>RPG Codex's top 100 RPGs of all timeholy shit this is embarrassing
seems fairly reasonable
>>3958782/thread
>>3958781>>3958782Most of these aren't even RPGs
I am /vrpg/ goer I don't like the dex I'm gonna make vague hyperbolic statements about a 100 rpgs all at once to farm (you)s, this is not at all like reddit karma farming because this is BASED and not CRINGE like the dex
>>3958781You mad bro? Got a ban?
>>3958781I just looked at the top row and it's pretty good. I've played all the games in that row except for Jagged Alliance and Witcher 3, and the only game there that I didn't really enjoy is BG2. If I made my own top 10 RPGs list it would be pretty similar to the top row
>>3958782>>3958784ah yes, mount and blade: warband, definitely an RPG and infinitely better than dragon age: origins
>>3958781so post your top RPG list
>>39588061. da:o2. bg33. nwn24. kotor2powergap5. the rest
What exactly makes FO1 three times as good as FO2?
>>3958818it's older therefore bettertrust the plan, rpgcodex elders are in control
>>3958818>What exactly makes FO1 three times as good as FO2?KEK what do you mean three times, because there's three games between them??
>>3958825Just having a bit of fun with my phrasing because they're #2 and #6 but I am legitimately asking why 2 should be betterI've never seen anyone put 1 above 2 in my life
>>3958828why 1 should be better* herp derp
>>3958818Why is ultima underworld better than pink hair anime girl
>>3958781>including UNDERTALE of all things instead of actual rpg maker kinopopularity awards
>>3958844>rpg maker kinolmao
>>3958846are we pretending undertale is peak rpg maker? if not my point still stands
>>3958847>I called this dogshit dogshit, now you can't make fun of me for eating cowshit
>>3958850there's ton of less dogshit dogshit, so again, my point still stands dumb retard
>>3958855So you formally retract your post saying that there's RPGM kino? Thanks for conceding
>>3958858no, i only accept the fact that you have no taste and that i'm talking about pearls and you are the swine, BUT that aside, i accept you concession and i'm glad we both agree that undertale is far from the best rpg maker games out there, yet it appears there because it's extremely popularaka popularity awards, qed
>>3958804You're being sarcastic, but everything you said was completely correct.
>>3958868ask grok to help you with better bait
>>3958830>why 1 should be better* herp derpGo replay 1, and then immediately replay 2, and post your thoughts.
>>3958858>>3958862Yeah.. I'm just gonna take both of your concessions, thank you very much.
>>3958874I think I'll just ask your whore mother to suck my cock instead
ah yes the celebrated rpg mount and blade: warband. the thrilling roleplay potential of which copy-paste village do I plunder, and which copy-paste dialogue do I select for the game's 5 different NPC types.
>>3958804DA:O mechanics suck ass.Horrible scaling. Misguided MMO-ish inspirations.
>>3958781Seems like a good list.
>>3958919This has been debunked
>>3958785
>>3958781>popular games are popular>OP clutches pearls and faints on his chaise longue
>>3958781>Age of Decadence>A shitty NWN2 expansion pack that is 90% dialog>Planescape, the pseudo intellectuals holier-than-thou wannabe game>Div:OS Modern comedy slop >Grimoire LOL>Trails in the Sky (Cuz they love dominant lolis)>Tyranny: ultimate story fag gameI expect nothing less from a site whose spiritual leader is a kissless virgin who went bald at 30 and couldn't get laid in America so he went to Asia to fuck desperate brown whores.
>>3958781There is no final fantasy or dragon quest so this reeks of contrarianism. I don't get why people like that are so afraid of liking something even if it's popular. Its pathetic.
>>3959073They have a separate list for JRPGs (the list in the OP is also an old one, the recent list is only 70
>>3959096There is a jrpg in the picture though
>>3959103Huh, it's weird. Anyway here's their JRPG listhttps://rpgcodex.net/gallery/17685.jpg
>>3958952No idea who that is but he sounds fucking based
>>3959111>first game is the ''lol rape'' JRPGshameless posers with shit taste
>>3958818Fallout 2 has a lot more content and a few quality of life improvements but also comes with a massive dose of retardation in the writing.
>>3959111>Terranigma that highI mean, it's a damn good game, but hell no it isn't a good JRPG. It's not even a JRPG to begin with.
>>3958809There are better ways to deal with your illiteracy than seethe about not fully voice acted games, anon.
>>3958781It's really hard to make a top 100 RPG list because most RPGs are bad. It's a genre with a lot of potential that very rarely reaches that potential. There's a very good reason that most of the most beloved RPGs are the ones which hybridise with other genres and therefore dodge the pitfalls of boring gameplay and mucho texto.
