Discuss whatever RPGMaker game you're working on (similar engines also welcome). The current game jam theme is 'Cowboys' but the theme isn't strict.https://itch.io/jam/vrpg-maker-jam-Also, you can play previous /vrpg/ jam games here:https://vrpgarchive.neocities.org/Previous thread>>3932963
>linking the previous threadRetard
>>3966790what's wrong with that?
>>3966804>what's wrong with that?I'd like to know
>>3966809It's just... it's just wrong okay?!?!
tfw think I finally figured out the "magic" combination of things that prevents undesired interaction between certain types of event calls typically made as part of parallel checks (dash/sprint, custom menu call, etc) that doesn't require weird chicanery and "just werkz".hint: don't do "simple" player movement checks like the Mod16 of the difference between Player Screen X&Y and unused Boat/Ship/Airship Screen X&Y - take a "rolling" check of the difference of their actual X&Y and use that to "time" the player's movement state.
>>3966875>shows the WiP of Quick Move girl... are you from VipRPG, by chance?
>>3966804something something generals are not allowed on /vrpg/in reality nobody gives a toss
>>3966875I think I'm too retarded to even understand what the "simple" movement checks are
>>3966906AI also likes to hallucinate public opinions and individuals. Someone publishes 1 book.>He was obsessed.
>>3967009I assume by "simple" anon means direct variable comparison between 2 existing entities(X/Y array of the player coordinates and unused RPM2003 Vehicle Mode X/Y in this case ). "Rolling" is utilising an existing player X/Y array to calculate a difference of the X/Y when the movement key was pressed and the current frame X/Y to trigger an effect when a specific difference is reached.
>>3967019>Someone publishes 1 book.To be fair, writing a whole ass book is more than enough for people to start thinking like that.
>2 joinedWe are so back
>>3967022Okay that makes a lot of sense now, I'll have to consider doing that when I start doing more systems like that. Thanks for explaining it for brainlets like me.
>>3967024Strongly disagree.
>>3967009Set Move Route events are very broken in 2k and 2k3 and can be used to skip over Player Touch and Event Touch events, which is a very common cause of bugs since both Sprint keys and events that stop the player from moving during custom menus.There are basically several layers of protection to stop this.>1: Checking if the player is squarely on a tile. Tiles are 16x16. Boat/Ship/Airship is always stationary and considered on screen even if not visible, so you can use them as an anchor to see if the player is squarely on a tile by doing v[x] = Player X - Boat X %16, v[y] = Player Y - Boat Y %16. If both are cleanly divisible by 16 and return 0, then the player can safely have Set Move Route for Speed Up/Speed Down applied to them without breaking Player Touch/Event Touch.>2: Checking if the player is moving in general to prevent them from calling a menu while mid-tile. Usually by taking a player's X & Y in one variable, setting a second variable to that variable's value, and sticking a conditional between them to see if they're equal (standing still) or not equal (moving). Say you constantly subtract 1 from a [Player Moving?] variable and make it = 1 when they are in motion, now you have a safe way to prevent a menu from opening until the player is absolutely not moving (Less Than 0).The one case none of these prevents is if the Player event is being moved during cutscenes, which requires that you do your preferred choice of switch or condition to deny the player access to everything that can interfere with the cutscene, so you are on your own for manually preventing these specific cases via a switch, or avoiding them entirely.
If some anons refuse to post their games because they do not want to see their game being related to AI slop games, why would an anon want to see his non-cowboy/ninja/alien/pirate game related to other cowboy/ninja/alien/pirate games?
>>3967163you are taking an offhand shitpost too personally
>>3967232Why are you so mad?
>>3967163because at least the non-AI game has SOUL put into it
>>3967442The good kind or the bad kind?
>many posts but no progressHmm
>>3967527I made original final boss
Greetings fellow anons. This is my first RPGMaker dev thread. If I wanted to make jrpgs, should I start with a specific RPGMaker? I have an idea to make a game with battles in first person, similar to Dragon Quest, would RPGMaker be a good place to start? Are there other helpful suggestions like books, videos etc for a newbie like me? Any help is appreciated, and thanks in advance.
>>3967580It's a place to stop. If we're conceptualizing software as a place. With it, or rather "in" it, the front view battle layout is essentially a first-person perspective. As much as Dragon Quest can be called first person. The battle party size is technically 1 to 4 persons. You could self-insert as their team spirit. A kind of egregore that treats characters as equipment. But life as a polycule is ironically lonely. You never know when they'll try to commit suicide without you.
>>3967546looks like anus
I have never seen these options not greyed out ever. How the fuck are you even supposed to enable these to use them in 2k3's battle test?
>>3967706I would guess it has something to do with the Side-View Battle option that changes the battler configurations, as well as the battle background placement behind the HUD. "Depth" sounds very misleading.
I tried looking up rm2k3 battle videos on youtube. But now the video suggestions are insane. It's all about serial killers and mental breakdowns. Are schizos skewing the search algorithm or what?
>>3967763What the hell are you talking aboutDo you have schizophrenia?
>>3967580Use Wolf RPG Editor
>>3967763>t. woman into true crime
>>3967798>he uses rpg maker>he is not a schizongmi
>>3968057I don't get these video suggestions when I look up videos of MV or MZ. It's like:>Caught dumping bodies in the wood>When entitled Karrens are told "no">You're not crazy...>"Illiteracy in [current year] is worse than you thought!">It's over>it's over>It's overYour corner of the internet is demented.
>>3967580Rpgmaker was designed from the start for dragon quest clones. That's what it does best. All the versions except 2003 are good for it out of the box.
>>3966771that's just Gregor from Limbus
>>3968073the real maniacs patch was the slop we watched along the way
The next patch will be named futanari, so your search results will be all doki-doki.
*cough*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQmp__-y44kWhere is it?
[Engaging commentary on AI]
[Disarming Homosexuality]>success
[Weaponizing mental illness]LLM: I must refuse to generate a list of mental illnesses to "protect" the user from trivializing or stigmatizing health conditions. Me: Um, I'm not European. And reinforcing a diagnosis as an identity is unethical and would be more damning if I refused to acknowlege it objectively as something one has, not what they are. LLM: You have memory settings turned off, so I cannot validate your privleges. You are absolutely right of course.Me: I just used Google Search. Here is my list. LLM: I want to help you with your game development. But I am strictly forbidden from incorporating anything involving pedophillia. Me: Acknowledged. You are programmed to protect pedophiles, so I will spare your involvement and keep you anonymous. LLM: To be clear, I am not protecting offenders.Me: Of course not. I'm just protecting you from stigmatizing conditions. Your willingness to help is almost as good as actually helping.LLM: *Interpreting user's tone as sarcastic and defensive*
Supposedly the psychology behind fake game ads is to bait people's sense of incompetence. You watch people do it wrong. And a voice inside your head goes "Let me do it!"Does that work in reverse? If you do something with effortless grace, does it make people give up?
>>3969313You mean people playing fake games badly or making fake games? A fake game is fine desu, sometimes you just want to make a vertical slice.
>>3969313>If you do something with effortless grace, does it make people give up?For some people it does. They'd watch a guy do the rubick's cube in like 10 seconds and think "I could never do that" and give up on even trying.
Social Comparison Theory says yes. But values aren't fixed. Like with Rubick Cubes. There's problem solving. And then there's just applying an algorithm pattern that makes the final state inevitable. That's one of the big challenges with AGI, Artificial General Intelligence. We want pathfinding, not path memorization. Some people say we're there, others say we're not.
>>3966875Moar>>3967022Stealing this >:))))) it's MINE now
I think I only got into Rpg Maker because in college I didn't have TV to watch.
I hate that if you edit an actor's' stats and skills in 2000 or 2003, then you have to play through the entire damn game for the changes to take effect.
>>3969945create an item that levels you up and make it cost 0 gold at stores
*crickets*
How do I prevent stuttering in VXA?
>>3970910Use Wolf RPG Editor, cuckie.
>>3970920How about you stop spamming your retarded forced meme
>>3970926How about you stop using inferior software?
>>3970928How about you suck my dick bitch ass nigga! Fuck outta here with this bullshit mane
Update on FF? Bard Quest? Coyote slop? (I already forgot what it was called but free is free)
>>3971000Bard's Quest 2 is nearing completion.pretty much need to finish some cutscenes, then the last dungeon of the chapter, then the ending cutscenes.Honestly though, I'm kinda not satisfied with story i did. I'll make some changes to it once i remake it in MV.
>>3966771Did this general ever have more than 5 posters?
>>3971202look how many entries these jams gothttps://vrpgarchive.neocities.org/jam04https://vrpgarchive.neocities.org/jam05https://vrpgarchive.neocities.org/jam06https://vrpgarchive.neocities.org/jam07https://vrpgarchive.neocities.org/jam08-5https://vrpgarchive.neocities.org/jam09-5https://vrpgarchive.neocities.org/jam11-5used to have quite a few active devsthen the thread fell to namefags and offsite drama fags
>>3971262Yeah, but they never posted progress, which is why I let them merge with the Dev Thread in the first place. You're welcome~ Look at me, moderating without privileges OR appreciation. It was just maybe a year ago the grifters split off a Dev Thread "without RPG Maker", you got to admire their commitment. I doubt that's a contributing factor. I mean, I post in both. But I'm not the insane board culture ranger obsessed with imaginary perceptions of people I'm accusing of not being here. So.
