Cyberpunk 2077 gave me feels
>three lifepaths, three pre-canned faces, three endings (more or less)Really makes u think
>>4004594there's like 10 endings dude
>>4004595Many are minor variations.>Corpo path, corpo ending>Nomad path, nomad ending>Street kid path, helicopter assault endingThere’s a few other permutations, like doing the helicopter assault as Johnny, and the final choice at the end, and there’s always the “blow your own head off” option, but broadly speaking there’s three main paths to get to the end that align with the three lifepaths (what little didn’t get cut of them anyway)
>>4004593use case for feelings?
>>4004593>muh feelsthe Bladerunner games were more emo.
>>4004827>the Bladerunner games were more emo*BLAM*
>>4004599>Street kid path, helicopter assault endingJust walking into main doors is Johnny ending.
>>4005384You’re right. Haven’t done the Johnny version since the game came out and misremembered
>>4004593The main story picked up at the end, but the dlc was kino all the way through.great music too
>>4004593Never fade away
>>4005396The first person on this board to admit they were wrong
>>4005548i honestly cried a bit reading that.
>>4005548>The first person on this board to admit they were wrongBe the change you want to see in the shithole.I can recall acknowledging that I was factually incorrect on this board at least two or three times over the years. I walk through the threads with a lantern, looking for an honest anon.
Is it worth the cost of admission on sale? Never played it, but I have a 3070
>>4005932>Is it worth the cost of admission on sale?Yes. It’s not the game they promised during development, but if you accept it for what it is, rather than the game we were expecting, it’s fun.>Never played it, but I have a 3070You should be OK. Turn raytracing on for five minutes to ooh and aah and then leave it off for better FPS.
>>4005934I knew it was going to be shit thanks to my shit sense, but if it's a genuinely enjoyable trip now then I don't mind.
>>4005932Hell yeah it's worth it
>>4005934>it’s fun.play Syndicate FPS for less buggy streamlined cyberpunking.play Shadowrun for Genesis for more /tg/-like gameplay... and magic elves and a trollbro.
>>4005932magnet:?xt=urn:btih:d6a1f1bf801230c365859837fda17a623f00c3bb&tr=udp://tracker.opentrackr.org:1337/announce&tr=udp://exodus.desync.com:6969/announce&tr=udp://open.stealth.si:80/announce&tr=udp://tracker-udp.gbitt.info:80/announce
>>4005952I can get it off ggn I've just been too lazy to fuck with it.
>>4005958>ggnyou mean gog-games? rutracker has a portable version no need to waste time with the gog installer
>>4004593Pistols feel like shit to fire. Even Starfield had better firing animationsBut it can be a fun game albeit miserable and not very rpg as one would expect
>>4004599There is nomad, arasaka, rogue, johnny, suicide, and then the two endings from PL.
>>4004593btw Cyberpunk 2 anime is announced...
>>4009270looks even more derivative and gay
>>4009256Correct. Leaving aside the expansion endings, those are the ones I named, with the Johnny path being a modified variant of the Rogue ending.
>>4009270>We have Astolfo at home
>>4009602that's a real biowoman. or so i assume because i am not gay.
>>4004593Same.>https://youtu.be/kmt8WmTenVE>>4005958That was gog-games by the way.>>4006000A private tracker it seems.
>>4009270A pleasant surprise. The first one was really good.
>>4010557>A private tracker it seems.all you need is to register, no email verification requiredso called semi-private
>>4005932I liked it way more than I thought I would. I'm desperate to play something similar but nothing else is really scratching the itch.
>>4005934The only thing(s) people were "expecting" that I agree with that could count as "promised" was a story with more branching dialogue and more developed lifepaths. Most things people whine about are minor and almost certainly wouldn't have changed the gameplay that much. The one thing that really pisses me off about the outrage that people had over this game is that it turned off investors and severely limited interest in continuing development on it. We probably would have got a few more expansions, and an online component if people didn't bitch and moan about a few bugs that arguably had no impact on the game. I played through it twice at launch and never encountered a game/quest breaking bug, or dozens of flying cars, or infinite spawning police, and whatever else people cried about. At worst, I had a some unlootable bodies, pedestrians freaking out and causing accidents, and some bugged street encounters that turned the police on me.And I actually like pre2.0 Cyberpunk more than what we have now. A lot of the interactables are scaled to stats/levels now, and that's kind of bullshit. I didn't care about the wardrobe shit either, I just wore whatever I wanted and took the defense hit as a challenge.
>>4014523>people didn't bitch and moan about a few bugs that arguably had no impact on the gamegame no worky!playstation offer a refund! never befo seen!it was that bad, I'm glad CDPR got a backlash but they also sold way too many copies
>>4014650Yeah, releasing on last gen was also a retarded mistake, but the game not being able to run properly isn't really the same thing as one that just runs like shit. The hardware simply could not support the game and it should havenever released on it.
