The game will be called Sentinel.Set across both Hammerfell and High Rock, you'll restore the Empire to its golden age by defeating the Thalmor at the Battle of Adamantine Tower.Expect massive naval battles, castle and stronghold building, and the return of Morrowind's spells and magic system.Absolute kino
This is the fourth? Fifth? Time you’ve posted this thread
>>3997565Not finding it on the archive. This thread specifically, that is.There're other TES6 threads, obviously.
>the return of Morrowind's spells and magic system
>>3997564>HammerfellYou were never worthy
>>3997710>massive naval battlesI don't believe you
>>3997564>SentinelI don't believe youall other ES games are named after regions. you are a fraudster and a scammer
>>3997716Oblivion?
>>3997564Retard.>>3997716Double retard.
>>3997716Sentinel is a region in Hammerfell, you ignoramus.
>>3997714Its like 2d spaceships battles. Starfield has those.
>>3997720Oblivion is a region of the Daedric plane dumbass. Lurk moar.
>>3997743It's the name of a city you dumbfuck.
>>3997564What I actually expect>The game will be called Hammerfell>It will not have that box art that's the Skyrim anniversary edition box art with colors changed>Thalmor will be gone with no mention of them at all>Empire will be there owning the world again with no mention of it>Towers? You think Todd is gonna add anything at all related to the towers in Starfield 2: Skyrim the Second?>No Naval Battles>Castle and Stronghold building I can actually believe>Magic system will be the same as Skyrim except we removed Alchemy because fuck you exploiters and all spells do half damage from Skyrim
>>3999157>Thalmor will be gone with no mention of them at all No way they get rid of the one easy to write big bad evil organization they've been able to introduce into the series. If the memory of Oblivion wasn't so fresh in people's minds from the re-release I could believe they might try to get away with replacing them with another daedric invasion, but as things stand there's no way in hell they get rid of the Thalmor, they're too much of a convenient plot-device.They most certainly will pull off a 'somehow, Lord Naarifin returned' and have him be the BBEG and that will basically be the whole plot. They've been setting it up since Blades. I just hope they don't ruin Ada-Mantia by turning it into a plot device for Todd's shitty little power fantasy.
>>3999185>Naarifin Don't remind me of this bullshit. The card game turning a Thalmor into a daedra worshiper was so fucking stupid.
>>3999185I do think the Thalmor and the civil war and the dragons will just be ignored. Bethesda tends to do that with their old games. They wanted to ignore Morrowind lore so hard that they nuked the province in Skyrim.
>>3999193>They wanted to ignore Morrowind lore so hard that they nuked the province in SkyrimDragonborn sucked. It did not feel like Morrowind at all.
>>3999193You realize Kirkbride came up with the Red Year, right? He also wanted Valenwood and Elsweyr to be post-apocalyptic.>>3999218You realize the Red Year first appeared in the Greg Keyes novels in 2009, not Dragonborn, right?Lorelets, the both of you.
>>3999242He didn't.
>>3999242>THE IGNORANT THINK IT IS ONLY A PLACE OF ASH>IGNORE THE GIANT PLUME OF ASH ERUPTING FROM THE VOLCANO DIRECTLY BEHIND MEBaka-kun, I kneel.
>>3999249He quite literally did.
>>3999261Pro tip: the canon for games is always the original games themselves. No shitty spin-offs, no retarded tie-in books, no exogenous "lore bible", and certainly not forum posts.Pro tip 2: when the canon for a series of games becomes retarded, it is up to the individual to decide the point at which new entries are no longer canon.Hope this helps!
>>3999262...so you cannot, in fact, counter the fact Kirkbride came up with the Red Year, then? Concession accepted.
>>3999266I made no such claim, brainlet. I asserted that Neloth is a dumb faggot. Q.E.D.
>>3999261Lorebros... why did our loremaster betray us with new lore???
>>3997670>RPG adventure game character, holding a sword, desert attire, desert city in the background, sea, city next to sea, (((desert)))
>>3999157>It will not have that box artOf course it won't because it actually looks cool>Actual TESVI box art
>>3999497Arena's cover is the closest one to that, funnily enough
>>3999495>hurr durr deserts are... le jews!Retard
>>3999495Try it. See if you get anything worth taking up 1 image limit.You'll probably need to specify "video" game to get the 3D look.
>>3999522Retard-kun...
>>3997564sounds extremely boring and vanilla never create rpgs thanks
>>3999242I mean, ok? None of that information changes my opinion or makes my statement wrong. I don't care who at Bethesda made what. It's all Bethesda to me and Bethesda tries to ignore previous games in every game.
>>3999569>None of that information changes my opinion or makes my statement wrongIt does when Kirkbride hasn't been part of Bethesda since April 2000, and his decision for the Red Year had absolutely nothing to do with "wanting to ignore Morrowind lore so hard" what with him being *the guy* that came up with said Morrowind lore to begin with.