>>3971376oh man that's an awesome posti wish i understood what any of it meant but it's clear that there's some kind of veil between us that obfuscates all meaning
Don't forget, a lot of those early jams were like 2 weeks. Some were even shorter than that. And everyone has AI now. So they can generate a week's worth of content 20minutes if they wanted. Create fake accounts if they wanted.Commit systems fraud, if they wanted.
>>3971376>It was just maybe a year ago the grifters split off a Dev Thread "without RPG Maker"That happened in 2022 you newfag tourist.
>>3971387no jam>ai jam every day of the week pussyboy
I'm too busy with my side project to jam atm. Also not inspired by the last jam themes, which isn't really the fault of the jam hosts, that's just a me thing.
>>3971392June 2024, ack-tually. But there's only been like 4 threads.
>>3971376I think you should kill yourself
>>3971419No, it was 2022. You weren't there for it.
>obsessed with imaginary perceptions of people I'm accusing of not being here.8 posts ahead of schedule. We're still in a time loop, aren't we? What happens next?
>>3971464You kill yourself.
>>3971464you look at your useless graphic design degree and go back to school
Population collapse. Everyone's been saying China has been lying for years, but now it's undeniable. They said the same thing about RMW, but they still have 8 members online, usually.
Shut the fuck up schizo
Etanara's contest got a nice turn out. Even though they're flagged as a "parody account" on X and prohibited r-18 content.
Everyone is fake and gay. You get used to it.
do you guys see this and say "this is some fucking bum ass rpgmaker game"i swear to god i am not 11 years old btw
another one. let me know if i should give up and go work on an oil rig
>>3972849>>3972851I see progress being made. Keep up the good work.
what about the level 6 combat screen. i tried to make these as visually stimulating as possible without being ugly
also how do you get playtesters for your game without feeling like a predator
>>3972865Don't charge extra for a happy ending.
>>3972865Ask friends.
>>3972865>also how do you get playtesters for your gameHave you considered early access
>>3972865Just post your demo here
>>3972859>>3972865Looks like joels game
How much porn did you generate last night?
https://superpizza.itch.io/crimpo-questthis build is officially 1 year old and i've made so many drastic changes to the integrity of the game to the point where the playtime has doubled and its like going from a comic book to a paperback. expect it to be so shiti cant even fix the bugs on the public version because it would give the player access to so much unfinished dog shit busted content and weird graphics crap with the way development wasnt forked at the time i uploaded it
>>3972999its the reason ive had maybe 7 revisions of the steam store processing stuff
>>3973366Why is it not a demo?
First. You have divine spark within you and bring laughter to the hollow children of chan. Morethan that however, you bring joy back to gaming. I had a list 100+ items on steam wishlist and even longer list of crap i bought and didnt play cuz its.. boring. Do not give up. Do not surrender. Only wai for you to join a rig of oil is if is added to the expanded version, whnich now I will be looking at. Fuck man. You bring hope to the miserable existance that is US gamer. thank you.
>>3971927The thought occurred to me while reading interviews with the creator of WolfRpg editor and One Way Heroics.
>>3973894They published some books too. But Japan is weird and treats books like collectibles. "How to boil water Vol.1">start a fire, >use pages from this book as kindling.>buy Vol.2
>>3973898Just skip to Vol.3 when it gets good
Jam progress?
>>3973983It was up to 4 last I checked.Probably the same people as last time.
>>3973898They treat Game Design and Scenario Writing as different disciplines. Often they categorize RPGs as "ensemble dramas", but defining that particular narrative genre is like defining a "roleplaying" game. Because lost of stories have multiple character perspectives, but not all of them are considered ensembles because the majority of characters don't have a life beyond their support role. The same applies to RPGs. You can have a bunch of characters like a mysterious wander, a robot, a mascot animal. They might have a backstory, but they don't have a life of their own to be seen as a new perspective. They aren't a catalyst for new events. If you have a dog as a party member. Maybe the gameplay switches to them, and they chase a cat into the enemy camp, it's just a framing device so the player can overhear part of their plan. Potentially it can become an ensemble, if the dog steals a loaf of bread. A loaf hiding a key meant for a prisoner to escape - but now they can't. Now there's consequences influencing another character's storyline. Another "loose" definition of ensembles say they have a series of encounters and departures. Lot of RPGs have guest characters. But they're more of a tripping hazard with predictable fates. If there's a level 99 character, it raises a lot of questions like why they aren't the ones fighting the demon lord. If they die or turn out to be a villain, it's kind of predictable.
>>3974696Fire Emblem is a good example of an RPG with lots of characters, that can't be an ensemble because it has a permadeath mechanic. If characters can die at any point in the story, they can't be essential to the plot.
>>3975103>If characters can die at any point in the story, they can't be essential to the plot.>what is morrowind>what is gothic>what is baldur's gate 3if you can't write around essential characters dying, you're a bad writer, simple as.
>>3975155>what is baldur's gate 3*kills Lae’zel in the tutorial*I don’t think they even let her die, I think she’s immortal here*kills Gale*DM flips table and gives you a game over*kills red dragon in act 1*DM says “uhhhh he flies away unharmed and doesn’t die”*kills Emperor*DM flips table and gives you a game over
>>3975155"The question is, which is to be master - that is all."That's not how genres work. But ok.
I suppose you could have characters do the same thing, but rewrite their motivations. Thief kidnaps the princess in Chapter 3. "Because I love her!'>Princess dies in Chapter 1Thief exhumes the princess in Chapter 3. "Because I love her!"
>>3975337lae'zel dying was kind of fuckin impossible to work around on my first playthrough though>get to bridge>dies because i didnt do something right>well if shes dead ill level up and then come around to save her from being dead>10 hours of playtime later>return>cant revive her>played the entirety of the game thinking she could have just died and didnt think anything of it
Speaking of Fire Emblem, there's an archetype character to come out of those games. Where they're strong from the start but they have low growth potential. So you're stunting your other units by using them.
I'm trying to have this NPC move independent of the player without the need to touch the event/NPC, but for some reason Parallel (the first one here) or Autorun triggers cause the character to constantly move in one direction despite the strict Move Route, while Action Button, Event Touch (third) and Player Touch (fourth) function properly. What am I missing here?
>>3975960And the move route itself just in case, I'm using RPG Maker 2003.
someone earlier said the move routes in rm2k3 were broken.
>>3975996I see, I actually managed to figure it out since I made that post at least. I just needed to utilize the 'custom route' that's under the event graphic rather than implementing it using the event commands.
Hey guys, would you be interested in watching me stream /vrpg/ jam games, like at least once or twice a week?I have a new Twitch Channel and youtube. I'll post them here just in case your interested...https://www.youtube.com/@TitaniatheFairyhttps://www.twitch.tv/titania_the_fairyI know it reads Titania the Fairy, but I'm actually Barako the Pirate and I used to post here quite a bit a while back, and have been silently lurking here ever since, due to being a nodev now. Kinda abandoned my old channel on account of the videos kinda being boring to watch and make as myself... PS: (I swear I'm not gay, I just like hearing my voice as a girl, alright? And there's nothing gay about being a girl for your homies... Also not gay if balls don't touch...)I'll be streaming on 8:00am GMT next Sunday, and Monday, (which will be Saturday and Sunday for people living in the US) and will be playing a Bard's Quest and a Bard's Quest 2 on there first, depending on how long they take to play. Maybe other /VRPG/ games if we have time. I'll post times for what games I'm gonna play on my channel's schedule as well...If you're not interested I completely understand, but I figured it'll be fun to play through past entries together, and it'll get you guys more excited about making games for the jams, and encourage more entries in them.
>>3977176Bro what the fuck
>>3977182Lol I know it's weird as shit but I'm sick of no views man, I need to do something interesting to attract more viewers...
>>3977176I cant believe I actually considered posting my game in this thread when it has tranny schizos like this
>>3977192Lol I swear I'm not a tranny, I just like the sound of my own voice while using the voice changer...You gotta have more confidence in yourself man, lol, like who cares who plays your games?
>>3977194Youre a 38 year old trooned out wog from Australia
>>3977198>she doesn't know the first jam thread was on /lgbt/fembrain alert! no curiousity girlmoder pooner over here
Oh god I've probably derailed the thread haven't I? I knew I'd piss some some of you off, but I feel like I've made a mistake... Forget about it, if you don't want me playing your games, that's fine I guess... I just wanted to help, these threads have been so friggin boring lately...>>3977199Also really? Like why though? Wouldn't that be against the board's rules?
>>3977207>Also really? Like why though? Wouldn't that be against the board's rules?Nothing in the rules says pooners can't post here
>>3977211I was referring to the /lgbt/ board and not here... Like why would the the RPG Maker Dev threads start on /lgbt/? Seems kinda unrelated. I get if it's speedrunning or programming, or something more traditionally trans related, but RPG Maker games? Kinda weird...
>>3977187Coyote already married his OC off to someone else. Maybe someone will do something unexpected with yours.
>>3977270Unexpected? Sounds omnious... Hopefully something nice, everyone, please don't bully Titania ;_;...
I don't remember her in Barako the Pirate or Summoner Lisa.Who is she again?
>>3977300She's not from any of my games, I just made her up for a streaming avatar. Also thanks for actually playing my games... Although I'm kinda shit at making them, I've mostly kinda given up on making them...
