4 person battle systems are a sign of a stagnant jrpg, what games besides Suikoden SaGa and Etrian use a "more than 4" party system?
Here’s a large cross-platform list of RPGs where the active party size is greater than 4Baldur's Gate — up to 6 charactersBaldur's Gate II: Shadows of AmnIcewind DaleIcewind Dale IIPlanescape: TormentPillars of EternityPillars of Eternity II: DeadfirePathfinder: KingmakerPathfinder: Wrath of the RighteousTyrannyTemple of Elemental EvilSolasta: Crown of the MagisterArcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick ObscuraWasteland 2Wasteland 3Expeditions: RomeExpeditions: VikingBlack Geyser: Couriers of DarknessSuikodenSuikoden IISuikoden IIISuikoden IVSuikoden VEiyuden Chronicle: Hundred HeroesChrono CrossFinal Fantasy IVFinal Fantasy VIFinal Fantasy TacticsTactics Ogre: Let Us Cling TogetherTactics Ogre: RebornOgre Battle: March of the Black QueenOgre Battle 64: Person of Lordly CaliberRadiata StoriesThe Last RemnantDragon Quest IVDragon Quest VDragon Quest VIIDragon Quest VIIIPersona 2: Innocent SinPersona 2: Eternal PunishmentBreath of Fire IVShining ForceShining Force IIShining Force IIIFire Emblem: Three HousesFire Emblem AwakeningFire Emblem Radiant DawnTriangle StrategyFell Seal: Arbiter's MarkDisgaeaDisgaea 2Disgaea 5Disgaea 7Phantom BraveMakai KingdomValkyria ChroniclesValkyria Chronicles 4Troubleshooter: Abandoned ChildrenJagged Alliance 3Wizardry 8Wizardry: Tale of the Forsaken LandMight and Magic VI: The Mandate of HeavenMight and Magic VII: For Blood and HonorLegend of GrimrockElminage OriginalStranger of Sword CityOperation Abyss: New Tokyo LegacyLabyrinth of Refrain: Coven of DuskLabyrinth of Galleria: The Moon SocietyDungeon SiegeDungeon Siege IIDungeon Siege IIIDrakensangDrakensang: The River of TimeAvernum: Escape From the PitAvernum 2: Crystal SoulsAvernum 3: Ruined WorldGeneforge 2 - InfestationDivinity: Original SinDivinity: Original Sin 2Suikoden TierkreisSuikoden TacticsEiyuden Chronicle: RisingRadiata StoriesAzure DreamsUnicorn OverlordSoul Nomad & the World Eaters
>>3993215Non-ChatGPT answer: Xenoblade 3.Technically 2 too, but I feel like its cheating.
Oh yeah, if "swapping party members on the fly" count, then BoF4 and FFX.
>>3993219Chrono Cross and Final Fantasy VI huh? How?
>>3993270You think a LLM would do that? Just go onto the internet and lie to people?
>>3993219>Dragon Quest IV>Dragon Quest V>Dragon Quest VII>Dragon Quest VIII4 people in a battle in these games. Fuck off with that bait list
>>3993215That's pretty common in dungeon crawlers in general. Wizardry: Tale of the Forsaken Land, Dungeon Travelers 2, Demon Gaze, Elminage Original, Metro Quester, etc. The majority of SRPGs also qualify.So far as "traditional" JRPGs go, there's also Lufia: The Legend Returns.
>>3993215FF4 had five person parties and it worked pretty well.
>>3993215Frankly, most JRPGs don't need more. Suikoden is the exception because you get ~70 combat characters in every game. Considering you're stuck with MC that gives you five slots to play around.
>>3993294It's also important most of those let you CREATE characters.
>>3993215The Last Remnant.
>>3993215>4 person battle systems are a sign of a stagnant jrpgNot really.
>>3993270apparently it listed party as opposed to active party
>>3993283It's 3 characters in Dragon Quest V.
