>>3936125
It's a great twist, but it retroactively ruins Archolos for me.

>>3936125
It's honestly impressive how the Poles managed to make a named character with less personality than the Nameless hero.

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>>3936125
>mug him for his sword and crossbow in in the first chapter
punished Scar

>>3936132
It was a shit twist
>Here's how you fixed everything, good job hero
>Also you get thrown into the barrier so we can railroad you one last time
I'm cool with fan canon being picked up in other mods, but this one is just bad.

>>3936137
Lel
Scar does have personality too. It's just nasty and brutish.
>And I'm also making sure the women get their's, hahahaha

>>3936282
>>Here's how you fixed everything, good job hero
>>Also you get thrown into the barrier so we can railroad you one last time
I will never understand why people are butthurt about this. It's believable that a nobody rapidly gaining influence is bound to be noticed by the elites and either recruited or destroyed.

I think it's less weird than Raven, some literal nobody with no personality, becoming the main villain in NotR.

>>3936457
Raven at least is a moderately bad guy becoming even worse. Scarvin is the hero becoming a villain.
#notmymarvin

>>3937095
Marvin killed his father and robbed his mother's grave. Sure, he is a nice person for most of the game but he is not crystal clear. Besides, fallen hero is a great trope.

Being able to kill really strong NPCs with super strong gear and lots of experience by yourself is incredibly immersion breaking.

Is Archolos worth playing if you're not Polish?

>>3937506
I really really loved it
the main city is outrageously impressive, one of the best CRPG cities of all time

>>3937506
Yes, there is a fair bit of replayability
>Can join the Guard as a faction, they give you the option to specialize as either a crossbowman(unlike NoTR here it is very viable option) or 2 handed melee combatant
>Trade guild(Araxos), bowman or 1 handed melee
each specialization comes with their own quests too
or if you feel like ditching your faction, later on you can also go independent with unique armor and quests (plural it depends on the faction you ditched)
you also have to make a choice between your professions
>Butcher
>Alchemist
>Blacksmith
>Carpenter (the "not thieves guild")
>Bowmaker

>>3937095
A decade goes by between Archolos and Gothic 1

>>3937541
crossbow is plenty viable in NotR
I can't remember if it was actually really good or just good enough to be viable because I did it like 10 years ago but I definitely did a crossbow run.

>>3936137
>with less personality than the Nameless hero
In my language the Nameless hero had a lot of personality, though he had two fairly different personalities depending on the voice actor.

>>3937506
Yeah sure
If you're russian or at least german

>game called Gothic
>no cute Goth girls in it

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>>3937643

>>3937671
She doesn't look cute at all, she reminds me of "sexy babe.png" from those shitty German porn games in the 90s (like the Lula games or something)

>>3937692
their file names all like babe_1, babe_2.

>>3937570
>plenty viable as long as you skip all the crossbow training(meaning you won't hot anything that isn't right on front of you) to scrape together enough str and dex to use it and deal actual damage
no, fuck that gay balance

>>3937707
NTA but I think the crossbow was designed as a supplement for a melee-focused character, while the master sword was a supplement for an archer, so neither of them was supposed to be the core of one's build.

>>3937714
in original Gothic 2 yes
Notr removed that idea completely, there just isn't enough LPs to have a decent handling on crossbow
in Archolos you can be okay swordsman and a master crossbowman, hell you can you can even wield high dex weapons and still train str and handling if you want to roleplay as duelist/spearman
NoTR's balance also destroyed paladin magic (it sucks dicks in the expansion)

>>3937737
>Notr removed that idea completely, there just isn't enough LPs to have a decent handling on crossbow
Eh, I think you can do it if you use tablets and potions optimally.
>NoTR's balance also destroyed paladin magic (it sucks dicks in the expansion)
That part is true, the magic becomes more of a flavor rather than a tool.
>in Archolos you can be okay swordsman and a master crossbowman, hell you can you can even wield high dex weapons and still train str and handling if you want to roleplay as duelist/spearman
My Archolos build was bullshit. Had high STR and DEX, used one-handed DEX melee weapons, I had a crossbow (I didn't use it much, admittedly), and maxed out spell circles, although my mana pool was rather humble. It wasn't a problem, though, because I used the mana regen set.