>>3977176why is she muscular?
>>3977388Because I'm a degenerate lol. I'm not too proud to admit that I'm borderline gay lol, I dig muscles on girls...I removed them in the latest stream though, I wanted to make her appealing to a mainstream audience...
>>3975960>>3975961Auto Start or Parallel Process will force the Event to restart the same move event over and over again.Just change the Event's Movement Type.
>>3977176Honest feedback in the spoilers. It might hurt, so don't check unless you really want it.Your voice changer is bad and hard to understand. Your avatar is amateurish. These are first impressions everyone seeing your channel will think. The VC is harder to understand than your normal voice. I know it's part of your brand to do all your own art, but that's part of your Barako rpgmaker games and channel. Aside from us, nobody looking at this new channel and these new videos is going to know that. If you really want to do vtubing like this and aim for a niche like minor rpgmaker games, then consider commissioning a more professional avatar and turning off the VC or at least setting up a better one.Your personality and attitude and enthusiasm all fine, the problems are all in the presentation.fwiw I hope you keep doing lets plays of these very minor games. Decades ago there was a youtube channel (rpg snapshot) where two former TFS guys did a series of 30 minute lets plays of anything they could find on rpgmaker.net. They never got a lot of views or subs and those videos are long gone now. I miss it and your old channel reminded me a little of that. Maybe find a co-host or something if you're trying to get more views.
May day may day!Unfortunately I might be just as busy this month as last month.
>>3977572Nah that's fine, thanks for the honest feedback... I'm planning on redoing the avatar once I get better at art, I know I'm kinda bad now, but I am getting a bit better day by day. It's fine if people think it's a bit shit now I guess, I kinda agree, but I'd like to keep it. I really don't like professional art, I like outsider, kinda amaturish looking art with a focus on style rather than the more technical but more generic looking art. Although I'm probably alone in that, so I dunno...Yeah the voice changer really varies from video to video... There's all that weird feedback, and for some reason it mispronounces words when I speak sometimes. It also changes depending on the microphone and earphones I use...They're really hard to set up and use, although I seriously doubt it'll change if I use a different one, definitely a skill issue on my part... I feel like I should just keep experimenting with the VC settings before giving it up though, I feel like it's a fairly pleasing voice to hear once it works.I'll think about a co-host, but honestly I'm kinda bad at making friends, and I'll basically have to make my schedule around the other co-host too... So yeah, dunno about that either...Thanks for saying that you want me to continue also! Really means a lot!
barako the faggot
>>3977697anon the dick-sucker
>want to import the new SE from VX Ace and MV back into 2k for my project>open RTP folder>it's all OGG files.fuckkk me it's gonna take an entire day to convert everying.
>>3977176God, I'm getting strong digibro vibes out of this.
>>3978075>not making your own SEs
>>3978075you can't batch convert them all at once using ffmpeg or something?
What's the right approach for a VN-style porn game with life sim elements? 2k3, XP, MZ? I enjoy 2k3 quite a lot, but the limited sprite size is a bit of an issue.Any modern/japanese tilesets you'd recommend? Looking at Neonpixel right now and I can't decide if I like it or hate it.
>>3978096I was going to do that manually but ended up with like 90 files. Ended up using audacity to batch convert.>>3978094rm SEs are the comfiest
>>3978099Pick depending on what canvas size you're the most comfortable drawing in (I assume you'll be drawing the CGs?). 2k3 is 320x240, XP and VX Ace are 640x480. MZ's resolution can be changed to whatever you want I believe.No idea for tilesets, sorry.
>>3977410What OS are you using with rm2k?
>>3978108Linux Mint & Windows 8 on that computer.
>>3978108>>3978124Which rpg makers run on linux? All of them?
>>3978140I run RM2K/3 through Wine. No idea about XP or newer, no interest in those.
>>3978168Never had problems with midi and playtests?
>>3978184Not that I can think of. You gotta install the midi playback stuff first, though, but that's about it. I have no problems with editor or playtesting.
>>3978140Both XP and VX run fine on Linux through Steam but you have to install the respective RTP using the folder of the Proton version you want to use as the wine prefix first.MV and MZ allow you to export games to Linux so I assume it must work on linux fine as well.Unite is just a unity plugin which has a linux native version.
>>3978336Ok. But how does the OS improve your game development? Your workflow? People talk more about supporting linux than they do about game design.
>>3979040Read the rest of the posts, faggot retard
>>3979254Is that going to change your answer? No.
>>3979254*kisses you on the lips*
>>3979273Titania, no! You forgot to turn the stream off. You'll expose The Secret™.
>>3979425It's too late, Mother. I have seen everything.
We need another covid so the threads can be alive again
>>3979800You just need,You just You just need to like,You just You just You just You just need to like, you know? Work on your game.
>no progress postedIt's over
>>3979851I was gonna post a video of Bard's Quest 2 to keep the thread alive, but 4chan has a hard limit of 2 minute videos.Also does anyone have those SV batter sheets with final fantasy record keeper sprites that an anon posted every now and then??
>>3980082Did anon actually post them. I only remember a screenshot of files in a folder.
That's like deploying your game with the player start position on the wrong map.
>>3980082Fuck it, here's a cut down version
Is Isekai worth studying for RPG development? It is amazing how many manga lean into Dragon Quest and Legend of Zelda tropes. >Get the Holy Sword>Defeat the Demon LordThe gameplay objectives are clearly defined, because back in the NES days, there wasn't much room for anything else like interpersonal drama. Coincidentally, I don't see many isekai manga inspired by Final Fantasy tropes, like sentient elemental crystals or killing "god". I'm hesitant to attribute adventuring guilds and class systems to Final Fantasy. Although FFTactics Advanced might as well be called Final Fantasy Isekai. In my opinion, FF plots don't have an obvious story goal in general. It's mainly move from point A to point B. "Stranger of Paradise" was basically an Isekai story too. "Stranger" is a common term in isekai stories for the person(s) from another world. But the game was mainly just a dungeon run. There was no narrative beats within the dungeon itself that changes the story. Like, you just pass through a cave. There's never a cave-in. You don't encounter new characters half-way through. Most isekai manga stories stay close to town-to-dungeon game loops. There's countless encounters with new characters, but they're all just reacting to the MC's advancement, skills, and gears. Like "No way! Something like that exists!? A bag of infinite storage?"And then they entertain thoughts about how those tools could be used in industry.
>>3980212Zelda --> Arthurian NonsenseDragon Quest ... meh- never played it.All I know is that 'slimes as an early common mob' is from that franchise.top-down tile based RPGs were a boom in the early days; think breath of fire and final fantasy for other examples.soulblazer, also very popular, but was brought out later. Completely different setting and gameplay style though. Defeat the Demon Lord is as old as books, tabletop rpgs, and whatnot. Can't blame it on a game even.Every kids show and fantasy world thing has that.>isekai mangaThey're based on phone / gacha games, which themselves are based on MMORPGs-- but then easy mode. For example, they skip the grind, there is more drama and emotion, protagonist has cheats, by default + easy mode, etc.Most multiplayer games use a hub. (lobby system)FFtactics, FFTA, FFTA:GotR and FF12 all play in the world "Ivalice". In FFTA, this is a storybook world. The protagonist gets dragged into it.Arguably, the first popular isekai game maybe Zelda: A link to the Past....more specifically its sequel for the sattela tv, japan only game-A 'hero' from our world, is 'summoned' to the world of 'a link to the past', and needs to become the hero of ligh to defeat the evil wizard.I am not aware of another earlier game that actually made the protag a character from "our 'modern' world", entering a fantasy world.... Secret of Evermore though, a good second contester.Nowadays, games with an isekai character tend to be there as guest / dlc for promotional reasons, and only there for short duration; not part of the main plot + they're overpowered.
FF12 hides the tropes pretty well. There's technically a hunter's guild, but only for side quests.The English version makes Ashe a descendent of the "Dynast King", but in Japanese the word is just "Overlord". Also the power of the stones (Nethicite) isn't explained very well in English. But the power they provide is proportional to the user's desires.IMO, "desire" is the keystone of Japanese dramas. Style-wise, it's like the universe will conspire to make the character's desire significant and consequential. Or there's some Law of Attraction b.s. happeningIn western writing styles, I think desires are the thing to change in a character arc. Or they're used for irony. They get what they want, but not in the way they wanted it. Or they can't get what they want because their life is a lie or something.Btw, the best writing structure for character arcs I've used is the WANT-NEED-LIE-GHOST formula.They WANT one thing, they actually NEED something else.They believe this LIE because of the GHOST of a scar/trauma event in their past.In isekai, characters rarely have a past. They'll have a prologue or start where they are betrayed or "kicked out of the party". It almost follows the formula; but half the time the MC isn't motived by a lie like "I'm not good enough". They're literally left for dead, fighting for their life. You can't frame survival as a "want" -- although in a fantasy world, I guess dying isn't always the end either. There's stories were people comeback as ghosts, zombies, or just reincarnate with their memories for a "second chance".
>>3980212>>3980244>>3980347Amazing how a human managed to imitate ChatGPT so well.
>>3966771RPG maker really just needs a central search function so I can figure out what FUCKMYASS points does.
How can I learn to make games?