>>3997564>Set across both Hammerfell and High Rock, you'll restore the Empire to its golden age by defeating the Thalmor at the Battle of Adamantine Tower.so almost the plot to daggerfall, but completely straightforward this time, instead of interesting and full of intrigue?yea, that sounds about like what id expect from nuthesdafrankly, the whole thing is a wash. kurt kuhlman was the last old lorefag, and he was supposed to get lead for this one. instead, todd lead him on for like 15yrs, then once shitfield development was finally wrapping up, gave the lead to who-tf-knows instead. so he quit, obviously and fair enough, id be fucking furious if i were him. now idk who tf else todd thinks can fill those shoes, but its certainly not gonna be anyone who was on a TES game prior to skyrim.as a result, idfc what happens with TES6.especially so if its just gonna be the illiac bay region. cuz at that point ill just keep modding daggerfall instead. its definitely gonna be the better game>>3997847>>3997743at various points its kinda bothsentinel was first a petty kingdom, named after the biggest city in hammerfell. it was the strongest of all the kingdoms in hammerfell with its major regional competitors being daggerfall and wayrest. after the events of daggerfall, its now just the capital of the province of hammerfell
>>3997564What I hope>Larger cities filled with life and interaction rather than just small_town_called_city>better combat system third person and first person, a mix of a slower dark messiah + vermintide>enemy variety>spears/halberdsWhat I expect>small_town_called_city>a bunch of empty parking lots to build your own settlement>lip syncing not working for the 6 voice actors that act out 200 different voices>proc genned mapped with the same prefabs of castles/camps/digsights to conquer>modding kit to arrive 2 years later after the whole game is dead and buried and ignored>dragon born powers 3.0, called 'desert born'>a shit main story with some interesting small side quests>shit crafting and merchantile skills>half baked gameplay systems>a long list of indians subcontracted to build all the assets
>>4001084
great another 10 square miles nignogs nestled in muh handcrafted terrain and the soft bigotry of low expectations
>>3997716Daggerfall?
>>3997564This will be garbage just like Fallout 4; Fallout 76 and Starfield. My expectations for this game:>No numerical attributes>No numerical skills>body type 1 and body type 2>The character building will be just perks in sections of magika, stealth and combat. The same shallow shit of starfield.>At least 50% of NPCs will unkillable aka essential>There will unavoidable battleships and will have the same mechanical shallowness from Starfield star fights.>some token shout system>If there's magic schools; alteration will be gutted, just like mysticism was gutted.>Shallow dialogue system and lack of NPC quantity and variety because Bethesda continues with that self-imposed limitation of having every dialogue voiced.>The writing will be the typical Emil Pagliarulo drivel, with some WE WUZ KANGS for flavor>I expect the stupidest retcons in this series. But who cares about the lore anymore? There's one retcon every entry.>8 weapon types at the very max>Anyone who belives that this game will have a Morrowind magic system is a idiot. Todd hates any system that a facebook mom could not understand. He only makes casual as fuck systems that have mass appeal.>Shit PC UI>Somehow Skyrim bugs are still present
>>3997564>castle and stronghold buildingWhy? Why do we need this stupid base building mechanic in every single game?
Can't wait to meet Debra Wilson, Queen of Hammerfell.
>>4001728For roleplaying you fucking idiot
>>4001791How much roleplay value stronghold building added to Fallout 4 and Starfield? Since when Bethesda cares about roleplaying? When don't even have basic RPG elements like classes and backgrounds. Every character is a master engineer that can build robots and massive buildings from junk.Fallout 4 had lowest amount of cities of any fallout game; because of the excuse of creating "your own settlements". I suspect that the same will be pulled in here. It's a bandage for low effort content. It's similar to the cope of "Fallout 4 actually has more weapon types than Fallout New Vegas because of the crafting system."
>>4001999It added a lot of roleplay value to Fallout. I haven't played Starfield yet.
>>3997564>niggers and turdmud mongrels defeat the evil elfnazisIt's so retarded it might actually not be far from the truth.
>>3997670>bland sandfaggotry>bland sandgarb>repugnant sandfaggots>sand>emptiness>sand>more sandThere is no setting more lame than sandshit
>>4001791>give me 10 hinges and 200 logs of wood and I shall craft you a marble palaceIt's shit
>>4001121>now idk who tf else todd thinks can fill those shoes, but its certainly not gonna be anyone who was on a TES game prior to skyrimWhat the hell are you talking about? Alan Nanes has been there since Morrowind. Was hanging out in forums with Micheal in the 2000s
After the fraud that was Fallout 4, it further cement my feelings that the series is not going back to its former glory. You can blame it on greed, incompetence, old guard not being around anymore, it doesnt matter. What matters is that they failed us and they keep failing us by providing shoddy, bland, falsely advertised assembly line products that only serve as a footnote in the company's tainted history. Think about it, Starfield was suppose to be THE passion project for them, something they wanted to make all the way back when they were making sportsball games, and THIS is the end result of that? Nah, i do not have any hope that TES6 (if it ever comes out) is gonna be good in the slightest. I am all out of hype so im just content with sticking to Oblivion and Morrowind from here on out and i wouldnt be surprised if Microsoft ends up axing them the moment TES6 flops.
>>4002001It really didn't . Fallout 4 would have been better if they hadn't wasted all that time on the terrible base building .
>>4002283It really did. A great feature for the series. Fits like a glove.
>>4002300Yeah I loved picking up trash and having no real quests.
>>4002302Good for you they added some value to trash then.
>>4002302>Yeah I loved picking up trash and having no real quests.You shut your whore mouth, I love Morrowind.
>>4002364You obviously never played Morrowind
>>4002300How? How is creating a water filter, in a snap of fingers, from trash, fits the Fallout franchise? How is the atrocious world building and shit writing fits the Fallout franchise? How a game with shiton of unkillable NPCs fits the Fallout franchise? How the base building complements the themes of Fallout? Please don't tell me "Because Fallout is about rebuilding the world". There's no world building in that game. It's just Boston "stayed dilapidated for 200 years". There's none of the choices that the franchise is known for. There's no ethical decision making in the game. Fallout 4 is just a shooter; there is no roleplaying. Just admit that Fallout 4 is the only Fallout game that you ever played.