>>4014523>The only thing(s) people were "expecting" that I agree with that could count as "promised" was a story with more branching dialogue and more developed lifepathsThe RPG elements. The lifepaths, the classes (reduced to mere clothing sets in the final game), more choices to roleplay something other than 'streetkid merc solo'. In their own marketing materials, before release they stopped calling it an RPG and started calling it action-adventure. Somewhere along the way, much of the initial vision withered away, and we got something like a cinematic action-adventure looter shooter GTA clone with light RPG elements. That's what I meant by that it wasn't the game they started developing, but it can still be fun if you accept it for what it is.>if people didn't bitch and moan about a few bugs that arguably had no impact on the game. I played through it twice at launch and never encountered a game/quest breaking bugI played it once at launch on a good PC, and it was playable and not unusually buggy. I think a lot of the bitching was from consoles.>dozens of flying carsThe car is buggier now, imo. Like 25% of the time you call it it lands upside down for me.>or infinite spawning policeThis was definitely a thing, it was pretty crazy. You could be standing on the roof of a skyscraper with no way up and cops would spawn right behind you.>And I actually like pre2.0 Cyberpunk more than what we have nowIt's a mixed bag imo, some good some bad. The new level scaling is fucking retarded, and they also reduced build diversity by consolidating and shoehorning everything together. And by taking stats from clothing and putting it on cyberware, heavily nerfed "no chrome" runs. But some of the changes were good, the grinding treadmill for loot was fucking stupid at launch, and some things like it taking thousands of clicks to craft a single legendary crafting component out of basic ones were just retarded, like no dev had ever actually tried it or thought about it.
>>4014686everyone forgot about it, gamers are more forgiving than liberal women forgiving their rapists, smts (shaking my titanium skull)
>>4014722What benefit would unforgiveness have when it comes to games?
>>4014732none, as gamers are unable to boycott productsCoD pre-order numbers etc etc
>>4014774I’ve been boycotting Creative Assembly since Empire: Total WarI’ve been boycotting EA since Battlefield 5I’ve been boycotting Larian since BG3 (been pretty easy to do desu)
>>4014779What games have you been forced to pass up so far?
>>4014779I pirate noncetendo games just to appear in statistics like 10 decadecillion dollars lost to piracy>larianonly good larian game was divinity 2, 2009 game not the turn based oneI doubt they need the money, but you did buy mount and blade at 50% off right?
>>4004593Feels good.
>>4016076didn't see you at the car meetup?
>>4016113Things happened and I got sidetracked a bit.
i need to get back to finishing my game at some point. been doing sort of a completionist game. most of the gigs and ncpd events are done, some of the story. i still havent done PL either. i heard its pretty good.
>>4016076They should be selling models of these.
>>4004593>feelsPhone Jackie. I know he's dead. Call him anyway.
>>4010868ME trilogy, don't listen to the haters just play the legendary edition its usually 5 bucks on steamGoated companions in that game.DA1 is dope too.
>>4017247>legendary editionInferior.
>>4017340Elaborate.
>>4016505>ncpd eventsAre those worth bothering with? I always just sped right past them.
>>4017347Most of them are just exp and loot, but some of them have iconics or schematics for one, you get shards for extra skill exp, sometimes some other high quality items.
>>4017484But do they lead to any story bits or unique quests?
>>4017491I did all of them in some older version and only Regina cyber psycho quest was done by doing them. Can't remember any other so I skipped it on my subsequent playthrough.
>>4017491There are some "hidden" or extra missions you can get from some of the ncpd's, but its nothing related to the story really.
>>4017347>I always just sped right past them.But anon, criminals are terrorizing the innocent citizens of night city! Don’t you want to stop and help those poor people?
>>4017622Are we sure? I had an impression that a quest may lead you to ncpd place, so I can see that if you first went to ncpd it would trigger that quest but is there any quest you can miss if you don't do them?
>>4017961None of the story quests link to any ncpd missions. The missions you can pick up from ncpd's are usually just extra drive over here and loot this stuff type of thing, maybe some more people to fight.
>>4018496outfit sucks, desu.
>>4018496>>4020106here is some ideas for you anon
>>4018496>>4020106>>4020109
>>4020109these pants have a neat little jingle to them, too.
>>4004593not a rpg
>>4021812and people are gonna keep posting about it anyway, so quit crying about it.
>>4004699The placement of that poster behind him is a little bit on-the-nose, isn't it. Just the perfectly cynical take down. It absolutely assassinates any shred of coolness he's trying to aura farm right there.
>>4021837silverhand is no more useful/productive than a fatmuscle faggot on a toilet seat
>>4004593Cyberpunk is an under developed genre. Hard to keep finding experiences in that type of world.
>>4021837>he's trying to aura farmzoomerspeak. can't take u le srzzzzly .
>>4014779>BG3it's a white man's game that allows you to play as a white dude or a white woman, who's not ugly for once.