I just played through Gothic 1. It was nauseating dogshit. The entire game had me running joyless errands. Nice jogging simulator for homosexuals. The end game swarmed me with hordes of enemies until it was unceremoniously over. My only other Gothic experience was 3 in 2006 which was garbage. I'm not holding my breath for 2. If 2 games so far were bad I'm not expecting a masterpiece from the most hyped of them.

I'm this anon's mom by the way >>3937987, his favorite games are Skyrim and Oblivion.

>>3938540
Lel
I for one like both skyrim and gothic. They're just different games. But they both have great atmosphere (in different ways) and decent gameplay.

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>>3937987
"It's not for everyone" sounds condescending so I'll rephrase it in a coomer way

G1 is like a boobjob simulator. It still somewhat appeals to blowjob enjoyers but barely appeals to those who don't like foreplay much.

You are right. About 65% of the game is just foreplay, 10% sex, and 25% just wanting to get it over with because you've had enough.
This game does appeal to people who unironically enjoy the realistic approach to a fantasy realm i.e. you'd get rekt most of the time unless you tread lightly, make friends or learn 2 cheese.
Getting to the point where you're no longer afraid of the woods, ruins and all the fags you put up with is very cathartic tho C4 onward is very barebones so I can see why people quit.
>tl;dr
great game as a teen, horrible game as an adult unless you got lucky and have a non-crushing job

>>3937987
3rd is an absolute shit. 1st is bad. 2nd is the best of all and pretty good. Better than most rpgs today, but far away from games like witcher.
I played 2nd 4 times, while rage quit the 3rd after 2 hours and player the 1st one because I was in a state of expecting something more because of the 2nd.

>>3939207
I pulled the orcs and their dogs and lured them all the way into the castle. Probably the funniest shit I've seen since Skyrim.

>>3939683
kek I had no idea you could do that, farthest I kited them was to Pedro or w/e his name was and he runs away
I did learn ledge archery to snipe most critters on the map, transforming into a raptor works too but you need to turn back human before you lvl up else you lose the HP boost

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How hyped are you girls for the remake? Less than 3 months away! Sexy Diego? Possibly gay?

>>3940984
Gothic 1 could be improved but everything I saw about the demake was a plain downgrade.

>>3940984
Ill give it a pirate run
As long as it isn't full of memory leaks like ash and steel
My hopium is very low doe

>>3940984
genuinely do not care
teaser was atrocious
Nyras demo sucked
they have learned nothing from the feedback all wrapped in a turd burrito that is Unreal Engine

>>3937707
is it really that big a deal? I'm usually not that build autistic and I remember being like "yeah this is working really well" killing all the shit in the expansion with a crossbow. Maybe chapter 1 was hard, I can't remember.

>>3941034
For Honor combat was not something Gothic needed.

>>3940984
I actually bought 1st and 2nd game on gog to support the developers, after playing a pirated version decade ago. Rocky mistakes as all the rights were sold to a shitty company that produced a cringe remake video.

>>3940984
They literally cant do shit past Gothic 3 fail after fail. THERE IS ZERO HOPE it would be good.

>>3941662
The remake is not made by the same studio.

>>3936457
They did it to fit the expansion's name

>>3936137
>marvin in chapter 1
sucky sucky five dorra any quest you want
>marvin in chapter 6
rip and tear, until it's done

>>3942009
Other way round
And I'm ok with it. They wanted to make one of the old camp guys the bad guy, raven is an obvious choice. Gomez and Bartholo have dialogue where they start fights, they should be canonically dead. The rest are fair game, but Raven is more intelligent than Scar and Arto and not sympathetic like Thorus.

Where the FUCK is my GOTHIC CLASSIC REMASTERED on PS5????
I swear to god, THQ are NIGGERS

>>3945904
Nobody who likes Gothic cares about the shitty remaster. It's mainly aimed at people who didn't get into the series because they are too retarded to figure out the controls or get past the graphics.