>>4002277>im just content with sticking to Oblivion and Morrowind from here on out play faggerfall, coward but rly, the unity port has opened up a SHITton of mods. you can rly fill it out, re-implementing cut features. turns it into the biggest sandbox RPG ever made
>>4002182>Alan Nanesi actually didnt know thatgood for him i guess sucks he had to work on starfield tho lolthat said, kurt was there since daggerfall. he was a real OG, you rly wanna try to keep those guys around if you can. todd MUSTVE known kurt would walk if he didnt give him lead like he was promised. the dudes been waiting since skyrim for the opportunity ffs. but nah. so now hes got no kurt at all. and i just dont have high confidence that some random new hire is gonna be better than a guy whos been working on this series for decades
>>3997564Making shit up about es6 thread #83719
>>4003432Alan Nanes there since 2000And the Lead System Designer is Cesko, the modder who made Frostfall
>>4003403>It's just Boston "stayed dilapidated for 200 years"Oh, that's easy, it's due to the institute.Same with Fallout 3, rampant Super Mutants keeping society down.Also no control vaults or GECKs, the thing Shady Sands was built on.The cut content for Fallout 1 even said that if the Vault Dweller never stopped the Master or, hell, never existed at all, then the Mutants would have overrun even the Brotherhood of Steel and everywhere else for that matter. Worse when you consider how fragile the post war societies were with how the Great Khans would have nixed the NCR before it could have even begun.Really, all the major events in the West were only possible because a big damn hero was born there and let it all happen. Now the East and Boston get their own heroes are will be able to build up as well.
>>4003283>You obviously never played MorrowindHave you?https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Ceramic_Bowlhttps://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Liberate_the_Limewarehttps://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Thelas%27_Pillowshttps://en.uesp.net/wiki/Tribunal:The_Champion_of_Clutter
>>4003960>there are quests to bring items to npcs this means there are no other questMy condolences it must be hard to be this retarded.
>>4004078It was a tongue-in-cheek shitpost referencing the Tribunal clutter quest as a joke, but lol that your reaction to someone professing love for Morrowind is “you didn’t play the game”
>>3999262Are you saying Arena's thrown-together lore should've been strictly followed for the rest of the series? I mean, I appreciate the idea of never straying too far from the original vision but there wasn't even really a set 'vision' to speak of at that stage.
>>4002277>im just content with sticking to OblivionYou're part of the problem.
>>4004579Yes the blades should have ceremonial scars and the thieves guild should have a rival faction that mainly operates in the port cities.
>>4003630>Oh, that's easy, it's due to the institute.I am fully aware of this explanation. It's shit.Why? How? For what reason? For what gain? What ideology?Yes, the Institute are the generic bad guys of the garbage setting of Fallout 4, where they do generic bad guy things, such as destabilizing the region because... reasons or science, I guess. They are such a downgrade from Caesar's Legion. It's painful. Can you explain their motivation? Fallout 4 does not. I am 100% sure that Pagliarulo could not explain himself either. >Super MutantsSo the Super Mutants CREATED IN CALIFORNIA didn't keep California; Las Vegas; Arizona or Ohio from developing into their own societies; but stopped Boston and Washington? as they travel all over the country because Bethesda was too lazy to create their own content, correct? Do you also think that Fallout 3 is well written? Are you seriously?>Also no control vaults or GECKs, the thing Shady Sands was built on.You are pulling your own head-canon out your ass to protect the shit writing of Emil Pagliarulo. This is sad.So they could develop energy generators on their own (without the GECKs); secret societies to fight the institute; printing presses to have journals and journalists; and have doctors and surgeons in cities. But they could not develop law and order without a briefcase full of seeds?>cut contentIrrelevant. Cut content is non-canon. Hence why is called cut-content, retard. A cut-scene from a movie is a scene that never happened in the story of the movie. Do you understand this?
>>3997564None of this is true.TES6 will be a woke disaster like Starrim, most of the expierienced devs are gone replaced by diversity hires and outsourcing mechanics to other studios has now become the norm at Shittester. >>3999242>>3999261>>3999262The TES novels were as bad the Baldurs Gate ones. It makes the ingame novels feel like high art compared to that schlock. I have no idea why anyone would even mention them without feeling ashamed for their existence.
>>3999498Are you actually on crack?
>>4004921I have played the series since TES Adventures Redguard and I have literally never heard of any TES spinoff books prior to this thread.
>>3997564>Battle of Adamantine Tower.>look that up>wiki entry shows a daedric prince... with the image of a womanTake your tranny slop elsewhere.
>>4004108not any of those anons but your shitpost just made it seem like the other anon was being disingenuous
>>3997564no matter what, its going to be over a decade too late. people have moved on from these kinds of games. zoomers are going to think its boring and pointless. alpha is going to think its not engaging enough.
>>4005078Suuuuuuure. What kinds of games did they move on to?
>>4004906>Why?To stop people from becoming powerful enough to oppose them. The teleportation relay also helps keep the Commonwealth out.>How?They sent a synth representative to the meeting that was meant to unite the Commonwealth and it shot up the place.Plus general violence.>Super MutantsThere're FEV vats in the East Coast and so more mutants are being made. The only known vats in the west are buried.>But they could not develop law and order without a briefcase full of seeds?They have law but they're scattered. Still doing better than Arroyo. Explain Arroyo to me, lolAnyway, without the Vault Dweller the NCR never happens. That much is canon. What would be the ramifications of that and how widespread the Unity would have become is left unsaid. Well, redacted specifically, since it actually was said.
>>4005257>FEVThe Institute hasn't made new mutants in decades by the time FO4 starts and the Vault 87 did have no FEV left.> Still doing better than Arroyo. Explain Arroyo to me, lolExplain what? The drought? By the time Fallout 3 starts Arroyo is a NCR state and a proper city.
