Don't be deceived by surface-thin loveBelieve only in true love
>>3994351Yes. But does the name have some form of meaning, or is it just random?
reminder that leaf is bad at vidya
>>3994353Could be this, it makes sense in context or it could be something from the Grimm brother's biography.
>>3994355As oppose to good at something else?
>>3994359
>>3994359She's good mermaid feed
>>3994353>>3994356I was kidding. She's not Albanian or Greek. It's possible that her name is derived from this guy https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_R%C3%B6lleke, but other than that I didn't hear any other plausible explanation.
>>3994373HEINZ-SAMAAAA!
>>3994375
>>3994360Answer the question.>>3994370Leaf is the best NPC to feed to Little Mermaid.That sure is a specific category. A bit below Creator of the hottest shit since I-don't-know-what.
>>3994356>>3994373Hm, a big too old for it to be her.It honestly add credence to it being her real name, or name randomly given to her in story, because it's so out of nowhere, there's not much possibilities.Be good to your Leke, guys.
>>3994379Please come back for Black Souls 3!
143 Alice so much the devil may cry™
>>3994379>that norwoodHein...
>>3994352Rereposting because the thread in which I posted it died 1 post later, and the older BS thread an Anon reposted it in already died.https://gitgud.io/CrazzeNerdTL/medical-practitioner-of-armiosionContext: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvIcvsKd9VA
>>3994435That's my boy.
What happened to Leaf?
>>3994445That's not Leaf, that's her sister!
>>3994451her sister Feal
>>3994456Feeru!
Just posting to say that I love my wife
>>3994353Where is the name mentioned anyway?
>>3994466Elizabeth fight in BS1 if you fuck up, and bring Red Hood.
>>3994464>updated sprites "for work purposes"They'll appear in DRH?
>>3994476Huh?
>>3994477https://x.com/toro_yori_ebi/status/2061770275516219813
>>3994476I hope nothing bad happens to Jeanne...
>>3994478Don't have an account.
>>3994480
>>3994481UuuuuuuuuuuOooooh!
>>3994480>2012+14>not knowing about Nitter and its derivatives
>>3994485Yessir!
>>3994483>>3994481Also someone made the comparison>inb4 SOVLLESS vs SOVL
>>3994487all three an improvement except billy, I liked the old one more, he has a different expression now
>>3994487No. Soul is still there no matter what, but now there's a clear improvements on top.You can get SOVL and still be good guys.>>3994488I disagree, but not for what you think. Bill now look more feminine, and his mouth being wide open was a bit silly.
Sorry about the mess, mixed version
>>3994488Bill is the biggest improvement, old head was too big. Only one I question is Jeanne; new one's obviously better but it's the most different too.Dorothy looks more like a cougar which is appropriate I guess. >>3994476That would make sense since Red and Node canonically met before BS2 and the BS1 girls could appear in flashbacks but I have no idea why Bill would be there too.
>>3994493Annd tribute
>>3994493>>3994495Cute. Cute is the appropriate word, right?
>>3994495You seem female.
>>3994495I dont get it is that supposed to be dried cum?
>>3994513It's blood, dummy.
>>3994493>>3994495>>3994514Cringe
>>3994487
>>3994435Did you play it anon? What are your impressions
>>3994487Jeanne's head looks squished now that the air vents are taking up more of the head space
>>3994533No, I didn't and I don't think I'll get to it anytime soon.I barely have time to play vidja. 1 at a time is all I can muster right now, and I already have at least 2 games in my backlog and the NG+ of Demons Roots.
What type of haircut does Grimm have?
>>3994817helmet hair
>>3994817skullet
>>3994820Holy shit. I'm getting fired if I get one of these.
>>3994817>post Grimm's haircut>"what haircut does grimm have"
>>3994487I prefer the old Jeanne. The rest is good.
I wrote a little song for Mabel, it goes like this:MayMay is so cuteshe is very Cute!she may be drunk, and kind of smelly but she is ve-ry-cute~
>>3994817i believe its supposed to be ambiguous, since its rarely consistent
>>3994883>ambiguous>always has the same haircutAre you people doing it on purpose
>>3994886doing what on purpose? i can't associate with whatever boogieman that's haunting you
>>3994889Grimm has spiky, push backward, hair.It's not that need bro, it's staring in your face.
>>3994890those are a few select examples of a similar thing, and even they aren't entirely consistenteven in the daughter sister mother scenes the haircut's always slightly different, I'd dump it too if not for the fact i don't want a vacation rn.
>love>in a porn gamepass
>He doesn't want to fall in love with the mother of his childrenNGMI
*Correction: only sister/mother has scenes where the hair is visibleanyways, as one example, here the hair more straight from the back.
as for the scenes, the length is inconsistent.the mother scene the hair i shorter and less messy, while the sister scene its a bit longer and more anime-like (as best as i can describe)and if you consider hunter/mage to be his cannon appearance, that means it would also be long, which would contradict all the other haircuts.but anyways, im not interested in getting autistic over that "Schrodinger's haircut"
>Schrodinger's haircut:>its long short spiky straight and pushed back until the Cheshire box is opened
>>3994894Not really, I wouldn't say it's always consistent, but what is consistent is this: It's always pushed backward, and spiky.You can just cut it to only show the good part you know?>>3994901It's literally the back hair.
Thanks for however suggested NPC Dreams here, pretty fun.Made me realize how good BS characters are though.
>>3994919There's not enough big boobies...
>>3994928
>>3994914>Always pushed backward>Always the sameNo.
>>3994945One of the rare case where we see Grimm not from the side, but from above.So obviously, it's impossible to tell
enough with the hair, lets discuss the elephant in the room
>>3994968Sir, that's a banana.
>>3994970*bananalice
>>3994972Balice!
>>3994435New Blacksoulslike?
>>3994487Only Dorothy looks better
>>3994968Obviously, he can't be.Grimm is too tall, stand too tall, and his jaw isn't like that that is slander.
>>3994983you said tall twice, which cancels the first tall and eliminates the second, thus the conclusion becomes not-talland here's this
>>3994995>you said tall twice, which cancels the first tall and eliminates the second, thus the conclusion becomes not-tall*slaps you*>and here's thisThe truth was here this whole time!
>>3994817>What type of haircut does Grimm have?It looks a lot like Guts's haircut
>>3994995monkeys dont go into heatstupid
>>3995010don't call my birb wife stupid
>already thursdayah damn it i haven't written my dodo pie story yet! promise to dump me some hot alices in exchange that i finish that story by Friday
>>3995017I'm taking this pic, it's very nice. Kudos to the guy who made it.
>>3995020here's another Alice
alice a cute
ah i cant help iti love heriloveheriloveherilovheriloveheriloveherilvoheriloiverhliloiveheriloveheriloveheriloveheriloveheriloviehrlioveheriloveherlioveeriloveheriloveheriloveheriloveheriloveheriloveheriloveheriolliveheriliveherlioveheriloveheriloveheriloveheriloveheriloveherilovlieeiloveheréiloveheriloveherilvoeherilàveheriloveheriloveheriloveheriloveheriloveheràilovheriloveheriliverilofveherilovieheriloveheriloveherilovehelriovloàuierlvkielohveheriloveheriloveheriloveheriloveheriloveheriloveheriloveheriloveheriloveheriloveheriloveher
alice would love me more if i started writing dodo's pie story
grimm is the bottom one for me
> angel numberalright Alice i'll start writing right away
>>3995036What ever happened?
>>3995036but that's not a chimp
>>3995036This is Lindamea
>>3995043in your headcannon sinner
He's so cool...
>>3995046nah, hes a fag
>>3995046In a game with actual cosmic niggermen, how does bro manage to be the most autistic character?
>>3995081Lindy LOVES Justice
>>3995046Is he a man or a womanImagine a tiny loli coming out of that armor
>>3995088I like to imagine he's a man because he's basically literally the only person going against Grimm besides Helkaiser kek, his role is literally to punish him for his Sins. In fact I think Grimm might actually meet his end by his hands when he's finally done saving his waifus in BS3
>>3995092>In fact I think Grimm might actually meet his end by his hands when he's finally done saving his waifus in BS3is that what you tell yourself every night before bed Lindamea?In fact, I'm off to bed as well. and I'm going to say "Jobamea can't fight for shit" every night before bed from here on out.Goodnight
>>3995092>>3995086How exactly was Lindamea was planning to dole out ""justice'" or punish GrimmI mean, Lost Empire I can give him a bit of slack. But when he showed up in DLC3 what exactly was his plan? Give Grimm a 25 to life prison sentence with parole?
>>3995137Lindamea vagueposting king...
>>3995137>>3995146Infinite hyperdeath
>>3995163Waiting by the bonfire until Grand Guignol gets mad.
>>3995137Dryfishing
I just pked toro in the wildy on a 2350 world, he swore at me in broken english because I smited him and got his twisted bowdead red hood has just been delayed as a result
How’d you get those glasses ? And why ?
>>3995191>Google returns nothing>Archive returns 1108 resultsYeah I already knew this was going to be a great learning experience.
Fucking following her around the zoo bro ugh wtfuuuk
And a picture from 2018 with that MO why ? Foo why?
>>3995092That would be amazingly shitty.>>3995137I guess dude just saw Grimm's black souls and went "Oh THAT'S A LOT OF SINS" and decided to lock in.
>>3995088Lindamea (and Hein) are ambiguous. Being that he rides a Hound of Tindalos he might be something like a shoggoth.
>>3995330Hein isn't a dude?
>>3995400Toro confirmed in a QnA that Hein and Lindamea have no confirmed gender, which is easier to get across with Japanese pronouns. For Lindamea it's just that we don't know what's beneath the armour but Hein being based on the German personification of death he probably has no biological sex or gender.
>>3995603>Hein being based on the German personification of deathHe is?
>>3995604https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freund_Hein
>>3995612The more you know. Thanks.Does that mean we need to call him Brother Hein, Friend Hein or Godfather Hein from now on?
>>3995614Just call him Daddy Hein.
>>3995620I knew it! My brother! I had hoped someone would say it!
>>3994817Slick back that got messy after removing the helmet
The Dodo pie story is coming along nicely. though I've expanded upon it, its become less of a short story and more of a little fairytale.but i have a little request, could you post a line or dialogue from the butcher so i can get clarification of how he spoke? my memory is a bit hazyanywys, hope you're looking forward to it! I'm excited to show it once its done.
and don't worry about the spoiler, no dodo will be harmed in the making of this fairytale
>>3995604he's repeatedly called God of Death, right?