I loved elex so I decided to give gothic a go. Its a bit shit so far. its god ugly and nothing has hooked me so far. maybe it is too old for me. which other bitey fish games should I try?

>>3945962
Try Risen 1.

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>>3945962
G 2 is their best game by a mile and 1 must be played first
1 has its problems but I thought the art grows on you soon enough, and with plugins it plays a lot better

>>3945904
>console monkey
>calls somebody else the n-word

Can someone convince me to give Gothic and Risen a chance? It feels like I may like them if I invest a lot of time into them, but I'm too burnt out from other games to commit.

Honestly, based on this thread and the reviews I see, there's no way my casual gamer brain can stomach any of this: jank, controls, leveling system/learning points (barf!), and of course being treated like shit/fighting like shit the first half of the game until you can actually fight.... these games aren't for someone like me, are they?

Can someone convince me that they're worth it?

>>3951121
>Skyrim casual
>Can someone convince me that they're worth it?
No, fuck off.

>>3951121
If you're still mentally flexible enough to learn a new combat system, try gothic 2 with a good mod (try archolos by all means). They fix the levelling system and make it fun. Gothic2 combat system is unusual, but interesting, tactical and skill-based.
Gothic2 and archolos have a great atmosphere and interesting (if small) world, actually quite comparable to skyrim IMO.
>fighting like shit the first half of the game until you can actually fight
Don't know what you mean. Literally the first 2 levels worth of points any normal player spends is on getting the mid tier combat stance, which is perfectly usable. Fighting like a dork for the first two hours is part of the experience.

>>3937621
but how can one enjoy gothic without german dub?

>>3940984
qüq...if even piranha bytes couldnt make a proper gothic after 2, no one can. ryzen 1 and elex 1 were both decent but they were nowhere near any kino that happened in gothic 2. and even gothic 1 had its good moments. and for some fucking reason gothic 3 with all the fixes and community patches STILL runs like absolute dogshit on a modern rig.

>>3953182
I think the latest AI tool can do german voices for archolos. Or you find someone to send you the taken down old AI voiceover. It was good.

>>3953187
I've just finished replaying G3 last week and the game at least runs smoothly now, you need community patch, parallel universe patch, update pack, DXVK and 4gb patch. With all of these it's rock solid 60fps and load times are reasonable.
The game's still kinda shit but for some reason I keep returning to it.

>>3953191
It has a beautiful world, rewards you with loot and xp, makes you feel powerful when you liberate entire cities. Which is frankly most of what we want from an RPG in the first place.

>>3953191
fuck me, hans, i will try again. but i feel like i did all those things 2 years ago when i last tried. lets do it again..

>>3953203
From what I can tell it's either the parallel patch or DXVK doing the heavy lifting, there is some shader compilation stutters in first few minutes of entering a new area but past that It's been solid.
There's also this G3CU tool that can uncompress textures but I haven't tried that didn't feel like it was necessary but if you run into problems you can try that as a last ditch effort.

>>3953208
damn bro. you saved my beacon. it truly works now. flawless 60fps right from the bat. i cannot believe it. it is indeed dxvk that makes this a smooth experience! fuark...a "new" gothic...thanks, my man.

>does not install german voice.pak if steam interface is not german
downloading again..

>>3953187
>ryzen 1 and elex 1
What about AMD Ryzen?

>woke up
>remembered i have gothic 3 to play now
>feel good
i need to find and suck this anon off, eh>>3953191

Dear Gothic fans,

Are you all masochists?

Sincerely,
Non-Gothic fans

>>3954175
kys redditroon

>>3954456
I’ll give you a hint, newfriend: “troon” and 4chins both come from the same place, and it’s older than R*ddit

>>3954461
I don't give a shit that 4chan was founded by a rich privileged white baby (with Jew investments later on) on a forum filled with trannies-in-training

kys redditroon

>>3954480
>rich privileged white baby
Lmao

>>3954175
>Are you all masochists?
I played odyssey mod which was 230 hours long(in game time). I have problems I'll admit to that.

