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>in order to hunt down the BBEG you have to go to a planet where evil megarcorporation researches almost extinct ancient mind controlling aliens, a planet where evil megarcorporation researches mind controlling alien, find a mind controlling alien expert on extinct ancient mind controlling aliens and then a planet where you learn that the true BBEG is in fact an ancient mind controlling alien who killed said extinct ancient mind controlling aliens
How the FUCK did they get away with this?
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Yes the species that survive the extinction cycles develop mind control telepathy its like you only paid attention enough to be a cinema sins rip off
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Get away with what...? A good story?
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>>3938636
Been replaying ME1 the last few days and yeah, I was thinking about that on Feros. It kind of felt like they came up with several iterations of this "ancient mind controlling species" plot device and then just said, fuck it, add them all in. Still really enjoy the trilogy despite its flaws. ME3 is still a total shitshow thoughbeit
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>>3939407
>ME3 is still a total shitshow thoughbeit
The seeds of ME3's narrative failures were sown way back in ME2. Of course, the fault lies squarely on Mac Walters and Casey Hudson, but so does most of the good that came out of those two games. Gameplay of ME3 was also by far the best in the series, even though it admittedly buried the corpse of ME1's less-then-enjoyable but lore-backed combat system which ME2 had killed previously (thermal clips anyone).
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>>3939545
>The seeds of ME3's narrative failures were sown way back in ME2
I see people say this a lot but I'm curious in what way. I personally love ME2, and find the story to be interesting and the missions to be some of the most fun in the series. It's only real flaw is that it fails to provide enough narrative support as the second part of an overarching narrative trilogy, and I think it only feels like it fails to provide that level of support because of how rushed and poorly written ME3 was. I think if the series had been designed as a tetralogy instead, ME2 as is would be a lot less divisive. Even still, I can think of plenty of ways they could have written ME3 to better handle Cerberus and the looming return of the Reapers.
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>>3939545
Their original black matter plot woupd have clapped. I think ea just wanted them to make wodern warfare
>>3941338
There wqs nothing they could have done. Thry wasted the entire second game and they wanted it to be popupar with enwcomers. Where was no way to turn this set of limiations into a good story. Robots bad mmkay

Given the number of retards that still like it i think they succeeded. Only the diehard fans complained
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The worst part of the snow planet is the section with the edgy IA agent. Always skip her dialogue she has nothing worth hearing
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>>3941338
it wasted too much time on non-important shit, it set the story back by having everyone not believe shepherd about the reapers again, and left me3 with even more plot beats, like cerberus, to resolve, instead of fewer. the catalyst could have been what you discovered in me2. or the dark matter shit. or the organics are making machines which are killing the organics so we kill the organics first shit. or the galactic preparedness stuff could be in me2 it also made the whole thing seem pointless and retarded by having the reapers show up in a few months anyway, so why do you even need the collectors to collect humans if they're going to have access to billions of humans in a few months.
me2 did a GREAT job of making the world feel more lived-in and had decent stories for the characters which involved the genophage and the geth and quarians but it completely shat the bed on the reaper plot.
yes i agree if you had another mass effect game to do what me2 should have done, it would have probably been better, but that never happened.
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>>3938636
Thinking of replaying it again...
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>>3942013
I'd say go for it. Personally, I think it's worth waiting just a bit longer for certain ME3 overhaul mods to be finalized, but if you plan on doing a vanilla playthrough, nothing's stopping you (except remembering how shitty the ending of ME3 is).
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>>3942013
I'm in the middle of a playthrough. Just finished ME1 last night and onto ME2 now. I always forget how brutal the adjustment to Insanity is between ME1 and 2, especially for a Vanguard
>>3942030
Based spreadsheet autist. I've always wanted to do stuff like this for my characters.
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>>3942030
>worth waiting just a bit longer for certain ME3 overhaul mods to be finalized
What mods?
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>>3942458
>I've always wanted to do stuff like this for my characters
It's not to late to do so, provided you're still on your first trilogy playthrough. I decided on making the spreadsheet prior to replaying the series so I could avoid doing the missions in the same order or making same sets of choices across playthroughs. It's also a nice visual reminder for me in case I want to discuss the game with someone on 4chins, like yourself.

>>3942464
>What mods?
The Take Earth Back which was announced on 2025 N7 day, for one:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5UPpfFy6Xw
The likes of LE3 Diversification Project, LE3 Expanded Galaxy Mod, LE3 Community Patches might get some updates as well in the meanwhile. Various mods that restore cut content are being made, as well as some that add ME evades, melee attacks or powers to SP. There's really no way of knowing if some awesome mod for any of the ME games will be released just as you are going through your playthrough.
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>>3942030
wtf was jian's problem?
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>>3942030
>all characters picked Destroy (Survive)
based
>>3943218
Commander Chud Shepard
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>>3943218
>wtf was jian's problem?
Being an opportunistic dick with good PR. I wanted to subvert expectations on the expected Paragon Spacer War Hero playthrough, where the formative event in Jian's life which earned him the Star of Terra was mostly him saving his own skin (in my headcanon, he was way in the back, using his sniper rifle, drones and teammates to keep the breaching party at bay), which coincided with him saving the colony. As a capable, calculated and slightly egotistical Navy brat with an impeccable service record and a streak of anthropocentrism, he's using his status as a war hero and a Spectre to his fullest, making sure humanity will come out at the top when the dust settles. Of course, sometimes he makes a bad call due to his overconfidence, but not a lot of people get to survive after seeing him stumble.

>>3943244
It felt redundant to write it down six times since I was using a MEHEM mod which defaults to that outcome (if the War assets are high enough at least), but I would've picked it in the vanilla game anyways. We either destroy them, or they destroy us, as Anderson put it.
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>played through Kasumi's loyalty mission three times in a row and repaired my install + reinstalled my texture overhauls because it kept getting stuck after finishing the mission
>turns out it's a known issue with a fix
I used to really like this mission but I think I'm scarred for life at this point.
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>>3942030
Which character was your favorite to play through the series as?
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>>3945795
Gameplay-wise, it's gotta be the Vanguard, followed closely by Sentinel and Infiltrator. Playing Vanguard in ME2 is a bit dicey ngl, but still quite enjoyable. ME3's Vanguard is fantastic by itself, but paired with Reegar carbine + Incendiary ammo with Explosive evolution you're essentially playing an "omae wa mou shindeiru" type of character that can teleport to and melt through all but the toughest enemies in less than 2 seconds.

For purposes of roleplay, it's kinda hard to choose because I love them all for various reasons: Solider is my "canon" playthrough, Infiltrator is playing a bad bitch that always made the pragmatic choice, Vanguard is playing a bad mf that did some fucked up stuff but still came through straight, Engineer is a proper dick playthrough which I'd already described and Sentinel is the "goody-two-shoes / everyone-lived-happily-ever-after" kind of playthrough.

Finally, the Adept is the sufferkino playthrough, and the more I think about it, the more I feel it is my favorite one. Juhi (Sanskrit for jasmine flower, a symbol of purity) is a biotically-gifted colony kid who lived through a slaver raid and Thresher Maw attack, whereas her family and her squadmates did not. Even though she always tries to make the best choice, she doesn't have the "talk-no-jutsu" reserved for the more idealistic playthroughs, so things don't go according to plan and people sometimes die. She couldn't stop Toombs from killing himself, she allowed Cerberus to interrogate Veetor which likely messed him up permanently, she told Sanders that the Grissom students are ready for frontline, condemning them all to early deaths, and she helplessly watched as TIM gunned down her mentor and father figure in front of her. She lost Kaidan on Virmire and eventually found comfort in Garrus' embrace (despite being slightly xenophobic) because he's someone who understands what loss feels like. But she survived it all in the end because that's what she is - a survivor.
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>>3942030
Sentinel me 2 seems easy mode
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>>3942030
Planet order influences what
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>>3945981
Not as easy mode as Sentinel in ME3 is with proper upgrades
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZof1SOK8yk

>>3945982
>Planet order influences what
If you're talking about ME1, nothing really, though there are some outcomes that you will not be able to achieve if your paragon/renegade skills are too low (e.g. saving Jeong on Zhu's Hope). I mostly did it to avoid repeating the same planet order every time. I continued doing so in ME2 and ME3 for the same reason.
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>>3945986
Wtf, completely immune, lol
My next playthrough 1-3 is soldier fem paragon. Kiss my geth sniper. How do I load up fast in me1? Thought of doing all side quests directly after citadel first and then clean up story. Want cool gear. In me2 I'm looking forward to geth sniper.
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>>3945986
Alright, got it. How come squad in me2 is stuck at 240 health, while shep nears 400? Krogan is an exception.
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>>3945988
>soldier fem paragon. Kiss my geth sniper
I mean, if you're planning on using the Widow, why not just play Infiltrator?
>Thought of doing all side quests directly after citadel first and then clean up story
Some side quests rely on you completing a main quest, e.g. you don't get a distress call to save Exogeni scientists unless you finish Feros. My personal mission order was like this:
Do Citadel side quests > Fully explore the clusters directly on the path to the main quest > Fully explore the cluster where the main quest is > Do the main quest > Return to Citadel > Repeat the loop until you finish everything but Virmire > Clean up the rest of the clusters > Do Virmire > Return to and then escape the Citadel > Go straight to Ilos.