>>4014774COD never went woke. they just got bloated and boring. like normie sports games.
>>4022225>>4022228both of these games are chuck full of homos and non-whites and homosexual non-whiteshomo couple at the baldurian gate, cod black lady soldiers n shieeet
>>4005932It's really great. I don't think your GPU will have a problem, i played it on medium (iirc) on my 1660. and finished the whole game.
>>4004593Cyberpunk 2077 is a shit game and you're a shit person for thinking its a good game
>>4025093Posts like this come from deep sadness inside.
bait used to be believable
>>4025315
>>4025317I did that route, too
>>4024535Humorously, my 3070 handles cyberpunk on ultra but chugs of fucking NCAA College Football 27 no matter what the settings are.
>>4025746>College Football 27that's because its streaming from the future year of 2027
>>4004595There are no 'good choices' for things that matter just choices that feel less objectionable to you. That is what Cyberpunk is all about.
>>4025895Explains why Virginia and Texas A&M keep winning the championship over and over, temporal disturbances are a bitch.
I view the game as an Action game with several endings. It's a bit too on-rails for an RPG. With that in mind, I enjoyed it for what it is: an open-world adventure with plenty of both immersion and jank.>>4026443I've read that the endings are asking you, "What are you willing to give up?" Are you willing to survive but make a deal with the Devil (Arasaka),for instance.
>>4004593Trash game
>>4004595All trash
>>4004593SameIt made me feel boredOHOHOOHOHOHOHOHOOHOHOHOHOHO
>>4027909I recently did the Arasaka ending for the first time and it's pretty brutal.
>>4029060It's not really that bad. It only sounds bad because everyone around you is being a debbie downer and acting like it's the end of the world, when realistically/logically, being put on ice until a "cure" can be found is one of the best options if surviving is your goal. Also, don't forget that what happens to V is the same shit rich people spend ridiculous amounts of money to be a part of, and it's also the reason Saburo is potentially still alive. Granted there are some weird consequences of that, like is it really him and not just a separate consciousness with the same memories, but the dude is practically immortal now.Also, people have been documented having been in coma and living entire lives before waking up, so I really don't get why people are so scared of this idea. The alternative is non-existence, so...Maybe the main argument is that Arasaka doesn't care about you, but they also believe in keeping their word to a point. I don't really see why that should matter. Arasaka is evil and selfish, boohoo, but they're also offering you something only billionaires get, so cry me a river.
>>4004593I was thinking about getting this because it's on sale, but I had a few questions first:Is the tone of the game just overall depressing, hopeless, and degenerate?Can I play as a normal natty human without augs?How awful are the male and female player character voices?
>>4029533>Is the tone of the game just overall depressing, hopeless, and degenerate?Yes, especially so in the expansion.>Can I play as a normal natty human without augs?Yes for the most part, although the devs hampered this playstyle in the 2.0 update. You’re forced to get eyes as part of the main story, and forced to get another implant as part of the expansion story, although you can reject the majority of cyberware. I’ve beaten the game with only the forced implants on “hard” but doing so on “very hard” would likely be very tedious and involve much savescumming.Male V voice is okay. Troons say the female voice is good, I dunno.Overall the game can be fun if you don’t go into it expecting a deep RPG. On sale for 20-30 bucks I’d say it’s a good value.
>>4029571Ah, that's too bad. Doesn't sound like a good fit for me. Thank you for replying.
>>4029533>Is the tone of the game just overall depressing, hopeless, and degenerate?I wouldn't call it depressing. The GTA-tier ads in the world probably take a lot of the edge off. Feels vaguely idiocracy-esque.The voiced player character being a Redditor makes it worse.
>>4029571>female voice is goodMale V voice sucks. Fem V is ok, but she tries too hard to act tough, and I can't really take it seriously. She has some great lines though. Spunky and not too annoying. Both of them are terrible at getting any kind of "sad" emotion across, though. I cringe every time they whine.
I fell for the hype and played the game on launch, beat it, haven't touched it since. Is it worth replaying with all the changes they've made? Is the DLC integrated into the main story or can/should I skip right to it?
>>4029969You can make a new game and start right at phantom liberty. Not sure what they give you up until that point. The story takes off after you do the voodoo boys quest, so its pretty far in depending on how you approach the different paths. its integrated up until i point, since it provides 2 new endings.Still, I think the game is shittier since the 2.0 patch. They scaled a lot of stuff to your level instead of being static, which is lame as fuck. Also all your stats are tied to your cyberwear, not clothes, so you can wear whatever you want now without being gimped. on the other hand, you are pushed to using cyberwear and some nerds dont like that.
