PC build I just finished.
>>12921713Black Mesa, home.
Thoughts on period correct peripherals?
>>12921724I prefer wireless mice.
>>12921724I have 2 USB Dell ball mice. One of them was from a B110 I got for Christmas back in 2005, the other I got in an estate. I don't know which is which, but they're both old enough to drink. >>12921713I just got some shitty gateway laptop for free, I'm going to *try* to got 32 bit windows 10 on it since it's already cuntlocked to 4gb ram. 1080p display and something like 10.5 hours of usable battery life.
>>12921767Why do you want to run Windows 10 on that?
>>12921713NEVER ABSOLUTE
>>12921778That's all that's supported.
>>12922798You could run Windows 98 or XP. Hell, even Linux would fare better.
>>12922798So not retro
>>12922798???It says right there "Designed for Windows XP".
>>12921724Ball mice are absolute war crimes and I'm glad they're extinct.
Why does Half-Life give me a headache whenever I try to play it?
>>12921713i just don't see the appeal in assembling a retro PC. parts are fast disappearing and in questionable conditions. only thing i could see being worth it is finding a solution so you can emulate with CRT connected to a modern computer but that's it. things like 86box do more than enough including emulating specific graphics cards.
>>12923668mister fpga can replicate dozens of retro pc's and connect to crt easily
>>1292366886Box is kinda limited in that it requires a very powerful PC if you hope to emulate a fast Pentium II, and forget about XP-era hardware support. That said, pretty much everything from that era onward is basically just an early version of what we currently use today, so it doesn't actually require emulating an entire machine to get games to play properly on modern Windows.
>>12923318Does that look like a gateway to you
>>12923645The default FOV might be too low for youTry changing it with the default_fov console command
>>12923689>86Box is kinda limited in that it requires a very powerful PC if you hope to emulate a fast Pentium IIEmulating a PII system or later is almost pointless for the exact reason you've given. Late 90s stuff starts getting standardized and can run natively on modern machines (worst case scenario you have to use patches or wrappers like dgVoodoo2)86Box letting you emulate a PII is more of an unnecessary bonus
>>12923682>mister fpga can replicate dozens of retro pc'scan it? i only know about its console emulation capabilities. who works on those? it seems like a lot of people work on the mister which very much seems to be an all-in-one situation and i don't say that snidely. i just don't know enough about it
>>12923812https://mister-devel.github.io/MkDocs_MiSTer/cores/computer/ao486 (dos) is the main one but there are more coming. pc98 is in experimental and not on this list for example
>>12923972>>12923973Jesus fuck, this has to be the ad, or one very close to it in time, my uncle perused back in the day, because my cousin had a VERY similar 486 Packard Bell desktop to the one in the second image AND all five of those very Disney VHS tapes, even down to the Snow White one being that exact Masterpiece edition.
>>12923668>i just don't(You) problem
>>12923690S-shut up.
>>12923972>>12923973Between these two ads why the hell would you buy the $2000 computer when the computer that's $500 less has basically the same features?
>>12924361The "cheaper" ones don't include the printer and monitor
>>12924371I did notice the printer but I didn't notice the monitor being separate.Fair point, rescinded.
>>12922945Sometimes you just need to play kotor widescreen and watch the fat juicy asses bouncing around
>>12924013it's not a problem at all though. if anything, people like (You) that spend an inordinate amount of time/money obsessing over having an "authentic" experience are the ones with the problem. people like me actually play the games instead of desperately wanting to look like we do.
>>12923972Nice tower
>>12923668>parts are fast disappearing and in questionable conditions.Stuff with moving parts are shaky, even NOS stuff can be dead on arrival. But the majority of this stuff that has survived this long has done so precisely because it's rock solid. The majority of the crap has already broken down.My GPU doesn't even use a heatsink because it doesn't generate enough heat. The CRT monitor it's connected to spent 12 years sitting in a hot garage before traveling 3000 miles seat-belted into my passenger seat before I finally got a chance to hook it up and use it, and it's mint. I have three old IDE HDD's hooked up to it, two from an old PC that also made the 3000 mile trip that were used for about 7 years, and another from another PC that had 8 years of use on it. They worked flawlessly, and I was able to pull all old files off of them before formatting to use them as extra storage. Just about everything in the machine is 25 years old, and it works great with no odd issues. At worst I expect the CPU's fan to burn out since it might be 25 years old too, or the 22 year old PSU's fan to die. Honestly, both parts should have broken down ages ago, but they still function.It's just like how you still see plenty of old Camaro's and F-150's on the road, but not a ton of Pinto's or Citation's anymore.
