I don't get the hype.
DaS > DaS3 > ER > DeS > DaS2I think original DeS is absolutely worth playing for its historical relevance and weird experimental design but it's also probably the single most overrated game in the series.
>>4004110It's a trial and error game for people with depleted self worth. When the player eventually overcomes the obstacles the game puts up, it simulates a sense of accomplishment and makes the fan believe they have some sort of value as a person. It's a very clever set up IMO.
>>4004194>DeS>overratedBy whom? I almost never see it mention anywhere outside of /v/'s contrarian threads (which I'm sure is the same handful of autists, they literally always post the same screenshots). The remaster just kinda came and went, okay cool graphics this is sick, but wait the game is clunky af and the bosses are babby tier and the PVP is all kinds of unbalanced and retarded, and that was thatAlso,>DS1 that high>hey guys do I fit in yet, old game good r-right?>>4004330Every game, both virtual and IRL, is trial and error, if you never lose there is no game.
>>4004334>believes chess is a trial and error game
>>4004110Me neither. I'm not the biggest Fromsoft fan, but I had far more with any of the Souls games.
>>4004400fun
>>4004395literally everyone who is good at chess got there by trying a strategy and getting crushed until they found the right strategy
>>4004110It's ok. It's not everyone's cup of tea.
>>4004843People that are good at chess don't just use one strategy.
It was the first souls game for most people. I've personally enjoyed the Dark Souls series more, which in my opinion had a much stronger art direction and theming than Elden Ring. that to me feels very scatter-brained with its ideas in comparison.
Imma do a fresh run now that this baby is out.
>>4004334>By whom?There are a small handful of people that will fight to the death over their stance on DeS somehow being superior to every other Souls game.Like I said, the game's neat, there are a lot of cool ideas an interesting boss concepts, but the game is unpolished the builds lack diversity and it's generally inferior to its follow ups.>DS1 that highPhenomenal world and level design and the most memorable selection of bosses will do that, yes. Plus it just feels so clean to play, all your defensive options feel great and there's actually a reason to swap around armor depending on the fight (meanwhile armor is just pointless in DaS2 and medium rolling is practically just as good as light rolling in 3 and ER so why would you ever go light outside of pvp cheese). Everything is just so elegantly and deliberately designed. The only Souls game that comes close to being as generally good is DaS3 but DaS3 just lacks that nonlinearity that makes 1 so damned good.>b-but it's the easiest...Who cares, Soulsfags are fucking mind broken about the difficulty meme. That's not what made the games fun.
>>4008556ntaThe main thing I dislike about about DeS is how floaty the impacts feel, both on you and on the enemies. I'm not terribly keen on all the gimmicky boss fights either, they might be ok thematically but they make for boring gameplay.The problem with DS1 is that it's unfinished. Demon Ruins & Lost Izalith are just a boring mess.My favorite in the series is the least RPGish one, Sekiro. A very lean & tight package all around.
>>4008746>The main thing I dislike about about DeS is how floaty the impacts feel, both on you and on the enemies.Yeah, I think generally it's not a great feeling game. A small but kind of funny nitpick I have is that, despite the numerous areas with verticality, you have no meaningful way of engaging with enemies under you thanks to the game lacking a plunging attack. With that context it's actually really funny that DaS1 went out of its way to show off its new plunging attack, almost as if the devs realized this was genuinely a flaw in DeS.>I'm not terribly keen on all the gimmicky boss fights either, they might be ok thematically but they make for boring gameplay.I appreciate what they do for shaking up the gameplay, and honestly I really do wish some puzzle elements were kept moving forward. It feels like, by the time we reached ER, the gameplay had devolved into a very formulaic pattern of spacing, rolling, and reacting to openings.>Demon Ruins & Lost Izalith are just a boring mess.I'd agree, I think those might be the weakest parts of DaS1. That said I do think people overstate the whole "last third of DaS1 sucks" thing, Duke's Archives are still a good dungeon and the DLC areas are great.
>>4004194No>>4004110>xi do nothing, win anyway, yayNew China game fun souls ok
>>4008858>by the time we reached ER, the gameplay had devolved into a very formulaic pattern of spacing, rolling, and reacting to openings."devolved"That's what it always was. New players are as as content as you were on your first souls game.
>>4008863Cool, but don't you have a spreadsheet simulator to get back to?
>lake or rot>annoying area but actually has some interesting lore>what's the boss going to be>something rot themed?>something related to the outer god of rot?>nope>another dragonkin soldier and an astel>not a single unique bossAnyone that acts as if Fromsoft games have good worldbuilding needs to get shot.
>>4009070Dark Souls has good world building.Elden Ring has shit world building. That's what happens when you hire a hack to write your lore.
>>4004110elden ring sux
