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>The N64's problem... was that it was just... TOO good....
Genuinely what the fuck is wrong with tendies?
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when are homosexual OPs gonna stop getting triggered by their video recommendations
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Turns out building masterpieces for a highly sophisticated system takes more time and effort than shitting out forgettable dogshit onto a cd
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>>12911797
Saturn didnt have that problem
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5pYsiB21QU
N64 was leaps and bounds ahead of the competition, developers literally weren't able to keep up. It genuinely can run Halo and Half-Life.
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>>12911823
Having tried these, they run at seconds per frame so no.
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>>12911823
>can genuinely run Halo and Half-Life
>just barely runs heavily neutered demakes of them
Ebic
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>>12911830
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FJUhH-5oKw
The Half-Life one is making amazing progress.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEaa9CeCsbQ
Quite the night and day difference when compared to the Playstation port, really shows the gap in performance.
>>12911831
These are direct source ports, retard.
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>>12911834
>direct source ports
>vibe-coded, heavily downgraded, AI slop demakes
Ebic
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>>12911834
PS1 version was out first and the video was posted 3 months ago. hl64 just got the hazard course. Neither version is exemplary.
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>>12911836
Source ports are not demakes, retard.
>>12911837
>Neither version is exemplary.
The N64 port is incredible. Nobody would've even thought it was possible just last year.
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>>12911839
>Nobody would've even thought it was possible just last year.
It would come up pretty often as being possible.
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>>12911840
>It would come up pretty often as being possible.
For those who knew the theoretical power of N64, who were routinely shouted down as wrong by foolish N64 haters.
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>>12911806
RE2, Crash, and MegaMan X4 mog anything on N64
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stop liking the n64 goddamit
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>>12911846
HL1's environments aren't particularly complex and the HL64 port is making expected use of distance fog to help the console keep up. There's not much to write home about here. It even still has the load screens.
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>>12911857
>There's not much to write home about here.
Downplaying 1996 console hardware being capable of playing a high end 1998 PC game, hilarious. At least you won't try and pretend the Playstation is more powerful anymore, that ship has truly sailed.
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I have extreme N64 fatigue and as such will be using filters from now on so I don't ever see a single thread on it anymore, negative or positive. It's been 30 years already and your obsession never stops.

Unwatching, sageing, hiding, don't @ me.
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>>12911847
>RE2
on N64, and a single cartridge too
>Crash
no better than an MSX penguin game
>MegaMan X4
may as well be a snezzz game
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>>12911806
lol is that mario smoking weed?
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>>12911861
Nintendo 64
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>>12911859
>Downplaying 1996 console hardware
It's all first generation home 3D. You're playing it up a little too much. There were 64 and PS1 ports of PC games until the end of the generation. No one gives a shit about Expendable, a PC graphics showcase at its time, running on PS1.

Half-Life is less impressive. The novelty of it being half-life is the interesting thing, and the closer it resembles the half life experience on PC the more interesting it becomes. Having played HL64 and Halo64, neither are there yet with Halo likely being at best a cute tech demo.
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>>12911859
Because it doesn't play it like a 98 high-end PC game you moron, it has mcuh lower res assets, simplified AI and level design, pisspoor draw distance, poor performance, neutered effects, compressed audio, and excessive load screens. It's impressive purely as a novelty.
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>>12911871
>it has mcuh lower res assets, simplified AI and level design, pisspoor draw distance, poor performance, neutered effects, compressed audio, and excessive load screens.
All of these would be worse if you played on a PC that met what the developers considered minimum requirements.
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>>12911797
Qrd on the videos actual assertion before I bother engaging.
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>>12911875
No, it would not be.
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>>12911876
idk we're talking about homebrew now. Hey did you see the metroid prime xbox port?
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>>12911878
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdWvfLvPIIw
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>>12911881
Still higher res, higher quality assets, better sound quality, more effects, longer draw distance, and less loading screens than 64 port. Only thing is that performance is worse because it's a potato.
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>>12911885
>n64 hater defending single digit FPS
How the tables have turned.
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>>12911797
I think it’s more that developers back then had neither the time nor resources to design and optimize for the N64’s hardware the way that hobbyists and homebrewers do 30 years later. It’s easier to pull of technically impressive stuff without the tight logistical constraints of commercial game development.