>>12924842Please stop being critical of something you don't even care about.
>>12924842>people like me actually play the gamesNot accurately.
>>12925712Accuracy is overrated and you know it.
>>12925736tranny
>>12925736I wouldn't know because i never got rid of my original hardware.
>>12925692truth hurts doesn't it
>>12921713Man that is awesome. What did the entire thing cost because I’m really tempted to do something like that.
>>12927302most expensive thing there is the keyboard kek
Computer's fully done now. Installed the USB breakout that I wanted to make use of the last set of headers on my USB header hub.
>>12927302Not OP, but I'd say no more than 500 bucks, possibly even half that.
>>12927593How close was I? >>12927602
>>12927603Well this was the result of me restarting a project that I fucked up so do I need to count the motherboard and CPU I never got to use?Without that it was like...maybe $170 all-in, not counting the shit I threw in because it was in my spare parts bin, I guess.
Just tried the latest 86Box dev build and the dynarec performance improvements are realTested Half-Life in software mode with a 400 MHz PII and so far I didn't drop below 100% emulation speed, and my host CPU is a Ryzen 5 5600X I didn't test tons of stuff so of course it might drop below 100% in some other scenarios, but still
>>12927607>so do I need to count the motherboard and CPU I never got to use?No.>Without that it was like...maybe $170 all-in, not counting the shit I threw inSo 250 bucks about. Figured. Cool!
>>12921713I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I want to build myself a PC that can play everything retrogaming -- meaning, everything including PS2 and Xbox Classic games.Obviously, such a build will not require an expensive GPU or DDR5 RAM. So what kind of specs can I get that can play all of this shit smoothly? Can I make a 400-500 dollar rig for this?
>>12928124you mean play retro recomps and emus? I'd say just get a used 1080ti/2080ti and 12400f but I have no ideea how the used market is right now
>>12928048My PCem experience sucked, is this better? Couldn't even get to properly run Dark Reign on PCem.
>>12928146NTA, but PCem is thoroughly outclassed now. Up until very recently, its only real advantage over 86Box was that it was faster (mostly due to emulating less stuff and taking certain accuracy shortcuts in the name of performance). However, over the past few months, the gap in that regard has closed considerably to the point that there's barely a difference, and the cutting edge builds of 86Box have a fuckton more features, emulate way more hardware, have far less bugs, and have higher compatibility on the whole.That said, I've not tried Dark Reign on 86Box, so I couldn't tell you how well it runs. I'd be surprised if a properly set up, sufficiently fast machine couldn't run it, however. Being a game from 1997, it shouldn't need much more than a mid-range Pentium MMX to run acceptably.
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>>12928102Mind you a decent portion of that (like the upper $70 or so) was adding a feature that was completely non-retro just because I wanted to see it happen.
>>12921713Very nice. I am running into problems trying to get technologies that were abandoned to work. For example I have a few of these Intel Optane drives but there's now Windows 7 drivers for them because no one adopted the tech even though it does some things better than what we have now. Pretty cool you got yours working, I especially like the model M keyboard.
>>12925739Yes, yes (you) are.
>>12928146>is this better?Yes, especially since they learned to stop worrying and embrace the vibe code. PCem is hilariously outdated and far behind (and whenever they ever release v18, it will still be far behind 86Box).
>retro pc>non-crt monitorwhat's the point
>>12928960Not retro
>>12929195I had a spare CRT monitor but it became my main CRT monitor when the one I had in my retro corner died earlier in the weekend.
>>12924842>people like me actually spend all ours/ours time seething and coping about people who aren't as poor as wees/wees
It's not finished but its getting there. Note: my special rotating lcd monitors.Those hide away the CRT monitor. But. I dont really have a good stand for the CRT monitor so I've improvised a part from a wooden box for now..
>>12921713Is this an win XP?
>>12930032Me
>>12930032>Is this an win XP?Only if it's from whatever 3rd world shithole """people""" say "an win XP"
>>12930649Oh im american. Whats wrong with windows XP? What do you call it?
>>12930463Thats kinda bad though. Im nktnsure why you'd want a gaming rig on Me. I rec either xp or win98 se quick install
>>12930769I had a specific reason, due to the design of the system. This was a very intentional build.
>>12930827Ohhhh why did you need Me?Was it your hardware/driver situation?
>>12930827Intentionally bad like the millennial troll PC thread on VOGONS?
>>12923973Very nice!I have a PB Pentium66 from a bit later... '95 I guess.
>>12931014Forgot the pic