Geoff Keighley himself will announce DRH's release date in the next two hours live on the SGF stage.
Dorothy, bro...
>>3995708The term "shinigami" tends to refer to psychopomps (Grim reaper, valkyries, etc) rather than the western concept of a deity.
>>3994464Finding her book in bs2...
>>3995836DOROTHY BROO!!!!
>>3996096And now it's a +10 stick.
>>3996102Daughter Alice should fix her posture
>>3996122She's doing it on purpose hoping to get corrected
>>3996122Daughter Alice is dumb;
>>3995001Grimm is Guts?
>>3994481>>3994487bill's new face creeps me out, it looks less friendly and inviting
>>3994780It's pretty fun so far
>>3996678How wild it is compared to NPC Dreams and Black Souls?
>>3996679I wouldn't say it's wild. The game seems heavily story driven and femdom focused, and the main girl looks so good with that himecut
>>3996686>femdom focusedYikes.
>>3996488Yup, bill was definitely a downgrade
I feel like I'm the only guy who like Bill's new portrait.I'm so alone in this barren land.
>>3996696I like it too anon don't worry
>>3996686>himecut femdomAdded to backlog.
>>3996706
>>3996686How is the gameplay?>>3996706Calm down we aren't in the sequel thread! We do the Rape there!
>>3996716Sure, whatever you say. Now get back to the breeding pe- I mean, back to looking for Alice.
>>3996721Rape.
TO WAR
>>3996796What is that thing behind him
>>3994352test
>>3996797Beast of the Bright Star
>>3996800Isn't that the boss you are almost certain to never ever see?
>>3996801you see it when the battle starts.if you mean the boss fight itself, then no because it blocks the path to jubjub's nest so youre forced to fight it basically every playthrough. just use dark attacks to turn off his screen brightening effect
>>3996805I always mostly failed to see it, because white is very good at raping your eyes.>second spoilerSo that's the secret!
Sorry for not having the dodo pie story ready, yet another cluster of issues came down my way.anyways heres a shubby, hope you like it. Alice be praised
>>3996848Oy vey
>>3996806>secreterm
>>3996885I was always confused because I was never magic focused in this game!
>>3996885That kot dialogue there is probably the singlehandedly the most important kot dialogue in the entire game
>>3996892Is it? Park of Fog seems much more important.
>>3996848Based aliceschizo
>>3996903>>3996892Post em.
>>3996892NTAs. But here you go.I don't have a save before Park of Fog.
>>3996927Meant for >>3996911
I heard Node pks in the Rev caves just to fuck with Ironmen...
>>3997185Coool.
>>3997185
>>3997261
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlMe6G8q9DM
>>3997204six seven ?
>>3997204>>3997288cease
>>3997318It's always the silent ones.
>>3997313Nyo... go away stinky fairy!
>>3997318cute freak
>>3997625EMIL?
>>3997664>hyped after leveling her up and got into boss fights to summon her>she deals no damage and her ultimate does nothingWhat the actual fuck is her appeal? What am I doing wrong
How does Prickett's dress work? I see some fanart making it more like a leotard
>>3997686Like 70% of the BS1 summons suck ass gameplay wise and that probably goes up to 100% if you're either doing a SL1 (because you can't waste turns) or know what you're doing (because you can kill anything too fast for them to matter). The appeal is mainly in their personality and in fight dialogues, as well as some character specific scenes.That said her ult is actually pretty good (assuming it works as intended), you just don't really get a proper explanation of what it does.
>>3997701Also when I was checking the wiki I also looked at her unique dialogue interactions. This one is relevant to a discussion people had ITT a while ago about whether Mary created the Trial in Elysium or Shub did it in the world outside:>Baphomet: "I found you, raised you, fed you, and this is what I get? Really can't use humans after all~."
>>3997702>spoilerSo why did Miranda actually want to leave the trial and kill Baphomet? Is there a chance we'll learn in DRH?
>>3996716Regarding gameplay, there isn't a lot of fighting or grinding at all. It mainly consists of doing quests where you're fetching stuff, performing medical examinations and treating patients, and progressing the relationships you have with the heroines. The story and the characters are quite fun so far.
>>3997711Shub is canonically a shit parent, Mary didn't turn out how she did for no reason.
>>3997725Too bad I hate femdom. Not hate-hate per se but...
>>3997686Her thing is that is unga bunga with her normal attack, with her skill being even more unga bunga.Did you level her properly?
>>3997702>Mary created the Trial in Elysium or Shub did it in the world outsideI happen to remember this one, but didn't get to join in since I was still lurking. I think the initial question was figured out, but a point of confusion is how Ability to Change functions. In the context of BS1, all heroines created by Mary has a fairytale. Miranda has no fairytale, so it's very unlikely she is a Mary heroine.>VictoriaMaid Victoria is pretty clearly a failure, since the real Victoria's soul is still alive. Heroines created from Mary all feature a fairytale alongside a soul, we see this through the Demonic Princess of Thorns, and to an extent Chick/Goose with two different fairytales and one soul. I don't think this means every Mary creation has a fairytale, rather it means she can mold souls fully into something else with Ability to Change. Other niggermen, like TCO, instead create copies like tea party Alice and Alice Liddell. My interpretation is that Grimm is referred to as the Magnum Opus since he's 8/9 fucking souls merged together.
>>3997909>Maid Victoria is pretty clearly a failureHow dare you insult her?
>>3997916The crazy murdering one >>>>>
>>3997934WRONG! It's =====!
>>3997934Incorrect.
>>3997941I love both of them!
>>3997937>>3997941>=====Only at the end when she figures out her true nature. Do not live Mary's lies, Anons...https://files.catbox.moe/esru18.png
>>3997946In my heart... I love both of them!
>>3997941>Mary somehow makes her more chillHow???
>>3997949By basically covering her nature.
>>3997946Was expecting a huge penis, kinda disappointed
>>3997965>see titties>expects huge penisA hungry man thinks of bread? It's pride month though, so I'm supposed to be nice the billfags.
>>3997996Supposed? I'm not.
>>3998004It's one month, they can have it. Although, I don't think we have too many billfags here, all of them congregate on /v/ for some reason.>>3997996 (me)*nice to the
Made a new one anons took me a while but I am proud of it very much. And yes its a music album reference yet again.
>>3998109Yoooo!
>>3998109Based drawfren
>>3998059>all of them congregate on /v/all three of them
why are all the succubi french that's gross
>>3998192Victoria is sexy, that's all a filthy heathen like you should know.
>>3998192I mean, have you seen them?
>>3998192Toro was just going through his Frenchaboo phase when he made DLC3.
>>3997941I wonder if Toro will give some conclusion to the og Victoria storyline, maybe she is just dead forever and it will never be acknowledged again, she eventually would have ended up as og Victoria though
>>3998498I don't think there's anything that suggests Victoria1 didn't have a soul. However, if Lilith and co. are all functional but not heroine clones, it seems unlikely to me that Victoria has a human soul. If that is the case, she is probably the deadest dead heroine alongside 02-A. Everyone else can be resurrected one way or another since their souls are intact somewhere or their fairytale survived. But hey, who knows, maybe the reason she was a heroine is because she has a soul? All depends on how Toro wants to spin it in the next game right.
>>3998498It seems that the OGVictoria's stories is unfortunately over, unless she get devoured by a ghoul and her memories and feelings overwrite the ghoul's.Now for RealVictoria, obviously it won't be the last we see of her. After all, she did sent us a letter in the original ending of BS2.>>3998594If Leaf can create Grimm, she can definitely make other things. The problem is that the other things doesn't seems as stable as Grimm. That is the problem, Victoria, her ending or true ending, loses her shit.
>>3998611>If Leaf can create Grimm, she can definitely make other things.Yes but one of the sure-fire things she cannot create is a soul.>That is the problem, Victoria, her ending or true ending, loses her shit.Her losing her shit in the companion ending is fake and reset by cycles. The only ending that matters is ending D, where Elysium falls apart. Every companion sans Red gets splatted. The aftermath is a few fairytales make it down to Wonderland, Elizabeth Bathory and Goose's souls make it, and Miranda gets Meryphilia'd. Pretty much the only unaccounted for person is Victoria now.
>>3998619>Yes but one of the sure-fire things she cannot create is a soul.Actually now that you mention it, she can't create a soul, but she can certainly copy them, or put book into them like she seemingly done for Red.But Victoria my beloved doesn't have a fairy tale linked to her, so it must have been the white room, which made Victoria unstable sadly.There's also the Hotel, where if you fuck her too much, she goes berserk.>The aftermath is a few fairytales make it down to WonderlandMore than a few I'd say, transformed, or put into situations were they die. TCO you piece of shit.
>>3998594Victoria absolutely had an actor and therefore a "soul" (depending on the meaning of the term). That's the reason she's so different from the OG, her own original human self was shaping how she came out. BS2 spells it out fairly clearly, a role without an actor is just a puppet. It doesn't feel meaningfully alive. All of the twisted fairy tales we see in BS1/2 were Mary's creations, but most of them were given no actor and are fairly mindless creatures we fight as bosses or summons. Lilith (Mary's "Divine Mistake") was most likely attempt 1 at copying the real Victoria after Mary sealed her in the White Prison, and her coming out wrong was the moment Mary fully understood she needed actors to play her roles properly with the amount of individuality and freedom she desired. As for where Victoria is now, her ult made it to the Chaos Dungeon, so she's as still there as some of the other BS1 girls are.
>>3994352>anime>loli>loli moping over self-insert fantasy masculine knightRemember how people cringed and milked the lolcows with the neckbeards and loli pillows? We're still doing that. We still see you and despise you.
>>3998691Things have changed anon
>>3998691>>loli>>loli moping over self-insert fantasy masculine knightYou're the same kind of person who thinks egirls benefit from pedophilia, right?
>>3998691>tranny picrel
>>3998726Maybe you need a tranny to teach you how to do your makeup properly so you won't be orange.