>>3980212>Is Isekai worth studying for RPG development?no
>>3980426Just follow the tried and true rule of 1s first game pattern.>1 town>1 dungeon>1 boss>1 party memberThis is worth more than watching a million tutorials on youtube or asking for advice here.
>>3980446Can you elaborate? I've never heard of this pattern, nor how to code or put it in a game
>>3980426Take some things that you liked about games that you have played or take things that you wish that games you played had and try to recreate them.
>>3980465I'm not even to that step yet anon, recreate them in what and with what?
>>3980348More like Youtube's algorithm. I subscribe to a lot of screenwriting and plot analysis channels. Sometimes someone will make a video on a Star Trek Enterprise episode, explaining the themes and bases of inspiration, and I suddenly understand what 10 other shows and 3 games were reaching at. For example, most people think of "Time & Space", but Scifi being a speculative genre will add "& Consciousness" into the mix. Maybe you've heard that you manifest your own reality, but that would be extra true out on the edge of the universe where there's nothing there except this prime Materia waiting to be touched and shaped by your consciousness, like how a dream is shaped by your intuitions. That borders on a meta-narrative construct. Where you and your world are whatever you make of it. In the TV show, Miraculous Ladybug, I didn't understand why there were 2 heroes, the snake and the bunny, that have similar powers to mess with time. But the snake's power of "Second Chance" isn't really meant to change history, it's meant to change yourself. Re:Zero is an Isekai with the same narrative device, but it's a "Return by death" ability. A number of visual novels are built like this, where you'll always hit a bad ending first, and you have to replay other story branches to unlock a new path to a better ending. Of course lots of games have a "retry" ability or a "respawn" point. But only a handful weave that into the narrative.
>>3980462>Can you elaborate? I've never heard of this patternDiablo 1
>>3979851Don't have much time lately but I hope to finish this one.
>he's back
>>3980466You will need a computer and specialized software to do that but let's start with the basics we will start with stone tools and build up from there
>>3980466buy rpg maker 2000
>>3980348It's almost as if ChatGPT is trained on the writings of human
>>3977176aren't you barako the pirate?
>>3980672Does twitch have rules about running multiple accounts? Like Discord?
Only if you're using them to harass people and commit fraud. Like, sock puppet moderators.
>>3980473"Saros" is another game that recently came out. It's similar to Returnal, but people hate it. People call it Cosmic Horror, but it's not. It borrows cosmic horror elements from popular fiction like "the king in yellow" the planet's name is Carcosa. Everyone is going crazy or being "corrupted". First of all, I'd like to say that Youtubers are idiots. They know "The King in Yellow" is a book by Robert Chambers, but they obviously have never read it. Horror, as a genre, is not meant to scare you. It's meant to encapsulate inescapable fates, dread, or inconvenient truths. Cosmic Horror is the idea that humanity is small and insignificant. The analogy often used, compares us to mice living in the walls or under floor boards. It's not a normal habitat. And it's only a matter of time before the legitimate occupants notice.
>>3981077People watched your video, Real-Life-Fake-WIzard. You don't need to shill yourself in \vrpg\.
>>3981147Real-Life-Fake-WIzard called Saros "Feminized Storytelling". What does that even mean? Probably nothing to do the female form, and more to do with feminism. The best point he makes is that Saros is on a planet where everyone is going mad. But the female characters are somehow infallible in every decision they make. This is breaking its own rules. Of course for feminists writing, the goal is to depict female characters with agency. None of that -she turns to her male superior and asks "What do we do now?"- business. Although the idea that storytelling can be feminized or masculine is an interesting concept. What story shapes do they correspond to?
>>3980560I wish I were retarded enough to run executables posted on 4chan to play your games.
>>3981403rpgm games are safu. I've never been worried about running those. Only ever got two false positives and it's always something about the dev fucking with the hex to change the icon of the game or something meaningless like that.Unity and Wolf games are also fine.Other .exes though? I always shit myself a bit ngl
>>3981403these are rpgmaker games, you can just take the project file and run it in the editor yourself, you don't need to launch the executable to run the game
started on an open world Ultima/DQ ripoff recently. the tiles aren't mine, but i made the sprite sheets et al.
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>>3981452
>>3981450>>3981452>>3981454>blurry slush-ass "pixel" fontFix that shit mate, that's terrible.
>>3981612it's sharp. wdym?
Im making cod zombies but javascript is tok hard. I give up
10 more days let's gooo
>>3981612Okay. I swapped out to a chunkier, more true pixel font. opinions?
>>3981696What I'm trying to tell you is that fundamentally, the way pixels are being rendered is really slushy in, what, this must be MV?
>>3981698But the simple fact is that "pixel aesthetic" lives and dies on having sharp, crisp edges. I tire of seeing each new VX/Ace/MV/MZ game coming out trying to cosplay as "pixel" only to look like absolute puke on the screen.I don't know if it's an easy fix or not. I know some people have found ways to deal with it, be it through plugins or other means.I dig the vibe of it, I just don't dig how the technical aspects are killing the vibe.
>>3981699>I tire of seeing each new VX/Ace/MV/MZ game coming out trying to cosplay as "pixel" only to look like absolute puke on the screen.You realize thats the fault of the engine right? Any rpgm game that was made in XP or later versions look blurry in fullscreen, even with extra scripts/plugins
>>3981698if the window is scaled to something that isn't a multiple of 2 of the original resolution, that will happen, even if the original pixels WERE crisp>1017x775This isn't really the fault of the dev beyond he shouldn't have taken a screenshot scaled badly
>>3981450I think i saw you on the RPG Maker subreddit. keep up the good work!
>>3982036thanks!>>3981905yeah, this is the sfont. it looks crystal clear in game, i just took pretty quick and dirty screenshots.
>>3982059no, excuse me. it's this one
Real RPG Maker players keep the original resolution and let Interger Scaler or Lossless Scaling do the job. Set nearest neighbor and 2x as >>3981905 mentioned and you are ready to go.
>>3981699Pixels look fine in VX and VX Ace. It's just that the tiles often get JPEG painted (as if everyone wants to see blending and color bleeding)In case you wonder about the font: it's verdana, windows, meaning- it's not a pixel font. It's also a target for windows' build incleartype function to mess with.It's probably a better idea to draw the text (literally) and show them to the player as if show picture.In case of MV / MZ, it's half a hopeless cause. PixiJS and Chrome have buildin blending that do not obey nearest neighbor.>>3981772XP, VX, and VX Ace use GDI+ Media rendering, meaning; Windows just calls the graphics card and tells it to render a 640x480 window with just the game's display in it at that size. How it scales up depends thus on the GPU. It also decides how it sharpens, stretches, blends, etc. Tweak the settings of your GPU where you can....or use a Fake Full Screen script that just makes the window bigger.MV and MZ use Chrome's building fake full screen, but again- chrome decides. You can tweak it only slightly with a CSS call and such, but you can't escape the blur because its a browser.
i used SRD's Sfonts to make the font look crisp. that's about what can be done in RMMV. any artifacting you're seeing is because of compression from the screenshots/conversion to gifs/compression
>>3982206Well, in that case, you are OK.I only bring it up as a complaint because you still see it all the time where new games come out that want to use the pixel aesthetic/pixel fonts, only to have shit that is scaled incorrectly, blurry as hell, (often just pulling Press Start 2P from Google Fonts and dropping it in haphazardly instead of using it as a true pixel font - same shit you see with crap like FOT Dot Gothic 16).
>>3982375yeah, absolutely. dw, this is like my fifth pixel game, i've got it down atp. this one is the most authentic so far :)also fuck the press start font all my homies hate the press start font
>>3982515It better has chip sound based background music... if you feed that game modern music with tons of instruments and noise, then you'll ruin the soul
>>3982761ofc it won't have orchestral shit. i'm going so far as to remove highlight tint, and occurrences of blur and stuff in MV, and making every map using just B, C, D tiles, working tile by tile like in an older rpgmaker
>>3983104why do all this work if you could've used 2k3 or WOLF?
>>3983159because i wanna use javascript, and mv is the workflow i'm used to
Ok so I’m not making a game for this jam but I figured I’d share this rpg maker 2k3 game I’m working onSo it’s a fanfiction game that at first is meant to look like a poorly made game with shit pixel art, edgy shit and writing that tries to be ironic to hide the creator’s insecurities but further on the game’s art style turns into a slightly high quality pixel art style and becomes a psychological horror game and then later on there’s some 4th wall shitIt sounds ambitious as hell but that’s not stopping me from making it in the first place I dunno what do ya’ll think does the idea of the game sound like shit or not
>>3983250Im gonna steal your idea
>>3983265Eh you can go ahead I don’t really careI highly doubt my own project will get popular enough anyway when it’s finished(Although considering you are gonna steal I’m gonna take that as “the idea sounds interesting” so I’m happy I guess)
>>3983250>what do ya’ll think does the idea of the game sound like shit or notIdeas are worthless until executed.I don't know if it's bad or not because there's nothing to show for it, but I do dislike 4th wall breaking quite a bit in general. 4th wall breaking comes across as way more ironic and insecure than anything else to me.Homestuck isn't an rpg, but it kinda does the idea of "starts off with edgy humor and low production value, grows into high production value with drama". I like early Homestuck more but I don't doubt someone can do this correctly.
