/sony/sony-kv-1515
I had a KV-1923 as a kid. Wish I still had it
>>12916667That definitely wasn't it, it was brown and black.
>>12916551>>12916642doesn't work. pull out a flashlight and gaze upon the futility of your actions
>>12906995>>i doubt it's even real>Misses crouch jump>Misses crouch jump>Misses crouch jump>Runs into a wall and stops for a couple of seconds before it registers his next jump input
>>12916663Going off those details it sounds like Zenith, RCA, or Magnavox
which one is more accuratesomeone with re and crt please post a pic
>>12917893neither
This was my CRT growing up, although mine was green. Died in 2015 or so, rip in pepperonis. Pouring one for the good memories.
>>12918054Close up from a redditor
>>12906995>>12916764>>12907007i like how both replies didn't get it
>>12916901Sadly, I went through every single entry for these three on crtdatabase and came up short.
if latency is a problem you always use save states to make up for it
>>12918379you can always use*
beating a game with latency should be an accomplishment in and of itself
great gamer would play with latency on purpose to make the game harder
>>12918348Is the joke that you're retarded? Because that's been established.
>>12918470>seething
>>12918476>S-SEETHING...
>>12918490sounds like cope from someone who fell for the pretend retard's tricks to me
>>12916726Do you also not clean your keyboard by this futile mindset? Leave the skidmarks in your undies?
>>12918470Yes this doesnt even qualify as rage bait. I guess its what happens to a person who has spent 20 years on a board about video games with no actual hobbies. They take up lying as a hobby giving up their soul in the process? All because they saw someone else do it? Herd mentality for no reason?Anyways. This is why i can play modern 30fps games just fine. Everything feels terrible.
Kinda related. I switched to Bazzite (Linux) so CRT Emudriver stopped being an option. I tried asking ChatGPT if I could do something, and I've spent 3 hours just copypasting commands from it.In theory, could someone use Claude to make 15Khz available on different distros? Or make CRT usage in general more readily available?
>>12918857yes
>>12903693get a PC monitorrun everything in 480padd some soap and scanlines with retroarch
bargain alert
>>12918840no. my keyboard never needs cleaning. I wear white cotton gloves when using keyboard and mouse and when holding game controllers. I never eat while doing any activity. my undies have never had skidmarks. wiping ones ass clean is an achievable goal, not a futile endeavor such as removing dust.
>>12919957I swear the word Sony makes people go absolutely retarded when it comes to tvs
>>12918379bro needs an extension cord
>>12913252yeah it's a little cheapo 14" with a vcr built in, everything still works great too. i use it to game, watch old shows or movies via my ps3, and watch vhs tapes. it's super comfy.
>>12907901That's not a bad price for a Trinitron these days but I'd still try to jew him down to $100.
>>12913252Yes, this is my 9" RCA. It was the first CRT I bought when I first got back into retro gaming.
>>12919957Best I can do is $5
>>12911153It's underscanning
Are there any downsides to those 20 inch Sylvania crts with a built in dvd player? They look like basically the ideal form factor for a multimedia machine.
>>12920949if the dvd player stops working it'll be kind of lame to see its disc tray there mocking you
You guys have any experience with Bang & Olufsen? I have the opportunity to pick up an Avant.
>>12921328dude is that the michael scott tv?
my tv automatically degauses when I turn it on. I remember every pc monitor I ever owned doing the same or having an option to do it in the menu. but then in my youtube feed I see a video of a guy having to use a wand to manually degausse his tv. and come to think of it, I dont remember if any of my childhood crts having that option or auto degaussing. like how common is it for a crt to have no built in method to degausse? was there a particular year when built in degaussers become common?
>>12922052Most every color CRT that you'll ever use has built-in degaussing, which works for small imppperfections. The big degaussing coils that you see the people on Youtube use are usually reserved for factories and arcade opeprators, since those are meant to be very powerful demagnetizers for "full" degaussing. Sometimes a CRT will age and misalign, or it will pick up stray magnetism over decades, or some idiot will put a magnet right next to the face. If you have to ask yourself if you need one, you probably don't. Just make sure to not set up any unshielded speakers, or put a giant neodynium magnet next to it.
>>12922109About the only color CRTs without degaussers are really old late 50s - early 60s models.
>>12922109If you have multiple CRTs, then it might be worth getting a manual degausser in case you get a magnetization-induced purity issue that won't go away. But yeah, if you just have one or two consumer sets that look fine after built-in degauss, then there's no real reason to use one.
>>12920949They are cheap, lower quality crts built by Funai. Gets the job done if you don't have anything else but I wouldn't go looking for one specifically
Is there any benefit at all to getting a D24 if I have a 20L5 and A20 already? I like the widescreen aspect but it may be easier waiting for an HD CRT to hit fb marketplace.