>>3945990
>How come squad in me2 is stuck at 240 health, while shep nears 400?
I dunno. Maybe because most enemies target you so the squadmates don't need to have that much HP, or they are intentionally weakened on higher difficulties.
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>>3946002
Infiltrator is like tech + fighter, right? Just a physically weak version of it. Like thane.
>my personal...
Yeah, idc, it's perfect. Will do that. Logically sound and easy to remember.
>squad
Nta but I thought it's that shepard shines more maybe? Or Bioware sucks at coding and let's all enemies focus on shepard simultaneously. Telepathic enemies suck.
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>>3946013
>Infiltrator is like tech + fighter, right? Just a physically weak version of it. Like thane.
In ME1 you can think of them as that. ME2 introduced the Tactical Cloak, which is a very good and versatile power. You can use it to escape trouble and reposition yourself, or to get really close to an enemy. Also, shooting a gun under the effects of the Cloak boosts the damage of the shot, so you can use it on a high-damage weapon (sniper rifle or a shotgun) to one-shot most things, at least in ME2 (ME3 introduces shield gating, which doesn't allow you to one-shot enemies with armor, shields or barriers on higher difficulties):
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzfvhyIOZVg
You can also exploit the broken Tactical Cloak + Marksman combo in ME3 with a rapid-firing weapon with armor penetration like Blood Pack Punisher to melt through most enemies:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJnpO_uNCqk
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>>3946019
Only beat it on hardcore, how much worse s insanity? Ng+ should be fine? I needed like 15 minutes against saren and only won because he stopped moving for 2 minutes straight and the team emptied their clips multiple times over, despite being like level 27 or so. Pretty near maxed out everything. His rockets always one shot. Honestly, while I made it in hardcore, enemies are a bit too strong and spingey
I don't feel like a hero and much less does leveling up feel useful in a level scaling system.
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>>3938636
and after all that indctrination theory still wasnt real
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>>3946055
This game's idiotic. I'm at the mission where you fight three mecha to save some random crates. Why do your team mates take cover, when all three mecha target shepard? They could unload non stop, but they choose to spend 98% of their time in cover, thinking, pondering.
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>>3946055
>Only beat it on hardcore, how much worse s insanity?
I wouldn't know cause I played ME1-3 only on Insanity and I've never played NG+, but Saren is likely a bullet sponge on pretty much every difficulty AFAIK. ME2's Insanity is also pretty tricky for biotics cause trash mobs (like Husks) get Barriers (this might also be true for Hardcore), and there are the two Collector missions that will annoy you for sure, so archive the links to these vids just in case:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfC6S_JgMug
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RGWMGVjPSI
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0TohKt_yZs
Finally, ME3's Insanity is barely noticeable cause you can get so overpowered with the right weapon and power setup.

>>3946084
>This game's idiotic
Eh, you stop stressing about the mission when you figure out that saving every crate will net you barely a couple of thousand credits more then if you had saved half of them.
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>>3946095
Just looked it up. The only game where the difference isn't negligible is me2. The main difference is that insanity pigeonholes you further in team and equipment settings. I realized this unfortunately not as soon as possible. Fighting geth is easy if you bring tali and let's say garrus.
For some reason the phoenix handgun is stronger than the viper sniper against armor of mechs.
Thx for the links, will replay the ng+ on insanity. Ng+ in me2 is more difficult than import me1 saves, as you loose the boni from import.
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>>3945976
The Gods and I noticed you are based, N7 material even. Ever want to become the apprentice to the fastest S.O.B. on this half of your fucking Universe? If you can conquer the challenge of of tracking any of my current addresses down without me doxing my own wanted butt on 4chan, you'll have the best job you can imagine kid

>>3945795
The biotic Commander Pikachu Shepard was a pretty fun run, not sure if favorite run. Or the biotic Commander Fucking Shepard? Perhaps both top 5 most favored? Remember it doesn't even matter whether you win or lose man, the important thing is we have fun
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>>3946712
Riddle me this. Anderson was a failed spectre candidate and shepard was the first one. Suddenly, there are plenty of n7 armor available for shepard in various editions. Even the guns are ergonomically sound for humans. Huh!
Finished me2 yesterday, nearly 100%. Was me3 done by a different team? Also what have they done to much boy S. Shepard? Doesn't look like a black pit pull anymore. He looks civil. Miss his scars so much.
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>>3947010
>Suddenly, there are plenty of n7 armor available for shepard in various editions
I reckon that the N7 is subsequently engraved or printed on the armor. The actual reason is almost certainly that the devs saw that audience liked the N7-branded Onyx armor in ME1 and related it to Shepard, so they continued using that design where it realistically wouldn't make much sense, like with armor and weapons.
>Miss his scars so much
You can reacquire the ME2-type scars if you do a mostly renegade playthrough.
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>>3947110
>You can reacquire the ME2-type scars if you do a mostly renegade playthrough.
I kniw
>picrel
Awesome
Playing a black sentinel. Almost pure renegade. His face looks better in 2.
>scars
Shame no dev else ever utilised it. Being basically semi terminator looks intimating. Even bigger shame no one mentions how bad you look as renegade. Your enemies should react to it.
>exodus trailer just out
100% me clone, lol

All in all me trilogy is good, but dlcs were a mistake, they shouldn't have hide important stuff behind pay walls and lure buys with op weapons. Beware, it's Bioware.
Aside form the dlcs and the ending, the trilogy is solid. Even 10 years later it holds up and few games that came after me can realistically survive a comparison.
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>>3947152
>>exodus trailer just out
i was very impressed with the first couple of trailers and excited for the game because i really like peter f hamilton's books (guy who they got to create the world), but the second to last trailer they dropped was a huge disappointment, it looked extremely trashy and low quality. this is the one i mean:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqQEMxcLU1k

gameplay being an ME clone could be good or bad, i'm fine with it, but right now my excitement is non-existent. might just end up reading the accompanying novels and then read the game's plot on wikipedia if they end at a cliffhanger
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>>3947449
Yup, it's bad. I'll tell you how it is. If this goes on sale for like a fiver, I'll buy. Other than that, I doubt I'll even read the plot. Why do devs be gay? Make a space game with criminals, politics and spacefaring. Grounded story not you are the clone of the friend of the guy who was cuckolded by his daughter wife, you now have to save spacetime, this evening!!!
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>>3939407
Me trilogy is full of repetition. It's not only in lore and writing, but also designs. Geth, krogan and turian all have a tube around their head or eye
Not a bad thing, so the game world feels complete.
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Good, you opened this spoiler. There isn't anything important here actually. I was just looking for a ME thread and since I believe there is no ME general anymore I'll ask here. I want to replay the trilogy but with LE. I know the lighting is fucked and there are mods for it. Are there any other mods I should consider downloading or will that be enough if I want to replay it mostly vanilla?
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Has anyone done a looser shepard run? Like half the squad dies in me2 and basically activate all fail safes possible? How do I kill the squad in me2? Can you die in me3 in the ending, like in a bad way, like in me2? I remember when they promised a fail safe shepard, that would've been awesome, even if it's Ashley or kaidan or guy x that somehow is strong.
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>>3947449
>might just end up reading the accompanying novels
The first part was an enjoyable read, at least for me. I mostly read nonfiction books nowadays and I haven't read anything from Hamilton before, so I'm certainly no authority on its quality. From what other, more literary-inclined people wrote online, it's standard Hamilton fare with solid worldbuilding, interesting concepts, unexpected twists but somewhat bland characters (with some notable standouts). The last few chapters were too much "all according to keikaku" for my tastes but I'd be lying if I didn't say that I'm looking forward to seeing how the story concludes.