>>3959111i swear this looks like a random order
>>3959111>porn game>only BoF is that shitty Dragon Quarterwhere's the real list?
>>3961159I feel like this is a huge part of why the Codex community feels so off. It consists of people who try hard to come of as elitists, but for a genre of things that's mostly more potential than it is actually great, so they're obsessed with something that largely isn't that satisfying and are looking for something that fulfills their fantasies of the amazing game that actually lets them roleplay freely and have any decision they make affect the world in truly meaningful and fully realized ways, while being frustrated that this barely happens and isn't what they really wanted when it sort of does.So they play into this identity of elitism, but it mostly feels put on because they're generally not playing things that are truly great or challenging and you can tell they're not fulfilled by most of what they do have and are chasing some ideal that will likely never exist.
>>3961200Basically you disagree with them.
>>3958781All that western slop christ
>>3961195I've never met a single person who enjoyed dragon quarter it's inherently shit as a stand alone game and extremely insulting as a boe game
>>3958809You couldn't pay me to play that gay slop zoomie. >>3958781Divinity 2, Tyranny, Kingmaker, Mass effect, and Witcher 3 should get booted off for quality. Star Control 2 while great isn't a rpg.Slot in Rogue, Brigand: Oaxaca, Prelude to Darkness, Colony ship, CDDA, and Weird West.
>>3958804>dragon age: originsDragon age is bg3 without anything good.The loot is boring, the dnd substitutes for classes and systems are boring, the fodder encounters suck, the story is typical kotor ripoff that bioware has been repeating for a decade, I can go on.>>3961200Holy reddit.>>3958809Bg 3 and nw2 in any list is embarrassing.>>3958952Pissing on grimoire exposes the weak.
>>3961200>elitism.I genuinely can't imagine how Non-elitism list would like like if that's an elitist one. It'll be skyrim on the first place, bg3 on second and that's it?..
The only good thing from the codex are the femboy user pictures.
>>3958781>all these indie rehashes of old gamesSpiritually dead uncs who are restrained by their friends before they drunk call their ex wife again
>>3958781>this threadWhy aren't more anons shitting on OP for posting stuff from that site?
>>3959869Why would I waste time reading some shitty RPG when I can read an actual novel?
>>3961329Yooo he phyre
>>3961452I imagine most people who would (rightly) care enough to bother either filtered the thread or had it autofiltered.
>>3958781>Making a thread about RPG CodexYes, this is embarassing, anon. Instead of focusing on this, why don't we try to solve the mystery of which RPG Codex users are just sockpuppet accounts for their mods. I'm pretty sure Roguey and Fedora Master are the same person. I haven't figured out Infinitron's secret identity yet.
>>3961382There's only one such user, the soundcloud rapper who works at McDonald's.>>3958818It's tonally consistent.
>>3958781When you post a top 100 list you have to specify the methodology used to generate the list. Is it fan voting? How do fans vote do they pick 100 games themselves? Is it based on what people think the best game is or is it their favorite game? Define the parameters before I even begin to form an opinion.
>>3962404>the best game is or is it their favorite game?There's not a lot of difference. Unless you're some fake hipster who picks Fallout even though you don't actually like playing it.
ITT: codexers (yes incl. me)
>>3962543Is the forum that slow that you need to come here as well?
>>3958781This place is literally just the dumping ground of RPG Codex GODS (like me) & /v/ermin who come here to get educated and/or humiliated by us.The Codex is & should be the aspiration of all of you lowly /v/ermin.
>>3962553Not her, but obviously I can post of RPG Codex from the toilet as easily as I can here, with Blue Clover TM.And on The Codex we have to be high brow adult intellectuals.
>>3962564>Not herHmm codex allows girls. A place of degeneracy, it's gotta be.
>>3962563Go outside or back to RPGCodex nigger
>>3962534>There's not a lot of difference.There is a lot of difference unless you are completely incapable of self reflection and acknowledging your biases. Many of my favorite games I wouldnt consider the best of the genre due to nostalgia and personal preference.
>>3962563Why do newfags call themselves gods all the time? All of you are so uncreative. It's like one tripfag across tens of thousands of IPs.
>>3958781didn't read.which ones had native tensei?
>>3961521>actual novel?visual novels.
>>3962967>self reflection and acknowledging your biasesThings human beings are good at, especially online nerds.It would be better to drop pretenses.