>>4005257>To stop people from becoming powerful enough to oppose them.Oppose what? This is not a proper "because". What is their main political motive? Kidnap randons in the wasteland for what political motive? A fascist dictatorship like Caesar's Legion? Economic expansion under the false pretense of Democracy like NCR? Compare this worthless faction with Caesar's Legion or House for example. Caesar and Mr.House explain themselves in extreme detail. The Institute is a non-nonsensical one-dimensional bad guy company. They are "the villain" is the most Marvel sense of the word, They are a Blade Runner reference that overstayed their welcome, made by a shit writer known for just copying and pasting pop-culture references. There's no meat in the bones at all.>They sent a synth representative to the meeting that was meant to unite the Commonwealth and it shot up the place.I am aware of that. I know that. That's why I said:"I am fully aware of the explanation. It's shit."Why would an organization that doesn't need water; energy or human resources from the wasteland; care at all if the commonwealth organizes itself? They don't want to setup their own government. They just do "sciency" things and experiments. That's it.>Anyway, without the Vault Dweller the NCR never happens. That much is canon.And? Why is that a bad thing? Why is the player input a bad thing? How is having a story with long term consequences, brought up by the player, that impact the sequels, a bad thing?So you admit that the story of Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 is garbage for their lack of consequence? The Fallout 3 story has no consequences, and neither does 4. In Fallout 4, Emil could have written how a new society formed in Washington after the events of Fallout 3. He didn't. The events and setting of Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 are meaningless. No coherent society whatsoever emerged from these games; because Bethesda just wants a blank wasteland with things to shoot.
>>4005368>They are "the villain" is the most Marvel sense of the wordThey are "the villain" in the most Marvel sense of the word
>>4005368>Why would an organization care at all if another organization strengthens itself?Nta, but can't you really come up with a reason yourselfThese nitpicking lore tards are nothing but idiots
>>4005375>These nitpicking lore tards are nothing but idiotsI care about nu-Bethesda lore precisely as much as nu-Bethesda cares about the lore, that is to say not at all
>>4005399That is to say you don't care, you just bitch as long as there's someone to reply to you
>>4005411You are clearly confusing me with another anon in this thread.
>>4005417Who
>>4005425Presumably, whichever post(s) prompted you to say that I’m just bitching about the lore to get yous. (I’m not, I just told you I don’t care about the nu-lore)
>>4005431So you're not the anon I responded to, just someone who came to tell me how much they don't care?
>>4005438>So you're not the anon I responded to, just someone who came to tell me how much they don't care?Correct. In retrospect, I should have prefaced my post with NTA for clarity, but I thought that it would be obvious that it was a drive-by response to a single line, and not a wall of text slapfight.
>>4005440>In retrospect, I should have prefaced my post with NTA for clarityIndubitably
>>4003630>no no you dont get it the reason no one could rebuild anything after 200 years on the east coast is because of the instituteIts kinda depressing what kind of dogshit Bethesda-Fans will come up with to justify poor writing.
>>4005368>The Fallout 3 story has no consequences, and neither does 4Of course they do, the same one as Fallout 1 (and Tactics). The cleansing of the wastelands and the rise of a great power.Your next line is "umm, that's a bad thing, actually!"
>>4005828Explain Arroyo.You can't.
>>4006451>The cleansing of the wastelands and the rise of a great powerNothing rises in the Capital Wasteland thoughever.
>>4006454What is there to explain?Are you mentally retarded?
>>4001423>dragon born powers 3.0, called 'desert born'erm you mean sword singing. you play as the last sword singer.
>>4006483Sure they do, same one as in Tactics and is what would happen if the BoS let the world in like Veronica wantsTurns out the BoS can get a lot more shit done with more bodies.Pretty consistent across the series, really.
>>4007184Don't worry about it, anon, you wouldn't get it. You need an IQ > 100 to understand what Arroyo needs explaining about.
>>3997564mango sentinel
>>4007571>t. didn’t tag speech
>>4007567What the hell are you talking about and how's that work as a reply to nothing growing in the Capital Wasteland you utter schizo.
>>4005079Something that doesn't waste my time with fluff content, unskippable cutscenes and unskippable dialogue. I swear Skyrim now is just 5 seconds of click-A-to-continue questing bookended by ten minutes of walking to the nearest door (Or worse, following a scripted character walk as slowly as possible to point B) and waiting on load screens. So what I'm saying is I'm bored of video games now and I just run ProgressQuest in the background while I doomscroll and shitpost my way across the internet.
>>4007639>replies "nothing rises" as a reply to "rise as a great power">I-It was a-about growingFucking retard. But let's be charitable and engage with your retardation. Project purity gave them clean water and even killed of some mutated lifeforms like Mirelurks. Rivet City and the BOS also know how hydroponics work. They could absolutely grow food.
>>4010775>unskippable cutscenes and unskippable dia*runs into the NPC currently talking*>I swear Skyrim now is just 5 seco*runs into him again*>So what I'm saying is I'*runs into him again*shameyou shouldve stopped posting instead
>>4010843Running into the NPCs who are slow walking makes it worse.Maybe your time is worthless, mine isn't.
>>3997564>you'llNah I don't think I will.
>>3999497why him's kunai so beeg?
>>4010775>So what I'm saying is I'm bored of video games now and I just run ProgressQuest in the background while I doomscroll and shitpost my way across the internet.You beat the game.
>>4010775>Skyrim now is just 5 seconds of click-A-to-continue questing*circle strafes left behind you* heh, nothing personal, quest
>>4005079>What kinds of games did they move on to?>>4010775>another rant from someone with thousand hours on skyrimInsightful
>>3997716arena
>>4011552Tamriel is the Arena!
>>4011478I mean yeah, but it applies to every videogame with a story now. The story and features are fine the first time you play. Not so much the fourth or fifth time.
>>4005079 #>What kinds of games did they move on to?>>4010775 #>rant about skyrim>>4011637>story games no good after 5 timesHow to interpret this..
>>4011660By actually reading what I said instead of reductio ad absurdum.Making the game such that I can't skip the dialogue sequences or cut scenes on my Nth playthrough makes it not replayable.Morrowind was infinitely replayable, it didn't make me slow-walk behind Caius Cosades from the South Wall back to his house.