>>3998675>BS2 spells it out fairly clearly, a role without an actor is just a puppet.That line was on a bloodstain in Winterbell, and I have a feeling it's referring to the children breeding with Grimm needing souls. The problem with that is in BS2 we have instances of characters acting without a human soul. Exhibit A: Unis and Leiden. Grand Guignol creations that are not human, seen by their true forms during the final boss fight regardless of if they die or not. Cheshire Cat indicates they are completely controlled by GG, see picrel. Even the three puppets during the VN section seemed ""meaningfully alive"" until they weren't.Futhermore, during Ending C of BS1, Victoria was becoming gradually more self-conscious of... herself? The fairies in the forest were reverting to their original forms, one of them even began to say that she wasn't actually a fairy before put into Elysium. Victoria at no point begins to act more human or does her actor begin to show, in-fact it is quite the opposite.>Chaos Dungeon theoryThe problem with this is we know Goose and Elizabeth Bathory exists in Wonderland, while their spells simultaneously exist in Shatranj. Red Hood's skill under a different name is also there, if I had to venture a guess it would be that it's her DRH version. Does that mean all three have their souls in the Chaos Dungeon?We also literally have the Demonic Princess of Thorns, as well as Cinderella from the Chaos Dungeon as a reference to what happens when your fairytale gets destroyed or lost but your soul survives. You do not manifest as a spell or object, you manifest a body.Like I said originally, I don't think there's anything indicating Victoria doesn't have a soul. But her and 02-A are very much unaccounted for before the next games come out.
>>3998788Nta but maybe not all souls are equals.Or Grand Guignol is build different.Or the whole niggerman/not human stuff... but then, some ARE human.
>>3998799>Or Grand Guignol is build different.GG is definitely built different since it's an artificial Great One created by the Red and White Queens. With the Ability to Change sealed inside her, her powers should be theoretically identical to Mary Sue's. That's also why GG wanted to merge with Grimm, to lose the restrictions binding Ability to Change and become a true creator with Grimm.>Or the whole niggerman/not human stuff... but then, some ARE human.Who are you thinking of that could be human or niggerman? The only one that I can think of who is an ambiguous niggerman is Cheshire Cat.
>>3998805>first spoilerIt's sure able to go beyond TCO's notice, or anyone for that matter. It's able to replicate stuff from the past.I wonder if Lorde summoned himself, or if GG summoned him?...>second spoilerOGVictoria is not human/niggerman, she's a succubus. Then, there are certain BS1 girls, but they have either been killed, latching to a place or transformed into a statue.Jack/Sherlock/Leopold could be considered human?Red Hood is definitely human, but had the fairy tale put in her.There's also Florence, it's a theory that the Florence furry isn't actually the real Florence, but it's the Candle Lady....Which is creepy.
>>3998788>Unis and LeidenUnis and Leiden were Nodens' knights before Wonderland was ever rebuilt as far as we're led to believe. Unis's whole deal is being pissed that Node started craving cock meaning she remembers a time before it. The actors and the roles seem to coincide when it comes to them (they are very close to GG after all) but they are real beings, most likely not human. They may be some of Node's older children. We do see that the daughters who make it to Winterbell have been affected so thoroughly they have truly become the characters they played. Nowhere at all does it say actors need to be human. Most of them aren't as of BS2.>Futhermore, during Ending C of BS1All of End C is scripted by Mary beside maybe Lindamea being autistic. The fairies revert because she wants you to piece together that she's Leaf, because she's already written her "defeat" and what follows as yet another ending before everything loops again. She's literally the one who sets up the inner library and who speaks when you pull the lever.>Does that mean all three have their souls in the Chaos Dungeon?Edith and Jack are both within the dungeon and within Wonderland despite both being real humans taken by TCO. Elizabeth, Goose, and Red have all died multiple times within the BS2 cycles and been revived by GG. However the fuck Maymay may be doing her thing, I do believe they really are in both places. >We also literally have the Demonic Princess of Thorns, as well as CinderellaActorless roles don't necessarily lack a body. Everything else Mary threw away is in the CD too. All of them fairy tales she rewrote, nearly all of them without any actors assigned to them. Mary definitely can create bodies, it's independent minds that she needs someone else for.>02-A Word of God is she's Mary's creation but some of not-yet-Prickett got mixed into her. Given she's supposed to act like an automaton, I'd believe she had no actor, and at most became the basis for GG's dollice.
>>3998814>Unis's whole deal is being pissed that Node started craving cock meaning she remembers a time before it. That, and her parents fucking.It's ironic how they don't get the guy in front of them is the male.
>>3998805>>3998811GG was never supposed to be alive. It was meant as a tool. It gaining its own will after repeating the play over and over blindsided everyone not named Yog. >CheshireToro confirmed Cheshire's actor is literal irl Dinah, which means she's being truthful in Alice's Room when she tells you about her death, and IIRC Node herself calls her Dinah the last time we see her, after GG has been destroyed. Do keep in mind that Black Souls is still set within the Mythos so canonically cats are OP dreamworld creatures because Howard liked them, so it's normal for Dinah to be that smart and powerful*. Pretty sure Poro is literally a dog that Nary fucked around with though.*Also the reason Dinah can actually hold back TCO somewhat at the end is that TCO has sunk into the role of Alice and Dinah's own role is that of killing Alice. Also also I want to bring up how the "Tearing" in "Tearing Beast Dinah" is not just about literal dismemberment but also the metaphorical tearing Grimm and Alice apart, which I believe was a bit more obvious with the rougher translation that had her as "beast that separates". It's a descriptor of her role within the play.
>>3998811>It's sure able to go beyond TCO's notice, or anyone for that matter.It's not going beyond TCO's notice, I think it's more like they expected GG to be subservient. TCO also went a bit crazy and lost his whole being super smart shtick.>LordeI'm of the opinion he made it on his own. Much like Blackwell looking for Florence and stumbling into Wonderland, I see no reason why Lorde couldn't be the same deal.>JackConsidering that Edith and Dorothy were both humans in Mental Ward, Jack is most likely human as well. And the Chaos Dungeon dialogue kinda suggests Edith Ia Ia'd both of them.
>>3998811Lorde mourns that he was not invited, is convinced GG is his child (the real GG theatre), and gets disappeared when he realizes it's not so. Given his jealousy towards Grimm getting attention I figure he's there because of his inherent connection to what GG was named and shaped after, and he kicks your ass because he's just built different. BS2 becer gets too deep into it but there are hints of how creation, artistic creation, and power are related to each other. It's possible Grimm isn't as strong as he is just because Mary made him, but because he's a fusion of so many powerful creative souls. It's all still happening in the Dreamlands after all. It's possible Lorde was such a powerful creative force in life he manifests as a just as actually powerful being within gardens; it's possible his connection to GG plays a part in it.As for Florence, I am quite fond myself of the theory that the real Florence is the Lady and furry Florence is (likely) Athena. It fits most with her fairy tale being the Nightingale and it calling out explicitly how she's the copy and the original is gone.
Speaking of Florence: The Nursing Graveyard is seemingly its own garden run by someone other than TCO. We know the gods are planning to go to war. She's trapped there and forced to search for a way to grant eternal life. Is it all a big laboratory/factory to produce immortal soldiers for the upcoming war?
>>3998819Unrelated, but I always wondered why Dinah was with Margaret at a time. Cheap way for GG to make worldbuilding, or something else?>Pretty sure Poro is literally a dog that Nary fucked around with though.Who?>*Also the reason Dinah can actually hold back TCO somewhat at the end is that TCO has sunk into the role of Alice and Dinah's own role is that of killing Alice. Also also I want to bring up how the "Tearing" in "Tearing Beast Dinah" is not just about literal dismemberment but also the metaphorical tearing Grimm and Alice apart, which I believe was a bit more obvious with the rougher translation that had her as "beast that separates". It's a descriptor of her role within the play.That would be extremely ironic. Too bad it didn't stick.>>3998823>AthenaI'm sorry what?>>3998827Either that, or Hastur decided to go somewhere, and GG is just repeating it on cycle.
>>3998823This remind me of a theory found on the wiki that Lorde isn't actually trying to kill Grimm until you try to kill him in his cell or just before. Every other time, it's his Nightmare Spirit, implying that he is so assmad, it causes a ghost of himself trying to kill.Arguments for this are, Nightmare Spirits have far less skills and stats than the "real" ones, and this phrase "... Even if I lose myself to anger, I'll just kill themin my head and be done with it."
>>3998831>and statsIgnore that.
>>3998814>Unis and LeidenEverything suggests GG is in control of both of them. Making up a believable backstory is part of Ability to Change, as Mary was doing the same for her actors. They are most definitely not Node's older children, as that would make them at the very least Outer Gods and Mabel specifically indicates they are not Outer Gods.>Jack&Edith Chaos DungeonFair enough, but then they have bodies corresponding their role in Wonderland. So in the same way Thorns Princess and Cinderella exists, why would the BS1 heroines be the only souls who turns into a skill book? Miranda to Meryphilia also technically died, but her skill isn't there.>>3998819>Cheshire CatDo we know what she is? I feel like I remember a line somewhere saying she isn't an Outer One, but I can't find it so maybe I was hallucinating. Node saved her, made her into whatever she is now, but what exactly is that?>>3998827The Nursing Garden is currently run by no one. That's why Lingeriena says that Florence is attempting to become the lord of the Garden. Sheep/Shepherd God (not convinced they are different niggermen), are spawning star pests to exploit Florence to create the immortal ghouls for the upcoming war.
I always thought people would always end up in the Chaos Dungeon, since Yog IS time, everywhere, everytime. so people being there or not shouldn't be used as an indicator.Or I'm just retarded!
>>3998829>I always wondered why Dinah was with Margaret at a timeThe Cheshire Cat belongs to the Duchess in the book. You should know this, baka.>>Nary*Mary, my bad, missed the typo.>I'm sorry what?Florence's pet owl. Because of course the girl named after the city she was born in with a sister named after the city she was born in named her pet own after the city she found it in. While you could tie the bird stuff in Florence phase 2 to just her fairy tale being bird related, the tiny bird head feels very specific to Florence finding Athena as a chick as far as what Toro might have been inspired by, and we already have animal actors (Poro, Dinah, and most likely the BS1 cats, since they survive their battle and killing them is a sin), and it would tie even more into the whole bird fairy tale thing + the irony of a bird being a copy a person bearing the tale that speaks of a copy of a bird.>>3998831Nightmare spirits are mostly literally nightmares; largely based on serial killers Alice Pleasance Liddell might have been aware of during her life. Lorde is definitely peculiar, but he does have a reaction if you talk to him after his first fight, meaning even if he's just astral projecting he's in control of the fights.>>3998833>believable backstory>MaryAlso, I don't believe GG would create a story that points to things outside the play when it is so obsessed with Wonderland.>They are most definitely not Node's older children, as that would make them at the very least Outer GodsMost the BS2 girls are Node's children (with someone as special as Grimm no less) and they are no gods either. There appear to be different kinds of possible children a god can have, given what Mabel says of Shub's child with Grimm.>Miranda to MeryphiliaMiranda is Shub's creation, not Mary's, and the Dungeon is mostly a repository of Mary's stuff. She also survives Wonderland in the end, while the others are dead as of now.