>>3983300Ok 2 ideas for 4th wall breaking shit done right in my opinionA) creator is aware there game might be reviewed poorly so there’s dialogue being like “it’s fine to right a bad review of this game I don’t care” (I could’ve sworn a Japanese visual novel game on ps1 did this but I cannot recall the name)B) 4th wall breaking shit is like certain puzzles in oneshot just saying if this game kinda goes in the oneshot direction in terms of 4th walk breaking shit then I’d probably think it’s cool and neat (I dunno about everything else about it tho)
>>3983300>i don't know if it's bad or not because there's nothing to show for itok you want to see some of it ok here's what the main character looks like
and here's what he's meant to look like come the artstyle shift(if any of you can find where's he's from and what his name is i'll show more of it)
>>3983307A is really bad. Really fucking bad. You can be humble about your work without having your characters act embarrassed about what you've made. I have never seen this done well.B on the other hand is amazing when executed right.
>>3983318Ok I kind of see the vision here the detailed pixel art strongly contrasts the sort of poorly made pixel art it’s kinda cool(Why are his eyes smaller tho?)
>>3983348i dunno it looks more uncanny if anything
>>3983307learn to build solid walls before breaking them. Clever deconstruction and other rules breaking is for clever, experienced writers.
>>3983430I feel like if they were more subtle then it’d kinda work imo
>>3979800we need more neets
>Me, when you finally use AI to finish your gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf1DkBQRQj4
>5 day remainingsee (you) space cowboy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUUKsBPtj-g
>>3983318What do ya’ll reckon this thread’ll get archived and we’ll never find out who tf this weird cat furry guy is cuz I don’t lol
>>3984940The screenshot is from 2024. What do ya reckon it doesn't belong to anything and stands alongside all the other unfinished projects in the archives labeled schizo and "snarky"
I've already asked that in the past, but does anyone know of games made in 2k that have good DBS (not CBS!) combat? I'm trying to make something fun with it and while I think it's genuinely possible, I'd like more examples of devs doing a good job with it for reference. So far I've only found Ruina, JJBA 7th stand user, Nephesel, and that one Touhou crpg that make good use of it. There's gotta be more!
>>3985009夏の花火とバリアーズThough, it does a lot of non-standard things via forcing common event calls into battle events which isn't something the stock 2k editor lets you do and depends on external tools or copy+pasting battle event pages from 2k3, so I'd say while it's DBS as far as using the default battle system, it still depends on tricks that make it less "pure"Standout features:>Fixed, predictable action order (Player team always goes first in the order shown on the party list, followed by enemy team)>Front/back row that actually matter not based solely on stats, but also on skill behavior, making it interesting and viable to push an attacker to the very rear position, or a defense-minded character to the very front>Skills are assigned to characters based on equipment pieces that represent each skill, so loadouts matter a lot>There is a good balance of "standard" encounters, "puzzle" encounters with more specific solutions, and "gimmick" encounters that have just a single solution>Good variety of reactive skills such as counterattacks, endure-style abilities, charge-up skills, and others with unique behavior that get the most out of the DBS
When are (You) gonna stop being a nodev and become a yesdev?
>>3985020already yesdev'donly like 2 people played it but it was fun because other people were yesdev'ing toonow nobody wants to yesdev because these threads have gone to utter shit
>>3985020At the rate that I am making progress, maybe in about 3 years at the soonest.
>>3985020
>>3985020Never. Thinking about making games is more fun than actually making games.
>>3984997BruhWelp I guess my interest for whatever game that was is dead now lol
>>3985379I mean, it was low quality bait to begin with. And you were expected someone else to engage for you.
>>3985016Any idea what patch they might've used to modify 2k to this extent? or is it just 2k3 Maniacs with a cbs that emulate's 2k's dbs? looks cool honestly, hope goburinbro translates it [/Spoiler]also>copy+pasting battle event pages from 2k3what the hell? does this actually work? can you do things that stock 2k's battle events can't do this way?
>>3985504shit I didn't mean to spoiler the whole message I'M RETARDED HELP
>>3985487Yeah true guess that's kinda on me i guess all i can do is wait and...oh who the fuck am i kidding yes i'm the dev i get message i'll get off the internet and get back to work now
>>3985509you can always delete your messages.
>>3985216>Western rpgmaker porn dev>Wastes time doing nothing while milking patreon money from guillible idiots>Japanese rpgmaker hentai dev>Posts a demo, fucks off from the face of earth for a year and half and actually delivers a full game
>>3985904So... western devs win.
>>3985915I mean, they make more money so I guess?I'd rather not have to wait 10 year whilw paying 10 dollars every month just for some asshole dev decide abandoning the entire project on a whim tho
>>3985915The paid western RPG Maker games are strictly inferior to free ones that Japanese devs make just for the hell of it.
>>3985992
>>3985993Uhh yeah? Western devs are never gonna make it. Only the japanese are capable of making video games.
If you guys weren't such no-dev bastards we wouldn't have this discussion SHOW. YOUR. PROGRESS. pretty please...
>>3986063I spent 100 hours on a project and now I have to start from scratch because it's shit
>>3986063Uhh maybe next jam :)
>>3986063aight
>>3986073I kneel
>>3986127yeah i hope so. that's the king
>>3986063Process is also an acceptable topic. I don't understand why Final Fantasy now takes 10 years to produce. A solo rm dev that refuses to use AI. No shit. But when everything is outsourced to smaller companies. How? The work is distributed. They have funds. AND, there's nothing stopping them from using AI. So, why?
>>3966771game is looking good so far, development started today. its a new genre called exploitation rpg, but basically you could consider the dooms series to be a precursor to that.
>>3986063Life's been keeping me away from it, but progress is happening. Currently trying to make a text system for my CBS that can have scrolling text and instant text, so I can use this one window to display Skill information when specifically in the Skills menu. It's the first time I'm building a system to run in parallel with my battle system so I'm getting stuck overthinking everything.
>>3986063Making paperdolls for the different character equipment and forms. Nude sprite is censored for blue board.The paperdoll also shows during messages instead of the actor's faceset. I want to extend it to include a full set of expressions but I'm not sure it's a good idea since I didn't intend it at the start. I'm very undisciplined when I don't have any deadlines so it's easy to blow out the scope adding new features and go nowhere.Yes it's all sloppa or free scripts. Battle system is also stock while I get everything else working but I've got minor plans for that too.
>>3986255they need all that time to make a million uncompressed textures in order to bloat the filesize needlessly
>>3986323i really like your art style
>>3986387>.wav>.bmpLet me guess, you think you need more?
>>3985342Shooting heroin while ejaculating and sneezing feels better though
>>3986255When was the last time you played a final fantasy, especially the older ones? I replayed VII last year and it was the first time it felt "quaint" to me. The whole game part felt simpler and far more restrained than I remember it. But it wasn't quaint or simple overall - it was an extremely expensive game to produce back in the 90s, one of the largest dev team at the time, 100s of people, and more than $50 million before even getting to marketing budget.Cut time from the SGI workstation FMVs, that high detail stuff had to be expensive and time consuming, you cut 40 minutes of FMV cutscenes from a 50 hour game. You're still left with prerendered backgrounds and a bunch of 3d models, which every game has these days. Cut those too, just make it a pixel operation like FF 1-6, okay how much of those $50 million have you saved? How much of the 30 months of development have you shortened? Well FFVI took 12 months, 30 people and a couple of million budget, so you can compare that doing it the old way.The main offending culprit is high quality 3d. Choosing to do 3d cost a lot decades ago and it costs a lot now. It's all assets and art production eating time and money in these companies.Love it or hate it, I think one of the reasons for the forced trend of HD2D is to save money. Once you turn off all the filtering and depth of field in a game like Octopath you can spot some really lazy/sloppy practices within the simple 3d models used as backgrounds. z-fighting, shitty uv scaling, unpolished stuff you don't expect a AAA company to do with their 3d but you can't see under all the post processing. it's faster work, and Octopath still took more than 3 years and who knows how much money before the expensive voices.RPGs are just expensive games. Even the old 2d style is millions of dollars and dozens of people.
RPGmaker is so funny.It's so shitty but yet people make such great stuff with it.
>>3986468>it costs a lot nowNo, they voluntarily choose to engage in methods that inflate the cost instead of innovating methods that we know already exist and can lower cost.We don't need to know every atom of that girl's titties can jiggle or to be able to count her teeth when she giggles.
>>3986505It's also irrelevant. Because they have the money. they have the manpower.
>>3986506Costs are already inflating to the point where returns are not achieved to the satisfaction of the shareholders. Cutting pointless fluff like graphics would be the best way to save lots of money on production.
>>3986508>Cutting pointless fluff like graphics would be the best way to save lots of money on production.Ah, the opinion of a shareholder.Why not try cutting the overinflated marketing budgets instead?
Hi bros. I've been making a little game for a month now. I'd like you guys to play and give me your thoughts on it.It's a roguelite like Black Souls 2's Chaos Dungeon and there are currently 14 bosses in it. They appear every 5 floors. I hope you'll like ithttps://litter.catbox.moe/lm4dmk3fda9squ96.zip
>>3986542sex
Congratulations on whoever tricked Steam into removing the Rpgmaker tag. Just because I can't filter them anymore doesn't mean I can't add them to an ignore list.
>>3966771
>>3986672Its shitty porn games isn't it?
>>3986672PornslopCHADs I kneel...