Given that, Rare and Factor 5 both did a great fucking job anyway.
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>>12912387
By comparison, the relatively short lead times of inexpensive CD manufacturing meant that PS1 developers could afford more development time than they would’ve been able to on the N64.
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>>12911823
>>12911797
Get and Ad
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>>12911797
This culty shit is unique to a millennial n64 demographic. NES, SNES, and GC do not have this problem. The need to go above and beyond to justify the N64 in particular as opposed to the people who grew up with those other Nintendo consoles seems to be more cognitive dissonance in knowing the system was shit.
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>>12911823
Looks like blurry shit. Goldeneye looked way better.
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>>12912427
Cubies are arguably even worse desu
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>>12911797
you're watching ai slop
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Based OP is so obsessed about Nintendo that his algo feeds him exactly that kek
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>>12911797
the cold hard truth is that the N64 was Nintendo's magnum opus, and the NES/SNES are the actual overrated soimale picks. say what you want about muh no jarpigs or the tranny dildo controller, but OoT alone made the console worth the money
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>>12911797
Oh boy, it's gonna be another tired list of the exact same ten N64 games the fanboys jerk themselves off over as the greatest game in the history of the universe.

>Muh Mario
>Muh Zelda
>Muh GoldenEye
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>>12911823
It's only possible due to modern compilers being hyper optimized. Nothing to do with programmers lacking skill.
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>>12912652
>he cold hard truth is that the N64 was Nintendo's magnum opus,
ok
>and the NES/SNES are the actual overrated soimale picks.
I'm listening
>say what you want about muh no jarpigs or the tranny dildo controller,
Fuck yeah
>but OoT alone made the console worth the money
*record scratching noise*
lolwut? oot sux
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>>12912656
For me it's
Bangai O
Goemon's Great Adventure
F-Zero X
Sin and Punishment
Bomberman Hero
Shiren 2
Ogre Battle 64
Custom Robo
Starfox 64
Mischief Makers
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>>12912656
You also have Banjo Kazooie, Sin & Punishment, Star Fox 64, Rogue Squadron, Smash, F-Zero, Paper Mario, Kirby, etc.

It ain't much but it's better than anything on PSX
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The PS1 felt bad as a pirated illegitimate console Nintendo will always be the King of consoles
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>>12912427
You can call NES and SNES overrated by modern standards, but they are unquestionably the best consoles of their gen by a mile. And no, Genesis is not even close.
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>>12912673
No they aren't lol
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>>12912673
>modern standards
Modern standards are incredibly low, retro is high standard.
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>>12911896
Nigger, it doesn't even have a GPU installed. Even a $100 Rendition Verite card could run it at 30+ FPS.
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>>12912680
You know what I mean. I have no issue going back to 8-bit and 16-bit games, amd enjoy a great deal of them, but most people can acknowledge future gens had far greater breadth, depth, complexity, technology, variety. So even if N64 had a much smaller library, those games will be much more impactful and enjoyable to most people, so it's not unreasonable to prefer those later gens.

My point is that even if you don't enjoy NES and SNES games or think they've aged poorly or are overrated by players today, that they at least did by far the best for that gen, given the tech and compared to their competitors, so you absolutely have to give credit for that.
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>>12912679
>yeah bro the Master System had such bangers like uhhhh.... Golden Axe Warrior... and ummmmmm... Castle of Illusion... uhhhh..... hmmm...
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>>12912698
>but most people can acknowledge future gens had far greater breadth, depth, complexity, technology, variety
Debatable honestly. It had new technology. Better? That's up for debate. 3rd and 4th gen remain the peak of video games to me.
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>>12912704
>games should never have progressed beyond little shallow bleep bloop platformer games on a 2D plane
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>>12912670
based
>>12912673
>the insecure genesis callout
the nes is clearly best of gen 3, the snes is worse than both the mega drive and the pc engine.
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>>12912715
>the snes is worse than both the mega drive and the pc engine.
Nobody actually thinks this.
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>>12912715
PC Engine is a piece of shit shmup machine. Genesis does have some great games but SNES outnumbers it like 10:1
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>>12911797
>tendies
Go back to /v/
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>>12912717
>SNES outnumbers it like 10:1
with what? shovelware? lol
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oh shiddd auster is here
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>>12912716
Anyone who understands the hardware limitations of the snes thinks that
>>12912717
>pce only has shmups
>genesis
ok american. pce is known more for its rpg's than its shmups. it made good use of the cd add on
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>>12912672
ok ChatGPT
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>>12912728
The SNES library is borderline infinite. It's simply the best.
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>>12912728
>>12912724
Neither PCE or Genesis has even one game as good as Super Mario World, ALttP, DKC2, MegaMan X, Super Metroid, or Chrono Trigger. And SNES also has a way larger library of great and unique games, many of which are JP exclusive (which should not be an issue to you since 80% of PCE's library never released outside of JP)
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>>12912710
>Openworld slop is the peak!
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>>12911797
Sage
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>>12912735
>Super Mario World
C- game with some really awful level designs at times.
>ALttP
B game which really lost the point of zelda, interchangeable with games like centy and landstalker which all do their own thing and are more fun in their own ways.
>DKC2,
feel like I'm taking crazy pills, people love the game for the first world but nothing else lol the majority of the game is TRASH especially the animal friends stages fucking garbage out of 10.
>MegaMan X,
will take contra hard corps or ranger x over it easy
>Super Metroid
wonder boy and monster world games clear it so hard it's not even funn
>or Chrono Trigger
why do people like this one? What makes it a good game?
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I... stopped liking the Super Nintendo
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>>12912746
You have really bad taste in games, thanks for sharing I guess.
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>>12912748
You're a pussy and a bitch lol
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>>12911803
fpbp
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>>12911797
idk, but every nintendo adult I have met irl is an unhinged weirdo
Dissociation videos like these is a clear sign that there's something wrong with their heads
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>>12912746
>dood I love playing eurojank on me Amiger!!!
God, yuros are such a cucked race of retards.
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>>12912765
working at a game store they tend to make video game noises in real life lol. Always weird seeing a massive balding guy mimic mario in public.
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>>12912765
>>12912780
I look like that and do that
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i saw a nintendo fan inflate himself
just like a balloon
he also didnt had style nor grace
but had a funny face
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Every time I go out (about once or twice a year) the streets are full of nintendo fans
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>>12912735
Yes it does.
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Nintendo sucks!
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nintendo fans could be under your bed
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Why do tendies argue like children?
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Nintendo
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>>12912913
grrr
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>>12912746
based
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Tendo tendo man I want to be a tendo man
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>>12911864
he's hitting that blunt like a power-up xD
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>>12912989
Fun fact: psylocibin mushrooms wrre 100% legal and easily obtainable in Japan up until 2002.
So yeah haha mario eats shrooms and gets high!... Not really a joke when it was literally a common legal recreational drug
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>>12912992
But Mario is an upstanding American
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It's a cult
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>>12912746
>wonder boy and monster world
Oh man thanks for this, I did not expect it to be that good. After the somewhat tedious opening section, it becomes by far the best Megadrive game I've played (not that that's an incredible feat lol) once you get past the fairy section and properly access the hub.