>>3998839>The Cheshire Cat belongs to the Duchess in the book. You should know this, baka.>No no. What I meant was, how could she belong to Alice AND the Duchess at the same time, and why did she "died"? Twice.>*Mary, my bad, missed the typo.Oh thank God, I thought it someone I missed for some ungodly reason....Isn't a wolf though?>last spoiler>Florence had a pet owlThere is just always something new to learn with Black Souls, if the faggots outside could see it... we would be invaded by moralityfags.And the best thing is, I can see it. I can totally see it. EMMM is autistic as all hell, we are talking about the guy who put Prince Leopold into his game, disguised as Sherlock Holmes, who is himself Jack The Ripper. The disguise was a diversion and a disguise, so what's one more? This is exactly what you are describing!
>>3998839>>believable backstory>>MaryOkay that got a chuckle out of me. But to be fair to her, the Gerda Kai expositions does mean she's at least doing some brainstorming and making stories up regardless of how terrible they are. Also, GG can be a better writer.>BS2 ChildrenThe whole point of the breeding operation was so niggerman can create more niggerman though, onto the third gen, fourth gen, etc. Are you suggesting that the children in their demonbeast form is something else?>Chaos Dungeon being mostly Mary's stuffI don't see why that would be the case? We have stuff from Wonderland, we have stuff that we haven't even seen before. Like what this anon said >>3998835 there is basically everything in there. Mabel herself says she grabs everything discarded from all the other Great Ones. We happen to have a lot of stuff from Mary because the first two games in this series were about her gardens that fell apart.
>>3998839>meaning even if he's just astral projecting he's in control of the fights.Obviously, he is trying to kill you in his mind. Except that it's not working so well. It really make me think.
Cradle of Nightmare: Flowers to You looks a lot like a Black Souls/Fear and Hunger hybrid.
>>3999050It's very openly inspired by both, yeah. Pretty sure it has an explicit BS easter egg.
>>3998849>how could she belong to Alice AND the Duchess at the same time, and why did she "died"? Twice.For one, Cheshire says she's died multiple times over the cycles in her post G End dialogue. For two, she belonged to the real irl Alice and died there, then was saved by Node and brought to Wonderland. For three, and this is the important part, she's not the original Cheshire Cat of BS2's Wonderland. The cat in the portrait with the Duchess is a lot more of a cat. If you speak to her with Cheshire's ring she will recognize it, but then she will say her cat was actually slightly different. From everything else we learn, the Cheshire we meet is an external element Node introduced to help with her plan, just like Red, and she took Dinah's soul and placed her into Wonderland by giving her the the existing role of the Cheshire Cat. >Isn't a wolf though?Poro as we meet him is, but based on his relationship with Red in RHW and BS2 I would assume Mary created him from not-yet-Red's actual pet dog. Everyone else in RHW seems to have been close to Red's real life too.Speaking of RHW, it ends with Red "awakening" and leaving the dream, and then after a timeskip being back for a new adventure, which leads credence to the idea that Mary was just borrowing people at the start and that's what she did with Dorothy's girl too.>>3998850>GG can be a better writer.True, but it seems to have just recently started doing its own writing as of DLC3.>>Children What I'm saying is that Dodo, Shisha, Bill, etc; are all Node's children too, so I don't see why Unis and Leiden would be meaningfully different. Either all of them are gods or none of them are. >>CDMy main answer is more so that Mer isn't dead yet by the end of BS2, but regarding the contents of the CD it's absolutely biased towards Mary's stuff because Mabel uses it primarily as a repository of her daughter's old toys. The one library we find there is primarily made up of Mary's diaries.
>>3999111>The cat in the portrait with the Duchess is a lot more of a catUhhh, yeah, more of a cat, but pink, big, and very toothy. But I see what you mean.>Poro as we meet him is, but based on his relationship with Red in RHW and BS2 I would assume Mary created him from not-yet-Red's actual pet dog. Everyone else in RHW seems to have been close to Red's real life too.>There is credence to this, since the dryad is a thing, but I partially draw a blank to the rest.Not-yet? Hmm...>Speaking of RHW, it ends with Red "awakening" and leaving the dream, and then after a timeskip being back for a new adventure, which leads credence to the idea that Mary was just borrowing people at the start and that's what she did with Dorothy's girl too.I wonder if it mean we'll see Other characters that are akin to the one you knew. What if they aren't dead, and just woke up? What if RHW Red and Black Souls Red were different?
>>3999111>My main answer is more so that Mer isn't dead yet by the end of BS2, but regarding the contents of the CD it's absolutely biased towards Mary's stuff because Mabel uses it primarily as a repository of her daughter's old toys. The one library we find there is primarily made up of Mary's diaries.I always thought it was Mabel "limiting" your range of exploration to what she want you to find. Or just limited since it's a Garden within a Garden.If it was infinite, anyone would probably play inside forever.Prickett and Node would look dead inside, and Mabel wouldn't know if she should laugh or cry.
>>3999233>Or just limited since it's a Garden within a GardenI'm not sure it is. The books we find compare it to a full fledged garden same as Elysium and Wonderland, and it's evidently a safe space from TCO the same way Prickett's mini-garden is (that one is probably a Garden within a Garden). Mabel planned to trap TCO there after Wonderland came undone after all, and it presumably existed before BS2's Wonderland.Speaking of Gardens and gardens, what is up with the Secret Garden in BS1?
>>3999241Well, Mabel Jewelbox IS a Garden... But Mabel does mention that if she make too much noises, TCO would notice, maybe that's why.>Mabel planned to trap TCO there after Wonderland came undone after allIf the Chaos Dungeon returns in Black Souls 3, this could be a trip.I mean we do fight the Fake Final boss of Black Souls 1 after all!>Speaking of Gardens and gardens, what is up with the Secret Garden in BS1?It's just the place where you find the two assholes and their books. It's mostly the place where you find Beloved White Dragon Shirasu, who appear in RHW as Beloved Dragon.What the fuck is a Shirasu? Good question. I don't know!
Oh, this remind me, Poro's name during his bossfight in RHW is Fenrir.Norse Mythology confirmed in BS3?
>>3999246>Beloved White Dragon ShirasuMy schizo theory is that he's tied to Node and it all goes back to whatever happened during the Tea Party. I'm sure it will all be explained in Candle Woods.
>>3999270Well, the Moonlight Greatsword IS in the hand of Vernai after all.
>Abandoned Station Hanover>Abandoned Station Hanover is where you can find Victoria in the second game. Coincidentally enough, Queen Victoria (former Queen of the United Kingdom who was ruling while Lewis Carroll and Alice Liddell were still alive) is from the Hanover dynasty, so there may be some sort of a parallel between Queen Victoria and the Maid Victoria.Huh.
>>3999271This, and Jabberwock is in RHW, was decapitated during the Tea Party, and is the one who cursed the black rabbit clan.
>>3999273>Jabberwock is in RHWA random encounter at that. Mary must love her. Or maybe not.
>>3999284>A random encounter at that.Playing Red Hood's Woods and seeing Red murder multiple Jabberwocks on the street while knowing what happens next is always a trip for me.
Who will appear in DRH besides Lindamea?
>>3999294Red (duh)A bunch of new Black Trial characters Probably Node given some BS2 dialoguesMabel or Yog given some gameplay details Possibly some of Victoria's sisters
>>3999309>PossiblyComfirmed actually.
The treasures of things are unknown only to the most important
>>3999310I couldn't remember if it was or not; it's been a while.
>>3999294Dogs
I'm still confused, are any of the girls from BS1 still alive? Or are they gone forever?
>>3999342Theyre fairy tales, they were never real to begin with
>>3999342In a way, no.>>3999344...About that...
>>3999342>are any of the girls from BS1 still alive?By the ending of H in BS2? Technically all dead. Except Leaf... There's the whole Meryphilia and Chick situation, but even discounting their own problems, we don't know what happened to Wonderland after ending H. It was falling apart, but shouldn't have completely collapsed with TCO still alive.>Or are they gone forever?It's possible to bring them back. If Grimm and GG merged he would've had the vessel and power.
I'm an idiot.Elma's book was foreshadowing of the fact the the two guys were in cahoots!
>>3999418It's also foreshadowing that she's a fucking fujo.
>>3999517Red aura farming is pretty kino.
BSbros, what fairy tales would you like to see appear or be mentioned in BS3?
>>3999586Oh boy. Some Andersen, some more from Lewis, but mostly, the different authors.Unironically, I'm interested in seeing if Red could appear in some form.Don't forget about Folk Tale too.
>>3999294Node and Mabel are obvious picks.Red implies Node helped her enter TCO's Wonderland and Toro soft confirmed Mabel in one of the DRH Ci-en posts.Uhhh... Ezwald? Maybe?He presumably dies off-screen between BS1 and BS2 given his equipment is in the Chaos Dungeon, but DRH does happen inbetween those games, so.
>>3999623>EzwaldThis remind me.https://fgguides.com/blacksouls/chaplain-ezwald/I don't know what he mean by This enemy is placed in the part of the game where other BS1 characters reappear but I'm an idiot.
>>3999344>they were never real to begin withRed, Dorothy and Elizabeth are/were very real.They're all humans that Leaf kidnapped and forced to play the roles Little Red Riding Hood, The Wizard of Oz and Elizabeth Bathory aka The Blood Countess.
>>3999625Plus, well, they can have bodies and thoughts, like people. They are people.
>>3999418>>3999422>It's also foreshadowing that she's a fucking fujo.This is the actual answer.
>>3999627anon how could you
>>3999624>I don't know what he mean by This enemy is placed in the part of the game where other BS1 characters reappear but I'm an idiot.I guess it's referring to the fact that Helkaiser's remains are there, Hein is close by, and then there's Victoria (even though BS2's is the real one and BS1's is a clone made by Leaf).
>>3999633This make sense. I thought it was the forest in general.
>>3999627my daughter is so cute
>>3999628Yeah, anon. It's not her fault...