>>3947660
>Are there any other mods I should consider downloading or will that be enough if I want to replay it mostly vanilla?
If you're looking for mostly vanilla experience, I'd go with these:
>ME1
LE1 Community Patch - bug fixes ect
Saren stages - cosmetic mod that introduces early forms of Saren before his heavy Geth implants
>ME2
LE2 Patch - also fixes minor bugs
Cerberus Ladies Wear Cerberus - returns Cerberus uniforms to female Normandy crewmembers + includes the option to give Kelly her hair from the original game
Oriana looks like Miranda's Twin - mod does what it's called
EGM Fix Weapons in Cutscenes - ditto
Femshep Helmet Clipping Fix and Death Mask Fix - ditto
>ME3
LE3 Community Framework and Patch - bug fixes and such
Restore 3-stage melee - Bioware being mega retards somehow managed to mess this up in LE so the mod returns the heavy melee animation
Dreams Remade - Really nice mod that just makes the dreams sequences more enjoyable and impactful
Ashley Consistency Project (MELE3) - Makes Ash look more like her ME1 self
Oriana looks like Miranda's Twin (ME3LE) - mod does what it's called
Samara's Daughters - makes Rila and Falere look like Samara

There are graphical overhaul mods for all three games, so slap them on as well.
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>>3947695
I'm planning on one, but other people on YT got you covered:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPtnwHQGGcQ
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>>3947722
Game's based on picrel?
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>>3947727
Right, my idea was few side content and we'll, just shep survives. Clearly he will wear this atrocious vest like in the vid. Ugly, but fitting. Unsure if clumsy girl (hottie) or idiot man shep without identity not charisma. Basically white Jacob.
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>>3947740
I'd be more precise to say that the book is based on the game, eve though both were being made at the same time by the same people.
That being said, the game is the primary media, the rest is supplemental material.
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>>3947744
Got it. Confused it with neuromancer.
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>>3947741
>Basically white Jacob
A fate worse than death
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>>3947761
>gravity is a mean mother
Like... Is crack common among Bioware personnel?
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Listening to the codex entries rn. Me has good lore. Never realized when I played it the first time. Why didn't Bioware made more of it? The botched me3 sales can't be the only reason? Cdpr just released physical arcade for cyberpunk, that's intelligent. Bioware should've done more, too. Board games, books, lost opportunity.
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>>3939545
I'm convinced that anyone shitting on thermal clips for messing with previously established setting material never even played the first game.
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>>3947951
Oh fuck off. Midway through the game you can have efficient enough heat sinks heat is a non issue. It's not really an issue from the start to begin with. It was changed to thermal clips because retarded xbawks cattle couldn't wrap their tiny brains around the concept of heat and overheating so they changed it to something normalfags are familiar with because the played nuCoD. Anyone who unironically prefers thermal clips over heat is a codnigger normalfag.
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Wait a minute. Me3: where does cerburus got a fleet and an army from? Sanctuary explanation is bs, fleets isn't explained at all and horizon doesn't have 300000 inhabitants that can fight or are grown up men.
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>>3948086
it doesn't matter. the writers for me2 and me3 didn't give a shit and just made retarded decisions that they thought would make for cool scenes or set piece battles
remember how in me2 the collectors had so many pods because they were going to "target earth", even though they had just one conventional non-reaper ship, and it would have definitely been blown the fuck out if it tried to attack earth. or maybe they were never going to target earth and your squaddies jump to the most retarded nonsensical conclusion based on nothing at all? it's all fucking retarded
80% of shit that happens after me1 is retarded. at least in me1 only 20% of shit was retarded.
https://youtu.be/c-nbJMyody4?si=SrbXOhAKqOn2amLq&t=581
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>>3948088
>cool scenes or set piece battles
Clearly. This is generally true in vidya, but very much so for me2/3. The games barely feel like sequels.
>collectors vs earth
Ye, one ship isn't that much. Likely weaker than sovereign.
>jump to conclusions
Come on, every time. It's ridiculous. If you know their answer for both outcomes, its true as well. Jack basically swears her way though me2.
>80% after me1 is retarded
Yeah, no way around it. Me1 is the best, at least story and atmosphere. Me2 feels like a spinoff and 3 like the multiplayer version of it with a campaign slapped onto it.
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>>3948117
>and 3 like the multiplayer version of it with a campaign slapped onto it
Ironically the horde shooter multiplayer was the best part of that gay game by far
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>>3947995
Criticizing it from a mechanics point of view is fine. You must have missed the part where I specifically said "for messing with previously established setting material."
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>>3948162
I didn't. Critcizing that retarded decision for breaking established lore is just as valid because there was no lore reason for them to switch to essentially magazines other than appealing to the xbawks codniggers to increase sales.
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>>3947951
>>3948162
well let's hear it then. what's the problem with criticizing it for messing with previous lore and what makes you think people who do it haven't played me1
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>>3948174
The most common criticism levied by retards was that thermal clips introduced a needless logistical burden that wasn't there in ME1 because ammo was practically infinite, but if you actually play the game you'd know there are multiple instances of characters referencing running out of ammo.
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>>3948178
>there are multiple instances of characters referencing running out of ammo
And how do thermal clips solve this issue?
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>>3948187
They solved a different problem.
Jesus Christ you're retarded.
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>>3948189
What different problem you meganigger? You literally can't fire your weapon if you run out of thermal clips while you can fire any ME1 gun after it cools down.
Also way to constantly move the goalpost like the nigger you are.
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Okay, done with that retard baiting for an argument.
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>>3948178
ha, you might be right, i seem to vaguely recall instances like that
still, my interpretation was that regular metal blocks of ammo gave you thousands of rounds or tens of thousands of rounds which can still be expended in a long enough fight if you didn't get resupplied, while thermal clips give you a few dozen shots, so it's still not the same.
doesn't matter anyway, this series completely shat itself, so it's pointless to get worked out about its lore, but by any chance do you remember when characters were running out of ammo in me1? was it something like soldiers stranded on a planet for months or was it regular dudes during a firefight cutscene?
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>>3948196
>worked out
worked up i mean
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>>3948195
>i cant form a coherent counterargument and cant fall back on another goal post movement so i will proclaim my victory by not replying any further
>>3948196
ME2 and 3 guns still use chunks of metal inside them as ammunition while using thermal clips on top of that. They are the worst of both worlds really. That retard doesn't know that hence why he's flip flopping between different points.
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When I lowered my expectations for 3 (I only played it about a year ago) I was able to enjoy it a lot.

A friend suggested two mods
>expanded galaxy
Adds a shitload of flavour in a way that doesn't feel like a mod; fills out a lot of the hollow feeling parts of the game/adds in bits and pieces to make it feel more complete. Reworks the Galactic War system so that you can read in-depth updates on developments based on your missions or what stage of the campaign you're at; it really makes it feel like the whole galaxy is at war.
>take earth back
Edits the final mission and segment to be more immserives. Factions or people you recruited actually show up; there are extra batches of soldiers fighting/guarding barricades etc depending who you managed to get on board. Other characters show up and things are slightly tweaked or moved around for it all to feel vanilla.

