>>4004139
No, Disgaea is a very niche series. It's ostensibly a turn-based tactics game but you can grind everything, over and over, e.g. you can take any piece of equipment and enter it as a randomized dungeon, completing which will raise the item's stats, you can do this repeatedly, with all equipment, your units can go to level 9999, then reset back to 0 while keeping some of the stats, then you grind them to 9999 again. This kind of extreme grinding (and a long post-game to accomodate it) is the entire appeal. Here's an old popular video about Disgaea 5 (which is generally agreed upon to be the best in the series) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSW9t4UGMw4

Are you looking for a tactics game specifically? Tactics Ogre (Reborn) would be my first recommendation. Much more serious story (rather than an onslaught of anime humor like in Disgaea) and minimal grinding, the remaster literally has level caps, you can't outgrind the challenge.

>>4004139
>I'm a massive WRPGfags
I'm going to be perfectly honest. No Japanese srpg is going to appeal to your niche. I like Japanese and western srpgs and really wish Japanese would borrow more from western srpgs but Japanese(korean and chinese too) srpg are far more simpler and brain dead than western spreadsheets despite how some of them have crazy mechanics. If you still want to go in with that mindset then the Disgaea series is a bit more over the top compared to any normal srpg. The series is all about overpowering your units and seeing big numbers on screen, pushing your stats into the billions. The story mode is 1/3 of the games, post game is when it really revs up as they usually have a ton of post game content.

None of the mechanics are ever explain in game so most of it is you reading up online on how to get stronger and each game just stacks newer mechanics. So much that if you play the later games first, you're looking at reading up on novels of mechanics so its sometimes better to just start with the first game.

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>>4004139
You are doing the equivalent of diving into the Mariana Trench!

Here's the plan.....
Start with
>Sword of Mana
>Secret of Mana
>Seiken Desetsu 3 or Trails of Mana
>Legend of Mana
>Visions of Mana
this one got chinafied, but the gameplay is the same

These titles are action based and can ease you into other genres
Srpg Wise you need to do this slowly or else you will lose interest
like I said in the other thread....


>Arc the Lad Collection
PLAY WITH A GUIDE. It's from that era they were trying to sell them. You will miss out on secret quests, one time items

One is a prologue to two, it starts off a little slow; but it picks up.
>FFTA
It's much easier than Tactics, but it will get you into it

>FFT
Watch HCBailly's let's play, he really breaks everything down and makes it much more accessible
>NIS series
play in order
>rhapsody
>la pucelle
play the psp version or PC
>disgaea
pc or psp
>phantom brave
pc or wii
>Makai kingdom
psp
>disgaea 2
\pc or psp
>prinny can I be the hero?
>soul nomad
>disgaea 3
Vita version or PC
>prinny can I be the hero? 2
>Zettai hero project
>disgaea 4
>disgaea D2
>disgaea 5

Quality of life makes it hard to return to other games after the fact. Also story.

>>4004139
If you're just playing it because you think Etna and/or Flonne are hot, it's worth it. The game is simple but decently fun.
If you're looking for a standard jarpig, Disgaea isn't it. Everything about it is deliberately parody-tier.

>>4004245
you're scaring him holy sh8
at least make an iceberg image instead of rambling like this

>>4004357
well if he dives in the deepend, he'll lose interest.

>>4004139
Play Persona 5.

>>4004494
Best advice ITT. Or Fire Emblem Three Houses.

>>4004139
op, ignore everyone else in this thread. there's no such thing as a "beginner" video game. if something looks interesting to you, just try it out. you wanna play disgaea? go for it dude. play it on ps2.

>>4004633
Yeah there is, you sound zoomish.
Mario RPG is a beginner JRPG, for sure. Diving in headfirst into the deep end is going to make you hate the title, I didn't like final fantasy tactics at first because I was too young and inexperienced.

>>4004628
Common man that's troll shit, again that's for experienced players. Once units die in fire emblem they are dead for good!.

>>4004647
>I didn't like final fantasy tactics at first because I was too young and inexperienced
Man I figured it out when I was like 11, what the hell were you doing?

>>4004648
>too many units given to you
>too many classes
>you could screw yourself and get stuck

you needed some direction, I figured it out at 14/15

>>4004651
>too many units given to you
>too many classes
>you could screw yourself and get stuck
they are actually the main reason you could get lost and addicted to it though.
and what's the easiest time period in your life if it is not during childhood?

personality differences might differ though.

>>4004653
Life is much easier now than in my childhood.
>great and fun job in which I work from home
>networking events galore with interesting folks
>worked on dream projects before and will do so again
>information at my finger tips
>inexpensive PC repair up the street

As opposed to
>Having to wake up at 5:45am-7:45 am dependent on the period of my life
>shit ton of homework
lived a school district that was trying to get funding through test scores
>have to go to bed early
>at the mercy of network television till 02'
>couldn't drive till mid 16 year olds and the county I lived in had a law that kids under a certain age from driving at nine
>tvs stung one eyes until 02'

Life is much better now.

>they are actually the main reason you could get lost and addicted to it though.
I am saying that there are points in the game you really could get stuck with no way back if you didn't know what you are doing. You had to really be prepared, when I came back to it, I knew what to do and got through the game easy.