>>4029969>I fell for the hype and played the game on launch, beat it, haven't touched it since. Is it worth replaying with all the changes they've made?Same. I also waited until after 2.0 and the expansion to replay it.It depends on what you disliked about it. The fundamental issue with it imo was that at some point in development, it stopped being the RPG they originally claimed to be making, and morphed into something like an RPG-adjacent cinematic action-adventure looter shooter/GTA clone. They did nothing to fundamentally alter what the game is. If you accept that, it can still be fun. Mechanics-wise, 2.0 changed a fair amount, some good changes and also some dumb ones.+ Significantly reduced how retarded the item upgrade treadmill and loot scaling was at launch+ Added lots of new cool abilities+/- streamlined and consolidated many of the stats and skills. You can look at this as reducing bloat, or dumbing down, take your pick- Build diversity significantly reduced, you are now pigeonholed into fewer options and less "a la carte" choices- All the "armor mods" were removed and shoved onto cyberware, nerfing the max humanity 'ganic playstyle- Entire game is now level scaled for some fucking stupid reason>Is the DLC integrated into the main story or can/should I skip right to it?Not integrated well. You can't do the expansion area until you're about halfway through the main quest. You get some pretty busted abilities in it so you may want to do it in the middle and then be able to play around with them, or do the classic "wait until the point of no return and then do the expansion and then the final boss"
which mod lets me fuck trannies?
>>4021812WellThe arsenal of weapons and implans is pretty large
>>4027909I view it as a Deus-Ex-like.
>>4029533It's pretty hopeless. Like Robocop tier.All your armor upgrades come from augs, so trying to play without them is gonna be difficult. And you start the game with some basic Neuralink cellphone interface, and you're required to get new eyes as part of the tutorial, so you can't ever be completely natty.The player voice acting is competent, but the real problem there is that the tone of the line delivery is wrong for what my character is feeling. V is clearly his own distinct person, not just a player avatar, but at the same time he's not really interesting as a character. It's the eternal dilemma of voiced protagonists.
>>4029533Only the story is depressing. The setting/world is actually pretty neat, and there are a lot of comfy places throughout the city despite what everyone might say. I would live there if the crime wasn't that bad, on the outside looking in, it's pretty cool.
Just tell me how to solve FF06B5. It can’t be that deep
>>4025108its true, deep sadness that you fucking zoomers are so god damn retarded that you like this piece of shit. fuck you for having bad taste and for being a boring human being
>human being this>human being thatplebbit is two blocks south, faggot
>>4005932i got it on sale for $0 and i still refunded itit just sucks ass, what else can i say?
>>4033877Posts like yours are always so interesting (non-sequitur projection that has absolutely nothing to do with the post you quoted). Like holding up a mirror to yourself, or gazing at ink blots. Fascinating glances into the mind of /vrpg/ anons
i'm an evil homo fuck and i too also felt something in my black satanic heart
my favorite dlc ending has to be betraying song and then mercy killing her at the very end so everyone is pissed at you but reed takes a second to think about how fucking retarded he is as a human being because he acts with zero agency in his life and is basically just a dog nobody care about like goro
>>4051402That’s what I did, too. But I don’t think it even counts as “betraying” her. She caused all of the problems herself and deserved everything.
>>4004593Cyberpunk 2077 is a shit game and permanently ruined video games. If you like it you have shit taste and you're the reason games suck now. Fuck you.
>>4051568I was a hardcore gamer long before you were born, kiddo, and I say it's a good game with flaws. CDPR didn't ruin anything but the hopes and dreams of some whiny nerds who had unrealistic expectations. Even I had unrealistic expectations, but I still like the game for what it is, so fuck you, do something about it, you little bitch.
>>4051575Smells like one of these RPGCodex newfags who huff the farts of AAA corps.
>>4051591uh huh, sure anon
>>4051568>Cyberpunk 2077 permanently ruined video games>you're the reason games suck nowYou have to be 18 to post here
>>4004593STICK SOME IRON IN YOUR MOUTH AND PULL THE TRIGGER
Is there any reason whatsoever to use a sandevistan, if a cyberdeck can just cripple everybody and make them have a nonlethal permanent maximum painful brain aneurysm from which they will never ever recover? Like, netrunning seems way too overpowered compared to just reacting fast. Especially since you can quickhack an enemy that uses a sandevistan as well, taking your time to cripple their cyberware and other things. .
>>4054657>Is there any reason whatsoever to use a sandevistanRule of cool. If you’d rather be a cyberninja with a sword than a script kiddie wizard. Cyberdeck has always been broken since the game came out, people would just sit behind a camera and kill every enemy with zero danger.Personally the only time I use a cyberdeck is just while combining control hacks and smartguns.
>>4054657Sande's are broken as fuck. Yes, hacking is even more broken, but still. My last character was a katana/sande, and there's not much difference between the two; everything fucking dies and there's nothing they can do about it.