>>12920949The DVD player components were on the lower end as these sets were by Funai so have the tendency to have parts break or malfunction. Which they work perfectly fine as regular tvs even if that is broken, some can be s-video modded if it is. But if you have one you want the dvd part working and fixing them is an absolute pain in the ass since now you have a giant tv in the way to disassemble I have a working Funai-assembled one (albeit 13 inch) and admittedly they are lovely and look cool, I see why they are among the most in demand. But I found it locally and wouldn’t pay the large resale bucks for one knowing they will eventually break and it will take a lot of hours and bullshit to get it to work again, when you can just plug in a separate dvd player. But if you are cool with that that might be your one
Is a 20M2MDU worth $600? Have a local seller but seems expensive.
>>12922513No CRT is worth $600 yet
In 2016ish I sold dozens of CRTs for ridiculous prices by using a local surplus warehouse as my "stock". They had pallets of the things waiting to be junked, and wanted between 5 and 20 bucks depending on how large they were. I bought some for myself, and then made a Craigslist post with photos of "my" CRTs running, detailing several models available.I looked at reddit fags charging $200-500 a piece, and listed "mine" at $100-300 depending on what they were. Best models were 20L2s with their expansion cards, I sold them at $300, and priced down accordingly. Some I sold for as little as $80. I assumed zero risk on this as I would simply go over to the surplus, pick up the requested model, and then set it up for the buyer to check out. I had men driving from across the country to get these. I made nearly $5000 before my ruse was up and one day I went to pick something up and saw a formerly-shilled-on-/vr/ eceleb pushing a u-boat to the dock, loaded with CRTs. Then, the warehouse themselves made Craigslist posts, and in a few months it was shuttered (sad because I had wanted some of the office furniture and other things they had).I guess someone realized that my story of "I bought surplus pallets online" didn't add up with my seemingly endless supply or I hadn't blurred the backgrounds well enough. Thing is, this warehouse wasn't even listed on Maps, I only noticed it by passing it in town one day. But being in the middle of nowhere had to be suspicious to people after a while.Anyway, I bought a car with that money.
>>12922513I sold these niggas for $225-250, 10 years ago. >>12922565But they're nice sets, I actually got off my L series for extra dosh and stuck with the M, it has more total inputs anyway even with the BKM card.
>>12922573>selling an appreciating asset for a depreciating oneNGMI
>>12922565I call slight bullshit just because CRTs were worthless them, even the highest grade ones 2016 you could not even get rid of these things, it only spiked with the rest of retro gaming post-covid
>>12922582Needed the car bruv, simple as. Unless you mean the L for the M, in which case, meh, I told the guy I wouldn't sell it as it was my last one for me, but he offered more than double what I was asking and I decided the difference between the two wasn't great enough to matter.>>12922593You were not there. Regular CRTs were definitely an afterthought, this was a stock of PVMs and other monitors that was held in a medical surplus warehouse. For a 200k square foot warehouse with no foot traffic, they were junk and basically free. For people on Reddit and /vr/ they had value but only Reddit morons would pay such prices, here people were saying that you could find your own with effort or to just go consumer. E-celebs had juuuust started shilling these things after the Framemeister went out of stock, it was basically "you don't need that thing! And it sucks anyway! Check out this old junk that I have financial interest in!".I posted my Craigslist ad and also an ad on reddit, got responses because although expensive, I was undercutting everyone else thanks to having no overhead. For people in those days, it was worth driving a few counties over if they had no other way to find a PVM.
>>12922593that's total bullshit. I got back into CRTs in 2016 and people were already bitching about PVMs BVMs costing thousands.
>>12922621Doubt I bought a 20L5 last year practically new for 2K it would be much more now if the prices jumped like you thought.
>>12922550Tons of CRT models are already worth thousands.
>>12922626No one cares if you doubt since you clearly weren't there and don't know what you're talking about. CRTs started skyrocketing in price in the mid 2010s.
Here is proof of my story. The first Reddit listing I made had much lower prices than my Craigslist one since I figured the buyers were more savvy (also I wanted to do a bit of good in getting these to people who would actually use them). And this was before the ladies at the warehouse showed me the pallet room.>>12922626 #>last yearSo what the fuck are you talking about? In 2016 you could buy a 20L5 for under $400. You could buy D series BVMs for $500...
>>12921540the what
>>12922513It's a fair price. I paid 600 for my non-medical version recently. MDU's worth a bit more with the dual RGB/component inputs.This is a bad place to ask though. Discussions like these are always full of cheapskates that think x object is worth 1/4th of market value.
>>12922670Prices were not that cheap in 2016. This was just an exception where some guy was selling them cheap and fucking himself over. Where did the myth that prices jumped during covid come from?