>>4011660I already told you what game I moved on to.https://progressquest.com
>>4012701Progress quest is from Morrowboomers’ time, not Skyrim kiddies
>>4005079>What kinds of games did they move on to?>>4012701>I already told you what game I moved on to.Bethesda should be worried about this one person not playing Skyrim for the 6th time
>>4012714>Bethesda should be worried about this one person not buying Skyrim for the 6th timeFtfy
>>4012714>Bethesda should be worriedOh, I'm sure they're not since millions of people bought the game and then never even made it out of the starter dungeon.
>>4006451>Of course they do, There are no consequences in Fallout 3. Fallout 4 is proof of this.
>>3997564>massive naval battles>return of morrowind's spells and magic systembait used to be believable
>>4002012sandshit only sucks cuz devs always forget when they're making these video games that it's usually a fantasy setting and not a real life desert so there's no excuse for there to not be way more stuff in a desert
>>3997564I have no doubt in my mind that TES 6: SKYRIM II will be dogshit. The real question is what will happen to bethesda when it inevitably flops. Will they get disbanded by microsoft? Will bethesda or its IPs get sold like saggy washed out 60 year old prostitutes?
>>4001791>roleplaying as a fort
>>4002001Acquiring stuff isn't roleplaying, faggot.
>>4016855It is.
>>3997564The game will be called TES6: Starfield2It will be set across a world 16 Billion times the size of Oblivion and you will do AI generated fetch quest with character "disigned" by a diverse team to inspire a modern audience.Expect nothing and a lot of minorities, paper thin gameplay and endless repeating game loops.Absolute current year
>>4016855Not usually, no. Though it can be. But that aside? Deciding how much effort you'll put into making a base in the first place, how you arrange it, how you decorate it, who you let in, how you equip them... that's all pretty obvious vessels for roleplaying.
>>4017589If there's a lot of them how can they be minorities
>>4017612>If there's a lot of them how can they be minoritiesThis is already the case now. They’re just playing word games to disarm you, because they’re dishonest and hate you.
>>4017626Who is "they", Anon?
>>3999497Veilguard suck so bad, and I actually bothered to beat it just so I could confirm it was 100% terrible with no redeeming qualities
>>4018121Veilguard is remarkable.I mean I've played bad games. I've played terrible games. I've played games so bad that they set a new benchmark for "so bad I can't handle it", in some aspect or another.Rarely, however, in decades of gaming, have I played a game that starts bad and just keeps getting worse. And when you think you've seen the absolute nadir? That the quality can't drop any lower? That the devs couldn't have possibly fucked up more? Fuck you. It keeps. Getting. Worse.By the end of it, it felt like I was being pranked, or taking part in some social experiment. So many parts of it are total dogshit - parts that historically they would at least TRY to make work, success aside - that I've grown convinced that one of two things happened. Either they fucked it up on purpose for some ungodly reason, or they were so damn laser-focused on 'muh graphix' and 'muh exploration gameplay' that they forgot literally everything else.Writing, of course, first and foremost, as it feels like the whole damn thing was written in one afternoon, from story to dialogue.
>body type 1>body type 2>only two races available, KARA and BOGA, all others are day 1 dlc and preorder exclusive>9.9999 on IGN>live action show starring your favourite pedophiles on amazon primeit's going to be a disaster isn't it
>>4018329I doubt any of that will be true except maybe body typesBethesda is way too committed to delivering mid ass bullshit now that they've somehow gaslit people into thinking 76 isn't a trash fire, it'll be Skyrim but with better graphics, done in a way that'll make everyone completely fucking baffled as to why it took so long to make
>>3997564Is this the Skyrim Together Reborn mod or the newer... Ezekiel or something... Skyrim multiplayer mod?Is it as entertaining as portrayed in this intellectual analysis / video essay by a respected traditional video gaming channel?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOIxc0X_Ywc>Black Panthers in Skyrim>recommend seeking out ZogWow.
>>3997564Too many syllables in that name
>>4018986Arena: 3Battlespire: 3Daggerfall: 3Morrowind: 3Oblivion: 4Skyrim: 2What the FUCK did they mean by this
>>3997564Sentinel is too high IQ a word for their audience, it'll be named dark shadows or something subliterate like that
Man people just can't help but make shit up to shit on the gameRemarkable considering it's going to be trash anyway, just in way less entertaining ways than people seem to want it to be
>>4019202Funny thing is it's going to be good and IT IS the most anticipated RPG of /vrpg/. Actually it might be the most anticipated RPG ever period full stop no cap
>>3999157>Castle and Stronghold buildingthat would be megabased, let me build the Anumidium too
>>4019269It was almost funny (and certainly believable as earnest) until you ruined it with the last part
>>4019978Is Cyberpunk 2077 the most anticipated RPG of all time?
>>4020123I would say Cyberpunk was more anticipated than TES6. CDPR was riding high on the success and popularity of Witcher 3, and there was years of huge hype for Cyberpunk. While Bethesda has been fucking up and hasn’t put out a good game in 15 years and has just had garbage and flops. Even TES fans think TES6 either won’t come out or will be meh.
>>4020139True, Witcher 3 had comparable sales to Skyrim, Cyberpunk had a long development as well.I still think TES 6 surpasses it in anticipation. It's been daily discussion for 15 years, and the eventual trailer will kick things into overdrive.
>>4020146The 'hype' is artificial. Bethesda kicked out its artists that have been there since Morrowind. Jeremy Soule - the only capable of making TES music - isn't composing. Shartfield was a catastrophe. You'll get another disgusting turd made by Pajeet and AI with paid mods up your ass.
>>4020151You're going to be playing and basedfacing with the rest of us when it releases. And it will cure your depression too.
>>4001726100%, I believe it.
