>Xenosaga was planned as a six-game magnum opus until bad sales forced them to correct their plansYou have now realized that if they kept naming games after Nietzsche's works, one of them would be called Gay Science.
>>12908880Always cracks me up when weebs call some anime waifu game a "magnum opus". Yeah dude a big tiddy blue hair anime girl barely wearing any clothes, we know exactly why you bought this and it's not for the story.
>>12908961Always cracks me up when some retard who hasn't played a game offers their strong opinions on it. Xenosaga might have actually sold were it an anime waifu game and not a deathly dull space opera.
>>12908979This lol, even now I'm not ever touching because of it's reputation as a nothing but text game
>>12908880They were far too ambitious, much like how they were with Xenogears.
>>12908880Probably not. There's a cult in Japan called Happy Science so they probably would have steered clear in order to avoid getting mixed up with crazies who could be potentially violent. Especially since the release of those games wasn't all that long after another Japanese cult tried to kill a bunch of people.
>>12908992What's with the Japanese and cults?
>>12909010Nothing, they're pretty rare here overall.
>Reading EGM early-00s>Review for tits & ass / psychological space opera anime JRPG, I'm interested>All reviewers go on and on about how most of the game is cutscenes and you only really "play" the game a quarter of the time. They crack jokes about it over many issues.EGM saved me this time.
>>12909010After WW2 the occupation forces rewrote the constitution to separate the state and religion (they were unified before), which ironically has led to a lot of cults, since there's no official state mandated religion anymore, anyone can do anything.
While Xenogears is excellent, it's obvious that the larger setting should remain vague context fluff instead of actual games, which are just fart sniffing garbage. Oooh this robot maid is actually a reincarnation of Nietzsche, GÖTZENDÄMMERUNG MODE ACTIVATE HIYAA TAKE THAT MAN-MADE JESUS
>>12909035>>12908984>>12908880Xenogears and Xenosaga are the videogame equivalent of Dan Brown books. Also Nietzsche is used in the most shallow way possible, same for the other sources.
I can’t believe that dog water, unfinished game Xenogears spawned a series.I’m so happy this flopped just based off of where it got its roots. Boring, melodramatic, rambling bullshit. Just play an actual GOOD jrpg like Star Ocean the Second Story.
>>12909025Westerners have been mindraped into believing a Jewish carpenter is god incarnate and rules over a magic jew kingdom in the sky, so they’re not much better off.
>>12909039Best way to use him IMO. He is popular among cultists for his more dumber takes and if you try to delve into that you will attract a crowd worse then hipsters or hardcore weaboos.
>>12909045well that's ironic, given that in Zarathustra he explicitly writes “Perhaps he deceived you. […] You say you believe in Zarathustra? But what does Zarathustra matter!”
>>12909039>Xenogears and Xenosaga are the videogame equivalent of Dan Brown books.gotta agree with this one.
>>12908961I only know about this franchise because one day I saw a hentai poster of the main girl showing her boobs at a newsstand.
>>12908961>Combat only occurs in every 3rd section of the linear narrative>Robot suit mode that doesn't help and actually makes combat harder by restricting your options>Gives you 6 party members but doesn't give you any reason to use half of themIt's not for the gameplay either
>>12908880They did the same thing with Xenogears, which was supposedly the 5th in a series of 6 as well.
>>129090422008 era atheism so hot right now
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>>12908961This game filtered me hard, Xenogears was kino but wtf is this gay shit where you just file through a bunch of identikit room on a boring spaceship for like 3 fucking games?
>>12909136Get on my level. I bricked my console while trying to mod it to play PS2 isos, because I wanted to play Xenosaga. Now I cope by reading Nietzsche while listening to the soundtrack.
>>12909019What did they say about other jrpgs?
>>129091104chan isn’t a safe space for deus vult larpers Paco
>>12909336I don't even consider myself Christian, but I definitely rather live in a Christian society than an atheist one, having experienced both.