>>3999692You know, she call you Father in the cell. Now, is it because she is mindbroken, or because of something else? Hmmm...
>>3999694Hans Christian Andersen hard at work. At least for some reason vro wasn't in a murdering mood in the first game?
>>3999705Now, is it actually Hans who did that, or is it in the nature of the cells? Who know.Apparently, it's in the scenes.
>>3999708>Apparently, it's in the scenes.Andersen being a murdering retard? I'd have to go check, I can't remember anything specific. I only know there's the hotel scene is the second game.But wait. Something popped up in my head and it all makes sense now. Elma thinks men should like men because her author is gay. And Leaf plagiarized that shit.
>>3999711>Andersen being a murdering retard?It's also in Greta's scenes, and the marks around her It's largely assumed it's because people saw Hansy as the kind of guy who only see good endings in death, so it's like that in Black Souls.>But wait. Something popped up in my head and it all makes sense now. Elma thinks men should like men because her author is gaySome reports mention that he bi irl, for what little it's worth.
>>3999713>Some reports mention that he bi irl, for what little it's worth.Faggotry is faggotry. Despite only being 12.5% of Grimm, Andersen is responsible for 100% of Grimm's faggotry. Unless any anons here are billfags, then (You) are responsible.
>>3999719You forget: Everything is canon.
>>3999512Source for this image?
>>4000001Anon, it's from pixiv.
>>4000003Ive seatched on pixiv before but node doesn’t really have a tag.
>>4000006Oh.
>>4000006Look at the file name. https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/144285864
What are the best editions of the books of Lewis Carroll and the grimm brothers?
hey blindanon from a few week ago here I managed to crawl my way out of my work schedule to continue.I made it forward into the mental ward and I've met Dorothy which was a gutpunch. So the ending C is canon on BS1. Also the few lore scattered in the bookcases asks a lot of questions.
Sooo is the reason Yig's voice is so tiny is because his neck is really, really, really long and it's hard to hear him from up there or am I overthinking this? I mean, Bill technically didn't lie, he IS terribly shy.
>>4000102Is there really any difference between editions?
>>4000102The Annotated Alice - The Definitive Edition is the best version of the Alice books you're going to find.
Now that I think about it, I wonder if it would be possible for Grimm to see/resurrect/encounter Red, Elma, Dorothy, or Elizabeth in the future, in the real world or otherwise, but completely separated from their Fairy/Folk Tale.
>>3994373Albania?
>>4000109All endings are canon.
Elysium > Crimean Nursing Graveyard > Winterbell >>>>>>>>>>>>> Wonderland > Shartranj
>>4000132>Yig's voice is so tiny is because his neck is really, really, really longLet me just say he is completely capable of being loud in certain scenes. He's also very small in base form, Grimm towers over him.>>4000275>resurrectRed in the hotel seems to think that you can resurrect Fairytales as long as you have their book, but Red isn't the most reliable narrator. Mabel meanwhile, is, and her dialogue points more towards the opposite; you can resurrect them if you have their soul. This is also more in line with how Ability to Change functions.So from my understanding, if Mabel is correct, Grimm should be able to recreate them without the Fairytale. Then again, maybe we'd need both for them to come out as we know them. And currently, Grimm doesn't have the vessel to properly utilize Ability to Change, the fairytales might be stuck in Wonderland, and the souls are either floating in the Cosmos after normal death or a possibility I've seen an anon speculate is that Mabel grabbed them and put them in Shatranj.
>>4000326>Let me just say he is completely capable of being loud in certain scenes.That's a certain way to say it!
>>4000326It does beg the question. Will they be as we know them? Will they remember?Another thing that make me pause is how Node claims that they will be happy in the library... but since Wonderland is most likely gone, where are they now?I have big hopes for Black Souls 3... but I'm not sure what those hopes are!>and the souls are either floating in the Cosmos after normal death or a possibility I've seen an anon speculate is that Mabel grabbed them and put them in Shatranj.She is an avatar of Yog after all, it would be rather strange if she didn't have them on hand somewhere.The Greater One who is everywere everytime, with a Garden that has things from everywhere everytime not having them somewhere? That would be cop out.
>>4000328I was also certain I was never going to speak of that again. But here we are, watching that for lore came in handy.>>4000330>Wonderland is most likely gone, where are they now?I don't think we really know. Hell, Wonderland might still be partly intact. In ending G, TCO dying was the catalyst to all of it falling apart. Meanwhile, TCO doesn't die in ending H.>I have big hopes for Black Souls 3Yeah, me too. I'm sure everyone will return for a big finale. Mary knows we aren't getting a 4th BS game anytime in this cycle. Besides, I personally wouldn't want a series to drag on too long anyway. Trilogies are always kino.
>>4000332>I don't think we really know. Hell, Wonderland might still be partly intact. In ending G, TCO dying was the catalyst to all of it falling apart. Meanwhile, TCO doesn't die in ending H.If every endings are canon, TCO probably wasn't dead to begin with, after all wasn't there more than three Alice in Ending G? And the world is clearly crumbling in ending H anyways.That's another big question, where is TCO if it's not dead? If Wonderland is gone, where is it? I shudder to think of TCO stalking us in Black Souls 3. I know it's ironic saying this in this thread, but enough of Alice.>Trilogies are always kino.Except Dark Souls.That was mean. It's just that Dark Souls 3 was just diet to me. Too many steps back, and not enough steps forward. It's also rely heavily on Dark Souls 1, which make it look like diet Dark Souls 1.
>>4000332Arguably if Toro still plans to go through with what he said BS will effectively be an hexalogy (RHW, BS1, BS2, DRH, [unnamed game about the princesses], BS3)There's actually symmetry in the two halves too when you think about it.
>>4000337What do you mean?
>>4000333>TCO probably wasn't dead to begin withI remember a heated discussion on this thread about this a few months ago. I can't remember the conclusion to all that, but I personally don't see why Alice Liddell would've escaped if TCO didn't die or at least was so damaged that it might as well be dead. Since cosmic niggermen don't really die in the traditional sense.>And the world is clearly crumbling in ending H anyways.Yeah, that was what I was thinking when I wrote might still be intact. Stuff is falling apart since Grand Guignol is the backstage and part of how Wonderland was built up, but with TCO still there I don't think Wonderland will completely break. That would leave TCO a gardenless Great One. I think the garden will instead revert to a state before the play started.>>4000337>hexalogy>Two halvesTwo trilogies. Heroines' saga and Hero's saga. Honestly? I like it.
black souls is darkwoke shit
>>4000346Toro said Shub really dies in End D because she got too into the role of Baphomet and killing that killed her, and that's why she's in the CD and Mabel is pissed at you, so it's reasonable to assume TCO, being arguably even more into the role of Alice than she was in hers, could also be killed for real.>>4000339>one game about not Grimm and two about him followed by two not about him and one about him>A B B A A B progression scheme>A game about Red, then a game about the Princesses, then BS2 > A game about Red, then a game about the Princesses, then BS3>middle game in both halves is (presumably) set in the Lost Empire / late stage Elysium>DRH is between BS1 and BS2, the Princesses game will presumably be between RHW and BS1, meaning the two halves also intersect exactly when you place them chronologically >Also you constantly move forward in time from RHW to BS2, but then you move back with DRH and (again, presumably) further back with the next one It just does a lot of stuff that pokes at the parts of my brain that like metaphorical symmetry and rhyming in story construction.
>>4000353She doesn't seems that pissed.
>>4000346>I remember a heated discussion on this thread about this a few months ago. I can't remember the conclusion to all that, but I personally don't see why Alice Liddell would've escaped if TCO didn't die or at least was so damaged that it might as well be dead. Since cosmic niggermen don't really die in the traditional sense.One possible explanation is that it doesn't have anything to do with TCO, but GG. Or maybe just Grimm. Or TCO/GG were just damaged enough.Unrelated, kind of, it's inspiring how Lewis came out from Grimm to comfort Alice and walked with her toward the afterlife.>Yeah, that was what I was thinking when I wrote might still be intact. Stuff is falling apart since Grand Guignol is the backstage and part of how Wonderland was built up, but with TCO still there I don't think Wonderland will completely break. That would leave TCO a gardenless Great One. I think the garden will instead revert to a state before the play started.In Ending H, TCO does end up being "frozen", and Alice/Prickett end up freeing Grimm and making him go toward the light...Hmm... Maybe TCO still has a Garden, but it's a tiny, mess of ink and flesh... Hardly impressing.>>4000353>Toro said Shub really dies in End D because she got too into the role of Baphomet and killing that killed her, and that's why she's in the CD and Mabel is pissed at you, so it's reasonable to assume TCO, being arguably even more into the role of Alice than she was in hers, could also be killed for real.It's funny because well, she did take her true form for her final bossfight.
>>4000353Ooooh I see.Do you want even more symmetry? What if the Princesses game had Red as the MC? Ahaha just kiddingUnless?
>>4000353>TCO, being arguably even more into the role of Alice than she was in hers, could also be killed for real.When I say can't die in the traditional sense, I just mean very loosely in the sense that Shub, Lake God and Sleep God can still manifest. Death is really not an end all in the Black Souls universe since Souls are virtually indestructible apparently and float into the Cosmos. Picrel talks about the Great One's creation souls, but we know Great Ones themselves possess souls as well.>>4000358>it's inspiring how Lewis came out from Grimm to comfort Alice and walked with her toward the afterlife.It is. But a part of me wonders if ending G didn't get Grand Guignol'd, wouldn't real Alice and Lewis just get old all over again. And then... well Leaf is still alive. Ia Ia Mary Sue all over.>One possible explanation is that it doesn't have anything to do with TCO, but GG. Or maybe just Grimm. Or TCO/GG were just damaged enough.I would love to rehash the arguments, but I'm bad at it so I found the thread and post where this conversation started if you are interested. >https://arch.b4k.dev/vrpg/thread/3900645/#q3902377
>>4000365>It is. But a part of me wonders if ending G didn't get Grand Guignol'd, wouldn't real Alice and Lewis just get old all over again. And then... well Leaf is still alive. Ia Ia Mary Sue all over.That's a valid concern. I just thought the reason they weren't old was because it was the time they were happy, before society pushed them into roles, before Alice's father put a cross on the idea of Lewis ever marrying Alice, etc, etc.It's my personal headcanon that Lewis and Alice's fairly love was pure before Leaf and TCO did their things.>I would love to rehash the arguments, but I'm bad at it so I found the thread and post where this conversation started if you are interested. >https://arch.b4k.dev/vrpg/thread/3900645/#q3902377Ooof that's a shitstorm. I don't know where to look.>Red didn't, Grimm AND Red didInteresting idea.>the game makes that explicitly clear, the only part of TCO you actually kill in F seems to be PrickettThat's also an interesting idea, but where does it come from?