>>4001999IDK, I really enjoyed the Hearthfire DLC stuff in Skyrim. It felt fun to slowly build my humble estate into a full-fledged manor. Get to come home to my lovely wife and kids or just to myself and read all the books I've been hoarding.
>>4002010Dear God, this is what they're gonna do.
>>4002012Have you ever been to the American Southwest? It's stunningly beautiful in various points. Just because something is a desert doesn't mean it has to be ugly.
>>4004678No you dumb faggots are part of the problem, coming into our franchise and our hobbies and being cows for these capitalist pigs to milk. We can't hold the IP owners to any real standards of behavior because you dumb queers are here now and will literally buy anything on some FOTM-FOMO shit.(You) cunts are the reason the Oblivion Remaster is poorly optimized shit. (You) are the reason the progression, levelling and character building system was changed to be something a Facebook Mom could figure out, thus gutting all the really cool builds you could have.Get the fuck out of our hobby and never come back.
>>4016802Why TF do people hate Skyrim so much exactly? I don't understand it.>it's not a real RPG!How? It's not bogged down with dated RNG mechanics and dice rolls? There's actual gameplay?What was even the point of advancing video game technology and making RPGs in it if we were going to be stuck in the same conventions of back when these games were all stuck on Commodore64s?You can just create a game with physics and mechanics that represents the world it is set in and then let the player roleplay in it by interacting with the world, questing, crafting and exploring while the world reacts to their presence in a meaningful way.Fucking RDR2 is actually an RPG - more of an RPG than most so-called, "RPGs," today.
If we're not living in WW3 by the time this comes out, you'll be forced to use game streaming platforms to play this. I realize it's fun to pretend like you're just going to go on living like you have for 20 years, but that's not happening. All you kids need to come to terms with this sooner rather than later. The tentpole franchises are what they'll use to force you into the new economy.
>>4002010>elfnazisThey’re clearly the Judeo-Bolsheviks, but everyone has been brainwashed by their projection onto muh Nazis
>>4020169For me, it’s Buttrustle!
>>4020184>implying i would ever buy a new release of an old IP in Current Year
>>4018900Academics, please respond
>>4020199You have a meme folder. You'll do what you're told.
>>4020596I like having my images easily retrievable. Cope about it ig.
>>4020636Reply again, bitch.
>>4020179>RDR2 is an RPG
>>4020179Red Dead Online>The Verge reported several users who played as black characters had been targeted by griefers posing as Ku Klux Klan-inspired clans or slave catchers who often called them racial slurs.Now that's what you call playing a roleBut seriously, Rockstar had incredibly good systems and potential for a role-playing game. Not in the boring way of>level up! damage and accuracy increased by 2%but actually acting out a role inside a living virtual world.
>>4018900>>4020560Nobody here knows...... we don't play on RP servers
>>4020679Now what, cuck-boy?
>>4020924It is. It's a game where you play in the role of a character and the way the world itself interacts with you puts you into the headspace of living the life of that character in the setting. It rewards you for making intelligent decisions and acting like the character in question. That's what role-playing games SHOULD be about.
>>4021023Correct and there were stat increases that made you better at things but you still had to actually mechanically play the game. If you are bad at third-person shooters and such yeah you're gonna suck at the game, but you progress in such a way that you become attached to your items and weapons.
>>4020151NTA but I think a lot of people will be hyped. Bethesda will release bullshit trailers, lie out of their ass and make it seem like it's the best thing since Morrowind, I mean they somehow made people think Starfield was going to be good.Then the game will release and Bethesda will finally die.
>>4021406RPGs are about capturing the feel of tabletop. That is what an RPG is. WRPGs and JRPGs both aim for this. RDR2 neither aims for nor succeeds in distilling the essence of tabletop roleplay.All video games are RPGs under your narrow definition.
>>4018900How many people play this?
>>4022352>RPGs are about capturing the feel of tabletopWroooong
>>4022352kill yourself
>>4022352If you want tabletop RPGs then go play Tabletop Simulator. But good luck with that since the hobby is crammed full of antisocial spergs and unstable troons who can't hold a group together without making everything about faggots now. Not to mention everyone is so non-committal and selfish that they can't even committ to a campaign or a game.Sorry but video games should not work like TTRPGs. We have mechanics and stats that can imitate how things should work in the world and that allow people to be immersed in the setting.
>>4022842>Not to mention everyone is so non-committal and selfish that they can't even committ to a campaign or a game. That's why people made CRPGs in the first place>Sorry but video games should not work like TTRPGs.Then you're on the wrong board
>>3997564Its going to be dogshit, Todd saw Baldur's Gate 3 and said "we're not going to do that" in an interview already. I've lost all hope the dude is a retard. He ruined the Fallout TV show too, TES6 will flop and it will be the end of Bethesda, M$ will shut them down and sell off the Elder Scrolls IP.My predictions:>No RPG elements whatsoever. Character race wont matter at all outside of appeatance. Your character building will be limited to a skill tree like Assassin's Creed. Skills will be removed completely>the story will be a good vs evil slopfest where you and the good Redguards fight off the fascist Thalmor with 0 nuance.>much of the game will be procedurally generated>it will still be as broken and buggy as ever
>>4020179>There's actual gameplay?What I find astonishing is that even lacking the mechanical depth of a typical RPG, Bethsoft still has never managed to make a game with actually decent feeling gameplay.
>>4023182But BG3 was fucking terrible.
>>3997564>No jeremy sovl>ESO is canon>Todd Howard will find a way to remove even more RPG elements>Will most likely contain Type 1 and Type 2 body types, may even have troons that of course won't be killableDOA i'm afraid
>>4023143It's you who's on the wrong board, champ.>>>/tg/
>>4023494>ESO is canonMMO's always end up fucking up established lore, but it's crazy just how bad ESO lore is. It feels like they just hate most of the previous lore and try to replace it whenever they can.