>>12922979thats what she said
>>12922513pvmemes suck
>>12922513its the only way to get the authentic 80s exsperiment dude
so I wanna pick up a 13 inch trinitron but the only issues with it are the alignment is off and has burn in. is it gonna be a hassle to replace the tube or should I just look for something else?
>>12923265Probably because old game prices spiked during COVID, either due to lockdowns, stimulus checks, or coincidence. No idea if CRT prices did the same, but I would assume that would at least be how the idea started, true or otherwise.>>12923265>>12922670I remember making an offer on a local Craigslist ad for an NEC XP29 back in like 2013 or 2014. I forget if if I ultimately paid $300 or $350 for it. Back then that felt like a tough price to pay for a CRT; not too long before that I bought an Ikegami TM20-17R online for I think $150 before shipping. That was back when pro monitors were what people were paying for, before the hype spilled over to more consumer sets (either hype or simply getting priced out of pro-grade sets)
>>12923595You've never seen one in person.
>>12923595might as well get an oled honestly.
I have an alright Hitachi mini TV with RGB scart and composite connectors. What would be an acceptable way to connect a HDMI or VGA output to it? Don't necessarily need the best quality out of it but with a bunch of N64 games being decompiled and running great on my old toaster I really want to hook it up to my old telly.
>>12924783This, get the programmed obsolescence tech, goy
>>12924872>doesn't just turn off wifi on his smart tv and use a console or hooked up pc to watch stuff on it without having to deal with lagging uingmi
>>12924904How's that going to prevent the usual OLED burn-in?
>>12924695Was going to say the same thing. You can argue PVMs (the desirable ones) are overpriced but they look awesome.Here are today's dump finds. A Sylvania piece of shit and a Sony piece of shit.
>>12907107i got a superstation because it has all of the analog outputs without needing adapter boards and cases and other shit, its pretty comfy
>>12911628i now use a hdmi to component adapter but the apple tv 1 is also a decent media player with analog outputs, it supports composite and component, a bit outdated now though so cant handle video files above 1080p 8bit colour kektheres a fairly recent kodi build for it that works well https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=363320
>>12916517i used one of these with my hoover instead of dusting it works really well
>>12920012its funny too because the jvc/panasonic broadcast monitors are better than pvms and cheaper (or were atleast when i got mine) except for that pvm that can do 1080i
>>12922513id pay it personally i get lots of use out of my crt would happily pay up to 1k for one i liked if it died
>>12923265everything went up in covid because people were bored and started scalping things
>>12925291I tried the Apple TV 1 route and it was straight garbage. That thing is incredibly slow. A raspberry pi 3b or 4 with 240-MP front end is infinitely better. Hope this saves someone time.
>>12925369yeah it will definitely be worse than a pi but isnt terrible with kodi + the broadcom hd card. its fun hw to mess with though
Is using a PC CRT monitor with composite shaders to gaslight myself a valid route?
Can anyone recommend a good esr meter and can I use it to test all components on the board?
>sent a VGA monitor and component CRT to "recycling" because I already took 3 CRTs home that I don't have room forI need to quit this job so I can remain ignorant to how much retro shit gets absolutely trashed.Or rent a storage unit so I can adopt CRTs like a crazy cat lady.
>>12925309I am thinking ot getting a $500+ air scrubber and just dusting by blowing every surface with my DustVac, send it all up into the air and let the scrubber suck it up
>>12925452Fnirsi LCR ST2 smart tweezers is what I use. I find the tweezer format to be more useful than the other types.Settings for testing caps in circuit: C mode, freq. 100khz, 0.1v, scroll to make the bottom left box show R (ESR). Makes it a breeze to find blown caps without desoldering them.
>>12924908>usual oled burn inyou've never used one
>>12925471Find a thrift store that will put them out and take them there (not goodwill or salvation army) or put out a free listing on facebook or something and have someone take themYou easily can save all these that come in
>>12925758thanks anon, this is exactly what I need
Thoughts on fixed function VGA monitors? I unfortunately had to get rid of some crts in a move, so the only VGA things that I kept are this (Mitsubishi XC-1429C) and an IBM c220p. I kept this one to fit my early 386sx16 build. Was lucky since some dude was about to throw this away at a thrift store. And don't worry, the tube contrast is set very low for decent camera exposure.
>>12925583id imagine a lot of the dust will settle before it gets sucked into one of those, you should try out a hoover brush attachment theyre cheap. genuinely one of the best inventions of all times, especially if you have figures and stuff it makes them super easy to clean compared to wiping them with a cloth
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>>12918857see >>12915717
>>12907572sounds like a shitty attempt to keep pvm prices high and regular TV prices low. thanks for the chuckle