Do the Archolos (am I the only one who keeps seeing Arschloch?) achievements work in Steam's offline mode?

>>3954510
>Poles create well balanced, easily enjoyable 80 hour archolos
>Germans create the 250 hour monster that is odysee
They were like "we will create absolute mountains of content, but if you're not hardcore like us you don't deserve to enjoy it".

Why is there no gay sex going on in the prisoner colony in Gothic?

>>3957304
The Gothic 2 "movie" features the farmers engaging in anal sex. Unironically. On Youtube.

>>3957304
Noone who likes gothic wants to see that. And I hope the remake doesn't have it either.
But I guess, realistically speaking, there would be some prison gay prostitutes.

>>3958546
>Noone who likes gothic wants to see that
The absolute irony & blindness
>>3957726
>The Gothic 2 "movie" features the farmers engaging in anal sex

>>3937506
yeah, the polish dub is such high quality that it really added a lot to the game for me despite not understanding a lick of polish
I tried to play it way back without any dub and just the dialogue text and it felt really off

>>3957726
I forgot that it was a German fan movie, so it was actually quite hard to find among the fake movies (longplays) and AI slop that clogs up the search results nowadays.

Timestamped link here:
https://youtu.be/TNtxScmuO70?si=x8VQNcY1X0sINhMP&t=4460

>>3963412
The fuck.
Legend of ahssun has the brothel owner perform oral sex on the hero if you ask for the "special treatment". You don't get to cancel it either.

do i need any essential mods to enjoy gothic 1 and 2 fully

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>>3964421
>G1
Union patch to run the damn thing, quick loot might save you some minutes if you're kleptomaniac
>G2
Bonus Independent training (needs mod called toolkit on workshop and union patch)

>>3953188
you don't happen to have a place one can visit for this?

god i hate the fact that the german VA for xardas had his anti ai luddite tier meltie and ruined a good thing.

>Hans Abdul MuhaMAD
all of these a.i translation tools suck ass
are poolaks and germs really that retarded and can't even look up basic shit like existing item names in ENG version?
last mod I tried was polish mod with machine translation that somehow translated mushrooms to "soft puppies"

>>3964498
>Bonus Independent training
didn't beat the game btw

>>3964553
Translate it yourself you little shit.

>>3964514
Try discord or reddit lol. World of gothic will probably ban such discussions.
Or maybe if you ask for long enough on 4chan someone will do it. I think I have it saved somewhere but I can't be arsed to upload it.

>>3964553
>I hate you and you are muslim
>Now do unpaid work for me
This is why noone likes americans.

>>3964796
anon, nobody in the US knows about this game's existence, marketing over there was a colossal failure
>>3964764
scrub those toilets harder Raczek

I just realized that Gothic is like the only semi-popular RPG where you actually need to get armor fitted to you and where armor makes a significant enough difference (although it doesn't seem like it by the numbers)

New version of the nostalgic edition is out btw.

>>3966337
anything new?
recently tried https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3430539140 , it is similar
so far:
The Good
>Khorinis Island received new pathways for easier traversal
>you can go to valley of the mines via new pathway in CH1 (it's not far from 2 paladin chucklefucks guarding flimsy wooden door, near snorting beast)
>Valley of the Mines looks far more recognizeable, old camp has some structures preserved with damage, swamp camp has mostly sunk into the swamp, New Camp's dam broke
>Dragons have found new nests(Stone Dragon is at druid monastery from Gothic 1, Fore Dragon is at old troll canyon, Swamp Dragon is at swamp camp temple, Frost Dragon at New Camp mine)
>Jharkendar is gone, items from there and beasts exist in the old world in one form or another
>balance is less autistic, STR/DEX cost never increases beyond 1LP/1stat, weapons still follow old formula
The bad
>some of the quests do not work(in my case Tavern Contest failed no matter what I tried), I couldn't not get into monastery with innos statue, merc path also glitched out
>for some ungodly reason modder switched places of Thorben and Bosper's shop, also put merchants and Abuyin in one place
>Old Camp has old coin chest like in G1, you can abuse this with Wasili at Onar's Farm for infinite XP and money

>>3966447
Quality of life improvements especially for the companions, water mage option, more spells, various small additions.
https://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/1618176-RELEASE-Gothic-II-Nostalgic-Edition-v3-2-0/page38
The mod is comparable to l'hiver in extra content but doesn't change the map.

