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Eventually all of our games will rot away
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The games are the software, not the hardware. They will live on.
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>>12913206
Not if you get rid of all the shitass capacitors and batteries before they pop and leak.
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>>12913216
Problem is cases like pic related where removing that battery wipes the security keys rendering the game unplayable.
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>>12913206
>battery acid eats away non-important part of board with replaceable parts
oh no! this is an hour or two job. maybe longer to clean it and neutralise the battery acid.

>>12913227
>Problem is cases like pic related where removing that battery wipes the security keys rendering the game unplayable.
https://hackaday.com/2016/09/15/desuiciding-capcom-arcade-boards/
a problem solved a decade ago.
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>>12913206
>Eventually all of our games will rot away
But you keep ranting about how you're """preserving""" them by downloading them.
>our
lmfao
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Right, dispose of your belongings RIGHT NOW!
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>>12913206
At this point early digital releases have outlasted all the disc rotted physical copies that people were hoarding.
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>>12913256
>non-important part of board with replaceable parts
Anon, that big chip at the bottom has damaged traced and corrosion. This would be a very involved repair job and would require someone of high skill.
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>>12913567
Disc rot is just a meme
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Eventually robots will fabricate any old hardware like a 3D printer.
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>>12913567
>At this point I'm underage, poor, and seething
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>>12913206
I'll just get a new flashcart, gg ez
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Not true, many Game Boy games are physically etched into silicon. That's why it is read only. These games will last very long.
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>>12914427
>Disc rot is just a meme
false. once one game is infected, the entire collection is soon to follow.
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>>12914762
Stop living in a bayou.
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>>12914762
>Once one childs """mind""" is infected they/them will be shitposting about it until tidepods
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>>12913206
Your penis will stop working before your games do. Better get rid of that too.
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>>12914424
>that big chip at the bottom has damaged traced and corrosion.
it does but it looks like it's mostly surface related compared to the damage done to the top two in the upper left. and traces can be repaired. looks salvageable to me. i've seen far worse. all of these chips are replaceable as capcom made many of these boards
>would require someone of high skill.
not much skill required. you could watch a few youtube videos, a bit of practice - you too could fix anything. it's remarkably easy to solder surface mounted chips or fix broken traces. don't need much equipment either. basics: reliable soldering iron (preferably with temperature control), heat gun, multimeter, flux, solder paste and enamelled wire. that's it.
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>>12914928
>stop
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Emulation will always win anon, the hardware will fade, the memories will not
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>>12913206
>physical media get damaged over time
>digital media get lost over time
neither will matter when you die
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>>12913256
A problem solved a decade ago... For Capcom Kabuki boards. It's not something you can just reverse engineer for other mobos. These workarounds don't grow on trees.
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>>12914762
That's not how disk rot works. It's not pokerus.
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>>12914424
>>12914972
It's pretty bad, but I believe it's repairable. It's beyond my skill level though so I'm actually going to send it to a professional for repairs.
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>>12916634
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>>12916634
How are newer generations going to have memories of a game they boot up for the first time in an emulator?
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>>12916808
>XVS
X-Men vs Street Fighter?
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>>12916987
it will be part of a multitasked adhd haze. they won't have clear memories of any of it
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>>12917059
Yes
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>>12916987
By playing the games in said emulator?
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>>12916801
>It's not something you can just reverse engineer for other mobos.
this is what arcade bootleggers/hackers have been doing for many decades. where you born yesterday?

>>12916808
>but I believe it's repairable.
it is
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If a Famicom can endure for 40 years and hold up any degradation that renders your shit unplayable is on you.
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>>12918384
Then name some examples. Which other arcade boards with battery-backed suicide mechanisms have had their security systems reverse-engineered and their original hardware successfully desuicided? I'm not disputing that reverse engineering has been happening for decades. Demonstrate that this particular problem has been solved across different hardware architectures.
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>>12918503
>I'm not disputing that reverse engineering has been happening for decades
seems like you are
>schizo retard thinks everyone is same anon
now that's truly unfortunate. even the blindest and most retarded fucking retard can see anon is talking about solving the problem of cps2 keys being wiped while you have a mental breakdown at strangers dabbing on your cringe posts.
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12918521
dumb retard
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>>12918534
>when you're so absolutely BTFO by strangers that your spine disappears and you can't reply to people properly
thank you for your valuable contribution, le epic hardware expert.
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>>12913214
This is true.
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>>12918503
This board is truly dead. There are examples of this being done on other hardware. Sega's FD1089/FD1094 security processors used battery-backed encryption keys on System 16, System 18 and X boards. The protection was reverse-engineered, the encrypted program ROMs were decrypted, and dead boards can be revived by replacing the security CPU with a standard 68000 and installing replacement ROMs. Sega Resurrection even offers kits for this. Gaelco's DS5002FP-based protection is another example. MAME developers reverse-engineered that system as well. But, as you pointed out, these are entirely different security architectures, requiring entirely different reverse-engineering efforts. A solution for a Sega FD1094 doesn't magically work on a Gaelco DS5002FP, a Capcom CPS2 board, or some other manufacturer's hardware. That's the point. It doesn't mean every suicide mechanism has an existing solution, or that recovering one is a trivial repair job.
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>>12918384
>where you born yesterday?
>where
grim esl.
>>12919278
WERE there any particularly notorious examples that took years to crack?
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>>12913206
The same can be said of anything.
Besides, video games are works of art; and art is worth saving.
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>>12922069
>video games are works of art
no
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>>12922075
Shut up down there, Roger Ebert. Your opinion is double worthless.
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>>12918521
No one owes retarded little faggots like you anything. Cry harder.
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>>12913206
Nothing lasts forever anyway
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you know even with perfect preservation of your vidya games your own body is going to rot and die anyway
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>>12916634
>the hardware will fade,
You can literally run hardware made before 2013, 24/7 for decades on end and nothing will ever happen except for dust accumulating.
You have to be retarded to think hardware self destructs for no reason with the passage of time
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>>12922386
This is why you leave a legacy with physical media behind and not lock everything down to your incel steam account that no one will find out about, won't be able to access if found and will inevitably get deleted 3 years later due to GDPR and disappear just like your subhuman body will.
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>>12922386
WHAT?! I'll have to preserve that too?!



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