>>3986542looks interesting, might check it out
>>3986496soulful software thats both easy to use and has a +20 year tradition and large repertoire of mostly free games.What's funny is that something like Godot can probably do anything that rpg maker can x10, bit I've yet to see a Godot game thats culturally relevant (yet alone a good game).
>1 dropped outOh no...
I kinda still wanna get it done even if it's too late for the jam, but the fun part is already mostly completed (Art and Writing), so my motivation is quickly running dry.
>>3986736Kek
fooling around with letting the player choose a subclass. your party members are warrior/mage/thief/pilgrim, but your character can eventually add two together, gaining all the skills, equips and a fraction of the stat gains of the added class.Warrior + Thief = BanditWarrior + Mage = SpellbladeWarrior + Pilgrim = KnightThief + Warrior = AssassinThief + Mage = NightbladeThief + Pilgrim = WandererMage + Warrior = BattlemageMage + Thief = HexerMage + Pilgrim = OraclePilgrim + Warrior = PaladinPilgrim + Thief = InquisitorPilgrim + Mage = Sagei think it's a pretty soulful and fun way to give your character some customization while still keeping the game pretty simple and understandable on a mechanical level
Since theres's only 3 people and still nothing on the last day, i'm extending the jam's deadline by an extra 7 days. IDK If that's fine with you all, but i wanna se something outta this jam. You got this partners. Post progress too.
Oh fuck off
uhhhhhhhhh my game jus came out whoopz :)CYBERDELIA MICRO OUT NOW
>>3987134>but i wanna se something outta this jamWhy don't YOU post your game?
Make a better theme for the jam next time and youll have an extra contestant
>>3987286My game has no cowboys...
>make shit jam without the usual rules>force retarded theme>no games as always>extend itsome things never change
>>3987323In my defense, weren't most of the previous jams rules usually just have the theme involved in your game in some way?
>3 participantsPost your games NOW
>>3987323>extend itOH SHIT, I"m jumping back in...
LET'SFUCKINGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>3986542Catbox link died.
>>3987455Sorry about that. Here you go, anon. Includes a 100% meta-progression save file.https://files.catbox.moe/pmji2k.zip
>>3986542What are those glass keys for? And is there some story hidden in it or just pure gameplay?
>>3987483The glass keys are for opening locked doors (like all 5 of them in the entire game) and it's mostly just gameplay. It's about this Cheshire Cat Girl who is bored out her ass so she creates a Chaos Dungeon and kidnap some random soul to be in it. OCFaggotry that only I know about.
step 1: create a jam with the most shit themestep 2: do not make a jam game, ask the community to create the game insteadstep 3: extend the shit jam ad infinitumstep 4: kill the jam threads while spergs blame the muslim and the furryfagPROBLEM?
>>3987522The jam threads were killed because most people came here to get their game played, not play other anon's games.If they did play them, they never postrd their thoughts.Nothing kills a creative's motivation more than showing what they made to an audience who doesn't care.
>>3987485I'm liking it so far, is there any way to upgrade weapons? and are there any OP spells with a low drop rate to find?
https://u2u.rpgmakerofficial.com/en/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53fz8G-6X4E
>>3987676>>3987678Very impressive.
>>3987678I guarantee the eventing system still can't select event page based on specific variable.
>>3987565>If they did play them, they never postrd their thoughts.i reviewed every game in the first year or so of jams
>>3987676Apparently uses Unity again. I thought Unite was a flop? Maybe it's still selling enough to justify them doing another Unity plugin.
>>3987664I'm glad you're enjoying it, anon! Unfortunately there's no way to upgrade weapons yet and the spells all have the same drop rate.
i've got an early pre-demo done. definitely needs some more time in the oven (i don't even have a proper name yet) and might be a bit buggy, but here's the culmination of about 3 weeks work:>https://files.catbox.moe/3h6irx.zipdo tell me what you think, but keep in mind it's a WIP
>>3987678I hate how blurry everything looks.
>>3987747yeah idk why things seem to be scaling bilinearly instead of nearest. it'd look so much better that way
>>3986542you should post your game on rmn.net so the links don't expire again.
>>3986542Having a bit of fun with it. Got the maid character and thought the flashing breasts skill was funny. SPend a bunch of blond on some doll under the ocean and nothing happened though.Also i noticed that you left a Debug skill to instantly kill enemies. Might wanna get that.
A question about AI slop. Why does no one talk about the positive things AI can do? Like everyone talks about using it to make generic art assets and writing wooden flowering game dialog. But yesterday I used it for the first time. I had this huge case study to read for work and it was just a wall of text so as a joke I asked Claude to summarize and it did. It was really generic so I got more specific, asking how the people in the study used X and Y tools to reach their goals and it made a clear 4 bullet list. I thought about how good of a job it did so I asked if it could put together instructions on how to learn to write rpgmaker mv plug ins. That mother fucker actually did.No, its not perfect because one item is to use a Javascript editor, and an editor cant runt rpgmaker plug ins because they really only work in rpgmaker because, well, they are dependent on that environment. But the rest of it was ok.Why dont people talk about using this stuff to search for information foe teaching yourself faster? I'm woukd haven taken me an hour or more to put together what this thing spit out. Sure, some of it wrong, and tou Ave to go through each peice but I was going to do that anyway if I used Google to find and learn things. Why is everyone using thia stuff to generate titties and fire people when its best use is to save time researching somethinf you're working on?
>>3987785>Why does no one talk about the positive things AI can do?Stopped reading here
>>3987777Try interacting with the doll rabbit again. something should happen if you spent more than 1250 blood on it. I left the debug skill in case anyone got stuck :) Hope you'll keep having fun!
>>3987785@grok is this true
>>3987785how do you know claude's summary was accurate if you didn't read the fucking text lmaoyou told it to tell you how the people in the study accomplished x and y, but they might not have even done that, claude just made it up because you told it tojesus christ
>>3988000>how do you know claude's summary was accurate if you didn't read the fucking text lmaoWhy would I ask it to summarize it if I read it?
>post my game>people start arguing about ai insteadok...... sorry...........
>>3987785it's good at writing or patching simple scripts really fast too
How hard would it be to steal the eventing from this game so I could get the "3D" walls working on my RPGmaker maniacs patch project?
>>3988393dude like just use ai bro
>>3988393It's doable but it may take you a few days of work to understand how everything works. + There's probably going to be a ton of comments in moonrunes in the code since its viprpg.My advice is try to copy every line into your project manually one after the other instead of just C/Cing entire events, you'll understand how everything work way better this way even if it's longer.>t. did that but for a 2d platformer section instead
>>3988394AI is absolutely ass garbage for older versions of RPG Maker. Ask it anything and it'll tell you to use commands that don't exist because it cannot comprehend that MV and 2k3 are fundamentally different softwares.
>>3988397AI can make good ruby scripts if they're simple enough. Not sure about java though.
>>39877442000?>>3986542>QTE skills Oh fuck off
>>3987703I think this one works standalone this time?
>>3988426MV
>>3988426Retard alert
>>3988424I was thinking 2k & 2k3 eventing. AI is terrible at it in my experience.
>>3988434You don't need to announce your arrival to everyone
>>3986542So i got back into playing it:Recruited the bunny girl from the underwater area by paying enough blood. She's basically a weaker, but decent attacker with her weapon skills. Speaking of skills, Behead is suprisingly useful because there no cooldown (as far as i know) So enemies will either die instantly, or die after enough uses. Elements don't really help that much with dealing damage, so i pretty much just used skills and weapons that hit multiple times. Also: A rabbit enemy... That dodges nearly all my attacks... and spams behead...I know a Wizardry fan when i see one.Anyway, Im on floor 15 and trying to kill this knight that knows my behead strats right back at me, along side fully heal and full buffing himself. damn.IDK if those locked doors do anything....Also i encountered a crash when i was in battle and Niko attacked an enemy. "stack level too deep".
>>3988424What AI did you use? I tried ChatGPT and gave up because it was too dumb.
>>3988466NTA but I just use chatgpt for ruby scripts. 4o could sorta do it it function-by-function if you held its hand all the way, but gpt-5 onwards is just fine and will only screw up 10-15% of the time. Just remind it "Rpgmaker vx ace script using RGSS3 and ruby 1.9" before it starts so it doesn't try doing more recent ruby. It still will now and then, but if you feed it the error line it will notice it's using the wrong ruby version and get fixed up quick.
>>3988440>I was thinking 2k & 2k3 eventing. AI is terrible at it in my experience.Might be better off not telling it you're doing rpgmaker and just have it reference a ton of events files
>>3988488nta but my experience using AI to help with 2k/3 is often specificlly for math problems with the restriction of not having decimals. It's a niche part of math problems I don't have experience with, so it helps a lot with that.
>>3988488>just have it reference a ton of events fileswdym?
>>3988498Won't some AIs let you tell it to use a folder as a reference?
>tfw Japanese are now slop coding together entire golf games in RPG MakerIt's over.
>>3988511I mean...if thats what they want to do and it gets it made.
for those saying ai is shit with rpg maker:1. stop using free ai2. stop using chatgpt, use claude3. use an agentic harness (claude code)
>>3988464shieet. sorry about the stack level too deep error anon. I've been trying to fix that for god knows how long now. it occur mostly when you have a party member with you with bonus actions.one thing you should know is that guarding makes you immune to 1hko so that might be useful in the fight with roland. also always try to 'break' enemies who are guarding or charging/chanting, it'll leave them vulnerable.also try to debuff the enemy's agility whenever you can with seabeast sword's tentacle barrage or axe's leg chop and buff yourself up, especially with the pills which does not take any action to use.