>>3958781pretty good list
>>3958781Top 100 is always pointless because you know half are classics, quarter modern 10s and then you maybe get something interesting left. Their YEARLY awards are more interesting if you ask me.>GOTY1 - Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon2 - Clair Obscur: Expedition 333 - Look Outside4 - Cyber Knights: Flashpoint5 - Swordhaven: Iron Conspiracy>PC Port/Remake/Remaster1 - The Temple of Elemental Evil2 - Avernum 4: Greed and Glory3 - Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicles>DLC/Expansion1 - Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader - Lex Imperialis2 - Neverwinter Nights: Enhanced Edition - Doom of Icewind Dale3 - Wandering Sword - Secrets of the Eastern Sea
>>3963159>bloodlines 2 at the very bottom https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qQHHAXt3XtsYNX8wwtlaC6fuiiNObGqSgZeK1eKLnRY/edit?gid=219627135#gid=219627135sasuga
>>3958781A lot of these are good though
Make your own top 100 if you're so great
>>3963159problem with their voting system is they replaced "tyranny of the majority" with few high ranking scores supplanting them instead. by all accounts kcd2 should be in the top 5.
>>3963194>by all accounts kcd2 should be in the top 5.Why? Cuz the devs are chuds?
>>3963242>chudno, they are being blasted by "chuds"
>>3963242Did you look at the graph?
>>3962994I for one love it when NPCs (usually kids and/or newfags) come at me with accusations like this. I only started posting on 4chan regularly 15 years ago so I keep thinking I'm just a "middle aged" 4chan poster. But statistically, I am very likely in the top 3% of oldest posters in every thread I post in, across all boards I frequent. Both in terms of my own age (only 34 years old) and in terms of how long I've been posting on 4chan.>Your next post : some cope about how you've been here since 2001[sic] ACKshu--Don't care, /v/ermin. >B-but you use [words]I remember when "based" was introduced to 4chan and the kids back then also tried to pull "if you say based then X". I have updated my lingo whenever it was appropriate to trigger as many NPCs as possible.Remember, /v/ermin. You are all just ants who exist to entertain me. This ain't a two way street. I am *God*.
>>3963257>2016+ buzzword spam + rhetoriclol
>>3963257lol kek, you sound like a drumpfer
>>3961159>because most RPGs are badEven beloved classics are often botched unfinished jank. RPGs are right behind space sims when it comes to aimless scope creep holding the whole genre back.
>>3963311Entire thing about genre enthusiasts is they're able to overlook problems if there's that SOMETHING that makes the game interesting or stand out.
>>3963257You stick out like a sore thumb dude, you have a very recognizable posting style even though you rotate through three or four “personas” that you use. I can immediately think of multiple threads you’ve had total meltdowns and embarrassed yourself in, and looks like this will be +1. You’re felted, bitch.
>>3963327Translation: I live in this librul jeetroon's head rent free because I FELTED him every single time he tried to start shit.I trigger you just by unleashing my aura, so you outed yourself as a subhuman shitskin once again. You will never be a Codexer (the most prestigious title possible in the RPG field - even if you made an account you'd be just a crossie wannabe lil cuck), you will never be White, you will never be a woman. And you want to be all three.I am the *GOD* of RPGs, an early 2000s member of the Codex (with the prestigious Arcane & [Patron] title), the oldest poster ITT, and the best & the wisest poster on /vrpg/ - and the last part is not me bragging, that's just me stating facts. It would be like bragging that I am the tallest & smartest in a sand pit full of retarded brown childs [sic].
>>3958804I'm a huge shill for the DA:O and even its expansions, but M&B: Warband is literally an RPG and a better game.
>>3963327I love that some guy lives so rent free in your head that you think you recognize him on /v/. I really hope that its actually me and that guy just caught a stray.
>>3963394>>3963409>samefagging
why do they wank Avellone so much?
>>3963257>(only 34 years old)you are not as old as old /vr/ posters. and you're probably a tourist who never lurked anyway....
>>3963413There's no better feeling on this website than being accused of samefagging when you're not. You're truly mindbroken.
>>3963257>>3963285aw it's samefagging but it came here after 2016 so it can only repeat the same handful of character combinations :c
i want to wife Lilura or Dragon Lady
>>3963442>so it can only repeat the same handful of character combinations“Jeet”“Troon”“GOD”“Felted”Like a Markov chain post generator
>>3963442>>3963760So true my fellow transes
>>3958781>Darksouls>RPGmein neger, single episode of Sesame street has more depth to it than this shit
>>3964066>complaining about DS when shit like TES, Mass Effect and KoTOR are on the list
>>3964081yeah actual RPGsDarkturd is action game that larps as an RPG
>>3964137>RPG fan when he sees the bare minimum of a functioning combat system
>>3964137thats the same bullshit "logic" trolls use to say that Dark Souls isn't a JRPG
Love how its the same games on every single list ever and people feign a guffaw as if any different list was possible
I don’t want to make a new thread and this the closest to my question.>bg 1&2>icewind dale>neverwinter nights 1&2>siege of dragonspearWhich are considered the good ones?
