Just entered the Grindery. What do I think of it?
>>3998898You love it and you think Kyle is the best character.
>>3998953For me, it's Nash.But yes I do enjoy the game actually.
>>3998953you also think the jokes about IUDs are hilarious. (protip: they are)
I feel like a lot of visual charm was lost when the did the PS1 remake.
>>3998975No it didn't. Those are cherry-picked screens from a magazine.
>>3998898The Grindery...? That's the end of the game. So what did you think.
>>3998898One thing i like about this game is each platform has their own verson. They are all different. Still couldn’t finish the game.
>>3998987Well I like how the final boss wasn't a complete pushover despite me doing all the side content. In general, I think bosses scaling with your level is actually a good idea and more RPGs should do it. Although obviously Lunar isn't quite sophisticated enough to take advantage of that since Alex is Sword Dancing, Mia and Nash are casting fire and thunder, Jessica is healing and Kyle is doing Sword Dance Kyle Edition every boss fight.
>>3999340Silver Star Story is good but I was able to leave everything, even the final boss, on auto-battle. Stomped everything, no challenge at all.The same can't be done for the final boss in Eternal Blue, at least not unless you overlevel. Still I was able to auto-battle every boss other than the final one in the second game as well.The games are fun, memorable, cute, but there is very little challenge in the main game. Post-game might be harder, but I didn't bother with it yet in Eternal Blue.
>>3999368Even if you don't put everything on auto battle, Nash can just put everything to sleep for like 2/3 of the game. And then in the last 1/3rd Mia just gets a basically free screen nuke (Nash can still put most things to sleep failing that though)
>>3998987No?There's still a whole dungeon afterwards.
This ya'll's goat?
>>3999457well that's only because you aren't supposed to know that if you weren't a spoilerfag if you were cool, you wouldn't even need a recommendation
>>3999924He's a crossdresser too smfh
>>3999924>>4000265Don't care, he gets the best girl so he wins.
>>3999924Tfw he turns me gay
>>4000272I gotta be honest. Jessica is really hot but their constant bickering has gotten to the point of actually draining my enjoyment a little bit. It really feels like someone on staff has spent a long time around a couple like that so kudos to them I suppose for capturing that dynamic.
Signs your game came out before 9/11
>Final dungeon music is the world map themeHoly LUDO
>>3998975Literally spoiling endgame dungeons and scenarios, what the fuck
>>3999368Sega CD or PS1/Saturn remake?
Honestly, this shit still doesn't make sense to me.
>>4001148Ghaleon genuinely does love the world and believes he has good intentions, he's just extremely delusional. Hence why he has literal slaves tending his beautiful garden.
>>4001152That side of him really doesn't make sense considering how much of a hammy evil wizard he is in every other sense. Then again, his motivations for turning to evil don't make sense either. Althena gave up her powers to stop humans from going at each other's throats over trying to appease her, and he's pissed at this because...? Well, because.Then Lunar 2 tries to kind of redeem him, which muddies the waters even further.I guess what I'm saying is despite Lunar's casts having a lot of charm, the villains kind of suck.
>>4001170I totally agree. But that's what they were going for.I think it makes slightly more sense in the Sega CD version where his best friend had his powers stripped in a battle that only happened because of a failure on the Goddess' part (inability of her magic to cover the entire moon). So he has to ask how long until it's his turn to lose "everything" in service of an incompetent and weak goddess?I think Dhaos from Tales of Phantasia has a similar problem where he's just too comically evil most of the time to believe he actually had mostly good intentions.
>>4001175>I think Dhaos from Tales of Phantasia has a similar problem where he's just too comically evil most of the time to believe he actually had mostly good intentions.I don't really see them as similar. Ghaleon's motivations are murky and poor-explained/thought out. Dhaos' problem is that his motivations aren't revealed until like literally the last 30 minutes of Phantasia.I always thought Phantasia would've been way cooler if Midgard was like the Empire from FF6 or Secret of Mana and Dhaos was the leader of a resistance faction that ended up being defeated. Would've made the story make way more sense.
>>4001189Dhaos also has the problem of a lot of his minions being demons and thus actively trying to undermine his goals when they think he isn't looking since they want the Mana Tree dead. While Ghaleon's minions are all completely loyal despite the fact he obviously doesn't care about any of them.