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>>3967050
Roland is that you?

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>>3967115
wish it's wasn't me
I am convinced that Odyssee was just continuation of psychological torture project designed by German government during WW2
it managed to fall for quite a few pitfalls that mods usually manage to avoid
>Exposition dump right the start, first it is your MC whining about life for solid 5 minutes
>then it is your "roommate" acting retarded for about 3
>followed by Captain of the Guard chewing your ass out for solid 10 minutes
>if by some miracle you survived that, there is even more exposition dump from an old man Wenceslas (Journal says Wenzel) for another 15 minutes
>difficulty? closed space with enemy spam
>that quest you just completed at the other side of the island? Yeah go back there lol
>Roland and others acting like it is the most obvious thing where the fucking Klaus (not Schwab) is while none of the NPCs or Journal entries tell you

>>3967126
Sounds like you've only been through chapter 1. Things get worse, so much worse it is beyond your imagination.

>>3967050
>100 gold for liesel (betsy)
>50 gold for nadja
Hmmm...

>>3967130
yeah I am still on the first island
can you actually travel back and forth between different landmasses or is always moving forward with the story?

>>3967157
>can you actually travel back and forth between different landmasses or is always moving forward with the story?
This depends, it's different in every chapter but sooner or later you can return to pretty much anywhere. I think there's only one or two exceptions but it should be obvious when that happens.

>>3967030
>Want to download for the weekend
>Forum down
Kurwa.

>>3967579
try grabbing it off the steam workshop with https://steamworkshopdownloader.io/ or something
though personally i'll be waiting for the thread on themodders to update

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>>3967728
English are so dymb axaxa

Gothic 3 is fun.

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feels rather nice returning back to Khorinis after moving between random islands

>>3970848
That's obviously modded. There are no such hats in Gothic

Jorgenson just let slip that the head of the german vocalization project for archolos disappeared months ago. Others have taken over, but not all the data is available and progress has been lost. There's also some problem with ambient dialogue and speakers may have to be reassigned. So, bad news all around.

>>3970848
Keep posting odysee anon. Disregarding the... special gameplay, it's quite interesting.

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I didn't expect to see this guy
he was that injured Orc in the New Camp Mine

>>3970848
>>3971058
>>3971090
>>3971108
How is this (gothic with Russian operation Z orcs) related to the mythical Greek Odyssey? I don't remember Odysseus shooting orcs with crossbows.

>>3971139
Odysee (don't ask me for the correct spelling, I don't know) is a massive german mod where you're a royal soldier/sailor/paladin/hero who, among other things, travels to occupied khorinis and liberates it. It is massive, tedious and winding, so the name fits quite well.
Now why someone would mod orcs into pejoratives for russians, I really don't know.

>>3970848
>the crossbow deals damage
What kind of baby mode difficulty is that?

>>3971148
Not to mention those MMRPG damage number things. Disgusting. Antithetical to everything gothic.

I sense butthurt

>>3971148
these are not prejoratives for russians. no need to get offended on our behalf.

>>3971278
True, it's pejoratives for russian nationalists, may they all die in a ukrainian ditch. I'm not offended on their behalf. I just find it absurd and frankly cringey.

>>3971148
>Now why someone would mod orcs into pejoratives for russians, I really don't know.
Orcs are used in combination with another pejorative for Russia as a whole - Mordor. Russian military is called "Orcs" for their disregard of their own and lack of basic morals they display when caught on camera. This was popularised after infamous Prigozhin's cannon fodder offensives.

>>3971777
Orc at least is only racist against russians. Vatnig and Zigger are 4chan speak, where comparing someone to a black man is basically the worst conceivable insult.