>>4000374Have fun, anon! I know I did the first time I went through all that.
>>4000379Aaaaaahhhh...
>>4000358>inspiringThat's, uh, one way to call if, yeah.
>>4000365You forget Mary is even deader than TCO in G End. Considering she had the bulk of her power ripped out and F End states Grimm has become more powerful than current her he probably actually killed her and GG is what brought her back to life.
>>4000493Nani?
>>4000495>>4000374Judging by the memories in BS2, BS very much goes all in on Lewis being an actual pedo. He was having Alice pose saucily for her naked pictures and she was skipping class to have alone time with him, he starts coping and seething when he sees old Alice, he tells child Alice his wish is for her to never grow up, and presumably he was doing stuff with Lorina too if she was desperate to get back with him and if the ideal body for her to do so with is a loli.
>>4000494If only. If only...God I'm rired of Leaf.
>>4000496Hey, I said that it was my personal headcanon, not that it was actually true. Though I don't remember him going full pedo anywhere other than in the VN section... and that's a big striike against him no matter how perverse the white room is.>he starts coping and seething when he sees old AliceI always thought it was the trauma of the time having gone by, and having never moved on from Alice. Alice haven't moved on from him either.But again, personal headcanon.I also really like the idea of most Outer Ones not understanding love and only seeing the sex part. Alice/Prickett in sharp contrast to most characters is not just dressed modestly, her dress is almost downright unflattering despite how buxom she is, and genuinely pretty and cute. Another contrast is how Mother Alice is dressed: TIGHT.I'm rambling, sorry.
Tekeli-li! Tekeli-li!here's that shoggoth anon wanted. Still no dodo pie story sadly, I'm having some mental trouble and compensating it by breaking my lifting records.
>>4000525cyoot penis melter
>>4000527poor buzz had to be airlifted to a hospital after an unfortunate shoggoth encounter left him corrected. seriously, look it up. he was rushed to a hospital during his visit to antarctica and soon after made a schizo tweet warning others not to enter the antarctic pyramids lest they get shoggoth'dI now request Buzz Aldrin in a space suit getting corrected by shoggy
>>4000530>if that actually happened, doesn't that mean its actually some other third party controlling the shoggoth to fuck with him? isn't that how they supposedly work?
>>4000532 if i remember correctly, the shoggies murdered their former masters and are now looking for Human Men to reproduce withat least i hope thats the case
>>4000546what'cha testin'?
>>4000551I just erase my browser history, so i am testing for how long until my captcha get to normal
>>4000552ah, make sure to have at least five burner email accounts in case it asks for your jewmail
>>4000554It still havent ask tho, beside I dont post on /pol/
>>4000555it might randomly temp-block you and ask depending on where your ip range is located, best to be safe.
>>4000557i see, thanks anyway
>>4000558i thought that was Letty Whiterock in a cowgirl bikini
>>4000562>picI like this thing.
>>4000629don't butter my alice!
>>4000632Jublob
>>4000631>>4000632I would never!...I also like those things!
all those blobs, but still no shogblob. despite it making the most sense to blobify...
>>4000639every BS character deserves a blob
>>4000273Thanks anon, any ideas for the brothers Grimm one?Maybe also the ones from Anderson?
>>4000644who is she throwing that brick at?
>>4000647Autozone
>>4000649really? i thought it was some minority owned kebab shop
>>4000647That's a brick??
>>4000666>666THE BRICK IS AIMED AT YOU!!!
>>4000675
>>4000676FUCK YOU LORDE, THEATERS ARE FOR FAGGOTS!
I don't like Lorde the Barn Owl
>>4000678Fucking rude!
>>4000681Dollice joints!
>>4000494Oops, I'm mixing up H and G to make that joke. Y'know, thinking back it's following its namesake, but it really was a bit too perfect how everything fell in place.
I forgot to write of this earlier, but I had a strange dream with an odd omen that night. might be interesting to someone here, maybe. it goes as such>i was using some form of GPT service in a dark room having a conversation, and when i wrote to it the chatbot began giving me warnings of something to come, unrelated to my questions.>i wondered what it was on about, and it continued giving me some cryptic responses about some imminent danger>eventually i got the feeling it was directing a warning to me, and my blood grew cold.>i then demanded what exactly its trying to warn me about, then it gave me a french response, with two words i later on forgot.>"la ________ ________">and as soon i woke up in a cold sweat, the clock hit 3am.despite having repeated the phrase frantically after i woke up, i fell back asleep and forgot the phrase. I regret not writing it asap.was it an omen or was i being schizo again?
>>4000681
>>4000687That is cursed. And I love it!
>>4000687that is ADORABLE!!!
DRH will get delayed again, thanks to Toro taking interest on playing the Ace Combat franchise
>>4000995this is someone's erotic dream
burakku sourusu
>>4000109blindanon herethe further I go the more questions I haveand I don't know who to trustlow sen seem to show the truth of the world, which from BS1 I already know is another of Mary Sue's machination but why can Grimm only sees it when he goes insane ?I must dig deeperalso this fucking game made me take out a notebook to write down what I see. I am going insane.Dodo is very cute tho
>>4001019
>>4001019btw is there no centralized way to interact with the girls I've joined like the BS1 hub ?
>>4001028nothey're not very far from bonfires though
>>4001019You must search more.
>>4001033I will find Alice.
>>4001034Go beyond. Plus Ultra.
I wanted to get into the second game but I'm not sure if I should be going blind since I want to avoid unnecesary replaysis there a good guide anywhere?
>>4001319One replay will be necessary, since you'll want to do a 100 SEN run and a 0 SEN run. Go for the 100 SEN run blind.
>>4001345Where does this 0 SEN run shit even come from? We used to never discuss anything like that from what I remember. Just use the gear to switch between 100 and 0 SEN instead of sticking to one or the other. >>4001319For the best experience, play the game with as little guidance as possible. It's all about exploring and putting the pieces together yourself. If you really need help with with something specific you can ask /here/ since most people are smart enough to still put spoilers around potential spoilers.
>>4001345>>4001358I see thanks I'd do that thenjust wanted info if there was something specific I should know to not fucked up a playthrough and being able to do multiple endings in one so I don't have to replay everything again because I somehow missed a hidden NPC or specific item
>>4001319If you did B, C and D from BS1 then you're set. The only guide you need is the hints.txt in your game folder
>>4001376Good colors!
>>4000374I still haven't read the thread lmao I'm such a bitch I don't want to filter the shitstorm>>3997946I love those two pictures.
darkwoke zoomertranny subahibi-core game.
>>4001412>I don't want to filter the shitstormWhen I first started lorefagging a part of it was parsing headcanons vs actual lore on this thread. It's a shitstorm but it's all in good fun, at least for me on the sidelines.>>4001427We saw it the first time, /v/ tourist-kun. Here's a (You). Now tell me, why be like this?
>>4001535>Now tell me, why be like this?He is a sour puss.
>>4001536He's a cat? Exquisite.
>>4001535Subahibi is not really big on /v/. I run into it more often on /lit/ if anything. But apparently it's also big on twitter and fucking tiktok, so I'd wager that's where he's from.
>>4001319>I want to avoid unnecesary replaysNo replay is unnecessary and each new cycle will give you more insight and let you catch hints that you missed before.But if you want to rush things and do only the minimum number of cycles then do 2 runs, a 100 SEN run with any of the 3 Alice ends, and then a 0 SEN run going for G and H.(Or you can use the Gear of Madness like the other Anon said, do a single run and shift back and forth between 100 and 0 SEN, that's also an option so long as you're careful with your Red interactions.)
>>4001535Who do you think Lorina sold her soul to?
>>4001573TCO. There's not much on it directly, but Alice Liddell and Edith were both TCO. Alice Liddell is confirmed and Edith is pretty much confirmed through her Chaos Dungeon description.
>>4001592My counterpoints there are that>Big Sis Alice disappears after TCO has already lost the plot (seen in the Winterbell memories)>it stands to reason that Bis Sis Alice was the original fourth nightmare given the other three Alices are all nightmares too>Lorina is already the odd one out of the existing nightmares, being a human and not a god>TCO has real Alice in the white room and Edith in the ward (and suffering a horrible disfiguring fate), but Lorina is instead getting to fuck Grimm and in direct competition with TCO>in fact, Lorina fucking Grimm gets you one of the very very few scenes where TCO gets pissed at what's happening and almost interferes, which almost never happens otherwise>Jubby suspects Mabel of having disappeared Big Sis Alice>There is established precedent in the Mythos for Yog making deals with humans that involve transforming them into other things, and no such precedent for Nya'>TCO is kidnapping people left and right, he wouldn't need any sort of "deal" to take Lorina and plop her where he wants, and he would be quite unlikely to give her a favourable one at that when he does not like her fucking Grimm>If Lorina was always the QoH then either she got a promotion for some reason, Wonderland used to have 5 nightmares, or there was a god who was playing an Alice but not a nightmare (and the nightmares also being Alices isn't a way to fill extra missing roles since both Jabberwock and Bandersnatch were playing those roles before they started to also be Alices, so they were always playing both in Wonderland)
>>4001573Why wouldn't it be TCO?
>>4001604The problem with it being Mabel is the complete lack of interactions from either of them. Sometimes you have to think if Toro wanted us to come to a certain conclusion, whether or not that expectation is subverted in a meaningful way, etc. In this case, a Evil God referencing Mabel or even Yog would be very odd. Not to mention Mabel isn't involved in creating anything in Wonderland, let alone an entire role.>Lorina being humanWhatever she is doesn't seem to be human anymore. Could be a case like Cheshire Cat where she isn't an Outer One, but isn't what she was originally either.>Mabel disappearing big sister AliceJub accuses her, but Mabel's status quo has always been grabbing dead people into Shatranj. The Sleep God and Lake God were both killed by TCO himself before Mabel took them.>he would be quite unlikely to give her a favorable one at that when he does not like her fucking GrimmEven if TCO isn't the one that gave her the role, if he didn't like it he can just take it away. Wonderland is in control of TCO with him being as crazy and weakened as he is. TCO also dislikes a few other things like Leaf's scene and lets it be.>MythosI am not very familiar with the Mythos, but Black Souls characters shouldn't be assumed to be x because it was x in the Mythos. There's way too many established differences already for that to be the case.All in all, I think your theory is possible, but it's jumping through a lot of hoops to reach it's goal.