Those 2 mods make ME3 very enjoyable to me; the ending is the ending but the campaign was great fun. Expanded Galaxy in particular was fantastic; seeing updates on the computer and reading about certain fleets fighting/being destroyed and seeing the war assets go up or down much more regularly made it feel like what I did mattered, even if it didn't kekked
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>>3947110
Holy nigger
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>>3947660
>I was just looking for a ME thread and since I believe there is no ME general anymore
Lore Chad is a bit busy. Try again in Century 22 or 23 thanks
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>>3948288
Oh yeah I'm doing those as well. I just went to nexus and sorted by most endorsements and using most of that.
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>>3948420
Why exactly does a war hero pilot need a robot gf? Me3 has really weak writing
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Know I said I'd never play Andromeda under any circumstances ever, don't think I've ever said anything of such sort to anybody but I think I'm having second thoughts! Any of you fools dare me to play that lousy gay crap? Pirate her on my Sony PS4 Emulator on my illegally modified Sony PS3? Why? Why not? fyi some blackass crackhead chick Kadishyaa on Omega stole (smoked) my Sony PS4 so any option of borrowing Andromeda from local frens is off the table

>INB4 WUT ABOUT MUH ETHICS AND HONOR COMMANDER?
Fuck Sony and their ties to their national mafia. I'm doing a good deed for our Galaxy illegally installing my 100+ favorite PS1 games, 50+ favorite PS2 Games, 40+ favorite Sega games, 30+ SNES Games, 20+ favorite GBA games and 12 favorite NES games on my Sony PS3 because the Sony is the real fucking merc faction

>SIR WE DID LOYALTY MISSIONS FOR THE TENDIES! WTF?
Who cares? Can you pirate Andromeda on Wii U? No? THAN KISS MY SPECTRE ASS JOKER! Consider yourself fired faggot! You know what "License to Kill" means, right? Exit the ship next time we port or I'll smoke&space you to death. NOBODY wants nor need you anymore rookie, I already have a charming AI babe to pilot my ship, why the fuck would we still want you here? Get lost, Flight Lieutenant! NOW! Nintendo works for the Yakuza too Jeffrey Cumstain! I do our Galaxy fair favor pirating over 6,000,000 forms of Nintendo Games on my retro Wii U on Deck 1! Just know one thing, I'll romance MY ship after YOU'RE gone, cuckold! You're pretty lucky I let you breathe, Moreau. Go

>>3948839
>EDI?
>What might Joker see in EDI?
Are you in gay porn? Indoctrinated? I ask non-rhetorically. EDI is no ordinary sexbot, she's over 2 trillion times more advanced than the mighty Geth consensus! If ME3 had truly proper writing in a perfect timeline? EDI? Romancable? Over 99% of all recorded ME3 players would romance EDI with extreme preference above Tsoni, Yeomen Kelly, Allers, Lawson, Sub-Zero, Ashley, Samara, Morinth and Tali combined!
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On second thought I'll stick to my code. Fuck Bioware. Fuck Andromeda
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>>3942030
>Be me
>A colony kid
>Born on the Mindoir system
>My badass chudlord parents assigned me the name Chudette Shepard at birth on April 11th 2154
>Dedicate every second of my happy childhood to training the future of my Galaxy to learn the true nature of Heroism whilst simultaneously experiencing the highest levels of subversion exactly like the rebellious daughter I was born to be
>Batarian slaver-niggers fuckheads fuck my mom AND dad to death at age 16
>As I expected would occur. I considered myself utterly unsubverted on the darkest day of my whole lifespan
>Those predictable Batarian Bastards will never subvert my expectations
>Enlist in the System's Alliance
>Quickly thereafter recruited to the N7 Space Marines
>Become the first Human SPECTRE ever at age 28
>Carefully consider my future actions
>ok
>Given my name? The Way will assume I'll be a bad girl. A fucking Renegade SPECTRE
>Subvert (and save) my Galaxy's expectations
>By being a good girl. A fucking Paragon SPECTRE
Nice RP bro

>>3947010
>Suddenly, there are plenty of n7 armor available
Uh? It's called, looking good?

>Even the guns are ergonomically sound for humans
Captain Anderson directly addresses the issue in the 1st Book. Us bipeds are blessed with an unfair evolutionary advantage over the likes of the Kreepers, Hanars, Elcors etc, destined to dominate Galaxies. That's called simple science dude

>Was me3 done by a different team?
Such is the grim reality of our Planet

>Also what have they done to much boy S. Shepard? Doesn't look like a black pit pull anymore
Commander Shitdog? He was the youngest stinkiest N7 soldier ever, only 1 years old when he joined the N7 Training Program. Shepard loans his top recruit to Anderson offscreen shortly before ME1. After achieving SPECTRE status he forgot to team-up with him later because too busy saving The Way

>Miss his scars so much
Every soldier has scars! Sometimes scars "heal" but those with sharp eyes can still visualize them via our greensight
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>>3947010
>S. Shepard?
WHOA Whoa whoa WAIT! Ronald?? You're still alive!? Please PLEASE tell me it's you, Lieutenant Major! You good? What's your current situation and location now?

You're dead, aren't you? fuck. nevermind
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I'm gonna try this again in this thread but does anyone have the comic where Shepard takes a massive shit inside the Crucible and the Catalyst goes 'thats a big shit'
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>>3949068
She can't get pregnant, can she. Other than that metal>brittle bones. She's not even alive, unlike my friend legion.
>tali
I kinda killed her, lol. Her and 98% of her race.
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>>3949530
>n7 for human
Why would anyone make that if the first human spectre was just recently announced?
>ergonomically sound equipment
Weapons should either have versions for each race or smart adjustable tech in the lore. Pretty sure that would be doable today.
>>3949541
Someone's abusing ryncol and I like it.
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>>3949680
>abusing ryncol
>I like it.
Based me too man! I love abusing ryncol too and love how RPG video games like irl and ME2 let you consume as much ryncol as you wish with pretty much zero consequences!

Pisses me off that ME1 and ME3 don't let Commander Shepard abuse ryncol given sometimes I incorporate some of the finer elements of some of my funnier personalities into some of my RPs. Thus my Shepards usually catch a little R&R by drinking about 36 of the STRONGEST green drinks and 12 glasses of (uncut) Batarian ale and 12 glasses of ryncol whenever they happen to find themselves on the Citadel because this helps immerse me into the RP better. The fact that you can't do the same in ME1 and ME3 feels rather restrictive in that regard imo as if Bioware is literally trying to intentionally rape my RP hard af almost

Idk if you can drink ryncol in Andromeda as a I refuse to play that garbage, I once considered playing it for about 1 seconds than I remembered I'm too based to play such a sad fake gaylord shitty ME "video game"