>>3964499Certainly not Beamdog's fanfic.
>>3964499BG 2
>>3964499>Which are considered the good ones?All of them except Dragonspear, though for different reasons.
>>3964369correct, not 4 dudes in a row
>>3964673gank squads say otherwise
>>3964499icewind dale is the only halfway decent game yhere, and that's a 5/10 at best. iwd2 gets to a 7/10.
>>3964081all of those are more character-driven than dark souls, dark souls is 100% predicated on player skill.
>>3964950>dark sludge>skilllmao
>>3964960yes? i don't see why you seem to be deriving some kind of value judgement on my part, from my objectively true and neutral observation.
>>3964950>100% predicated on player skill>>3964967>my objectively true and neutral observation.Take your (you) my good sir xD
>>3958781>westoid grimdark slopyea i'm good
>>3961200That's true but everyone will just mock your observation because it also describe 4channers.
>>3961343>good constructive posts are redditcringe hivemind mentality
>>3964950Mass Effect is mountain dew and doritos driven movie for lobotomized Xbox kids where both character building and combat are braindead and shallow.KotOR is fanservise driven Star Wars theme park with inconsequential mechanics stuck between BG's opaqueness of its system and ME's casualization for console babies.TES is jank-driven porn games engine without a single properly functioning system, no matter what kind of value you squeeze out of it, you'll be doing it through larping and modding.DS features great degree of interaction between character building and action combat with both being very functional and never cannibalizing each other, allowing you to both solve encounters with appropriate gear choices and power through fight on sheer consistency of your dodgerolls.
>>3965254>BG's opaqueness of its systemStopped reading here
>>3965270and ME's casualization for console babies.TES is jank-driven porn games engine without a single properly functioning system, no matter what kind of value you squeeze out of it, you'll be doing it through larping and modding.DS features great degree of interaction between character building and action combat with both being very functional and never cannibalizing each other, allowing you to both solve encounters with appropriate gear choices and power through fight on sheer consistency of your dodgerolls.There's the rest of the post for you, you're welcome
>>3958782Yeah, if someone played any half of that list of games they'd be very literate in RPGs.
>>3958781Looks like just a bunch of WRPG trash. And then why do they have Dark Souls II and Dark Souls III but not Dark Souls I or Demon's Souls?
>>3965502Dark Souls 1 is in the top row
>>3965509Oh, fuck, you're right. I was looking for the OG cover. That makes more sense than II and III being on there without the first, but I still think it's just a bunch of western slop.
>>3958844>>3959073>>3961299>>3965008>>3965502Not a single good game was ever created in Asia. Ching chongs are incapable of writing and designing gameplay
>>3965573Wrong.
>>3965573I mean you got slop like Undertale from the west too, so it's not really a win from your side, bud.
>>3965502thank god you niggas self-contain in jrpgs and eroge threads
>>3965598And thank god you stay in your Undertale threads.
>>3965592do u see Undertale on that list? Thats the strawman only jarpig slop eater would come up with to make his shitty games look better by comparison
>>3965604Still doesn't change the fact that it's a westoid game. A westoid inspired by jarpigs.
>>3965604>do u see Undertale on that list?bottom right, just below Deus Ex
>>3965254>character building and combat are braindead and shallow.>however dark sou-Don't even try that shit lol
>>3964949Horrible taste
>>3965573trvke
>>3958781That's outdated list
>>3965660It keeps getting worse somehow.
>>3965612Disingenuous and melanated contrarian faggot.I played through the whole Mass Effect trilogy on autopilot without putting a single thought into its mechanics (except switching from space wizard to gun dude when importing character ME2 so won't cuck myself out of using fun guns).It is literally impossible to treat Dark Souls this way because you see immediate and tangible impacts you your character building choices in DS.
>>3965690>It is literally impossible to treat Dark Souls this wayLol>ME2 so won't cuck myself out of using fun gunsYes the gun restriction was a design decision I disagreed with. I get the reasoning behind it, but the third game had a better solution.