>>4001614 (me)Forgot to spoiler my image. Oh well, it was just a screenshot of the sign in the castle calling whoever kidnapped Lorina a Evil God.Anyway, continuing on. Compared to how Toro shows that Edith was kidnapped by TCO. It is subtle, yet very firm in it's confirmation. They were brought to paradise, and paradise almost always inexplicitly refers to Wonderland throughout the game. I believe this Node line references Jack and Edith as well, considering the first time you meet her will usually be right after you meet Jack.
>>4001614>the complete lack of interactionsMabel barely interacts with anyone ever besides you and the other two queens, but we know she has enough of an important role for Jub to go to her. We know for a fact she's almost certainly Mary's other mother but she never visits her despite being right next door. It's deliberate too. "Mabel" is, much like Mary Ann, a character named but never seen in the books. She's assuming a role that exists within the narrative but outside the confines of the script.>Mabel isn't involved in creating anything in WonderlandThis is debatable. It's established the God of Sleep was involved in creating Wonderland and disposed of soon after, and he's in her possession now. She's certainly there earlier than when Big Sister leaves, and since quite a bit earlier too given her dialogue with Jub, most likely since before TCO went insane. She's been buddies with Prickett and Mabel for a while too. And I am still not convinced she's not the one speaking when you name yourself something you shouldn't; Node wouldn't be going "Fufu you shouldn't remember that" at that point in the story.>doesn't seem to be human anymoreShe still started out as one. The role of a Nightmare seems a prestigious one considering who else got it, so she sticks out. Something else I forgot to mention is that it would be at least poetically fitting if Older Sister Alice was replaced with Alice's Older Sister. >a Evil God referencing Mabel or even Yog would be very oddNode may be the closest thing to a "good" god we know of. Mabel is still the one who tells you to fuse with GG. She's nice to Grimm, but I wouldn't say she's not evil. However, honestly, that line could be good evidence if you somehow wanted to argue for Mary being the one involved instead. I find that unlikely though.
>>4001632>>4001614>if he didn't like it he can just take it awayCan he at this point? GG is capable of resetting the play even with TCO defeated or dead depending on your take on G End. I'm not sure TCO can alter the play any more at this point. Killing Lorina will just have her alive again next cycle. >Black Souls characters shouldn't be assumed to be x because it was x in the MythosTrue on one hand, but on the other it's literally impossible to know a lot of things about the characters without the Mythos. When most gods are referred only by title it's clear Toro expects you to fill in the blanks with knowledge of the source material. Mabel first revealing herself as the One-in-All would be meaningless if the author didn't expect you to know what that means.I'd say to read The Silver Key and Through the Gates of the Silver Key for Yog and his dealings specifically.>>4001617>picGood catch.
>>4001614>Black Souls characters shouldn't be assumed to be x because it was x in the MythosBut that's unfun!
>>4001632>Mabel barely interacts with anyoneThat ones on me, when I say interactions what I meant was any form of connection.Before we start connecting dots between A and C, we have to connect A and B to see that it's already established that TCO is the one who makes the roles for Wonderland, TCO is the one who has kidnapped other humans prior. Mabel, meanwhile, is established that she is grabbing souls of the dead. She has at no point attempted to add to Wonderland as far as we know. She also expresses explicit disinterest in Wonderland as a whole. If she did in fact add Lorina to the play, it would be a first, and I don't think it would be shown to us in this way as a debut.You have to try to think what the author is trying to tell you. And I'm not saying that to be a pretentious asshole, in these scenarios with no established lore that is the route to go. Why would Mabel add Lorina to the play? What purpose does it serve? What possible interest does that fulfill for the character of Mabel? And does all of that make more sense than other possibilities.>>4001637>Can he at this point?I personally think so. Even though TCO is crazy and weakened, it still thinks it has control of the play. TCO is unaware that GG has a mind of it's own until the very end, which suggests to me that he is very capable of changing the play should he wanted to since nothing was out of the ordinary to him. Wonderland is his garden, and he has shown that he is capable of straight up erasing Jabberwock from the play when she doesn't follow the script. Also during ending G, when we finally reach ""Alice"", that could be argued as the play changing since it hasn't happened.>>4001652>But that's unfun!Really? I think it's the opposite... It's more fun when characters get subverted or changed compared to their Alice in Wonderland or Mythos counterparts.
>>4001666>subvertedNo. Subversion of expectations is a genuine cancer of the fiction world. This fucked tree? It's not just good. It's great. And I shudder to think that EMMM wouldn't seen it the same....With maybe one or two exceptions.
>>4001668>No. Subversion of expectations is a genuine cancer of the fiction world.Can you explain? How do you feel about characters like Nodens being originally helpful to humans, and our Node being originally helpful but turns out to be manipulating us until the very last part?
>>4001671>spoilerOh that sort of things, I'm fine with. Perfectly. I'm just saying that if Kuti isn't the daughter of Cthulhu or that somehow, Nug/Yeb aren't the kids of Shub, I'd be very annoyed. Giving them different personalities is perfectly fine.To be fair for Nodens in the mythos, depending of the writers, he is genuinely helpful to humanity, or someone that doesn't care about them. He also has a strong hatred of Nyarlathotep, and may be equal to him. Which is... funny to say the least. Unless Node DOES end up putting TCO to the ground.In my personal headcanon, I think that Node gradually started to fall in love with Grimm as time went by, and deeper headcanon, that Grimm's real personality took over sometime.But this is just my personal headcanon. I like my personal headcanon. Don't judge them.
>>4001668So grimm IS an amalgamation of different souls right? I remember arguing with some idiot about that
>>4001695Why? Everyone in game says it. The game itself make a deal about it in 2, specifically the Hotel Poseidon scene where nine Grimm-like figures are shown and they all clearly each get a melty over what they did, which end up iirc as, stfup we all did it.
>>4001696Does he have split personalities? For example, was his constant alice autism in BS2 the result of Carrol's soul acting up, or what?
>>4001698Most likely, TCO apparently scrambled his souls/brain. not helping matter is that Grimm may have his own Alice. (The fandom is stll divided about the tea party's necomer being Grimm or Lewis. I think it's Grimm..In 1 he was relatively normal.But in 2's scenes, you can tell the personalities have more of an impact on him. In DLC3 the marks are uncharacteristically insistent on you killing Greta, and a scene with her show that he think killing her would be great to spare the tragedy of suffering before being cut off.
>>4001702Knew it, some retard said that having split personalities "took away grimm's complexity" or "went against the themes of the story" or whatever it was.
>>4001705Bro forgot that he was normalish in BS1.I mean, it's obvious that Lewis has more of an impact on Grimm, because, Wonderland, Especially since Grimm may have had adventure at the Tea Party. but come on, saying that with Poseidon Hotel, Greta, that's just....
>>4001708It was so plainly obvious in the fucking hotel in bs2 that Grimm wasn't alone in his head. I hate people on the internet.
>>4001710Well yeah. Eight Grimm silhouette, surrounding a Grimm silhouette, with all of them fighting on the inside and accusing each other until someone said "Fuck you, WE did it." It's clear as day.It also took a toll on Grimm's body too, Red described him as sweating so the experience musn't have been nice.
https://files.catbox.moe/16ba6j.jpeg
>>4001860Rabbit wife... dick too tiny
>>4001671>Nodens being originally helpful to humansNodens shows up like twice in Howard's stories and the first time he takes a guy's soul out of his body to keep him hanging around the funny house people shouldn't go to while his normified body goes on living a normie life and it's not clear if it's a good thing. He mostly only helps Carter because he was Howard's self insert.>>4001666>Why would Mabel add Lorina to the play?My own take there is that it guarantees she gets her soul too after Wonderland collapses, and it lets her take the missing Alice if she was responsible for that. Actually, another thing: we already have precedent for Yog creating red-themed royalty for Grimm to face in the Old King / 1st Red Queen, which is another point of connection.>>4001702>The fandom is stll divided about the tea party's necomer being Grimm or LewisMary is the one who first takes Lewis, then she has her 'toy' stolen by TCO for the Tea Party, and Prickett seems both more in love with Grimm than Lewis and fine with Lewis leaving, so I'd assume he was already Grimm by that point. Prayer Master also clearly recognises you, and Mary was messing with other fairy tales before Grimm so she'd have been interested in other authors already. It would be odd for Mary to be that interested in getting him back if it was just Lewis, or of Mabel to want the rematch with the Red Queen, and a bunch of other things.
>>4001905It has to be Lewis at the tea party.The main thematic reason is that the Tea Party was created that way due to Alice wanting to meet with Lewis, not Grimm. So it just wouldn't do for anyone other than Lewis to be there. And due to Lewis's soul leaving in end G, we can assume that TCO could've borrowed just his soul even if Grimm predated the Tea Party. Prickett is "fine" with Grimm leaving in end H as well. Even during the Queensland date, she doesn't tempt Grimm with escaping with her despite wanting to do so.>It would be odd for Mary to be that interestedYou underestimate or overestimate her greatly. Mary would never in a million years allow for any part of her magnum opus to be stolen from her. She's too arrogant and possessive of her creation to even entertain such a thought.>Prayer MasterLeaf could've let him in on it because of his role. The other characters might either know, or, more broadly, they might see Grimm as a direct continuation of Lewis. Depending on how you look at it, it isn't at all wrong to say that while Grimm is a distinct entity, he also used to be Lewis, in addition to all the other authors he used to be before Mary did her thing.Censoring the name could be argued for both, but it would be far more important to hide Lewis's name than Grimm's.
>>4001921That would require just Lewis, not Mary empowered soul amalgamation Grimm, to have killed Jabberwock and the Red Queen and whatever else he did. Lewis's soul only leaves Grimm under the very specific circumstance of meeting Alice Liddell's soul. The Tea Party was an experiment by TCO to understand love and Alice was merely involved in its creation, but even if its events are based on her childhood fantasies I wouldn't say the Alice in it (Prickett) was particularly based on her. Alice's desire to see Lewis again in the memories is tenuous and I wouldn't pin it as particularly romantic. And you can't argue that TCO was only interested in Lewis AND could have pulled Lewis out of Grimm when that's not something he does before the start of BS2. And I'm pretty sure in End D of BS1 Alice calls him Grimm and not Lewis. And TCO falling for him in the first place implies he was already Grimm because Mary made him a relationship magnet that all gods end up infatuated with.