It's barely anything like Super Metroid at all and you're being silly for making the comparison, but it genuinely mogs every Castlvania game and is on the level of quality of a high tier NES game overall.
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>>12912985
This is a very nintendo-coded false flag and if you don't know why you'll never get it.
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>>12911806
Takes time to get something to work on a system incapable of more than five frames per second with mud graphics.
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>>12911839
>Nobody would've even thought it was possible just last year.
Porting the game accurately, yea. It still is impossible. Are you dumb?
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>>12912728
>pce is known more for its rpg's than its shmups. it made good use of the cd add on
Correction; the PC Engine isn't known for anything, since nobody fucking bought it.
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>>12912734
Then why did you post a screencap with the worst garbage imaginable for it?
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>>12912823
I'm sure you do.
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>>12915551
Yeah, the skillsets required to get something good out of the PS1 and N64 were just completely different and the PS1 came out first so everyone was just already used to doing it like that and weren't willing to learn N64.
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>>12912765
Nintendo adults are children that never had parents at all. Their entire moral universe was assembled from brightly-colored power-ups, endless “you can do it!” encouragement, and the soft corporate paternalism of a company that has spent decades carefully sanding every sharp edge off reality.

Where Disney at least handed them a simplified but still recognizable ethical toolkit (loyalty, courage, the existence of actual villains), Nintendo handed them a padded room with cheerful music and the permanent promise that if you just keep jumping the right way, the world will reward you with another star. No hard lessons, no real stakes, just an infinite supply of second chances and the quiet insistence that anything outside the brand is somehow less pure.

The result is an adult who still flinches at criticism of their favorite company the way a toddler flinches at a raised voice, who treats every new hardware announcement like a religious holiday, and who genuinely believes that “fun” is a sufficient substitute for having a personality. Disney adults cosplay childhood. Nintendo adults never left it.
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>>12915576
It was the best selling console in japan for more than a year
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>>12915592
>in japan!
Correct, isn't known for anything.
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There was a lot of good games between the N64 and Saturn. If you think of them as just the two non PlayStation consoles and look at their libraries collectively, you had one groundbreaking console in the PlayStation with its enormous library, and another fairly decent library of console games that's not quite as big but roughly the same ratio of good and bad, with some standout exclusives and a few overlaps.
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>>12915597
ok. so i'm telling you and now you know
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>>12911883
Holy shit! Almost forgotten about this horror tranny! I think I left a nice comment under some video of his. I don't want to be murdered and I guess it's a nice person in the end.
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>>12912765
it's weird i can only find this in 5 other posts on the archive, i feel like i've seen this posted a lot more than that
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>>12915590
Good bait
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>>12911797
N64 is the most overrated piece of shit in history of video games
tendies always cope about their mastepieces but they know the console had no games which is why they only do Mario/Zelda/007 speedruns on it
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>>12912457
I've never seen it, though. Just looks to me like standard intra-franchise warring. I never see people trying to claim Wind Waker or Twilight Princess are the GOATs of all time that have never been surpassed and without which target locking in 3D would not exist. That's just a routine Ocarina baby take.
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>>12912746
im baffled console fanboy autism exists in the year of our lord 2026