>>3965660Divinity Original Sin 2 deserves to be on the list, its actually a RPG unlike stuff like JA2, Diablo2 or Battle Brothers
>>3965660>Troubleshooter but no Reverse CollapseGirls Frontline Line sisters....
>>3965660Brigand: oaxaca finally getting recognition it deserves
what about metroid Castlevania and megaman, they are quite like dark souls
>>3965660Says who? I don't accept votes from post 2015 posters as legitimate. Vermin pretending to be part of the Codex
>>3958804Dragon age origins is a ya novel writing tier single player mmo (boring as fuck skinnerbox)warband clears easily
this thread got me thinking we should start doing a /vrpg/ top 100 list of rpg games every year like how /lit/ does one for books.
>>3966050Make Thread. I'll be adding Mongol
>>3966050pointlessIt will get botted and shitposted instantly
GOTY 20231 - Jagged Alliance 32 - Baldur's Gate 33 - Colony Ship: A Post-Earth Role Playing GameGOTY 20241 - SKALD: Against the Black Priory2 - Drova - Forsaken Kin3 - Felvidek4 - Path of Achra5 - Caves of QudGOTY 20251 - Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon2 - Clair Obscur: Expedition 333 - Look Outside4 - Cyber Knights: Flashpoint5 - Swordhaven: Iron Conspiracy
>>3966054Mongoldev here. You're based fren.
>>3966050what is the /vrpg/ equivalent to infinite jest?
>>3958809your average normalfag when you ask them what RPGs they play
>>3966050>doing a /vrpg/ top 100 list of rpgIdk what's the pointSeeing what games people actually have the most playtime in would be interesting, but unfortunately impossible.
>>3963257stfu, gregz, you stupid faggot.
>>3966050I'm down for whatever, but let's at least separate JRPGs and W/CRPGs if this happens.
>>3966059You know your list is sad when one of your GOTYs is called fucking Foreskin
>>3966905BG3 lost to Jagged Alliance 3Expedition 33 lost to Tainted GrailCope
>>3966909I don't give a shit in case my not mentioning any of those didn't give it away.
>>3966909>BG3 lost to Jagged Alliance 3I hate BG3 and think it’s an overrated mediocre game plagued by poor decisions during its development.That said, the guy running the site fortified the election by rigging it such that different votes were counted with different weights, in order to ensure that BG3 lost, out of a petty grievance, and not from the choice of the voters. That’s a totally dishonest and pathetic thing to do. JA3 barely even counts as an RPG, and it’s completely obvious to anyone that BG3 was the bigger, more popular, and more influential RPG of the year.
>>3961343Why is his post reddit?
>>3966050No, because half the users here are annoying, retarded faggots, and in this day and age those sorts of threads tend to attract those people in concentration (much like this thread), thereby ensuring the list will be shit, which is undoubtedly why the RPGCodex one is so dubious, because people with taste and intellect would most certainly rather either actually play the games or discuss them, yep yep.
>>3958781you can't make a list of the best RPGs of all time anyways
>>3966992that's just not true anon and the source spreadsheets are there for anyone to auditthe real reason is simple as ballsmodern codex is a bunch of [mostly eastern european] trad-right contrarians who need a place to type 'nigger', share hitler or holocaust jokes, and mock tranniesthey aren't real rpg enthusiasts"the average score" system allows for easy manipulation by a dedicated group with a handful of smurf accounts (sometimes this isn't even required)just spam '1' votes enough times and now a game with twice the votes AND twice the points will lose b/c no one actually bothers to play a game they will likely score as 1 so there are almost no genuine low scoresAnd this didn't start with BG3The hilarious part is that they know they manipulate the vote, they are literally coordinating, and they still throw celebrations "WE DID IT PLEBBIT!" afterwards.Truly eastern europeans "trads" are never going to get voting
>>3974598not really
>>3958781At least third of those titles are action gamesAlso>Oblivion>Dragon AgeIs that a fucking joke?
>>3974620half of those are polaks on temp job visas and vpn-using ziggers
>>3958781>Almost no JRPGs>Undertroon, out of nowhereToo burgercentric
>>3974627Are the Polacks in the thread with you right now, anon?
>>3974598Why is this mentally ill lady shit talking rpg codex on vrpg like he's on discordGo back there and tell it to their faces, you fairy.
>>3974633it's obviously a non-serious reply anon>>3974636discrod-schmischcordwhat do you disagree with specifically?the spreadsheets and the forum are publicyou can see 1s anomalies in the votes, and you can find the "we did it plebbit!" styled posts in the 2023 goty results thread
>>3974651>what do you disagree with specifically?Video game forum gossip
>>3974659you must have replied to the wrong post thenI was talking about the goty voting system
>>3958781Any rpg, crpg or trpg coming up? Best I could find is gothic remake, it's like 2 years late and I'm out of the know for like 2 years. 8 guess bloodlines 2 is shit?