>>4001905>>4001921>>4001944Like I said, the fandom is divided. Though iirc the japs mostly think it's Grimm
Any lore bits hope for DRH?
>>4001988That Leaf lookalike is sus.I also want to plunge into Wednesday's giant lore.I'm weirded out that they don't use their real name, like Detective Falk, I know the actor playing Columbo is named Peter Falk, but something about it Something isn't right, and I'm not sure if it's Copyright, or more Guarden shenanigans
>>4001988nothing in particular but considering how many characters are suspected to appear we might get a lot and even an incipit for BS3 despite the game being set before 2
Someone got the list of everything you need to read to understand BS?
>>4002202https://arch-img.b4k.dev/vrpg/1703332931243.png
i love my stupid stinky wife
>>4002258why does she have an aura around her
>>4002287Kek
>>4001702Just checking, when Grimm freaks out with Red Hood and rapes her, that was also Carrol’s soul right? Red remarks that “you’re not grimm” and all.
>>4002354That's a good question actually.It might be purely Grimm going schizo, remember he spent around 60 cycles being completely schizo without control, and even when the game start there are after effects, but it could also be Lewis taking control.
>>4001988I hope we learn if it really just Poro who can make her cum or if it just work Any Doglike things
I don’t really interact with community outside of here, but I heard some anon say that the BS community became pretty bad and also things about the Spanish side of the community or something, is any of this true?
>>4003217If it's on normiefaggot media it's likely trash by default
Jack the Ripper's first known victim (traditionally, there are possible earlier ones but it's debated whether they were his work) was named Mary Ann. Probably not all too relevant to BS2 but it does compound on the Victorian aesthetic.
>>4003335Those HIPS
>>4003335CHEST TOO BIGI enjoy my drunkard as flat as the flatboard, as every cunnyseur should.
>>4003349I always wondered if Mabel was actually a loli or just a petit woman....Mommy Mabel... Hot.
>>4003217There's been a subreddit full of people who talk about Black Souls (and there's one for Hakika's works too) for several years, so yes.
>>4003350Depends how accurate you think she's being to book Mabel.
>>4003391GIVE ME MOMMY MABELLLLLL.
>>4003367>and there's one for Hakika's works tooTheir topics must be riveting.
>>4003393BS3 Mabel will have huge tits, trust the plan.
>>4003218Normalfags spawn lots of BS fanart. And then you come here for actual discussion. Don't rag on it, it's a good system!
>>4003751nugget mode
>>4003751Jeo bez leba
>>4003751Where are his arms
>NGO anime featured an Alice loli with bunny ears last week and (almost) literally Winterbell this weekI know they're both based on existing imagery and the first in particular is very popular in Japan but I don't care; I'm now convinced Nyalra could be lurking here.
Is Dodo or Leiden the biggest when it comes to overall breast size?
>>4004188Probably. There's also our favorite Gourmet.
>>4004188>bunny girl mary not next to the other children of node>serpent god not next to the other deities in the top row>lion and unicorn not next to gg>sho not next to gerdathis ordering activates my almonds
>>4004237Can I eat them?
>reading Peace on Earth>my thoughts keep straying to that Moon vocaroo whenever the Moon is brought upThis game completely mindbroke me. I have the same thing happen to me whenever I come across Alice and fairy tales.
>>4004210Gourmand she has no TACT no TECHNIQUEher eat me scene doesn't count that's cheating
>>4003350always considered her a hag
>>4004436This is really good.
>>4003217I don’t know about the spic side but the Russianbro got their wiki attacked at some point if I remember correctly
I beat the game once and got some few endingsI know I can do NG now and that there's a SEN 0 run and other where you can escape after doing covenants with many heroinesmy question is can I do the "good" covenant ending together with a sen0 run or does it cuck me out of it?
>>4004625Spoil your post holy shit.
>>4004631SORRY but it's been 20 years no one who comes here doesn't know this alreadyanywayBros I haven't played this game in years. I have a save from a decade ago where I had just killed jub jub before she kills everyone I think.What should I do now? I can go inside the door in the library now but the cat beats me. I don't think I've met griffin or that other actress girl and don't remember where to talk to them. Should I just try to collect every book in the library?
>>4004624Do a 0 SEN Run. Observe. Interact. Take notes. This is where the fun begins.>>4004632Bro, >>4004624 literally came in 06 minutes before you...You can beat Jubjub, but not the cat?>I don't think I've met griffin or that other actress girl and don't remember where to talk to them.The start of Queensland? The bridge at Lutwigde?>Should I just try to collect every book in the library?You could, but if you can't beat the kot, I'm not sure if you could. Do it for the non-item reward, since you can get it elsewhere.
>>4004634>You can beat Jubjub, but not the cat?Yeah, isn't jubjub easier than dinah? Isn't dinah, like, the last boss?>I don't think I've met griffin or that other actress girl and don't remember where to talk to them.>The start of Queensland? The bridge at Lutwigde?I don't remember how to get to queensland. I suppose it's west of the swamp? And I went to the bridge at lutwidge and she isn't there. Got a rabbit key though. Maybe I missed her in this playthrough>>Should I just try to collect every book in the library?>You could, but if you can't beat the kot, I'm not sure if you could. Do it for the non-item reward, since you can get it elsewhere.I guess I can beat her if I leveled up a bit and use node's covenant. My build is kinda trash though, I went with a cleric with the mace that basically heals himself but does almost no damage
>>4004624you have to have sen above 0 to accrue a bunch of covenants so save that run/ending for later
>>4004637>Yeah, isn't jubjub easier than dinah? Isn't dinah, like, the last boss?No comment.>I don't remember how to get to queensland.>I suppose it's west of the swamp?Directly south to the Spore Forest, and you need to go down from there.>I guess I can beat her if I leveled up a bit and use node's covenant. My build is kinda trash thoughDying isn't all bad, if you feel like the run is screwed. Wink, wink.>I went with a cleric with the mace that basically heals himself but does almost no damageOof. Probably the worst class, Mace is really a bad weapon.
>The Three Births of Daoloth>Black Souls is a trilogyCoincidence?
>>4004386Can relate same thing happened when I watched Disney's Alice in Wonderland and seeing Lizard Bill carrying the ladder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2aTIVXCUck
>>4004879seggs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmiZYx_GvOU&t=2030s
>>4005146Idly looking through this guy's stuff to see if I recognise other BS tracks. I found this so far: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ich1VGJSERs
>>4005175M-ART, PeriTune® and nons works are the keys.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scEQQ_t1HM8
>>4005175https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpIa3IKnC_c
alice is punishing me for not writing the dodo pie story by making me endure these hellish (in a literal sense) temperatures.if i dont finish that dodo pie story soon, then half of europe will burn... including me!has anyone made a drawing featuring all the outer ones (tco maymay and shub as far as i can recall)? if not then I'll just draw it myself
i'm gonna burn to death; cooked and roasted like a fine dodo Cuisine.
Just finished BS1, I'll ask this straight, does it get better? The story was interesting and the plot twist was cool, but the gameplay was poorly balanced, scenes were dogshit and the writing pretty barebones. I've heard that BS2 improves a lot, is it true? I come from the Sequel series so that's my frame of reference.
>>4005288It get better, a lot better in fact.If you played Red's game, you would be impressed by how much Black Souls advanced, and then you'll be impressed by how Black Souls 2 advanced too.Not that your criticism isn't valid.
>>4005285>second frameNode is much more expressive during sex.
>>4005265FrenchGOD here, it burning hot here please do something alicebro
>>4005290Alright, I'll give It a chance sooner or later
>>4005288BS2 is also poorly balanced, in that you'll either get your shit kicked in or you'll stomp the enemy with no in-between, but in a fun way. I had a lot of fun fucking around with different weapons, gear, skills and pumping the numbers as high as I can. And then I got my shit kicked in by DLC3 regardless. I loved every second of it.The writing improves in 2 a lot. I don't know if it's due to EMMM or the translator improving, but 2 in general flows much better than 1.
I miss my wife
>>4005307AaAAAAIIEEEEEeee Give me Two more weeks trust in alice's plan! aaAAaaaAAAAaAAAHhHhHHH
>>4005407im sorry to inform you anon, but your wife has been cooked to ash this summer.
>>4005434No...
>>4005402>BS2 is also poorly balanced, in that you'll either get your shit kicked in or you'll stomp the enemy with no in-between...No?
>>4005285>that tiny slap markdid a baby knock her block off
>Trying to play BS2 on Steam>Name can't be longer than 4 charactersIs this a bug or something? I was able to name myself with five letters previously.
>>4005474You need to patch the game.
>>4005476I'm looking for the patch right now.
>>4005477https://otaku-plan.com/en/blacksouls2_en/
>>4005483Turns out I had to replace ".com" with ".net"
This was probably Lewis Caroll's office, right?
>>4005661Or a representation of it.
>>4005307Obviously with you literal cock hood.
>>4005661Who else could the notes belong to?
>>4005433>two more weeksANON I CAN’T, WE ARE DYING HERE
>>4005764>cccp node
waaaaahhhh the heat is melting my braaiiiinnnnn its still over 30c at night and i cant sleeeeeep alice help meeeeeeeeeee>>4005861>g*tchaew, no way in hell am i dying alongside a gachafag! so I'll endure.
has Redhood left? Is it safe for me to come out now?
>>4006039
recognized it immediately when I heard it ingamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjUoOZ-utvE
>>4005861>>4006038>Europoors refusing to invest in an A/C unit for the 5th time because they won't need it next year>lo and behold another heat wave happens>surely no one could've seen this comingEnjoying the authentic jeet experience over there, eh?
>>4006060>>Europoors refusing to invest in an A/C unitI don't know why Amerifats tell themselves this lie when we have AC over here too, but I do know that you're stupid enough to think letting yours run at max 24/7 is making the world colder and not hotter. Heat happens to be a problem because we do this thing called going outside and doing stuff, as opposed to your house container to car container to work container and back life because you've built the worst designed cities in human history.
>>4006187>we have AC over here tooYou do? Could've fooled me with how much Eurofags complain every year. At one point it's time to face the music and stop dying to heatstrokes.