>>3949676
>She can't get pregnant
To be fair we don't know if cyber-Shepard can father children with Humans or Asari sluts after ME1 given he's more-machine-than-man by the year 2185. A goddamn undead robotic copycat "clone". The Lore is pretty clear cyber-Shepard can still get his dick completely erect and experience emotions like love and romance and have sex etc. But the Lore never reveals whether the cyber-Shepard (or the cyber-Femshep for that matter) can breed or not! If I had to guess? No. They can't. They're robots so probably can not breed. Very very fucked up vile shit. Shit so atrocious it makes the fucking Genophage itself look like little more than a "slap on the wrist" mild Council sanction by comparison imo
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>>3947764
>"Aiight! I promised I'd answer yo questions! Whatchu need to know, nigga?"
>"The last thing I remember is the Normandy blowing up. Did anyone else make it?"
>"Yeah they good, Commander! Just about every nigga in yo crew survived! A few low rank service niggas be terminated! And Presley got smoked! But yo Quarian bitch and yo Asari bitch both be being aiight tho!"
>"Do you know what any of them are doing now?"
>"Nah nigga! It been 2 years!"
>"They were my team. If they knew I was alive, they'd come back"
>"Oh aiight maybe we can be trackin' yo niggas down nd sheit after we ditch this station!"
>"You said they spent 2 years rebuilding me? How bad were my injuries?"
>"I ain't no fuckin' doctor but I'd say you wuz lookin' BAD!! Like a bug that got bitch STOMPED hard af like 150 times in a row, dawg!!"
>"My God!"
>"Anywhere else they'd have put yo ass in a coffin! But yo I be sayin' son! Project Lazarus is different nigga! I talkin' like cuttin' edge technology and shieet!"
>"What do you mean? Cloning? Cybernetics?"
>"AYO I'm pretty sure you ain't no clone, niggah! Than again I'm just some 85 IQ biotic ghetto nigga who don't know shit about no science or none of dat st00pid white nigger crap! So idk, maybe you is a clone, my nigger!"
>"What can you tell me about Project Lazarus? Were there other test subjects?"
>"NAH! The Project only had ONE nigga! YOU! The whole point was to get you back in the game, player!"
>"What's your job here?"
>"Yo I be makin' BANK here Shep! Being dey loyal soldier boy! They payin' me mad creds to be shooting guns at niggas and doin' the Biotics and shiieet!"
>"Do you know anything about this attack? Who's behind it, what they're after?"
>"Nah and trust me nigga I DON'T GIVE A FUCK! I'm just tryna get my blackass off the station and fly out dis bitch at light speed! You know what I'm sayin' pimp?"
>"What's the quickest way to those shuttles?"
>"That depend where them mech niggas be thickest! YO follow me Shepard we gotta roll dawg!"
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>>3947761
>>3947741
>>3947764
The problem is the game can't quite seem to make up its damn mind if it wants Jacob to be black or be white. If it were up to me I'd have written him to be far blacker. I hope somebody uses AI soon to mod ME2 and ME3 so Jacob speaks in a very thick dialect of African American vernacular akin to the greentext I just posted about Project Lazarus. That would be a dangerously based mod! If it existed I'd install it ASAP and always take Jacob on every mission
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>>3950212
Why do they white boys want to keep our black kings on a leash in video games?
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>>3950325
Because unlike Cerberus, Bioware were actually the real racists all along. There is at least 1 mod that transitions ME3 Jacob into an Indoctrinated Chinese nigger (I.E. removes Kai Leng) which helps. Definetly less racist than Bioware but even that scenario presents plot problems like:
>Why would TIM say "Jacob. I'm surprised you let Shepard get the better of you" as if TIM suddenly forgot he spent 369 Billion Credits resurrecting Commander Shepard precisely because he can easily solo 3 Lieutenant Taylor clones in a 3v1 showdown using only 50% of his true power
>Why exactly would Jacob use a samurai sword? Because I'm pretty sure a real G uses a gun
>Shouldn't Japanese Jacob be BLACKING the brains out of Kasumi Goto? Why did the mod creators not include a sex scene(s) between the two? It's not as if Mass Effect Trilogy is a stranger to including sex scenes. Kasumi would need to go rogue and appear in the repeated boss fights alongside Jap Jacob in such a mod
>Doesn't Jacob hate Thane, Drell, assassins and etc? It'd make more sense if Jacob screams an appropriate expletive like "SUPER BANZAI BLAST ATTACK!!" with joy when he kills Thane Krios on the Citadel instead of sit there silently. He doesn't even like Thane enough to attend his funeral in vanilla ME3 after all
>Why don't Jacob's cybernetics include a Kamikaze feature? He could have easily self-destructed killing Shepard and squad via a suicide bombing strike during the battle in TIM's Office! In fairness though vanilla ME3 has the same lame plothole. Why didn't Kai Leng do that either? Maybe because Bioware is culturally insensitive?
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Are there any big mods coming out soon to postpone replaying the trilogy or should I just go for it?
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>>3950575
I'm using the new enhanced combat mod for me2 and having A BLAST
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>>3939407
ME3 is the best one. I've only played ME3 and have no regrets.
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>>3938636
I am replaying me1 rn
holy fucking SHIT femshep romances are bad
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>>3950575
Aside from Take Back Earth, not really. There's no real "mod limit" or specific "load orders" to the ME engine unlike the hard limits in bethesda games or soft limits in minecraft or cp2077, so you can dl everything you like in nexus to your heart's content as long as mods don't conflict. The ability to read EVERY mod's description and bug page is a non-negotiable must tho.
Unlike most games where you can add and remove mods to fine tune, ME mods MUST be hard baked into the game files permanently, and using the me3tweaksinstaller requires you install and lock in all content mods FIRST before any texture mods. Basically, if you fk up bc you forgot to add or remove a mod or it has bugs, you have to load a back up copy of all the game files and start all over (which the mod installer at least helps you with).
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>>3950766
True. Idk why but (unless you count Javik?) yes they only let Femshep romance women like Liara, Gayden, Chambers, Black Gayden, Shiara, Thane, Garrus, Diana, 3rd Gayden, Specialist Traynor and etc as if Bioware had some obsession with lesbianism during production. Because if Bioware actually wanted to market this game to women they'd allow Femsheps to romance men like Wrex, Jack, Grunt, Zaeed and etc. but whatever I guess they don't give a shit maybe
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>>3950035
I watched the Me5 trailer. 100% shepard clone.
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>>3950212
>"What can you tell me about Project Lazarus? Were there other test subjects
Citadel dlc me3 begs to differ
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>>3950221
He was white until they coloured him a token.
>far blacker
That would be good. Other than that Jacob is like pro military and salutes you and everything on the other hand he's
>hurrdurr I'm so anti authority
But I love cerburrus!
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>>3950461
>why samurai sword
Dude, that's blade.
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>>3951113
>ME5 Shepard
They might just make him a completely non-organic robotic synethic SPECTRE with a copy/pasted datafile of all Shepard's memories/personality. It'd carry the theme of each game introducing a "new Shepard" to the Lore

But if that is the case, why not just paste the Shepard.PKG file software 6,000,000 times into 6,000,000 individual bot hardware platforms?

>>3951117
No it doesn't. Cerberus may have created dozens of Shepard clones and the Shepard we play as in ME2 and ME3 might just be the only "successful" Shepard they managed to create. The only Shepard that retained his mind and wasn't outright fucking insane

Why does Miranda pretend like she didn't even know Shepard had an evil clone? A little suspicious on her end if you ask me, possible she didn't want to risk mind-breaking him when everybody was counting on him to stop the Rapers

>>3951120
>"YO SHEP MUH BOY I DO BE AGREEING WITH CERBERUS THEY ALWAYS BE DOIN THE HARD THANGS RIGHT, DAWG!"
>"BUT YO LISTEN UP, COMMANDER!"
>"CERBERUS ALSO BE DOIN A LOT OF GAY SHIT I ALWAYS BE FIRMLY DISAGREEING WITH TOO, DAWG!"
>"AYO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYIN' HERE, DAWG?"
>"CERBERUS BE LIKE DIS MASSIVELY COMPLEX MORAL CONUNDRUM WIT STRONG ARGUEMENTS FOR BOTH SIDES, NIGGAH! SHEEEEEIIIIIT!"
>"DAT WHY I KEEP TELLIN' YOU! I'M GLAD WE BROUGHT YOU BACK! YOU GOTTA TAKE OVER THE BIZ SO YOU CANS KEEPS THESE WACK NIGGERS IN LINE! AIIIGHT!?"

>>3951122
wait..... WHOA!!!!! Kai Leng is not even really The Last Space Samurai? He's just an NPD wannabe larper? lol how pathetic!
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>>3938636
her ass effect makes my mass erect
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>>3951167
>But if that is the case, why not just paste the Shepard.PKG file software 6,000,000 times into 6,000,000 individual bot hardware platforms?
Maybe there are different types of clones or 'borgs?
>real shepard
He was obviously dead. Idk if you can repair the brain in 200 years time. Maybe, chips are already a thing and functioning well enough. The vampire billionaire looks' young', too.
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>>3951480
>in 200 years time
Did somebody important confirm that Mass Effect 5 takes place in the year 2386 when I was sleeping?