>>3974668there are two mass effect clones coming up next year, The Expanse: Osiris Reborn and Exodus
>>3974668From the "big ones" it'sDark HeresyExodusExpanseSolasta 2 (it's in Early Access for now)Gothic remakeListing far away stuff like Divinity, TES VI or Kenshi 2 feels pointless
>>3974701Thx. Do you think they are good? Exodus looks rough, but this can change and owlcucks are scum.I've just read that d2r will get more dlc? It's beyond laughable at this point.
>>3974717>TES VIKek, it's like an evergreen for what 20 years?>kenshi 2Yeah, right.Looks like solasta 2 the bg3 clone is the way to go and gothic remake might be fun. Kinda hoped for a new tactics ogre or fft. I know there are remakes, but new entries would be nice. With today's development times this might take 10 years. We just don't have the tech we had in the 90s where 15 months was a standard development time.
>>3974636Have you considered not making newfag posts on 4chan.org/vrpg/ if you do not wish to be called a newfag? All you have to do is TRY to fit in.
>not a single pathfinder game listed>deadfire is thoughcodexfags are the worst
>>3974759>codexfags are the worstActually, blind chan faggots are even worse.What do i spy in the first row?
>>3974769Queencreator, by TytonidaeFeline
/vrpg/ is just a Codex wannabe board. Tries to have its elite good taste but with lots of brown...'people' and NPCs.
>>3974824>Tries to have its elite good taste but with lots of brown...'people' and NPCs.Yes, you’ve described the rpg codex, but what about /vrpg/?
>>3958781i think it is a decent list. the games where you can really roleplay are at the top.
>>3974885the same!
>>3974824>Codex-wannabe>brown people out of nowhereYou are new to 4chan and will never fit in, newfag.
>>3974759>>not a single pathfinder game listedAre you blind?
>>3975336They might as well not be listed
>>3965869I tried shilling it there but had very limited success unfortunately.
>>3966059SKALD deserves the number 1 spot in 2024 but JA3 and Tainted Grail were really obviously astroturfed just because certain posters didn't like BG3 and E33 for reasons other than their merits.
>>3974633everyone knows the 'dex is a polish forum. it's the biggest in-joke after kingcomrade.
>>3974759pathfinder blows. both pillars and pathfinder waste your time with trash mobs but at least pillars doesn't waste your time with prebuffing and buildcrafting
>>3975498>I have to fight in this RPG oh no
>>3975348>Pathfinder not listed>it is>might as well not be listed?
>>3975519It says here that I'm>>3975336>blindI mixed up pillars and Pf.
>>3974824Are you stupid or just pretending?Codextards are so irrelevant that they need to come here, shill their chart every month with a thread, and try to talk with someone new, because with their terrible management they created an echochamber where anybody with IQ normal and above left the website and all they had left is a circlejerk. There is NOTHING new Codextards can offer these days, they had their days and now all they can do is throw temper tantrums, its one sided beef and its hilarious
>>3975552this
>>3975552>they had their daysYeah, like 18 years ago.
>>3975552It’s sad to see them clinging on like that. My S*mething Awful account is older than most of /vrpg/ but I acknowledged and accepted their decline into irrelevance many years ago, and moved on.
>>3975582Primadonnas like beef moved out, but trannies got too prominent
>>3975552it's just the way of the timesgrognards either have to accept newfags (which don't like forums anyway), or die offeither way, the direction CRPGs is going (BG3) means the genre is dead anyway
>>3975869This is the truth, eh?>age of darkIn the far distance, I sense the presence of tiny flames, images of crpg that surpass bg2, Like precious embers, left to us by past Lords, linkers of the fire crpg of the future.
>>3958781>this is embarassingYou JRPG fans are the embarrassment
>>3976261no u
>>3958781>this is embarrassingWhy?
>>3978903>3 day ban from the Cain thread>begins shitting this one upThe most predictable Codex newfag.
>>3975869RPG Codex has plenty of newfags, but they're slavs and south americans.