>>4023184I will say recently since the last RPG I played was VTMB I've not been enjoying how locked in you are on certain dialogue tree options to make certain things happen. Sometimes you have a remarkable lack of options in terms of how to solve a situation. You have to do things in a highly specific order, there's no expansive dialogue options for negotiaton, seduction, intimidation, etc.. Basically almost every problem is a nail and you're the hammer. Game is still fun, but that is an undeniable weakness. Not enough of one for me not to enjoy the game but it's worth mentioning and not something a younger me really noticed.
>>4023458Do you have actual reasons for saying that you'd like to share, or just being a funny contrarian? No, saying 'X element is shit' without elaborating isn't an argument either.
>>4023748>you can't say something is bad Seethe more.
>>4023748What are you going about? The writing was marvel avengers tier shit.
>>4022517>>4022765>>4022842>>4023541NTA but he's right. A game being 'immersive' and being able to 'le sit at the campfire and cook fish ZOMG just like actually surviving in the woods!!!1111' does not make it a ROLE PLAYING game. What CHOICES do you make to advance your character or the story in Red Dead 2?>You can customise your loadoutCool then I guess Call of Duty is an RPG.
>>4023785Not what I said. Making up shit to 'point out' so you can be smug is also not an argument.>>4023888It really wasn't.But then I'm quite confident you don't even know what 'marvel avengers tier shit' even actually implies.
>>4024819>It really wasn't.NTABG3 had the most immersion-breakingly cringe writing in any cRPG ever, to the point that if someone defends the writing or plot at all, their opinions and taste are immediately written off as irredeemable garbage.I can MAYBE understand someone with a difference of opinion of “yeah, there was a lot of dumb shit in it, but I still enjoyed the tactical combat and the exploration, and overall I had fun playing it” or something similar.
>>3997564>you'll restore the Empire to its golden ageI don't believe you.Every TES game has the empire fundamentally failing as a matter of central themes, there's no way they're reversing now.
>>4024825>Every TES game has the empire fundamentally failing as a matter of central themes, there's no way they're reversing now.You’re right to disbelieve OP’s LARP, but let’s be real, there’s no one left at Bethesda who knows or cares about this.
>>4024828Todd is still there and so is Pagliarulo.The empire hate from the writers (men hate really, which gets constantly tamped down in revision in the same way the humanity hate does in 40k) is one of the writing lows of the setting, so I have no reason to think that it will be gone now that the talented guys have left while the hacks remain. If anything it won't be tamped down by the needs of competent storytelling anymore.
>>4024825>Every TES game has the empire fundamentally failing as a matter of central themesStarting with Morrowind, maybe, if you take into account the rumors that turned out to be retconned/not true in Oblivion. And even then, it doesn't manifest itself 'til TES4 itself, and most of the work happens between games in Skyrim's background.The Empire directly benefits from the events of Daggerfall, with the Iliac Bay going from dozens upon dozens of warring kingdoms to only four big domains all ruled by the likewise Numidium-empowered Empire. Iszara getting to negotiate from a bit more of a position of strength in Redguard doesn't change the fact Septim conquers Hammerfell and the rest of Tamriel regardless, then ascends to godhood. Once more, Morrowind's events benefit the Empire, with Uriel sending you to Vvanderfell and you directly taking down the Tribunal leaving an Empire-backed Helseth in power. You could bring up Wulf, sure, but people tend to do this as if he was a standout encounter and not one of three, with Morrowind also featuring an avatar of Mara and Zenithar. And all Talos says is that it's time for some change, which you can interpret as the death of the Empire... but also, the Septim Empire did end at the end of the Third Era; Skyrim's Empire is a different, new one. So who's to say the Mede Empire isn't change enough? The point is this: meta-wise it's obvious Tamriel goes to shit the more games into it we get, but again most of the big changes actually only happened in the backstory of the very last game we've gotten: Ocato's murder, the Blades massacre, the Great War, none of it existed prior to Skyrim. Todd had the chance to make the Empire disappear after Martin's death. Not only did he decide to keep it going for another 200 years, it then allowed the player to join it and led them to victory over a civil war. Why do that if your franchise-wife narrative is meant to be about the Empire's crumbling?
>>4012777Mods disable achievements.
>>4020174>coming into our franchise and our hobbiesYou're the one that likes Oblivion, subhuman.>being cows for these capitalist pigs to milkI haven't bought a single Bethesda game in 15 years, thoughever?>We can't hold the IP owners to any real standards of behavior because you dumb queers are here now and will literally buy anythingYou bought Oblivion after Morrowind.>(You) cunts are the reason the Oblivion Remaster is poorly optimized shitYou're the kind of person that wanted an Oblivion demake to begin with, given how mad you are over the fact it's poorly optimized, implying you'd *want* to play it, vs it existing at all.>Get the fuck out of our hobby and never come backI'm sure you felt very brave replying to a post 26 days later and posting a Pepe. I'm just sorry you missed the entire point, and showed your 45IQ way of thinking along the way.
>>4024819Hey I'm not the one shilling BG3 in a TES thread and then fail to list a single positive thing about it.
>>4024867>Why do that if your franchise-wife narrative is meant to be about the Empire's crumbling?You answered yourself: if the narrative is about the empire crumbling, it can't actually fall or the story is over.It can only keep crumbling a bit more endlessly.Todd doesn't want the story to end, he'd need to find a replacement.
>>4024888>It can only keep crumbling a bit more endlesslySounds lame.>Todd doesn't want the story to end, he'd need to find a replacementHe already did, he called them the Thalmor.