>>4001148The evil villain having a beautiful garden in his evil dungeon stuck with me. Very cool little area.
>>4001170>and he's pissed at this because...? Well, because.they never told him Dyne was alive. By the time he found out he was committed to the cause>Then Lunar 2 tries to kind of redeem him, which muddies the waters even further.Althena is a retarded goddess so Ghaleon is easy to redeem.>I'm going to off myself and not deal with Zophar. Hell I won't even tell my sister/avatar Lucia so that see can be prepared>good luck guys!
>>3998959Nash is GOAT, I just kinda hate how the game fumbles his arc. If you pay attention to NPC chatter, it's pretty clear he's keeping things from the party. The closer you get to his moment of betrayal, it becomes obvious he's not really on Ghaleon's side, but legitimately thinks the party stands no chance of beating him, and he's only betraying them to save Mia's life because she's the first person who treated him like a person and not the douchebag he generally is. But then during his big scene in the Grindery, that all just kinda gets lost and it seems like he's just a retarded douche in a clown robot who doesn't know who the good guys are.Makes me wonder if different writers handled the main plot and the inexhaustible NPC chatter, so his true motive kind of got lost in translation.
>>4000280Kyle's tight little dumper
>>3999457It's the final dungeon in the Sega CD version.
>>3998898You're not playing the actual Lunar, you're playing a fanfic.
>>3999368>Silver Star Story is good but I was able to leave everything, even the final boss, on auto-battle.Bullshit.
>>4001276>they never told him Dyne was alive. By the time he found out he was committed to the causeThat's only in the original, where his goals make senseIn the remake, Ghaleon never thought Dyne was dead. He saw the whole reincarnation happen
>>4003727I'm not playing any Lunar because I beated it.
>>4000974Tbf there's not really anything there that would be a spoiler to a new player.
>>4003728If they played the HD remaster, that's very possible. The PS1 version had the difficulty increased quite a bit for the NA release. The actual game is pretty damn easy.
>>4003728>>4005913It seems that the Working Designs difficulty boost wasn't such a bad thing for Lunar SSSC. It actually sounds better than the original in this case.
>>4005915>Working Designs difficulty boost wasn't such a bad thing for Lunar SSSCYeah, people just like to bitch whenever any baka gaijin localizer makes a change to glorious nippon programming, but I think it ultimately helped the game, because it's no masterpiece of battle mechanics to begin with.You definitely have to grind a bit early on to get up to speed in the WD version, but once you get a feel for all your abilities and learn which enemies to prioritize killing, you can just go all out every battle and it keeps you engaged, even though your strategic options are limited.The original game was so easy you have no reason to engage with anything, which is probably exactly why WD made the call.
>>4005933>You definitely have to grind a bit early on to get up to speed in the WD versioyeah but the niggers who made retroarch achievements have level caps for some of them
>>3998898Is the script and combat balance different in the remaster? Please respond
>>4012556Who gives a fuck about cheevos in the 2026
I've been playing some of Lunar 2 and it gives me some of the same happy feelings I remember having when I was a kid having fun reading a fantasy adventure book. I should pick reading back up eventually
>>4000287I don't usually like the tsundere archetype but Jessica pulls it off well imo cause she's spunky and cute, and Kyle gives as good as he gets
>>3998898etrian odyssey is a better game; Valkyrie profile, vagrants tale algorithm
>>4012579The script is different because they cut out all the currently-offensive jokes WD made. And by "cut out", I mean just that - they removed the jokes but left the rest of the script intact. I believe the balance is back to JP original, but don't quote me on that. It's like the most worthless rework of SSSC/EBC you could have. Even Lunar Legend and Harmony have more interesting parts about them.
>>4001148you should try finding a nice garden or park that doesn't have anyone in it and sitting in it sometime, when the weather is good.
>>4013033Lunar 2 is peak comfy kino, especially the first half
>>4016495alright thanks, might get the saturn original instead.
>>3999340what the hell...kyle why you got makeup on.....
>>4000503WoW came out in 2004 and has a npc that has a voice over that calls you infidels
>>4005915>>4005913That's an insane jump in difficulty. The games were really that easy in Japanese? People bashed the PSP remake and GBA port for being too easy but it seems like they just matched the difficulty of the original
>>4016495I actually prefer how Lunar Legend handles some parts of the story