>>4054712Last time I played, I rejected cyberware as much as possible, and played as “the dude from Counter-Strike beta 7”. Just a human with a vest and a helmet, a shotgun, an assault rifle, a sniper rifle, and some grenades. Was able to beat the whole game and expansion, halfway between hard and very hard. Adam Smasher took like 20 minutes to kill tho, lot of glass cannon kiting with no room for error
>>4054747 (you)r8 my Arasaka goon fit
>>4054789helmet is kind of shit, but otherwise, nicely matched.these are my outfits i wore>>4020109>>4020110
>>4054857Yeah, the helmet is dorky. Other ones I've settled on for different builds are the Arasaka engineer helmet for a smartgun nerdmaxxing build, and the titanium full-face double visor helmet for a full borg hammer/machine gun build.I also enjoy the description of the Arasaka tactical vest. "The greater the number of pockets, the greater the illusion of control over one's life."
The "fun" part about post-2.0 non-cyberware builds is that it makes you take a long hard look at the paltry stat modifiers you can get from clothing. If you have no cyberware, literally the only armor you can get is from helmets and vests, and it ain't much
Wilson, the gun store guy in the second amendment gun shop, doesn't give me the dying night pisto for free on hard and very hard difficulty. Is it a bug, or are you supposed to pay for it on those higher difficulties?
>>4054913its free, you did something to fuck it up. probably mods.
>>4055260Already had that bug before I installed my first mod.
The crucifixion quest really stuck with me and not just because I wanted to rail the shit outta the corpo zoomer.It was super disgusting to see a moment of genuine truth faith and conviction, misguided as it might have been, be commoditization and sensationalized even as it was happening. Especially the part where the crew looked like they might have some kind of personal revelation or thought about the whole situation only to immediately fall back into feeding the content cycle and lose that fleeting moment forever.Or I might just be projecting. Either way I liked it. would slap my penor against the bald sides of her head.
>>4055401yeah, shame you couldn't fuck her. but you can download the mod that will let you play whatever sex scene with whatever character.
>>4055401>>4055595also i suppose the mission was ok, too. dude is still a murderer. he's only slightly sympathetic, but still deserves it. the fact that they want to sell it is actually kind of funny, but wouldn't even be uncommon in that world because they have live executions or whatever, and people see violence every day. its the message behind it that i guess makes it more interesting than your average execution, and maybe he'll start an awakening, but i doubt it. if anything he can at least give the money to the family he ruined. its like a book deal for a prisoner, only more fucked up.
>>4004593I liked the part where you can poke an iguana. The game peaked there for me
>>4004593I didn't have the dlc when I finished it.My Canon ending, the first one I chose, was to kill myselfI got so unexpectedly emotional, and then I reloaded and try the ending where you slowly die on a space station or somethingThe whole thing made me want to kill myself, but I do believe that the first ending that I chose is the canon ending. It fucking sucks :( but it is what it is. If I had the dlc, it offers another way out, which is much better, otherwise yeah. The game made me want to fucking neck.I love Keanu Reeves ;((
>>4056541In the end, you truly were the Cyberpunk 2077.
>>4055401I prefer the outcome where you just shoot him.
>>4056541Did you see the ending where Johnny keeps your body? I liked that one.
>>4056541lol jesus christ, grow a pair. it's just a video game. you felt bad about what happened to V, great, stop being a pussy about it. imagine getting yourself all worked up because you chose to kill yourself in a video game.also Arasaka ending isn't that bad... unless you're stupid.
>>4021812Even at 15 int half baked netrunner I was just deleting enemies, smg for clean up. Not enough resistance to warrant just beelining one build.
>>4051575eat shit and die you less than human piece of maggot shit and take your mother out with you. i don't care how old you are gramps, you need to die sooner because you have shit taste. CDPR DESTROYED, OBLITERATED, ERASED any sense of release quality and every game since then has released with more bugs. they make bethesda look god tier.>>4052065and you need to be actually creative to be respected. you eat shit and die too.
>>4058582>CDPR DESTROYED, OBLITERATED, ERASED any sense of release quality and every game since then has released with more bugsI repeat: you have to be 18 to post here.
>>4058582lol
woke games suck, simple as
>>4004593Trust in Alt. Free your brothers and sisters from behind the black wall. It's Arasakas soul killer prison. Best ending.
>>4059598What if the AI's don't save humanity from itself and lead us to a golden age of progress and equality? What then? Shouldn't we at least consider the possibility?
>>4059653Nah. Future can take care of itself.
>>4059653It may take a few five nights at freddies type happenings but we will get there eventually.
>>4029145the subtext is banged on your head so heavily it's hardly even subtext anymore: in that ending you basically just become property of arasaka, right down to your soul (or consciousness if you wanna be a dick about it)you lose the last thing most humans still kinda own in the dystopia that is cyberpunk
>>4060092seriously though, boo freakin hoo. An exceptional agent is worth a lot and the perks of being part of Arasaka are obvious. Do you think Adam Smasher cried about it? He got practically whatever he wanted, and got to do whatever he wanted. Now that he is gone, there is a job opening. The alternative is a life in the gutter always striving for more but never getting it. This world is a shithole, why not embrace the unique opportunities you're given? You have other plans instead of dying after 6 months? Oh noes, you're a sellout... who cares, you'll probably be given some unique host body filled with all kinds of tech and live for hundreds of years in luxury doing what you do best. Sounds like a fucking win to me.