>>3971777
>Mordor
That's industrialized England/Germany.

>>3972393
Mordor appears to take inspiration from WW1 battlefields. Which ironically russia has brought to ukraine now.

im about to play Gothic 1 for the first time ever
i decided to go with the unreal engine version instead of patching it million times with the plugin shit
anything i need to know?

>>3972616
>i decided to go with the unreal engine version
I had no clue this exists until now
is that the remake?

>>3972638
nah its the old gothic 1 just done in unreal engine
it looks pretty good and i heard good things about it + I was lazy to go through the whole plugin process
the only downside it apparently has is its not 1:1 to the old gothic 1 because it changes crit blows or something?

>>3972657
I don't understand how you could be too lazy to install Union (or the GOG version of the game, which comes with Union already installed) but managed to find and get running an unreal engine conversion.

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>>3972832
NTA but union and plugins feel more like cheats to me than mods or "qol".

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>>3973008
they are, e.g. quick loot just lets you steal shit and run away because there's no looting animation, but jesus fuck playing the game without it, it's glorious when you need those 50 herbs on the ground.

>>3973008
Lobart, I am not clicking 15+ on those turnips

Having sex... with Lobart's wife... behind his back... her turnips... all mine

I recently replayed all 3 gothics, with comm patches and all.

G1
Legitimately has too much slow walking, is otherwise quite an easy game once you know what you're doing. Also use the animation hack to turn off pickup animations.

G2 NOTR
I beat it twice but I couldn't deviate to anything other than master sword to raven claw str stacking because everything else felt like bad damage. Also has too much walking. Also turn off the animations for pickups.

G3
Is actually much more pleasant to play if you're past G1 G2 first/second impressions. It's clearly not very well finished and much unlike G3 but it's very comfortable to play and the comm patch has many features to make it very convenient. If I had to play gothic again I'd pick 3, first two are very linear in terms of optimal play. But I also feel like anything other than magic is unplayable in G3, maybe str maxing and spin to win would work.

>>3973788
Get a sprint mod for g1/g2 if that's your biggest gripe.

>>3973788
>Legitimately has too much slow walking
Spamming acrobatics about as fast as using the sprint potion
>anything other than master sword
Bows are legitimately amazing in NOTR
>maybe str maxing and spin to win would work
correct, it's the only reasonable alternative

>>3973807
>Get a sprint mod for g1/g2 if that's your biggest gripe.
It's not really about me, it's the game. It's slow - it's noticeable. That's just it.

>>3973814
>Spamming acrobatics about as fast as using the sprint potion
G3 did it right, acrobatics just reduces fall damage which is legitimately useful in G3, other than that teleports everywhere. I know acro spam and speed potions but the early game is the problem - it's the largest chunk of the game and devoid of all these options.

>>3973814
>Bows are legitimately amazing in NOTR
Do they not murder in duels? Are there no enemies immune to arrows? And how do you avoid being damaged?

>>3973823
as a DEX faggot in G2 you can just finish off opponents in in melee or hell even use melee itself
Mastersword (can be bought from Martin in Harbor or looted from thieves guild) gives +10 one handed skill, Betty (better dex sword from swamp bandit camp) gives +8 one handed skill with better damage
so that's 20 or 18 one handed skill
with all tablets for one handed (+24 one handed skill) so that's 44 or 42 one handed skill
Morgan's ring boosts another 10% one handed skill (now we are at 54 or 52)
if you arrive at Khorinis Barracks around 5 AM you can get free training for +2 one handed skill for free (now 56 or 54)
so you can spend an extra 4 or 6 LPs at the start and have 60 one handed skill with fastedt animation and okay chance to score full hit
I'd say that is pretty generous for bow user to have a way to deal with melee duels

>>3973823
>Do they not murder in duels?
Yeah but how many duels are there, alrik and mercenaries and? If you can pick up rapier or master sword it's enough even with zero skill.

>>3973826
>>3973882

OK but what is the benefit of even doing bows? With melee you can win any difficult fight 1v1 because you have the most defence options, are there many cheese spots that make bows worth it for?