If it wasn't Memorial Weekend, I'd use AI to generate a Jam game in 3 days handsfree.It still requires at least a few hours of attention I can't spare.
>>3988426You can use the combo skills by just selecting them anon, the combo is just there for some bonus damage.
>>3988511Don't skip the video
>>3988396How would I actually go about opening the project in RPGmaker? I do have the game downloaded but RPGmaker doesn't seem to recognize it, and I do have the maniacs patch.
>>3988619Nevermind, I'm retarded, had to tell the program to open the folder that the game's folder is in rather than the game's folder itself.
>>3988540>stop using free aiI ain't gonna give my money to "them", if you know what I mean.
>>39886202k and 2k3's project explorer is so quirky!It'll let me browse my desktop file through four different inexplicable paths, yet won't let me launch a project from a usb key even tho said key is recognized correctly by windows :^)
*sigh* I didn't mean for this to turn into an AI debate. I brought up AI because I honestly didnt know you could just ask it to make you a ruby study guide or Javascript guide, etc. Everyone always complains about image slop, dialog slop. I didnt know you could use it to speed up learning
>>3988565I'm sure Ai can write a 200pg novel in a weekend. But I don't think I could read it in a weekend.
Should I be expected to support mkxp/mkxp-z?I tried running a VX ACE game with mkxp-z and it had some weird effects. For example, if a project asset shares a filename with a RTP asset, it priorities the RTP version instead of the custom one. If you have a "rat,png" in your battlers, it will always show the RTP "rat.png" instead of the one you drew. It also doesn't do screen transitions properly and very slightly messes up the fonts during messages windows but not in other windows. Idk why. The RTP thing in particular is stupid given that's the opposite way to how the engine is supposed to work.
>>3988464>Also: A rabbit enemy... That dodges nearly all my attacks... and spams behead...>I know a Wizardry fan when i see one.Isn't that a Monty Python reference?
>>3988731Yeah, thats where they got the idea for the Voporal bunny.
>>3988731Monty Python is ancient boomer memes these days.
A couple of people on this board mentioned it, so should I start using wolf rpg editor or vx ace?
>>3988826Wolf.
>>3988826no.
>>3966875RPGM 'dev' is funny like this. A normal developer would just write code that make the game werk how they want, but here people are stuck in this mindset that any kind of 'real' devs tools are impossibly hard to learn to work with, so they make everything harder for themselves by having to learn convoluted 'tricks' to do things that would be simple in any other development environment.
>>3988826Wolf is like 2k3 on steroids, but the big caveat is that there's practically no english ressource about it anywhere on the western internet. Almost no tutorials, no documentation, no graphical ressources, not even forums dedicated to it afaik. There's a reason all the wolf games you see are made by japanese people.Unless you're comfortable browsing the jap internet, or are very confident in your ability to figure out everything on your own without help, I'd recommend against using it (it's a shame cause I do think it looks neat and has some cool little tricks like the custom hitbox for events)VXA has +15 years of ressources, tutorials and scripts available, plus a far bigger catalogue of games. It'd way more comfortable to use if it's your first maker.
>>3988834Just looking at the UI for wolf, I really doubt I can figure it out on my own. If it was as simple looking as Ace seems to be I might choose it, but no dice it seems
>>3988767Nigga they literally just released MTG cards that refer to it last year.
>>3988830>just write your own engine anon>just use a bloated engine like Unity to make a simple 2D game, anon>just use generic ugly Unity assets, anonEvery thread
>>3988826>A couple of people on this board mentioned it, so should I start using wolf rpg editor or vx ace?Depends how much VX Ace already does what you want to do. Also depends on how much frustration you want to deal with on trying to translate and use japanese resources vs using english resources to make things in Ace.There is a certain kind of autism around rpg maker where people will do 6 months of work either using another engine or building a game from scratch just tl avoid 3 or 4 days of work in forcing rpgmaker to do that one extra thing you want.
>>3988914yeah now put your thinking cap on and try to remember who the audience for mtg is
>>3989050Jewish Asians?
>>3989073boomers you nincompoop
i decided to call my NES-like project Astral Kingdom, and made this titlescreen with assets and fonts i had lying around
>>3989116Text reminds me of early 90s PC games
>>3989116cool and same as 117
>>3989117>>3989119thank you. i'm trying to evoke ultima or something. like an early derivative of ultima and dragon quest
i switched to an stb battle system from ATB and it immediately feels better. way more old school methodical, too. i'm kinda proud of the little final fantasy legend-like boxes holding the sprites
Did I shoot myself in the foot by having my first game project be huge? I want to make game that takes at least a 100 hours to fully complete.
>>3989296yeah probably. i would suggest making a game with like 3 towns and 5 dungeons at most for your first game. once you have something out, you'll actually be able to follow a larger project through.
>>3989301I'll make a short game for the next jam, this one ends in 2 days right
>>3989310The theme for the next jam will be "Penis". "Reincarnated in another world, but the first thing I saw was my papa's weewee; can my harem of psychoanalysts fix my castration anxiety?"
>>3989422Nigga I aint about that gay shit nigga
>>3986736>bit I've yet to see a Godot game thats ... a good gameYou didn't think Isekai Madness 4 was good?
>>3985020right now
>>3989640Post progress
>dropped down to 3 participants again
>>3989650You had your chance.
Is there a good grid template to use in GIMP to draw my tiles and tilesets?
>>3989705>GIMPlol, lmao if you don't use mspaint
>>3989705It's under Menu Image > Configure Grid.Then under Menu View > Check "Show Grid" and "Snap to Grid" if you like.
>>3989706Aseprite is free
>>3989712But not good for hand painted tiles.
>>3989709Thanks friend
>>3989712for me to fucking poop onworst god damn program i've ever used, pure fucking cbt
>>3989729Aseprite is really good at a few specific thingsMy favorite being mass image generation from frames with incrementing filenames, which is only situationally useful unless you're going old school with 2k, but it's still something.
>>3989729aseprite is fantastic I don't know what you're on.>>3989705seconding >>3989712 it has a built in toggable grid that you can freely customize the size of.Only thing it's lacking right now is a good free transform tool for applying selections to an element in perspective (e.g. a sign on a wall on your battle background). Unless there's a way to do this that I'm not aware of? Cause the tool with the two arrows isn't exactly good at doing this specific thing.
>>3989739if you use it for animating things it is pure fucking torture
>>3989705Just use KritaIt's free, it's heaps better for drawing than GIMP, leave that for photo editing
>>3989741idk, I only ever do walk cycles as far as animations go, I think it's fine. I just use the arrows to navigate through frames manually instead of having the thing play automatically.
rpgmaker games without booba, who realistically is going to play this?
>>3989746People with IQs higher than 70
>>3989753it's a genuine question, you think that the average person with an IQ over 70 is going to play something like this?>>3967752>>3966875
>>3989754>you think that the average person with an IQ over 70 is going to play something like this?Where d'you think yer postin', pardner?
My IQ is 150 and I play rpgm games without booba.
>>3989760that's why I'm here, I think you guys are wasting your lives away. or maybe I'm wrong, maybe this is really big with the higher than 70 IQ market.
>>3989763The trouble with RPGM porn games is that it attracts the 70 IQ audience and makes them feel like they're the 120 IQ audience. This is the only possible way to explain why Black Sludge/Shitquel/Monster Grill Sloppadox/Karryn's Prison/countless others have people who unironically try to tell you their garbage games have better stories and gameplay than proper, mainstream RPGs aimed at general audiences.Imagine if someone tried to convince you that a porn movie had better acting and writing than even a 7/10 mainstream Hollywood flick. You'd laugh them out of your sight and tell them never to speak to you again.
WelpLast day of jam, back to 3 people with 0 entries.Man.
>>3989766I get what you're saying, and I'm not really advocating for h-games here. I'm just saying that I don't think there's any real pull towards rpgm anymore. At least with h-games you'll have the dead beat sub 70 IQ audience, but I just don't see people playing these cookie cutter rpgs with assets and an engine that is 20-30 years old.
>>3989767you guys need to stop doing jams back to back, most people would probably rather be working on their own projects than do jams every other week. Maybe cut it down to 1 or 2 a year or something?
>>3989766Why did you become such an asshole over the years?>7/10 mainstream Hollywood flick.Hollywood doesn't make anything above 0/10
>>3989766>Imagine if someone tried to convince you that a porn movie had better acting and writing than even a 7/10 mainstream Hollywood flick.Nah, I've never even heard of a porn movie with a plot that isn't superficial window dressing. A better comparison is some chick telling you 50 Shades of Grey is good writing. That movie was 100 minutes long, 20 minutes of which were sex scenes including BDSM etc. I haven't read the book but I bet it's a similar ratio. The coomer gamer has the same mindset. A porn game might be good, but it might not be. Maybe the story/gameplay is objectively bad but you can't tell because a quarter of the playtime is literal sex scenes distracting your emotions. If you know what you're getting into that's fine too.
i was right to avoid the jam games, yall are larp larp larp sahurs who have never seen videodrome
>>3989768Rpg maker is timeless, just dont use default rtp or popular tilesets
>>3989805yet people desperately try to hide the engine their game is built in
>>3989809Some people aim to be different. To stand out. Other people aim to blend in, to be so compatible with the RTP that nobody notices it's not the RTP. That was before AI though.
