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I do not care for tactical rpgs
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The thing is you have to ease into SPRGS
>Hated FFT when I played it initially
Lack of towns and only having battles put me off in my preteen years, I only got to chapter one and dropped it for Lunar.
>Play Arc the Lad Collection
>Play FFTA
>Return to Tactics and I love it
>Get hooked on SRPGS and play the NIS series and Growlanser series as the years pass.
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>>3991143
I do not care for action rpgs
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>>3991143
I don't believe you.
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>>3991143
I too do not like them. I feel like the tactical elements get in the way of the RPG elements and vice versa. I know that positioning is a good way to add depth at a certain point it just becomes everything.
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>>3991143
They're hit or miss. Get it? But seriously they can be great in a moment, and not quite in the next.
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>>3991143
That's okay. The most important thing in RPGs is choices and consequences.
You do not like them, that is okay. Therefore, you are gay. That is the consequence.
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>>3991253
You're right, I have never heard a gay say "I care for tactical RPGs". I always thought that was sus
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Tactical RPGs are peak when done well. Problem is some of them tend to have awful pacing.
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>>3991259
Weird. I've only ever heard gays say that.
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>>3991262
That gave me an idea: two opposed factions, both gay, but disagree on caring about tactical RPGs. With high enough speech skill, low disarray score, and leaving a certain NPC alive, you can convince them that being gay is more important than preferences on video games.
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>>3991143
That's ok. They do not care for you either.
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I hate the whole "you HAVE TO spread out your exp well or you can be fucked" thing. Especially in no grind games
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>>3991310
Fire Emblem and Symphony of War both make use of rubberband exp formulae, so that feeling is self-inflicted.
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>>3991310
Name 1 game where this is true.
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>>3991310
>you HAVE TO use your army well
Based, brainlets get filtered
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>>3991263
Wait a minute... that's just /v/!
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>>3991146
Whats a good SRPG?
I only ever played FE and i liked it but i dont like how leveling works in those games
They kinda force you to use your best units since only units who participate in battle get exp and so you just snowball and only use the units that are already good while the mediocore ones stay behind and age badly
I also dont like how permadeath can ruin your entire playthrough if you lose a good unit since you usually get only 1 tank or 1 or 2 cavalier units and if those guys die then youre entire team is basically fucked
It encourages you to cheese the game and play it as safe as possible without trying any risky plays
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>>3991497
JA2, or if you want a jap one, Front Mission 5
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I like replaying FFTactics.
I've played a few Disgaea games, but they're all kind of the same.

I played the demo for Kemco's Cross Tails and was not impressed.
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>>3991449
>Wait a minute... that's just /v/!
Yes, and that is how /vrpg/ was born.
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>>3991143
They are too slow and prone to snowballing. Most of the time there's a clear point where you can't lose but are expected to waste time cleaning up
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>>3991497
Troubleshooter: Abandoned Children is one of the best SRPGs of all time. Has a pretty slow-paced start but it gets better.
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>>3991504
>I played the demo for Kemco's Cross Tails and was not impressed.
I mean you should've always expected mediocrity from Kemco..
Together with the devs of Mercenaries Saga they are two cheeks of the same arse.
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>>3991497
I like permadeath, I want semi-realistic mechanics in my RPGs
>It encourages you to cheese the game and play it as safe as possible without trying any risky plays
Hey it's basically simulated warfare, every leader tries to minimize casualties. That's why FE is rather grounded compared to other JRPGs
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>>3991585
Permadeath is great until it isn't in FE. In the games designed for Permadeath it's really fun and a great way to play if you keep yourself honest. In later ones like 3 houses it's not built around the mechanic so it just feels like it's there to be there.
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>>3991497
You are supposed to have units die in Fire Emblem. This is why crits do high damage, some games have gaiden chapters based on units lost, etc.
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>>3991588
>Permadeath is great until it isn't in FE
Not really, BBros and DD got permadeath just fine.
Hating permadeath is just OCD.
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cont.>>3991596
Sorry I think I misread the post.
But I don't think permadeath ever fails in FE.
I do think they should make dead characters play more part in the story though.
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>>3991598
In Reclass Emblem it's entirely pointless. Everyone can do everything so a permanent death is easily made up for, and in 3H specifically you just don't get units in the 2nd half of the game so if you lose one you're just done. The older ones were built around expecting you to lose units and getting makeup ones later. Maybe they're not quite as good, but they're usually comparable.
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>>3991351
Age of decadence
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>>3991642
Permadeath isn't exactly a system to punish anything, it's just for realism. So I don't agree that because "people can just do this instead to bypass the system" it doesn't work as a mechanic.
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>>3991143
They could be good but they all suck for some reason. I think Japs just don't know how to make them, all the good /vst/ games are western
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>>3991679
Wait I just remembered Shining Force, those are good, the early ones anyway
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>>3991679
>could be good but they all suck
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>>3991681
I think he means that they have the potential to be good but aren't.

Stupid take though.
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>>3991143
>>3991679
Play Reverse Collapse Codename Bakery and then get back to me.
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>>3991497
> Whats a good SRPG?
Like I said
>Arc the Lad Collection
PLAY WITH A GUIDE. It's from that era they were trying to sell them. You will miss out on secret quests, one time items

One is a prologue to two, it starts off a little slow; but it picks up.

>FFTA
It's much easier than Tactics, but it will get you into it

>FFT
Watch HCBailly's let's play, he really breaks everything down and makes it much more accessible


>NIS series
play in order
>rhapsody
>la pucelle
play the psp version or PC
>disgaea
pc or psp
>phantom brave
pc or wii
>Makai kingdom
psp
>disgaea 2
\pc or psp
>prinny can I be the hero?
>soul nomad
>disgaea 3
Vita version or PC
>prinny can I be the hero? 2
>Zettai hero project
>disgaea 4
>disgaea D2
>disgaea 5

Quality of life makes it hard to return to other games after the fact. Also story.
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>>3991497
cont. from >>3991706

>I only ever played FE
Daq are you doing playing Fire Emblem first?!
That's pro-shit, put that down. Of course you aren't going to like SRPGS playing that first.
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>>3991146
Shining force?
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>>3991143
Do they insist upon themselves?



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