>>3973933
>OK but what is the benefit of even doing bows?
Bows don't have the non-hit/crit nonsense, you either miss doing 0 damage or hit doing 100% damage nothing in between.
Bows also have decent range you can kill most enemies before they can even get to you without cheese spots. And obviously cheese spots exist, the obvious one is the battering ram near the castle in VoM.
Bows cannot be parried dodged or blocked.
Bows can go over 100% skill since skill determines range and not crit chance, not really worth it but you can go up to 120%.
You can get more dex than str in NOTR, there's a limited amount of dragon roots but if you kill paladins in the city they have about 10% chance of dropping a goblin berry. It's possible to use all 25 king sorrels on dex potions.
The weakness of a bow is that it's kind of all or nothing weapon, you either have the stats or you don't but it's not hard to get enough stats. Trolls are immune to bow attacks but that's barely a problem.
Everything said applies to crossbows too, in Archolos crossbows are godlike since they also come with armor piercing on top of superior damage.

>>3973933
that's like asking what is even point of a weapon when you just cast firestorm while on drugs/under speed potion effect
fun
anyways I recommend giving this mod a try https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2786958841

At one point in this thread I asked whether I should play Anachronolos even though I'm not Polish and everyone said "yes it's kurwa dobrze". I still haven't started, instead I feel like replaying Gothic and Gothic 2, mmmhmmm, yessir. My memberberries.

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>>3972832
>find and get running an unreal engine conversion.
you just select it on steam

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>>3974114
why aren't you learning Polish

>>3974152
Impressive, it's even more janky than the original.
Also, isn't the steam "default public version" already patched? How is that harder to play compared to the unreal crappy version?

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>>3974114
Play it, it's good.

>>3973958
OK thanks, I may try it if I ever play it again.

>>3973967
I think it's valid to ask and I got a valid answer!

>>3974157
damn, no wonder no woman wanted to have sex with him

>>3974275
>A literal free fan project to import a 2001 game into unreal engine
>What do you mean it's janky

But what did Gothic do for the heckin #CancerFighters charity stream? The greatest charity stream of all time?? All Polish celebrities donated!

>>3974533
Does anyone honestly think it'll go to charity? Maybe 1% if I'm being generous, rest will be redistributed between organizers, stolen, missing and so on.

>>3974675
>redistributed between organizers, stolen, missing
You really didn't need to write "stolen" 3 times in a row.

so uh how is Golden Gate 1 compared to Golden Gate 2?
finished recently GG2 it was pretty solid (not quite Archolos but still enjoyable)
also any big overhaul mods for G1? I remember one years ago where Y'berion could be saved you have an option to become Guru rather than Templar but that was wildly biggy and unfinished

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REMAKE releases in one month, probably the only pre-order so far, I'm buying it almost exclusively for the music composer returning to his OG masterpiece when he was 18
tho I'm also intersted in the cut content

>>3980971
Probably gonna buy it, not sure how much I will play it. I don't trust their combat system and that's a really major part of gothic. I don't trust them to get the atmosphere right either, I think they would be better served making a gothic2 remake in that regard (which, if the remake sells, they probably will).

>>3981224
there's lots of gameplay on youtube now. combat seems okay-ish now? atmosphere is peak.
for some reason, the german VA of the nameless hero really sucks, even though it's the same guy from the original. i'd chalk that up to bad direction though.

>>3981666
He's 60 and plays a guy who the fans concluded to be 27.

>>3981707
but that's not it though.
he yells half the time when in the original he was pretty chill. the way he asks questions makes him sound like he's a little... slow in the head. in the original the hero asked questions like statements (in terms of intonation and pitch).
it's not the color of his voice which has obviously changed. it's direction,

Eyo Mortismal Gaming said the remake is a slappin' banger he just doesn't want easy diff to be in the game, ong maybe we finna should try this game!?

>>3983203
If there were milquetoast opinions awards that guy would be number fucking one.

https://youtu.be/_NDirFa1ZsI?si=uOAIJLHzMEvZihag