>>12908880I'm tired of those Xenoshit worshipers because all they liked are animu tropes and their waifus. The games were bad and had no future, that's why they were cancelled - for the good of Humanity.
>>12909346There was no waifu shit going on in the 90's (in the west at least). Didn't really start until the mid 2000's, imo.
>>12909039>Dan Brownis that the faggot who almost copies wikipedia articles into his "stories"
>>12909362So you were not alive in the 90s, but have strong opinions of what it was like? The explosion of tifa "picture shrines" in the late 90s says otherwise. The webrings focused heavily on her, only matched by a handful of fighting game girls. The fighting game xharacters had largerore detailed sprites and eere designed to be fappable, but their story was paper thin. Chun li had more porn but waifus came from RPGs. Tifa had the most geocity and angelfire sites and other fan pages dedicated entirely to her. The only real rival was laura croft, but 90s western fanart tended to be dogshit (retards with pencil crayon drawings who couldnt understand anatomy or how hands work. What went on to become the early deviantart style). Tifa at least had japans booming doujin and CG subculture churning out higher quality tifa art. But more importantly her game had a reasonable amount of story and character development that fans latched onto. She was more than just a quick fap like luara.
>>12909343Good, then go move to Africa which has the highest rates of Christianity in the world.
>>12909438Also you cant have waifu community without waifu wars. Never ending flame wars between fans of girl A vs girl B, of chun li vs cammy, or felicia vs morrigan.
>>12909331Well FFX came out before, I consider it way too cutscene-focused and they gave that a 9.3 / 10. I have to assume that if those same people raged a year later about how little interaction Xenosaga had that they were probably right.
>>12909438>>12909449I was born in 83. When were you born?
>>12909426Yes, da vinci code has been criticized for passing off false things as “facts.” And the funny thing is not only that Xenosaga does the same thing to a lesser degree, since its database uses an impartial/encyclopedic tone even for false or misleading stuff (like justifying faster than light transfer with the EPR paradox, i.e. pseudo-scientific mumbo jumbo), but also that Brown’s mumbo jumbo about some kind of link between Jesus and Mary Magdalene comes from THE SAME HOAX Xenosaga used (the Rennes le Château/Mary Magdalene legend). Both are pretentious and rely on the same mumbo jumbo. The difference being that Xenosaga is, deservedly, a failed project.
>>129095431975. My old man powers are stronger.I had internet in university since 1994 so I saw it all. I guess its a different experience for you being a 13 year old kid on a shared family PC in the late 90s, and someone in early 20s in your own apartment with a solid gaming rig, all the consoles, degenerate friends, lanparties, and years of usenet and IRC behind you. So maybe you were not necessarily sheltered but just too young to know what the internet was really like back then, or lacked the resources to see the actual online communities in the 90s. But even the webrings I mentioned above were normalfags, IRC was where it was really at when it came to waifu war shouting matches and fserve image dumps (or ftp links).
>>12909576I had internet in 91 and was playing Doom on a modem in 93 with my friends. I've been gaming since I was 5 with an Atari ST (the farthest I can remember).I would argue aeris/tifa shrines are not even close to the same thing. FF7 was controversial because it was the first time a mainstream game actively killed a fan favorite character early enough in the story to have a huge emotional impact. There was always going to be fighting over who the better girl was, but it was never waifu shit. That term wasn't even coined until 2002, and did hit 4chan until 2006/7.There was no waifu shit, there was some nerds who liked to discuss their favorite games and argue over who the girl for Cloud was.
>>12909581Gooning and waifus existed for a century before video games existed (late victorian affordable printing had lewds of everything), there were just not labels for it.
>>12909585this is 97 were talking about, anon. the internet was nowhere near popular enough to be spreading definitive arguments over anything console gamers gooned about. Japan was certainly doing it, you can guarantee those posts aren't asians, hence my claim that no waifufaggotry existed in the west yet, at least not on a scale that was noticeable or memorable.