I look at these people with disgust in my face, that you are so unintelligent you can't just enjoy games no matter what console they are on
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>>12917271
I think it's a result of bad parenting, associating yourself with a label or some kind of perceived group allows one to seek validation and form an identity with very little effort.
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>>12917391
why would you associate yourself with a label and a "group" that died like 25 years ago. Why would you even call yourself a fanboy of ANYTHING game industry related when every company has stopped existed or become an evil shell of their former selves (Valve, Nintendo, Sony)

Im just a fan of good games, it doesnt matter to me what year they came out it and who made them and what console they are for. Who gives a fuck about any of that anymore when we live in a bleak dystopia where everything corporate fucking sucks and exists to fuck you in the ass as hard as possible.
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>>12917517
Because associating yourself with something old or obscure makes you feel more unique and special. Go look up any boomer song on youtube to see all the 13 year old kids talking about how they're the only one in their class who listens to it. It's very typical child/manchild behavior.
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>>12911820
the saturn didnt have much of anything really
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>>12916684
Even with fun titles like Goemon or Duke Nukem Zero Hour, its not like they care to talk about those games either. Its always bing bing wahoo/Zelda/Goldeneye, maybe Banjo Kazooie or Perfect Dark if they feel generous. Or they'll talk about Conker's Bad Fur Day while probably never making it past the poop world or never touching multiplayer
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>>12917271
>noooo you just don't like it because THE CONSOLE ITS ON
the smartest motherfucker on the board right here.
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>>12918680
Bloodlines is good, so is Castlevania 4. They are about both on par for me for their own reasons and I replay both.

Comparing Megaman X to Contra Hard Corps is absolute fucking retarded. About the only fuckin thing they have in common is they both have guns, you sound like a bitch desu. Megaman X and X2 are god-tier games with insanely crisp movement and a super high skill ceiling, you got to be a tard to even comparing it. Pulseman or Rocket Knight Adventures are closer to Megaman than contra, but you wouldnt know that cause you're a tard that doesnt actually play games.
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>>12917271
i asked myself this in 2025
and 2024
the truth is, the average /vr/ buck is as retarded as anywhere else
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>>12918708
castlevania 4 wouldn't be a particularly better or worse game if it were on genesis.
>Comparing Megaman X to Contra Hard Corps is absolute fucking retarded.
They are both video games.
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>>12918719
Compare hard corps to Super Contra if you dont want to look retarded. Im not an expert on either because I hate 1 shot kill games, beating ghost n goblins with only 2 hits was good enough for me.

Speaking of, Ghouls and Ghosts vs Super Ghouls n Ghosts. I think Genesis wins there.

Sunset Riders, Genesis is a downgrade but has actually better controls and a more fun slide with more i-frames.

Beyond Oasis and Land Stalker are great, but SNES has Secret of Mana and Terranigma. I dunno, they are all just good fucking games. Beyond Oasis and Landstalker have meatier gameplay and is more tuned for enthusiast gamers. but are so inferior in the music and writing and atmosphere department.
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>>12911797
so what's this guy's argument?
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>>12918756
Nintendo's focus on making a smaller number of high quality games and cancelling promising projects such as Mother 3 (N64) and Fire Emblem 6 (N64) with wild abandon was a failure from a strategic and business perspective due to the fact that it prevented them from developing the Princess Peach dating sim that would have surely saved the console and ushered in a decades-long dark age of Nintendomination.
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>>12911797
Hot take: The N64 has no masterpieces. Every single game on it is bad.
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>>12918875
Think again, fucker.
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>>12911862
As much as I love the N64, and have fond memories of playing N64 in my childhood, RE2 was better on the PSX. The PSX also had a wider library of great games. The N64 just had a handful of masterpieces.
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>>12918886
Even the snes has better japslop reality shoe vns
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>>12918708
Yeah I didn't even respond to that guy, such an obvious try-hard provocateur.
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>>12918875
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>>12911797
How many times are you going to make this thread directing us to the same video?
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>>12917271
I resent my own experiences being dissected out of the kind of simplified received videogame history that gets packaged up for new generations by games journalists, and it's a little tied up in console war shit. But really who fucking cares.
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>bait title
>/vr/ bites like a tub full of piranha



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