>>3979262This was written by a Latinx 2015+ registered user with an anime profile.>>3979208>3 day banKEK, nice way to out yourself, jeetranny. So, you got a 3 day ban in "the Cain thread" huh? Oddly specific thing to bring up. Either it's because you got a 3 day ban yourself and you're projecting - or because you are a jannyjeet / jannytranny. Either way, I am clearly gonna live rent free in your head eternally now that you're this buttblasted. I probably trigger you across the entirety of 4chan, i.e. when you do your do it for free (5 rupees a day) shilling for Israel on /pol/ or /a/ too.> Codex newfag.I am the biggest oldfag on Codex who posts in this shithole, and I am also the oldest poster on /vrpg/, which isn't even worth bragging about.
>>3979275Newfag that tries too hard or oldfag who never actually grew up and still acts as an edgy teen, which is worse?
>>3979282>which is worse?Replying to bait
>>3979275Are you meta head? Living in one's own head tenfree.
>>3975552>>3975561>>3975574>>3975582>>3975869Gee i wonder if this was written by the same person?
>>3979331Nope, guess again
RPGCodex is better than /vrpg/ and /crpgg/ honestly. They actually play and discuss games
>>3979339both /v/ and /vrpg/ went to shit in recent years and might be one of the worst places to discuss games or have any discussion at all
>>3979275I hope you keep this behavior up and let it encroach into your real life.>>3979339I sure do love <insert one of the same five megapopular crpg titles here>, fellow RPG fan!
>>39793399/10 when I enter a thread is whining about decline and woke with barely anyone playing them and the ones who may discuss gameplay being vastly outnumbered.For codex.So same shit
>>3958781>1 jrpg>it's kiseshitthat alone disqualifies this list
>>3979363Current codex threads:Kotc 2,Broken Dagger,classes talk and superhero crpgs.Current vrpg threads:Jrpg,jrpg,jrpg, bioware.One is not like the other.
>>3979648>classes talkI'm certain there are many valuable tipps to get there. Why does codex look like a 1999 website? Impossible to stay there for long.
>>3979672>Why does codex look like a 1999 websitesovl
>>3979672>Why does codex look like a 1999 website? Impossible to stay there for long.Codex hater is a zoomie,many such cases.
>Kenshinot even an RPG>Dark souls 2xD>Elexxd>Might and magic XXD>Jagged Alliance 2not an RPG>Temple of elemental evilxDD>Battle Brothersnot even an RPGalso where is BG3?
>>3979697>BG3not even an RPG
>>3979577see >>3965573
>>3979696>calm down gramps Zoomies are boomers, as are boomers, you boomer.
>>3958818There's the fact that 2's writing, as others have already mentioned, is of varying quality, but even more important than that for me is the scope of the games. Fallout 1 has a more limited scope, more in line with other classic RPGs like Baldur's Gate and PS:T where the side content is structured around the main quest and your character grows in power gradually throughout that quest, it's open world but there's a clear narrative and gameplay structure. On the other hand Fallout 2 feels more like a precursor to modern day open world RPGs, where you have several activity hubs where you do quests and meet factions most of which contain content almost completely unrelated to the main storyline which you may or may not even bother doing (and your character is basically done progressing by the time you've cleared half of those locations), meanwhile the main quest is something that's somewhere in the background which you get around to doing when you're done with fucking around doing side quests. It's a matter of whether your prefer your RPGs to be focused adventures or sandboxes.
>>3979710Can't you just not do side content in FO2? I never completed it so I don't know how high level you need to be for endgame
>>3979721Of course you can skip most content, in fact FO2 is one of the RPGs where you can most easily skip the most content, what I'm talking about is the difference between building a main quest and then building an open world around it versus building an open world sandbox first and then having a main quest take place in it. I know it sounds like semantics but the difference in design philosophy is noticeable in the pacing of the game, Fallout 1 may have less content but it's a tighter game.
>>3979275extreme hyperslav over here
>>3958818Funny thing is that around the early years of 4chan to around 2010 (estimating), FO2 was actually being recommended over FO1, simply because it had more content, more playstyles, more items, more choice and consequences, etc.It was around 2018 (again, estimating) onwards that people started recommending FO1 over 2, because 1 was tonally consistent and didn't have the pop culture memes possibly because they didn't understand it, or the fans now prefer something that is thematically consistent instead of memesRemember that looter shooter Borderlands game? The complaints against it happened inbetween the shift of recommending one fallout over the other.
>>3979729Yeah there was a clear shift in people seeing stuff like Monty Python references as pros then as cons.