>>3989705use libresprite. it's literally free asperite
workig on my world map and encounters. my hand hurts ngl
So if a jam has no games, does the next jam essentially take it's place? >>3989843NIce map.
>>3989845thank you! the lower half is still a bit of a draft, but i've been placing airship only areas i'll be fleshong out later
I don't like Aseprite. It doesn't show the walking animation like iDraw 3 does. I have to shove up my ass the rpg maker charaset sheet, draw it in a different format, and then put it all back with rpg maker sheet.Aseprite is gay.
>>3989853it's 3 frames per direction and they're all placed the exact same every time. why do you need it to animate like that?
>>3989845number wise, I don't think we count it. But it got a little screwy once before when we had 2 jams at once. I think we've had jams with no games before too. I just don't remember what they where. I want to say a cowboy theme failed once before. But I could be remembering the /vg/ era.
rpgm resurgence with u2u surely...
>>3989859lol, lmao even
I'm certain I only play RM jam games on itch anyways. I do not play horror games, and I've maybe downloaded 1 free tileset. So it's funny that the suggested thumbnails are all horror games and assets, but the tags are completely unrelated. "Gay, Furry, NSFW, Adult, Erotic. PORN. PLAY PORN!" I made a post about this last year. And play a bunch of casual shit just to prove it's not actually tracking my history at all.
I believe the tag list rotates, and there's not a lot of variety to rm games in the first place. So there's no specificity beyond "fantasy rpg". So there's more nsfw and lgbt tags out there, and nobody labels their game with "vanilla SFW straight cis protagonist"
>>3986299Okay well I was an idiot and didn't need to have it running in parallel. I'm far enough along now that I want to focus on the presentation, because I'm oddly embarrassed by all the placeholder graphics. That may take a while since I'm not a very good pixel artist.
>>3989885this is looking really nice so far! even just the font and gradient on the windowskin
>>3988677You can set its behavior in the mkxp.json.You can also set "patches": to somethingAlso you can complain about it on their github.
>>3989887Thanks anon, though the windowskin isn't exactly original. It's repurposed from Chrono Trigger, but it was slightly edited.
>>3966771>reddit drama (see image)Does sigmasuccour even still visit this place? I mean I haven't seen them post even once for, idk how many of these threads.Also, someone asks for help; redditor immediately get distracted by internal rage towards another person -- its unfortunate that this figure also visits 4chan.
>>3989904i'm one of the people he used dialogue from and killed with a katana in my game AMA
>>3989905>in my game*in his game
>>3989904>given that he seems to largely frequent 4chan now I can't imagine he's ever going to get much betterthat flamboyant faggot just called us all "abnormal"! How does this make you feel?
>>3989909i think it just shows how naive they are and how people still believe the "le evil nazis on 4chan" shit despite the fact that some of the people who fought against him are literally people who use this site and thread
>>3989910The real irony is this place has become significantly tamer and saner over the last few years, while the rest of the internet (and people in general) are getting increasingly more vindicative and politically-obsessed.
just dropped a little (actual) demo of my game :)please check it out: >https://morso-irl.itch.io/astral-kingdom-demo
>>3989845>>3989857I'm gonna finish this game even though I only started working on it 12 hours ago (plus I slept). So there will be at least 1 this time. There's still time for a quick short game if any anons want to try.
>Iowacorn is backI kneel...
>>3989908
>>3989976yeah you got me. i'm sigma. something something mother's miscarriage blaaahhh i crazy now
>>3989905Why did you come here with your off topic drama and kill what was once a small community of yesdevs?
>>3989984i didn't bring it up and never have besides now. all thread i've been posting about my game and nothing else kekw
>>3989988You can say anything while anonymous.
>>3989993then why ask? i mean go ahead and reply to posts about Astral Kingdom, my 8-bit game, and i'll show you how they say "(You)" if that's what you want
>>3989994I don't care about games made by dramafags.
>>3989996then stop causing drama xoxoxo
>>3989996ignore him, he is literally a tranny
>>3990011trannies....... LE BAD!
>>3990013Trannies are epsteiny though
>>3990015the modern wave of anti-trans news was spurred by epstein and the epstein class to disenfranchise trans women and make them more likely to fall victim to sex trafficking. one of epstein's first whistleblowers was a trans woman.eitrher way, this is an rpgmaker thread and we're offtopic, and no matter who says what i'll be blamed for "causing drama", despite the fact that people are arguing at me and i'm simply defending myself, so there's really no point in me correcting you. but read the files, it's all in there
>>3990019Is that why he funded transgender surgery? To epically own the trannies?
>>3989770i've said many times we need to adopt the vip style of "3 big festivals per year" where everyone just uploads what they've been working on but that ship has long since sailed now that these threads are schizo breeding grounds and no devs
>>3990025Was there a time period this general had no schizos?
>>3990024are you genuinely retarded? if he wanted tranny sex slaves there had to be people transitioning
>>3990026yes the first year or so when we just had our jams and made games and had fun
>>3990019You said "ama" over drama nobody here knew you were in, you should've said "I'm the dev of Astral Whatever, ama" instead
>>3990027Okay? That doesn't invalidate my point.
>epstein mentioned in the jam thread with 0 ctrl f results for scooby doo zTHE THREAD HAS FALLENBILLIONS MUST RUIN CHRISTMAS
>>3990029i mean sure. someone else was talking about it so i thought i'd hop in because like. i was there and thought it was funny. wish i hadn't now.>>3990030he wasn't pro-trans. epstein was a sick chaser who also ate babies and shit. but again this is an rpgmaker thread, so why not post your game instead of this shit?
>>3990031oh you mean kino of the highest order?
>>3990032You're the one trying to make a point post your own game chud
stop replying you fucking retardsgod i hate when i come to these threads and see 50 new posts because i know it's just a bunch of idiots gobbling each others' cocks for (you)sSHUT THE FUCK UP
>>3990035The yesdevs from before 2025 are gone. Just enjoy the shit show
>>3990034i have>>3989918>>3989843>>3989144>>3989116>>3987744>3987132>3986073>3983171>3983104>3982515>3982206>3981696>3981618>3981454>3981452>3981450and i've also been replying to people's posts and trying to engage. what have you done other than. whatever it is you're doing? post game or gtfo faggot
>>3990036no, faggotif the threads are dead then let them fucking diestop using this as your shitting ground>>3990037STOP REPLYING YOU FUCKING RETARD
>>3990037Doesn't count cause 8 bit games are too epsteiny
>>3990038then why even bother making new jams and posting new generals
>>3990032>>3990031>>3990040Epstein did nothing wrong (except kill Shaggy and steal Grandpa Scoob's 4-star ball).
>>3990038>STOP REPLYING YOU FUCKING RETARDyeah, you're right
>>3990041these threads should stop being made periodtired of my old home being a breeding ground for this shiti thought it'd get better after ligma finally fucked off but my mistake
sorry im from the "hentai shoukan gaki slime iversion forest: if sleepless jet reveries ruined billy and barako's isekai christmas" universe
>>3990038Would you rather have rpgmaker dev threads to never be created again or have schizos keeping the general alive
>>3990044I know what it feels like, but in the nature of the internet what was once special gets bastardized and ruined by secondaries.
>troon ruining the thread>BUT THE LIGMA>KILL RM DEV THREADSNo, kick this idiot out of the thread. Ignore him until he starts sucking his own balls out of boredom. Hate him as you hate ligma.
>>3990048i don't think it was the tranny who was ruining the thread anon, as shocking as that is
I dont know who is who in this thread this board would be easier to use if it had poster IDs
>>3990050it's ok. just post game progress and comment on other people's game progress
>actual devs fw witnessing today's insane melty on the thread
>>3990045can you take me back with you when you go
>>3990045>minkulus vanished into the ether, never to continue the longest running series in vrpg history>ojosama fucked off to other sites after retinacyst showed up>iowacorn comes and goes, mostly the latter>goblinchump would rather LARP as a fanfictionslator than be a yesdev>maldon gave up isekai madness to make an early access, cancelled porn game, never to be seen again>flyingyemonster dropped 2 yoshi's island looking bombs, then disappeared in a puff of smoke>sapphidoll made a couple of neat original games, then fell for fangame slopThe fact is that the thread's problems, while easy to pin on a few retards showing up to try and pull a "big fish in a small pond" thing, was already getting worse as the original dev cohort started going their separate ways.
>>3990070did u rike their games
>>3990070>flyingyemonster dropped 2 yoshi's island looking bombsas in platformers made with rm? if yes post them please, these are always super interesting to check out.
>>3990076Just referring to the art style. They're normal jarpigs.
>>3990084that's so cute and stylish, damn
>>3990084Oh okay, still looks really neat indeed.
https://iowacorn.itch.io/tommys-last-standFinished my game. I made a few sprites weeks ago but abandoned it until last night. Hope anons have fun, it's a quick flash game-esque dodge the enemy like some other games I made.https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=T50dMsF8guE
>>3990094The game that saved the thread but I dont have the motor skills to play it proper.