>>4024841>(men hate reallyImagine being one of the people writing this shit like 25 years ago knowing that in the future you would have genuine autistic people arguing over whether your retarded roman empire larp thing is based on an evil feminist conspiracy because people would begin to associate the roman empire with projective masculinity in 2016
>>4025157>evil feminist conspiracyImagine being so ignorant you think self-hating is a new and externally motivated trend in arts and not a constant.Nowadays it gets pushed rather than tamped down, but it has always been there.
>>4017983People like to refer to them as jews, but in reality it's germans. Every evil thing that has happened in the past 1.5 millenia is the fault of the germ. Yes, even the chinese commie revolution.
>>4025336>germansWrong. It was all the fault of perfidious albion.
>snetinel>Send in Ale.
>>4024951Doing what they're doing to the Empire quietly is probably some form of avoiding things like >>4020152Watch what I say, the Skyrim Civil War resolution is gonna end with the Stormcloaks being berated left and right as racist and even playing a Nord is just gonna be a non-stop struggle session.I mean yeah you had, "racism bad," characters in Skyrim but it felt organic. Some people agreed with the Stormcloaks, others didn't. All their justifications made either ideological, political or economic sense. It's genius writing to where every character can justify their decisions based on their experiences and background or how the White-Gold Concordat affected them or didn't. It was perfect multi-choice adventure RPG writing.None of that is allowed anymore in AAAA studio writing. The ADL, literally, is binding dev studios to agreements to avoid getting their marketing shut down and to get funding for their projects. It's exactly what they did to World of WarCraft. Just google, "Fair-Play Alliance Blizzard," and you'll probably get the document itself.So like I said in my linked post from an older thread I genuinely believe axing the Empire is their way of avoiding pissing off long-time fans. One of the things people like about TES as a setting is not only how unique the races are but how relations between them and how they interact in society as well as the geopolitics all make sense. Nobody's a cut-and-dried bad guy. It all depends on your character's perspective and where you're looking at the issue from and the games never punish you for taking certain sides and if they do it's as a trade-off for other things you get.That will not survive Current Year Gayming. So the Empire is gonna get axed off-screen or become a bad guy controlled by the Thalmor. It's their only path forward that doesn't end with the fanbase entirely deserting the IP like they've been forced to everywhere else this jewry has come to reign supreme.
>>3999498Where's the blonde in bdsm harness with giga tits?
>>4018900I was in Skyrim's Black Panthers guild even tho I am a white guy. I just used AAVE.
>>3997564I'm expecting Starfield with swords and spells.This means a semi-handcrafted world but it mostly randomly generated. Handcrafted pieces will be major story beats or faction quest related.Sailing will replace flying a ship.Islands will be like planets, randomly generated.Magic creation will not exist.Different armor types will not exist and you will only have armor, helmet, 2 rings, and an amulet. By types I mean heavy, medium ,light.Weapons will be 2h and 1h only difference between a mace and a sword will be swing speed.Magic schools will be limited to Destruction, Illusion, Restoration, Conjuration. Alteration and Mysticism will be absent.The starter trait system from Starfield will return allowing you to be wanted or own a house or whatever from the start.There will be a replacement for dragon shouts, just like Starborn powers. They will have the same recycled ideas.NPC behaviors from the Radiant AI system will be once again tuned down. Important NPCs will have 2-3 locations they can be. Non important NPCs will have no schedule. You will once again be unable to kill NPCs tagged essential.Character creation and ship building will be the main focus. There will be demo for both released prior to game launch to generate hype.Settlement building returns and you will be able to make a fortress. It will get attacked randomly. You will be able to do the family stuff from Skyrim.Werewolves, vampires, and such will not exist.The game will be more action/adventure than RPG.
>>4026438There will be a heavy focus on Creation content as well. It will be very integral to the game and things will be purposely cut and removed from the game and be put in the store at launch. Really basic things like Glass weapons. They will be free but just there to teach the player how to use the Creation Club store.
>>4026438>This means a semi-handcrafted world but it mostly randomly generated.This would completely kill it for me. IMO Morrowind completely refuted the Daggerfall method.
>>4024841Pagliarulo was always hamstrung by Todd and Nesmith (the latter of whom is gone).By all accounts he’s a fan of the more bizarre, esoteric lore and was shot down by Nesmith when he wanted to insert stuff like barbaric, elf eating Nords who still practiced the old totemic religion, sky whales, and Talos cultists whose heads literally exploded when they tried to commune with him. His initial ideas for FO4 were more interesting too, though who knows who’s to blame for that. He wrote the only good questline in Saarfailed, so he’s still capable a churning out good work on occasion. He’s probably not the hack he’s made out to be and chances are the writing in VI will be the best the series has ever had, though admittedly it’s always had shit writing.
>>4028016>t. Emil
>>4028016in reality he has one thing, which is dragging in satanic panic shit he took seriously as a kid in the '80s
>>4028016>By all accounts he’s a fan of the more bizarre, esoteric lore Bullshit, he doesn't even understand Catholicism, which he claimed was the inspiration for DB. It still baffles me that this retard made my favorite Thief 2 mission
>>4028183He did good work when he was just a normal designer and he was responsible for a few quests, but he is completely unsuited for a leadership position.
>>4028144>satanic panic shit he took seriously as a kid in the '80sThreadly reminder that the tunnels under the McMartin preschool were real and the FBI worked with the media to conceal their existence.
These fakes suffer from the fact they don't ever mention the big thing confirmed back in TES 5
>>4032152Imagine thinking anyone at microsoft gives a fuck about loreshit
>>4001726>body type 1 and body type 2Both will be androgynous but the feminine one will be very slightly curvy, also modders won't have the power to give women nice curves
>>4001726I wonder if they'll stick with GTA civilians that phase out of existence when you turn a corner or if they go back to Skyrim where everyone has a house and a schedule but every city has to be a tiny playset
>>4033423It's not like anyone left at Bethesda does either.