>>3958818FO2 has completely fucked up dogshit skill balance. Sawyer put in incredible effort into making FNV's skills perfectly balanced and useful no matter what you focus on. FO1 had technically a similar problem but the small scale of the adventure made it so you could actually get away with shit builds and still beat the game (my girlfriend played through the game without putting any points in any weapon skills except throwing, she started out with First Aid and Doctor and Throwing tagged but also 10 Charisma so she could eventually get her speech high enough to be relevant too; if she did the same in Fallout 2 the game would be unbeatable without metagaming). FNV limited the amount of skills you could pick without losing anything actually important + the impact of tagging skills at start, so no matter what build you start with you can easily beat the game without doing any gimmicks or metagaming.Anyone who pretends FO2 is "betterer" than either FO1 or FNV is either a braindamaged zoomie (see any Bethesda subhuman who "goes back to the oldies") or a nostalgia glasses zoomlenial who liked Fallout 2 more as a kid because you could have sex with Bishop's daughter and that farmer slut in it and it had cooler armors and weapons and companions. In every aspect that actually matters, FO1 reigns supreme and every person who worked on Fallout 2 agrees with that and most of them except the ones who died agree FNV is also better than Fallout 2.This will trigger the left, but it already owned the left.
>>3958804yes and yes. I wouldn't even entertain an argument otherwise.origins is not only clearly worse, it's also less of an rpg.
>>3979275fack you bloody bich benchenoid basterd/vrpg/ is friends of India
>>3958804Seeing DA:O retroactively be considered a classic RPG, a shining example of the good ol' days when RPGs were good, by zoomers who never knew any better has been one of the worst experiences of my life.
>>3979746>has been one of the worst experiences of my life.Lol that just means you're a weak bitch boy
>>3979746tbf even at the time so many people gaslit themselves into thinking this was the resurgence of crpgs.
>>3979746Dragon age was released in 2009, the period from 2005-2012 was a draught for crpg's. Same reason kickstarter garbage like wasteland 2 is praised so much.
How is grimwah that high?Also, how is Heroine's Quest in there but none of the Quest for Glory games it was based off of are?
>>3979763There's Quest for Glory 4
>>3979729FO1 was a small and relatively short game compared to FO2.Every single location in FO1 except for the raider camp was crafted to point the player towards the next step towards either the cathedral or the military base. The end of the game basically railroaded the player to become an unstoppable force of destruction, wearing a powered armor and wielding the accelerated plasma rifle. Not much freedom to talk about.
>>3979672>Why does codex look like a 1999 websiteTo keep away retards like you
Not seeing Ultima V, so the list is shit.
>>3958785But theres a 100 of them thats an even number
>>3979729>FO2 was actually being recommended over FO1, simply because it had more content, more playstyles, more itemsI felt this way back in the day too, about Baldurs Gate 2 as well. Funny how the older I got, I preferred the simplicity of the first games over their expanded sequels.
>>3980351I was there. Nothing of interest. Basically adgd.
>>3980554>I preferred the simplicity of the first games over their expanded sequels.I don't think Fallout 2 was more complex than the first game
>>3981037It's all over the place when it comes to areas and their themes.
>>3981037>I don't think Fallout 2 was more complex than the first gameFO2 and BG2 had higher power levels. More levels, stronger items, more spells and abilities, etc.
>>3981356BG2 could be said to be more complex. BG1's encounters tended to be plain, it had fewer class kits, thieves couldn't set traps, etc.
>>3981681They didnt really use the tools in bg1 to their full extent. Theres like 2 enemies that even use dimension door in the whole game. Why did they even bother to program itThat said at lrast they even have dimension door. Newer games like pathfinder just program tons of autistic to hit math without actually changing any of the gameplay.This hobby is for autists and i wish i had never gotten into dnd because theres likr a total of 3 good games total and the fanbase is retarded
>>3958818Simply because FO1 is the more consistent game desu
>>3979742No matter how much copium you huff, NV is still a mod for a mod for Oblivion which itself is a busted ass janky prototype of an idea of a game.
>>3983140If the Oblivion engine is so bad, how come no developer has been able to make a better one that does what it can do?
>>3959111>Persona 5>Like A Dragon>Valkyria Chronicles>VALKYRIA CHRONICLES 4holy shit this is leagues worse than OP, this should have been the thread opener.
>>3963159>1 - Tainted Grail: The Fall of AvalonThis game was incredibly mid
>>3983702There are a lot of slavs on the site, they'll give perfect scores to anything Slavic as long as they don't get too American like CD Projekt did.
>>3983802based if true, ethnic solidarity is a good thing
>>3983802That's not why it wonTainted Grail became GOTY so Expedition 33 couldn't. E33 couldn't be allowed to win at any cost, it was too popular
>>3983807They could have rallied behind Swordhaven or even KCD2 if Vavra didn't decide to stab in the back the people he pandered to with the first one.