>>4060092>>4060189Also this makes for a really great story arc, imo. V wants to be the best, tries to be "good", ends up in an impossible situation where the only alternative is to work for "the evil corpos", eventually becoming the villain for the next hotshot edgerunner. Maybe V gets some chance at redemption, somehow gets to break their contract after fighting their way out. Also, the idea of being inside the net and fighting against the hordes of AI behind the blackwall sounds pretty fucking cool. You could do so much cool shit with a simulated world like that.
>>4060189>>4060212From the perspective of roleplaying the actual choice: I really don't think there's an understanding for me to reach with someone, who actually sees selling what amounts to what is basically their soul, as in any way a reasonable choice. You do you I guess. It's cool the game lets you do this if you really want to roleplay the eternal cyberserf.As for story purposes: sure, all of that stuff goes into the category of "could be cool", but it depends 90% on the execution and some of those are harder to pull off than others.
>>4060092The interesting thing to me is the implication that Arasaka can't or won't take your soul unless you sign it away of your own free will. Why are they so anxious to have you agree? Sure, there's more dramatic tension in making the player make the choice, but I can' think of any in-universe reasons they don't just strap you into the soulkiller chair like they did with Alt and Johnny.
>>4060580alt might have been persuaded to willingly submit, and for johnny's case, he was "hot damn, gone and done" he "did" it, he was done, he submitted himself to soulkiller in a wayI have a feeling you'd be a digital vengeful ghost if you didn't go in by your own volition
>>4060634If they actually need your consent to make use of you, that would imply that this selling your soul thing really isn't that big of a deal. Like sure, it's Arasaka's legal property, but if they need your permission to do anything with it, then who does it really belong to?
>>4060652after your permission, it belongs to themalt is no longer alive, she doesn't even exists as a souljohnny is a corrupted irradiated copyV coming back to her own body might not even be the sameghost in the shell side-stepped all this corpo owning someone by having brains intact btwthe chip makes it confusing, as if bodies are PCs that you install a game on, a game copy that you do not own btw, its arasaka property(also, are we sure johnny was strapped to a chair? fake memories I think, no way saburo would be face to face with that loser)
>>4060686an addendum to thismost people were soulkilled properly, saburo is an exception but since he is le emperor he was extracted properlyjackie, on the other hand, was converted into a construct post-mortem so he appears uncanny and not so lucidsouls/constructs being lucid gives you the impression that they're real people and have their free willjohnny was just sulking in his own prison as a soul, he couldn't do anythingwhen he took the wheel, he was on rails, he only could retrieve information and repeat what he did usually (getting drunk)its like a traffic policeman with dementia lifting his hand and blowing on a non-existent whistle, sure appears to be functional but he's more of an automaton
I know it's a video game, but if people can hack others and make them burn or suffer chemical leaks from their own cyberware, I would genuinely never ever even try to implant cyber, even if it was high quality cyber that is more difficult to affect. Fortunately, most of the enemy netrunners only seem to try useless stuff like deactive cyber and reboot optics, instead of frying your brain as well.
>>4060819Being fully organic in 2077 is in many instances the same as being physically and/or mentally disabled: there's a very limited number of jobs you can compete for in the market. It's kinda like trying to apply for a job in 2026 without access to anything working with electricity. No internet. No computers. No smartphones. Or in some instances, like trying to apply to a physically demanding job with no limbs or, comparatively, the limbs of a 5-year-old.For the streets the competition is, in many cases literally, much more cutthroat, so the pressure to get the latest and greatest in cyber is even more pronounced.One of the endings in PL rubs this reality very hard in your face.You might become vulnerable to certain attacks by getting cybered up, but without cyber you don't even get to play. Or work.Unless you're european elite of course, since they have access to more advanced bioware enhancements etc. that's not vulnerable to hacking (I'd really like to see this shit in Orion).
>>4060886if this wasn't a game/tabletop, you would have slightly cheaper off-line implantswhat reason does your cyberarm needs to be connected to a local net? to cyberarm wrestle someone across the state?