>repair the brain in 200 years time
The Geth presumably already saved a datafile of Shepard's brain. Pic related. They'll possibly go with that route since they considered it in the past I.E. the early outline drafts of Mass Effect 2 originally involved the Geth resurrecting Shepard, not a Cerberus cell

Said route "conveniently" allows Bioware to continue thumbing their assholes desperately avoiding commenting on Star Child's Indoctrination attempts of Shepard at all costs as well Shepard's "Miraculous" survival in the Destroy ending given the Robotic Shepard would have zero memory files of those mysterious events. Cyber-Shepard retook Rannoch (and killed his clone too?) before traveling back to Sol to retake Earth
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>>3951803
600 years later like andromeda? FYI watched a minute or two of andromeda. It's ridiculously bad. How come?
>geth
Forgot about that and they should've let the geth play a role. TIM is shit anyway, latest starting me2.
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>>3951843
>Andromeda
>ridiculously bad
>How come?
Why does Andromeda suck? I'm not entirely sure how to articulate an answer because it just sucks okay? You might as well be asking me how split an atom to construct a nuclear bomb out of commonplace supplies one would find in the garage of a typical American household. I never played Andromeda and never will because I have a sharp sense for if a game will be based or cringe without even ever playing it

>TIM is shit anyway
He was based in ME2 in a mysterious "how did this chad get so good at mastery of Galactic espionage?" kind of way

Bioware dropped TIM's balls hard in ME3. His character ended up boiling down to little more than a blinded tool, an utterly Indoctrinated freak as a result from his attempts to fly too close to the sun
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>>3951908
>garbage
>typical American household
Heh
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>>3951908
>He was based in ME2
>>3951843
Latest starting me3*
Typo, obviously there's little to none of him in me1. I liked him. In me2 and he's basically someone else in me3. They shouldn't've used the pro human group as baddies. Stupid move.
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>>3951908
>He was based in ME2
>>3951843
Latest starting me3*
Typo, obviously there's little to none of him in me1. I liked him. In me2 and he's basically someone else in me3. They shouldn't've used the pro human group as baddies. Stupid move.
>me3
Idk, maybe it's really due to multiplayer being the priority. Actually decent cover shooter even after all these years.
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>>3951167
I can't get over how whatever that gay article of clothing is supposed to be just screams gay.
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>>3951843
>It's ridiculously bad. How come?
If you've watched a few minutes then by that point you must've noticed it was the writing if you were paying any attention
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>>3952617
>I can't get over how whatever that gay article of clothing is supposed to be just screams authentic immersion
ftfy

Think about it. The clothing we have equipped right now might come across as outrageously flamboyant if somebody from the year 1869 saw what we're wearing. That's the problem with attempting at writing a realistic SciFi setting, it's hard for anyone to predict how gay the world will become in about 150+ short years. If they actually wanted to write Mass Effect as practical as possible, Shepard and every other ingame character would constantly speak in a dialect that players from the early 21st Century interpret as barely-comprehensible and excessively-eccentric "gay meme lingo"
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>>3952748
Gay playing a big role as today is speculation. However a new lingo would be great. AFAIK expanse has it and pillars used it, too. The latter was critized for it. I hated it on the first playthrough, but kinda liked it on the second. Ac, what can I do? Some weird italo-Dutch expressions cobbled together.
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>>3952621
That's not everything. The ui is questionable and the character models and especially the faces and their animations remind me of clay. Somehow everyone is ugly, too. Especially the racoon asari, ewww.
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>>3952617
>picrel
Where the fuck did you get this picture of Shurik and Edik?!
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>>3952748
>The clothing we have equipped right now might come across as outrageously flamboyant if somebody from the year 1869 saw what we're wearing
Oh fuck off. None of the clothing, or armor for that matter, in the original trilogy looks that bad. This is the worst cope you could come up with for shitty designs. This is like saying the "strippers" in shartfield look good because their clothing is outlandish and looks stupid.
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>>3953052
>None of the clothing, or armor for that matter, in the original trilogy looks that bad
C'mon anon, the N7 overcoat (or however that's called) is incredibly tacky and "we'll be selling this at Bioware store provided we survive EA being bought off by Saudis"-coded but it's not bad bad. Now, Securitel Helmet, that's BAD.
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Is Emily Ortal schizo and Mass Effect threads schizo one and the same?
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>>3953067
Roughly half looks like shit. Mostly helmets. Rest is acceptable.
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>>3953067
The security helmet isn't even half as bad as that gay coat and you won't convince me otherwise. Also a retarded coat doesn't even make sense for a military unit.
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>>3953052
>None of the clothing, or armor for that matter, in the original trilogy looks that immersive or authentic in what is supposed to be an alien setting
ftfy

>>3953067
>Securitel Helmet
>BAD
In 150 years the Securitel Helmet will probably be the absolute peak of all possible fashion in the Galaxy. Not to mention +5% health AND +5% shields? For the small price of looking good? Based

>>3953085
Kind of. They share a body. Neither one is his host personality however
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>>3953232
>>None of the clothing, or armor for that matter, in the original trilogy looks that immersive or authentic in what is supposed to be an alien setting
>ftfy
Kill yourself. I was hoping you retards stayed in /v/ and /vg/.
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I like this song from the radio in 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_1pKkDIf0E
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>have fiancee pick up gaming a few years ago, never held a controller before and then play a lot of games together in increasing complexity in handling/camera control/mechanics etc

>december rolls around, free Hogwarts Legacy, she just jumps in, amazing tutorialisation, she loves the IP and the graphics.. first game she plays alone and with some of my combat help at bosses, finishes it

>at the end complains about the blank protagonist, bad narrative and unfulfilling character plots, and now has experience with actual combat and skill points, and questing and all of those modern gaming design features

MY TIME HAS ARRIVED

>talk to her and show her some trailers and concept art for some games and we end up with starting her on Mass Effect 1... absolute max hype

>starts out well as she makes her FemShep, she enjoys character creators and she liked how her Shepard ended up looking like, we choose Adept as a class as 'magic' sounds cool and also i was working off the bad memory that it was 'auto aiming' and needs little actual shooting (that's true only for ME2/ME3 as i later found out)

>"ok, let's play now"

>it's a fucking trainwreck

>the 'tutorial' first 20 minutes on New Eden is absolute hot trash, throws sixty bajilion prompts at her about a million mechanics. Some prompts just auto go away for some reason like a half a second? All while she's trying to learn to aim precisely for the first time in her life with a controller.

>she doesn't understand the difference between any of the four weapons (LE 'unlocks' all 4 weapons from the get-go), we have to pause and i have to explain both real life and game design logic in regards to how a 'sniper rifle' differs from an 'assault rifle' also we often interrrupt because i have to explain the overheat mechanic on weapons and why in the peak of combat with a zombie in her face she can't shoot
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>>3953665

>i realise i have to explain the dialogue wheel because it doesn't inherently make sense how it's laid out and it's never explained per se, also i have to excuse when Shepard says something quite off from what the four words say on the prompts

>also, fuck the frogger minigame, she's terrible at it, it's timed, and also she'd find out, and i'd remember, that absolutely everything in this game, even taking a shit, requires that fucking stupid minigame

>she slogs through New Eden dealing with "wait, what happened", as animations/camerawork are rough and the lack of a real cinematic focus makes her not understand what's happenning, especially as she's looking in the entire wrong direction sometimes

>for whatever asian-dad reason, they put a TIMED combat section while having her navigate Doom style level design to figure out the 3 interactable bombs and all of this right at the end of New Eden which she does manage to get through (we lowered the game to easy by this point)

>ok, it's over, citadel time! she has to love this bit

>it's a fucking trainwreck

>she can't make make ANY sense of the layout "all the corridors and doors look the same", and the signposting is pants-on-head retarded, as you get the text direction of the thing you're interactable/highlighting, which you're often looking at two of them, and she just saw "Csec" as she passed an glowy thing and kept going forward, not realising Csec is behind her... the map helps, but not by much.