>>39934374 active party members in DQ5https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dBbD9nbnVs
>>3993219>Here’s a large cross-platform list of RPGs where the active party size is greater than 4>Final Fantasy VIAI moment
>>3993439That is not the real version of the game.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2RcEbAdZ-4
Final Fantasy VI, The Genius of Sappheiros, and Tecmo's Secret of the Stars are the only games that have you use more than one party? Even if it is in a particular dungeon? Trails in the Sky 1st Chapter does something similar at one point if remember but you cannot switch parties whenever you want.
>>3993215Star Ocean 5, seven person combat partyLufia III: The Legend Returns, nine (9) person combat party
>>3993780Trails trough Reverie has 3 different parties for most of the game.
>>3993219Why even post? Fuck off
>>3993219You forgot Phantasy Star IV which is the only one I actually know about
>>3993874"you"that is some GenAI bullshit list that was wrong on several games
>>3993780>>3993798Just remembered that Anachronox does it in the final dungeon
Octopath 0 has a 35 man battle and it is gloriousand retarded and over too soonparty is usually 8 niggas in 2 columns
Last Remnant is max 25 right?
>>3993780There are a few Trails games that have dungeons where you switch between different parties. For non-Trails games though, Tales of Graces has a dungeon where your party gets separated and you switch between them.
>>3994008story wise, its a hype momentgameplay wise, its a mess. Especially when I didn't gear anyone beyond my main 8
>4 personGarbage>3 personKino
Suikoden has potential for kino 6v6 fights, sadly the bosses are mostly just 1 big forgettable monstersI dunno if this was different in III-V, only played I&II though
>>3994703sadly
>>3994734Both games have shit bosses?
Even the classic Tactics Ogre of 1995 from the Snes/PSX have parties of up to 10 characters
>>3995495Obviously ai. I doubt the feathers from the dragoon originate from the visor.
>>3995532This pic looks like it has a weird filter over the original character portraits
>>3995495Shining Force lets you field up to 12 units.
>>3995676It's better than to, isn't it? Haven't played it, expecting the king of tactics games.
4 is the sweet spot for a manageable party size while still giving enough room for the player to experiment.6+ is too much and borders into RTS territory if the game is real time.
>>3993219IIRC, Radiata Stories only go up to 3 party members. I also found picrel as possible supporting evidence
>>3993215In Zoids Legacy (a.k.a. Zoids Saga 2) for the GBA, you can have up to 6 depending on the size of the Zoids in your field.
>>3993219I especially like how you bypassed the captcha which is meant to prevent robotslop just to knowingly post robotslop
>>3995680>It's better than to, isn't it?No not really
>>3993317Stranger of Sword City was such a kusoge but I had fun with it. Really shitty mechanics. The art and music carried it hard.
>>4001764>Stranger of Sword City was such a kusogeI wouldn't say that. It's just DRPG competition is fucking intense and why settle for less?
>>3993283you can swap active party mid battle in most dq games.in the case of viii only the remake has more than 4 party members though it does have in-battle swapping and it is very helpful in the post-game
>>3993219>Avernum: Escape From the Pit>Avernum 2: Crystal Souls>Avernum 3: Ruined WorldYou're probably talking about the original ones, Exile: Escape from the Pit, Exile 2: Crystal Souls, and Exile III: Ruined World.In the remakes, a.k.a. Avernum, you can only have up to 4 party members.>Divinity: Original Sin>Divinity: Original Sin 2Maybe you're thinking of pets-type of characters and summons but you can only have up to 4 PC in the party for D:OS games.You literally need to drop someone at a base before you could pick up a new person (if at all available in the current zone/region you're in).However, there are some instances where you can cheese enemies for them to end up fighting NPCs but that doesn't count as having more than 4 party members.
>>4003658its an AI slop list that has games where there are more than 4 party members but can only have 4 in the active party at the time