>>12909587>you can guaranteemeant can't
>>12909449>There have been 0000 visitors since 1997kwab
>>12909585Also i was gooning to Scully from X-files, and Shirley Manson from Garbage at this time. Even as a massive gamer (literally the 1%), gooning over anime wasn't really my thing. I jerked off to plenty of hentai, but never had a favorite girl. No one I knew was doing it. It's a culture thing, imo.
>>12909587I was on raw japanese websites farming CGs, so I saw both sides and then sharing it on IRC fserves. sakura.ne.jp sites were a goldmine of good fanart.The overall internet was smaller for sure, but the people using it were more dedicated nerd interests as a percentage of total users compared the modern normalfag internet that emerged in the early 2000s, or worse the post 2008 smartphone era where brown people finally got online. The 90s itnernet was definitely a smaller more elite group of users compared to those later. But even the late 90s people were looked down on by the early 90s BBC users. Overall Japanese internet was not that big either back then, but CG art was taking off and there were certainly waifu wars on both sides of the pond. Japanese artists in the 90s were notorious for making rape doujins to punish rival girls of their waifu (the trend still goes strong today but back then there was a lot of seething and spite in the best girl wars). Others people I knew on IRC were expats in japan and involved in buying and scanning shit from comiket, that is how I started reading doujins in early 1996 (very first I ever read was a darkstalkers book where morrigan rapes felicia in her sleep, and then felicia tailfucks her). years later I actually found a copy of that book in japan and own my own physical copy of it as a momento.
>>12909443how does niggers factor in, dumbass?
>>12909638The wealthiest man in the world is a current citizen of South Africa.
>>12909634so what you're saying is you're the faggot responsible for all of this waifu shit, spamming that jap fanart to a niche group of western nerds, corrupting them with pictures of anime titties?
>hmmm i like xenogears>hear saga was ass>try out blade>wtf is this shitty mmo combatis saga really that bad? is it at least turnbased like gears?
>>12909651Xenosaga is pretty much exactly like Xenogears, with a much shittier story and long periods (up to 30 minutes) of watching cringy CGI anime.
>>12909632>Shirley Manson from GarbageNice! She was top tier among 90s rock girls. The pop whores never came close to her. The only one who came close was Melissa Gaboriau Auf der Maur (bass player for hole)>>12909647>so what you're saying is you're the faggot responsible for all of this waifu shitIt was a group effort. You had to be there...
>>12909658i was too busy playing video games and being an actual gamer, so i guess you win this argument.
>>12909654I haven't played Saga yet, but from what i have seen, the cast looks a lot more fappable than Gears cast. Especially chaos.
I only vaguely remember KOS-MOS porn, her status as a waifu seemed to fall off over the years
>>12909661>i was too busy playing video games and being an actual gamerLike you are doing right now? Discussing them not playing them?There is time for both. The fact that /v/ and /vr/ exist at all proves this. I'm currently on a lunch break after spending the morning tearing down the shotguns for one of my arcade cabinets, and installing new harnesses because there is a loose connection somewhere. Its a comfy way to spend a day off. I am reminiscing about the 90s with you as I enjoy my soup.
>>12909438>that site Imagine having your shame archived 27 years later, so you can look at your teenaged wanker cringe.
>>12909683I'm talking about the 90's. I don't play games like I used to. And we're not really discussing anything. I conceded the argument and you're arguing about something else. Not interested.
>>12909443Mate, negroes don't understand Christianity, they can't even read well enough to understand Bible. You could replace all the Churches with Mosques during a single night and they wouldn't notice the difference.
>>12909654i mean gears had long cutscenes sometimes, but 30min jesus wtf now idk if i wanna watch the cutscenesi did get the undub version + uncensored for em (uncensored being saga 3 tho seems like its one scene?)
>>12909771Longest cutscene is actually 25 mins, i had just guessed, but the opening is 40 minutes.
>>12909039>>12909048Some of us aren't literate and just randomly push buttons to get through games. Who's Dan Brown and how are the two related?
>>12909806anon>>12909426>>12909548
>>12909806Wasn't he in Gorillaz?