>i just give up on trying to explain three types of assault rifles now in the assault rifle category, and weapon mods, and so many stats and powers in the squad menu (activated auto-use on everyone anyway), eventually i just go "it's on easy, it doesn't matter, nor is ME1 really that 'good' mechanically so let's just skip this".
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>>3953665
>>3953666
Why do you keep saying New Eden, Satan? EDEN PRIME

I feel you, I have only one real marriage candidate amongst abouts unwothy 10 suitors. I can't let her borrow any portable gaming handheld I own (at least without constant supervision) that she me asked for, lest she shatter it into 989,549,855,948,597 tiny fragments in one day
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>>3953666

>initial sections of story bits roaming the citadel and getting spectre status and the normandy gather interest, she dislikes udina, so at least that's something, 'ok, let's head out and do some asigments',

>she has no idea where to go aside from the super signposted main missions, i mention a random asignment she got from the radio on the citadel, she manages to get into the system and then we drop down in the mako, sing along with me now

>it's a fucking trainwreck

>Legendary Edition Mako is more gameplay, but you have to work so much harder to 'climb' stupid mountains, the Mako never made sense and always felt weird to drive, but i swear i thought i had Stockholm syndrome as i genuinely was trying to defend it in a weird way, but it really wasn't great

>meets thresher maw, dies, because of course shooting and moving is waaaayyyy too much for her, she was shooting while barely taking cover and being stationary while on foot, let alone in the speedking that is the Mako

>we pause it there for the day and i go on Nexus Mods to get about 12 mods to make this in any way shape or form be something that she'd at least like to engage with

>get minigame skip mod, get galaxy map markers mod, get planet markers mod, get a shitton of mods.. and i used to be a really anti-mod guy, "original vision" and all that.. but brah.. nah
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>>3953673

sorry, well past my bed time, and i'm old
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>>3953680
Go larp somewhere else if you can't even get the basic details right, zoomer faggot
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any mods to skip the Ubisoft section of Mass Effect 1 yet?
the Collect-a-thon on Mako
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>>3953678
no shame in qol mods, esp since later games had better map markers and tracked what planets you already went to
I'm playing le1 rn trying to do all the side quests before virmire and all the mako missions make me wanna kms
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>>3953734
>>3953810

Realistically there's no real reason to do any of the Mako collectathon stuff at all. I think you can get the required stats without them to import wealth into ME2, and you can look up what triggers get imported into ME2/ME3 and i think it's just the geth data and the kohoku cerberus arc that's worth a damn. Maybe Helena Blake stuff as well.

But those are quite few compared to how much Mako driving you'd need to do to get evreything.

I think with the comic/storyboarding DLC thing you can just create most of what you'd care about for a ME2 playthrough.
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>>3947995
>>3948171
I mean it's always been "gameplay-first" from a lore perspective when it comes to that. Like they thought of the idea of a thermal system for guns first and then wrote it into the lore. People complained about it so they wrote into the lore "oh actually there's new technology and guns use interchangeable thermal clips for efficiency or some bullshit". They even make a point to mention in ME2 that the old type of guns still exist but Cerberus doesn't distribute them, I forget if ME3 had any reason though and don't care enough about that game to think about it.

Lore services the gameplay before the gameplay services the lore.
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>>3938636
I'm playing ME2, and it's great so far. I just recruited Grunt, and with him and Garrus I notice how nice it is to not have screaming women in my squad lol. Too bad they don't have the Pull ability though.
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>>3954511
Garrus is okay in 2, lot of missions will benefit from his abilities
that being said, I would like to know what were they smoking when making the third game
Garrus soloes Mass Effect 3 with proper rifle and armor pen rounds
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>>3954638
Biotics are implants and this thing one has in me1. Omni tool is for techs, but why does it shoot fire and ice? Why can't I overload the omni tool?
>>3954511
>Pull ability
Useless?
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>>3947995
>concept of heat and overheating
That's true. Zoomies freakout as they deem it 'random' and 'rigged'.
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Just finished ME2.
I made a lot of terrible decisions. I'm sorry, everyone.
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>>3954889
>they deem it 'random' and 'rigged'
Surely you jestin'
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>>3954893
Nope. They liked it until they play. My roomie in uni was a zoomy and had friends over. Everyone is the same. Sperg out when they can't shoot. With lousy shooting skills targeting one enemy leaves the gauge full while the aimed at enemy has with a little health left and they yell
>he overloaded my gun despite him just using a power!
>artificial difficulty, gun jams shortly before the kill
>wdym there's no upgrade removing the input block
>I pressed shoot and i did hit him why isn't he dead
If you have the chance to shill the game to zoomies and then let them play the game you are in for a good time. I figure the generation after the zoomies should be confused even more. Idk how your country is doing in education, but 1/4 of the elementary kids can't even hold a pencil.
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>>3954904
On one hand this is extremely hilarious but on the other it's scary how retarded they are.
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>>3954885
>omnitool is for techs
everyone uses it, even those who have biotic implants or have no combat experience whatsoever
>fire and ice
something something hardlight can materialize gas and nitrogen particles
>overload
that's one of the skills anon
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>>3954484
>They even make a point to mention in ME2 that the old type of guns still exist but Cerberus doesn't distribute them
but you encounter a few planets that have been isolated from the galaxy for over a decade (jacob's dad's planet being the most obvious one) and they still use (and drop) thermal clips there.
would have been cool if they threw in a couple of missions where they used the old ammo system with some extra lines for flavor like "you can't expect to get thermal clips on this planet, so the armory has modified your guns" or something like that. me2 and me3 had many chances to mitigate their retardation and almost always chose to do either nothing, or the dumbest thing possible. they're completely salvageable with like 4 or 5 pages of extra lines per game. just stuff to show you the writers cared and that the world has some consistency.
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>>3954932
>some extra lines for flavor like "you can't expect to get thermal clips on this planet, so the armory has modified your guns" or something like that
You underestimate how retarded normalfags are and forget they are the main target demographic
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>>3954925
>something something hardlight
Right, it (what) reacts with matarials. Lol.
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>>3954885
>>Pull ability
>Useless?
It's an example of a great ability for this kind of game. Even during hectic battles I can tell that my squad is contributing when I see a guy floating.

Another noticeably effective squad member seems to be Tali, so I'm probably taking her along from now on.
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>>3954971
I really dislike space Muslim. She's even a techy. Muslims in western countries always go into tech. She's the walking stereotype. In the next playthrough I have to romance cat eyes unfortunately. Now 15y later I must say me 1-3 is better than almost everything that comes out today.
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>>3954904
>but 1/4 of the elementary kids can't even hold a pencil
Please tell me you’re joking
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>>3954971
problem with abilities that work only health is that you don't have much use for them, husks are not a problem even on those 2 annoying missions
greatest threats are barriers and armor
Miranda is the graham cracker of personalities but her skillset is fantastic for this game
>Overload
just about every 2nd-3rd secondary mission will have shields and robotic enemies, great
>Warp
deals with armor and barrier (also blocks health regen), again fantastic
>Cerberus cheerleader passive
free HP and DMG bonus for everyone in the squad
>slam
really meh unless you play as an adept and can set up an extra explosion
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>>3955004
No. Their motor skills are fucked because they only learned to swipe on a tablet or a phone.
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>>3938636
Wasn’t Saren intentionally studying mind control to help him better understand reaper indoctrination?
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>>3954973
She didn't strike me as muslim, but then again I don't know shit about muslims.

But yeah ME2 is fantastic. Really good characters. Mission are nice bite sized episodes. I'm not an expert on third person shooters but the gameplay seems really good for a RPG, now that I got better weapons.

>>3955007
Miranda is probably good, I just didn't see her effect. But Jack, you can probably imagine the delight when I saw her Pull an enemy boss over a bottomless pit and drop them there to die.

