Was Sonic the Hedgehog's environmentalist themes understood in the 80s or was it largely over the head of people who played? You've got to think how these themes radicalized kids in a small way, alongside the cartoons they watched. If you think of it, Sonic is basically committing terrorism against corporations. Or did kids not really understand it at the time.
>>12923870They played as a fast radical hedgehog who jumps and spindashes and does all sorts of shit. autistic kids had no time to bother with this gay faggotry!
>>12923870>80sGood bait
It's fine we all watched Captain Planet before Sonic even existed
Nobody understood anything very well except some corporate millionaires and even then they often were delusional.
>M-M-MILLIONAIRES BAD>C-C-CORPORATIONS BADgo to bed underaged retard
Gee I sure wonder if kids who watched stuff like Captain Planet and FernGully understood environmentalist messaging in Sonic the Hedgehog
>>12924016>>M-M-MILLIONAIRES BAD>>C-C-CORPORATIONS BADThis but unironically
>>12923870I was one of those kids and I was well aware of the messaging. Environmentalism and protecting wildlife were common themes back then, even my teachers would preach about it. I think it was the big liberal philosophy back then, whereas nowadays I guess it's just LGBT bullshit.
>>12924104I would say that as a kid growing up in the 90s, environmentalism was basically a given, what with stuff like Captain Planet. Did I actively think about that in the context of Sonic? Probably not, I only played the early Sonic games at friends' houses. Sonic freeing animals from inside robots and from the end of area holding tanks kinda speaks for itself, though. And while it wasn't as important to the main plot, there were elements of this in DKC and DKC2, with Kremkroc Industries pumping out pollution on the top of DK Island, or how Kremland in DKC2 was encroaching on the Zinger hives/habitat, and how the Kremlings were aggressively polluting the waters around their island.
Yeah, it was even more obvious in merchslop like Where's Waldo-likes and the comics, you'd just have swatbots out randomly pouring toxic waste in the forest because fuck them trees. It wasn't subtle.But, I just don't use Monsanto and shit like that, it's not like it really taught us to firebomb factories or anything. Plus, you had the hole in the o-zone layer, so protecting the environment wasn't yet political.
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>>12923870Media literacy was discovered by zoomers. Millennials didn't even know the Combine in HL2 were aliens until Episode 2
>>12923870>committing terrorism against corporationsIt was never framed like this, rather it was the other way around. Robotnik was always portrayed as the terrorist or invader, who was coming into the peaceful land and polluting it. And it wasn't like he was motivated by corporate profits, he was just an evil prick who wanted to rule the world and fuck it up for the sake of it.The environmental message was a very simple, child friendly 'don't pollute' and 'look after your environments'. It was wholly uncontroversial and a nice message for kids.
>80s
>>12923872vegans are homophobic though
>>12924016based bootlicker>>12924459>Millennials didn't even know the Combine in HL2 were aliens until Episode 2in the base game there's given 0 indication who the combine leaders are. breen keeps going on and on about "benefactors" and my mind initially went to "oh, must be bilderberg billionaire types". and yeah at the end of the game he's contacting extraterrestrials of some kind but again there's no indication if they are part of the combine. then in the beginning part of episode 1 you first see the advisors but don't know anything else about them. even at the end of ep 2 when they kill eli you still don't know what their relation is to the combine other than they are a serious superweapon of some kind.
>>12923870>in the 80sEat him alive and fuck him up or something
In Sonic CD terms, are we heading towards a "Bad Future"?
>>12924062This, OP is retarded
>>12924825Case in point.
>>12924825>in the base game there's given 0 indicationIn the intro teleport sequence Breen is reporting you to a slug alien on his TV screens. In Nova Prospekt he's calling his goons the transhuman arm of the enforcement squad and threatening offworld reassignment, In the ending a couple gunships fly out of a giant warp hole in the sky that shows alien skies and a bunch of Citadels. Gunships and the flying things that carry around the troop pods are giant bug aliens. It isn't hammered into you but it's clearly an alien occupation of some kind.
It was understood. People weren't triggered by protecting nature back then. It's only your snowflake generation.
It's sad that in current year "maybe we shouldn't pollute our environment and take better care of it" is a controversial statement that makes some people lose their minds
Humanity is doomed and should just be purged
>>12923870In the early 90s the environmental narrative was taught to kids as "save the cute animals from experiments and oil spills, save the whales, stop river pollution, stop cutting down trees!" Pollution from factories made people sick and caused acid rain. The gospel of carbon wasnt being pushed as hard (yet). Saving cute animals from evil scientists was one of the few things kids actually understood or cared for at the time. So yes kids who played sonic "got it".
>>12925202Captain Planet saves us from Nazis with mohawks and uhh... fishermen?
>>12925032In particular, the idea that we should CONSERVE our environment is widely considered anti-CONSERVative for some completely bizarre reason
>>12925206I loved the idea of environmentalism as a kid and have never seen any reason to change stance on it since then. But Captain Planet was always lame. Like why is that dude a fanged pigman just because he's greedy and likes to pollute? Those caricatures never appealed to me in the slightest. Somebody like Shredder or Cobra Commander was funny and had charisma, but Captain Planet villains were just empty strawmen.The fisherman is the pig guy's main henchman. He is a ratman for some reason and has big ratlike teeth that you can't see in that picture. He is not very important.The one and only important thing about Captain Planet is this: Linka is hot.
>>12925032you have to understand; propaganda is very effective and the people reaping the most rewards from fucking shit up are very good at propaganda that gets the people who suffer from it to defend it. Caring about anything besides the line going up is gay
>>12925231Sometimes the badguys didnt even earn profit from their factories, they just built industrial sludge makers and polluted for the sake of polluting while doing big belly laughs. It was like truckers "rolling coal" on cyclists, just spite.
>>12923870Sonic didn't exist in the 80s. Neither did Captain Planet.
>>12923870>Was Sonic the Hedgehog's environmentalist themes understood in the 80sWell understood even by kids. It was an everyday theme of the 80s and 90s school life.
No, we got it. Just who gives af.
>>12923870environmentalist ideologic theming is about as subtle as a sledgehammer swinging in a chandelier shop. So yes, people are aware whenever it comes up.>>12925032just a widdle environmentalist gamer, right? Couldn't have anything to do with any other kind of power play, or cover for any other hostile actions right? And it has absolutely no downsides ever....right?
Environmentalist shit back then was shit, it's only looked back on fondly now because it's less bad than the shit we have now. At least it came with rainforest fairy waifu flicks.
>>12925554based Monsanto shill
>>12925032Indeed.I'm more conservative and right wing leaning... but it's pointless to want to conserve anything if the planet is fucking dead, or the living conditions in some areas do create a humanitarian crisis for us to have to deal with.
>>12924917Already there.
>>12924917You can't do anything, so don't even try it. Get some help.
>>12923870sure 90s kids were radical but not in the political sense
>>12925390And now we have AI bros doing the same thing
>>12925032A large portion of the right wings only political goal is "do the opposite of what liberals want". It's depressing how far they've fallen, and what they'll defend.