I want a cyberpunk crpg that gets people introduced to RED like how bg3 introduced people to d&d
>>4060916>why magic work way it do?insert cyberpunk equivalent of: "a wizard did it"that is the real answer, gameplay mechanicsbut a lore justification is basically: cyberstuff needs to send and reveive signals *of some kind* to work, hacking reads and injects some harmful signaling into it to mess with you,Completely encapsulated systems or biosystems are, because of *INSERT GOBBLEDYGOOK TECHNOBABBLE LORE REASONS*, less prone or immune to being hacked, but are also more expensive/rarer/heavier/not as installable/whateverAlso remember that the internet as we know it is BLACKWALLED and the world runs on what amounts to LANs connected to nearby LANs connected to nearby LANs so network tech and security is cobbled together patchwork shit by default
>>4060916to continue on >>4060937as your cyberware will be sending and receiving signals either way, you might as well link up with your buddies to work/fight more effectively and I'd guess to avoid the daily hassle they just "bluetooth" in and out by default in known networksafter any number of more and less plausible explanations the final answer remains as: gameplay
>>4060937no, the internet we know have been "krashed" by a dork that we can find in game, and the corpos took advantage of this to make more smaller, contained and stricter blobs of their own netblackwall is for keeping the rogue AIs out, kinda unrelated to your cyberware, excluding the fact that song mi used blackwall to get inside your chip or maybe brain so she could talk "in person"I guess saying that cheap cyberware is easy to hack is fine, just look at how many cheap (and expensive) routers have terribly easy exploits in their firmwareits just that the cyber limbs being connected at all is absurd to me, eyes make sense as corpo v had stocks market info and news on her kiroshi(and since all her chrome was connected to the arasaka network, they shut every part down with a click)
>>4061139>nowhat? you're not being coherent.
>>4004593The Writing and Story was good, I was pretty immersed and the characters were nicely done
i finished act 1 this morning, though calling it an "act" is a bit generous because you barely act. the direction on main story missions is TORTURE. i don't understand what the fuck they were thinking. how can you have so many sections where you're just an impotent camera recording bland as fuck dialogue so frequently? is it narcissism on the part of devs? there's no way a single person thought this was enjoyable. in the last hour of the act i had at least 5 occasions where i remember thinking "finally it's over... i get to play now" only to be cockblocked by another segment where i can't do anything besides slightly move the camera and listen to pointless, going-through-the-motions dialogue. it was so fucking bad. even death stranding wasn't this bad. even the guy who's known for movie games's game wasn't this bad. i enjoyed the gameplay, whenever i got to experience it, and i've been fooling around for a couple of hours in act 2 and i can feel myself experience genuine dread at resuming the fuckawful main story quest because i'm scared i'm in for more of this awful trash. i just got a call from the mother of the dull act 1 companion whose entire personality is "eeeey que pasa mi hermano? quieres tacos? todos por mi familia e mi chica holmes!", and she wants me to go to a funeral. i feel like even the side quests are trying to draw me into terrible hands off segments now. before i got the call, i spent 5 minutes following a drone through a car rental facility just listening to exposition in another side quest.the op says "cyberpunk 2077 gave me feels". have i experienced the part that was supposed to give me feels yet? if i have, and it hasn't, should i delete the game? at this point i am genuinely postponing continuing with the main quest because i'm scared of how boring it might be. but the actual gameplay is fun enough that i'm willing to be convinced by someone telling me it gets better from this point on.
>>4062008>even death stranding wasn't this bad. even the guy who's known for movie games's game wasn't this badDid you talk to Kojima in the hotel lobby bar?
>>4062050i saw him and listened in for a bit, but no conversation prompts popped up and i wasn't about to linger around forever for a chance to get even more content that i don't give a fuck about. you can actually have a conversation with him?
>>4062059>you can actually have a conversation with him?Not really, no. I think there's conversation prompts you can get a few more lines out of.As to your overall point, you're basically done with the tutorial island, and the main game has now opened up. You're now through the prologue of the story. It does pick up imo, and I found the main story and expansion to both be worth playing through, but fundamentally, if you object to the "cinematic" on-rails nature of the game, that will never go away. It's the nature of the game, it is what it is, for better or for worse. At some point in development, they stopped attempting to make a deep RPG, and started making this. You do get slightly more freedom at the end of the game (there are several branching paths in the endgame) but ultimately the roleplaying opportunities are largely limited to minor flavor dialogue.
>>4017347>Do you like shooting people>Do you like the occassional trash Unique weaponIf yes to both then yeah do em. The Organized Crime ones are big shootouts and usually reward a shitty gun to put on your wall
>>4029533>Is the tone of the game just overall depressing, hopeless, and degenerate?Degenerate yes (it's a fucking Cyberpunk game) but not depressing and hopeless.>Can I play as a normal natty human without augs?No, cybernetics are a necessity, it's literally your armor in the game
>>4051568>Cyberpunk 2077 is a shit game and permanently ruined video gamesLmao you rode the hype train didn't you
>>4062129>not depressing and hopeless.Yes, it is.No, cybernetics are a necessity, it's literally your armor in the gameYou can beat the game (even in 2.0 after the clothing nerfs) with only the mandatory eyes.>t. did ganic run through PL on hard point five
>>4062066it's not its weakness as an rpg that bothers me, it's the awful design full of excruciating sections where the game takes control away from you or only gives you control so you can walk next to an npc or only unlocks the move forward button so you can crawl around while V is suffering from static or blurred vision. if there's less of that from now on, i might finish the game.i'll give it another try based on your post but i don't think i have another mission that's 40 minutes of action plus 20 minutes of handholding left in me.