>>4004245
>>FFTA
>It's much easier than Tactics, but it will get you into it
It's not really easier, i would say it's actually much harder, do to a huge nerf of monk class and being forced to waste 10 times more on getting a double hit for your ninja, since you getting it through a unique weapon that demand you to grind specific clan stat, instead of just being a skill you unlock almost instantly. Oh right, also laws existence.

>>4004647
>Common man that's troll shit, again that's for experienced players. Once units die in fire emblem they are dead for good!.
nu-emblem's is piss easy on normal difficulty and shouldn't be a trouble for him, they not even die there anymore either unless you choose a specific classic mode. Besides, he looking to play a jrpg for a first time, not games in general.

>>4004647
>i didn't like the grownup game because i played it when i was a baby
ok well op is certainly old enough to play this game since he's on this site.

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>>4004662
>10 times more on getting a double hit for your ninja, since you getting it through a unique weapon t
ok that was a bitch, but still, the game overall is easier.

>. Oh right, also laws existence.
Ezel will help you out when the time comes so don't worry about it, it's just a matter of getting the right day.

> they not even die there anymore either unless you choose a specific classic mode
Wow, times have changed, I haven't played one since the sixth generation, that's kinda bitch made truth be told.

>>4004663
Well I loved it later on! I am just saying going from WRPG to that is quite the jump.

>>4004660
I'm gonna have to say that getting stuck is part of the charm.
And yes you are gonna encounter soft-locks like accidentally ruining your save files before the big bad fights.

Also what I forgot to complete my sentence: it should be "what is the easiest time period for you to have lot of free time and get lost in your childhood"

Sure you can say that right now you have the best time in your life due to your personal circumstances, but for other people that doesn't always apply.

>>4004677
>I'm gonna have to say that getting stuck is part of the charm.
Honestly that's not cool, in my opinion.


>but for other people that doesn't always apply.
alright fine I shouldn't be selfish in that regard

>>4004139
No because it's more of a tRPG/sRPG

Play FFVII

Yeah wtf are you doing, just play the classics and if you like it go into more weird shit
Ff7/10/6/9
Dq 8/11
Fire emblem most of them desu if you want srpg
Persona 3/4/5
Devil survivor 1 for little more niche srpg
Smt 4/strange journey
Popular shit is popular for a reason, it's really appealing to most people even if people don't want to admit it

>>4004824
>>4004694
You are both sound like nowheresvilliers, if a WRPG player starts with that they are going to say it's "gay" because it's turn based. They have to be eased into the genre.

>>4004862
>if a WRPG player starts with that they are going to say it's "gay" because it's turn based. They have to be eased into the genre.
You are either retarded, or a zoomer. Literally millions of players started with 7 as their first FF and loved it, many of whom would later go on to play the earlier SNES titles after the fact. That’s why 7 was so wildly successful and popular, it’s broad and mainstream appeal. Shitloads of kids got a PlayStation and FF7 for Christmas that year.

>>4004866
I enjoy it sure, and many JRPG players did the same; . however we are conversing with WRPG players their mentality is completely different from ours. I was just saying that the most WRPG like JRPGS would be the best way to ease in rather than a classic title that would seem dated to them now.

>>4004877
>their mentality is different from ours
Just because you made being a JRPG gamer your personality doesn't mean everyone else does the same with their genres.

>>4004944
well I am a game artist, what the fuck do you want?

>>4004183
nah I feel like the most popular Disgaea tends to be 1 or 2 because of their writing and less feature bloat. 4 gets yaoi baiting and 5 is more a "if you want the most advanced pre-3D game it's this", and I say this as someone who likes 5.

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Warpig = All females are ugly as fuck, but they know how to make open world.
Jarpig = All Jarpigs are linear tunnels, but they know how to make hot females.

>>4005199
that isnt' even a warpig. also since you are using a non-warpig example, there are even more of them
e.g. Lara Croft, Ciri, Elizabeth, Alice etc

>>4005254
>that isnt' even a warpig.
Why not?

>>4005256
how is TLOU an RPG ?

>>4005262
rpg made by westoids.

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>>4004139
Closest game i can recommend to you is trails in the sky and trails to zero. This is on merit of ggameplay not story though i like it. Its the most non wargame trpg that exists afaik. Maybe only surpassed by marisa and liartop mountain witch is an actual crpg without much emphasis on battles

>>4004139
If you've never touched a jrpg before, any of the SNES Final Fantasy games would be a good place to start (so IV-VI). IV might be a little basic, but it's still a very classic game in the genre. Chrono Trigger is another great place to start, and though it's widely considered to be one of the best games in the genre, it's still very easy to get into as someone with no jrpg experience at all. Can't really go wrong with any of these options.

>>4005264
tlou is absolutely not an RPG.
having some elements of progression doesn't automatically make a game an RPG.

>>4005341
>tlou is absolutely not an RPG.
It is though. You play the role of a dad who travel through apocalyptic world with his dautheru.

>>4005345
if you broaden the scope to that level literally every adventure game is an RPG
RPGs need to have a progression system and number-crunching shenanigans

op aint ever gonna play any of this shit anyway

>>4009299
>if you broaden the scope to that level literally every adventure game is an RPG
Correct, Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis is an RPG
>RPGs need to have a progression system and number-crunching shenanigans
It features a numerical progression as you gain “IQ” (Indy Quotient) points through the game

>>4009494
OK now make a youtube video about this, the enlightened one

>>4005345
Your mother plays the role of someone whose son isn't a dumb faggot