Now I've recruited Samara and I'm about to see what she's capable of.
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>>3955004
Just look it up. There are gadgets for kids to hold pencils. Plenty of tutorials. Ai or llm melts brains in real time.
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>>3955016
The hijab? Pretty sure quarian are muslin jew gypsies inspired
>me2 is fantastic
Me1 is the best game, but two is great. Shame 3 has a shit ending, but the gameplay in 3 is muuuucchh better than in 2. Hope you play renegade. I plan 3 playthroughs. Renegade beating the enemy in 3 and surviving. The next one is incompetent shepard. Kill as many people as possible and be as incompetent as possible. No side content
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>>3955016
Miranda gives the team a boost. Pretty useful. Unfortunately lore and gameplay don't match up.
Lorewise samara>jack>>miranda. Gameplay wise jack is last and miranda first. I like jack, but she's useless on the battle field.
>>3955007
>slam
Was this in 2 or 3 where you can chain attacks? No one survives full slam and my 3 point sentinel overload. Literally no one. Slam is strong af.
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>>3955018
>The hijab?
I don't get get the connection. Both genders need the suits after all, and it's not about whatever the fuck muslim women wear them for.
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>>3955018
>Hope you play renegade. I plan 3 playthroughs. Renegade beating the enemy in 3 and surviving. The next one is incompetent shepard. Kill as many people as possible and be as incompetent as possible.
I'm just winging it, picking the options that seem appropriate. Mostly paragon so far, but renegade has some fine options often.
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>>3955018
anon shawl was basic attire in the middle ages for women, hijab would be full on robe
any Muslims worth their salt would call her a whore
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>>3955065
You need a high score in one direction, pick at least 80% paragon from now on and more in me3, else you miss options. Esp in me3 costly.
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>>3955091
the final dialog needs high paragon, I remember failing it because I was one bar short
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>>3955089
You think they used shawl as inspiration? What's with her dialect?
>any Muslim...
Come now. Any real Christian would so, too. Let's not forget that this isn't 2009, there are already plenty of hijabi whoring around on drugs.
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>>3955108
I can't really find anything tangible beyond "it just sounds like it" to support Muslim connection, by that logic I could call them Jamaicans since their helmet tubes look like rasta dreadlocks
they don't really have strong religion beyond venerating ancestry
Confederacy with elected admirals as heads of state not religious figures
funnily enough their Homeworld is called Rannoch which sounds like the Ukranian word for "morning" (also the name of the war in which they lost their homeworld)
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>>3955131
They kinda deserve the geth. Why don't krogan have robots? They have decent weaponry. I just fear that Me5 will completely fuck the lore and established story.
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>>3955136
>I just fear that Me5 will completely fuck the lore and established story.
What could they do to it they have not already done? This is like worrying about Baldurs Gate 4 or Fallout New Vegas 2.
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I got to the part where Normandy is invaded. And I recruited Legion. This game is so unbearably kino.

Got me thinking how ridiiculous RPG Codex top 100 is for worshipping old games for their "historical" value.
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>>3955144
Haha, good one. Who will make bg4? Owlcucks? It's so ridiculous.
>>3955153
That's the end. You have 4 missions left or you will loose your crew. Has little impact on me3.
>me2 kino
It really is. Despite the valid critique it's joy. Maybe the last good game before we got 10 years of slop.
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>>3939545
Yeah three was more fun to play and some do the bonus missions were neat
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>>3955156
>>me2 kino
>It really is
I don't think I've played another RPG with choices that actually made me think this much. Says a lot about how invested I am in the world, and that is the work of the writers. Superb.

Fucking game making me ponder about space frog fertility.
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>>3955185
Shame bg3 didn't have good writers. Can't say I put any thought into bg3 choices, well 'choices'.
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>>3955188
What RPGs had choices you thought about?
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>>3955219
Bg2, lol. Other than that pst, sure. Unfortunately I can't say dragon age. Plenty of good rpg don't have much choice. Fallout 1 and 2 come to mind. They have some meaningful choices.
Now that I think of it, rpg without choices lack something vital. Games are about choices. Anything else is a movie, duh.
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ME2 complete. Goes straight into my top 10 RPGs. What a ride.

Jack and Samara died, and some of the Normandy crew. I wasn't saddened by Jack's death.
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>>3954973
>>3955016
>>3955018
The game developers literally say Quarians are intended to be the space Jews. Pic related

>>3955049
Jack has more powerful biotics than Miranda but I still think Miranda would beat her in a 1v1 fight. Jack has a surprising IQ of about 150 (she memorized the schematics for L5 Biotic Implants, sorta like memorizing how to build an iPhone 64 from scratch in today's terms. Her "gifts" as a baby might be why she was chosen by Cerberus to be Subject Zero in the first place) but Miranda clearly has an IQ at least 10 standard deviations higher than Jack like at least 350 IQ given every gene in her body operates at-or-above peak human potential. Biotics are useful in a fight but aren't the entire battle, Miranada outclasses Jack in guns and tech attacks bigtime

Samara is stronger than both and might be able to even win a 2v1 against them. Not just because she has nearly 1,000 years of combat experience but because Justiciars have a high causality rate in the training, Samara implies 99% of people who want to become a Justiciar die during the training

Wrex is stronger than Samara though. Surviving over 1,000 years on Tuchanka is a bigger deal than surviving Justiciar training

>>3955153
Legions based but Shepard is the better gamer despite the Shadow Nigger files

>>3955136
Waste of resources. Krogan are far superior to mechs in combat. Not to mention very few Krogan possess the intellect to operate and maintain mechs

>>3955007
>Cerberus cheerleader passive
>Free HP for squad
>Free DMG for squad
>Free visuals of that ass for squad
>Free visuals of those titties for squad
>Free audio of that goofy accent for squad
Woohoo

>Slam
looks cool. fun to spam. but as far as Shepard bonus powers go, Neural Shock is twice as good

>>3954971
Her combat drone is very handy. Legions is superior. Engineer Shepards is SUPREME

>>3954932
>2175 Aeia
>Brain damaged shipwrecked crew somehow invent thermal clips compatible with Normandy weaponry
I hate this level
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>>3955769
Pretty sure I said Muslimjew. They are similar to each other. Plenty of jewish culture that's actually Muslim. Don't forget that Jews today have little to do with Hebrew back then.
>350
Thats bs. Just because scientist say
>yooo girl on fire, she lit 10/10, maybe more
Doesn't mean she is more intelligent than the best scientists ever. Genetics alone aren't that important. Despite all that, my money is miranda.
Samara might beat shepard. Shepard without team or henchman isn't that great. He shines when he has resources, team and squad. Then he's invincible.
>krogan iq
Are they stupid? They have nukes and all. A redundant nervous system, too. Basically can't bleed out fast and pain is a non issue. Just look at garrus soaking 10 handcannon bullets without shield.
>Free audio of that goofy accent for squad
... A bloody icOn
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>>3954932
>you can't expect to get thermal clips on this planet
Too much work. Me T should be reworked by competent developers.
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>>3955775
>Samara might beat shepard. Shepard without team or henchman isn't that great
Shepard solos Wrex in ME1 and ME3. But yes when it comes to leading a squad 3 coordinated guys Shepard is absolutely the best in the business

>more intelligent than the best scientists ever
She's an enhanced clone of Henry who is decent IQ. He poured billions of credits into her creation. By the 22nd Century it shouldn't be a stretch to discover which combination of genetic factors significantly raise IQ the most. I'd estimate Shepard's IQ around 180 despite coming across as a stereotypical military jarhead at times. Being Shepard is different than playing Mass Effect on your home gaming console. There are no continues, no mulligans, he only gets ONE chance. It's not like he can say:
>"Oops! I picked the wrong weapons and squamates for the Collector ship mission. I'll just load my game and try a different strategy"
Miranda is the only human squadmate who should theoretically have a higher IQ than Shepard, presumably multiple deviations higher. She was designed in a high-tech lab from the ground up to be "perfect" in every capacity with all her lower IQ failures discarded via postbirth abortion

Goto might be higher IQ than her. Unclear how much her illegal Greybox implant increases IQ

TIM is very high IQ too but a hard number to estimate given the mysterious factor of alien technologies. his IQ essentially doubled with his Raper enhancements he received during the 1st Contact War in the Ascension Novel

>Are Krogan stupid?
Very. Okeer, Grunt and Wrex are rare exceptions. The only race dumber than Krogan are Vorcha (unless we count Kreepers, the most autistic race)

>They have nukes
Krogan nuclear physicists (rarest kind of Krogan?) lived in their Golden Age. Now that they've bombed themselves back into the Stone Age (about 2 weeks after inventing nukes) Krogan are mostly illiterate savage cavemen who only care for survival and COMBAT

>I said Muslimjew
idk? another pic related!
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>>3955815
In me3? The scene in me1 is bs. He hits him once and he's dead. Krogan oni sane hit shepard once and he's 1000 % dead, no matter if shields or whatever.
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>>3955815
>Raper enhancements he received during the 1st Contact War in the Ascension Novel
Did he?
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>>3955932
>Ascension Novel
Right, didn't realise it's a book outside the game. Any good?
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>>3955016
>But yeah ME2 is fantastic
>the gameplay seems really good for a RPG
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>>3956449
Arguably rpg have bad gameplay per se.



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