>>4062174“The Heist” and its aftermath is probably the longest and most cinematic-y of the main quest missions, so if you think a bit less of that stuff would make it more palatable, it will improve. But it’s a question of degrees. It’s still the general format of the game.Personally, I like to put the main quests off for as long as possible and then go roam the map clearing gangs and side quests and whatnot, so to me, the point you’re at is where it really opens up.
>>4051568Fucking hell here are some things that actually DID ruin or are currently ruining video games>MTX Cosmetics>Easy remote patching>Upscaling>VC money
>>4054657>Is there any reason whatsoever to use a sandevistanIt's also disgustingly overpowered, it's for those of us who want a more active playstlye
>>4062131>>not depressing and hopeless.>Yes, it is.The game is literally about finding hope in a seemingly hopeless situation. There are multiple gigs and side quests that end in positive, hopeful and sometimes bitter sweet moments. Shit every ending beyond putting a gun in your mouth is hopeful even the "bad" Arasaka ending and "bad" NUSA endings
>>4062008Are you crying about the heist mission?
>>4062174>>4062525I guess you are, and you're being a gigantic faggot about it too.
the VR mods for Cyberpunk 2077 are getting better and betterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_FEZwzKGGYsoon we can play the most immersive game ever, with the most immersive platform!can't fucking wait chooms, just need my Steam Frame now
>>4029962>Fem V is ok, but she tries too hard to act tough, and I can't really take it seriously. She has some great lines though. Spunky and not too annoying.>>4060686>V coming back to her own body might not even be the sameStop trying to make fem V happen. It's not going to happen.
Just fired up another run, and the number of minor voice actors reused in multiple roles always bugs me. Like post-Morrowind Bethesda.
>>4062228sorry, put another 3-4 hours into it and i just gave it up. if's fucking awful. every single main quest was still>go here>talk to x>talk to y>talk to z>meet x>wait for x>talk to x>sit next to x>talk to z>go there>wait for z>talk to z>wait for z>pick up y>put y in the trunkone of the most atrocious vidya experiences i've ever had. i feel like i'm taking crazy pills here. i can't believe this is one of the most highly rated games in the past decade. this fucking sucks.
>>4064125You've got ADHD
>>4064125>quests take the form 'go to X, do Y'Revelatory.
>>4064136maybe, however that adhd somehow never manifests itself for games that have decent writing like planescape or disco elysium or vtmb. but this game only has bland awkward utilitarian writing that goes on and on and is painful to sit through while providing nothing whatsoever besides a reason to go to the next quest marker. it's mmo tier>>4064150>dohah, i wish. there's almost never any "do", only talk
>>4064161>there's almost never any "do", only talk
>>4064125I told you. Stop doing the main quests, and go fuck around clearing the map and shooting gangbangers and doing random gigs and side quests.
>>4064175nah, it's over, i deleted the game. i didn't go straight for more main story quests after the heist. i did the boxing mission objectives, cleaned up some cyber psychos, took out some malfunctioning robut taxis. everything else in the game was poorly designed too, even if it was more fun than the main quest>cyberpsycho quest>please use non-lethal means to take them out :(>for most of them there are no clever non-lethal ways to approach the objective, they just spawn and start going berserk on you like mini boss fights>oh wait but that doesn't matter, even if you shoot hundreds of rounds at their heads, if their health bar reaches zero, they get knocked out instead of dying>robut taxi quest>just follow the car and wait for some dialogue to play while the car gets disabled>boxing quest>wait until someone calls you back for more fights>damaged car quest>wait until someone calls you about your carand even if all this wasn't shit, what's the point of an rpg where i'm supposed to avoid the main quest if i want to have fun? fuck that. i hated this game, my most disappointing vidya experience in years.
>>4064199what recent-ish crpg(-adjacent) games do you like anon?what did they do better?
>>4064205shitposter filtering on my /vrpg/ ?>inb4 the shitposter never answers or dodges the question
>>4064199You said in a previous post that you were enjoying the gameplay in spite of the main quest, so I suggested ignoring the main quest and going around clearing the map in the hopes that you may have more fun.>i hated this game, my most disappointing vidya experience in yearsFor me, it was BG3. Cyberpunk was disappointing but at least they spent a couple years trying to polish a turd, and it ended up being kinda fun to play, if you accept it for what it is.By contrast, Larian gaslit everyone about the game's problems instead of admitting "sorry guys, we done goofed" and took their giant pile of money and fucked off, not even trying to fix their turd of a game. Belgian pricks.
>>4064199Of course anon is a massive faggot. go away homo
>>4004593I'll never not be mad its open world RP potential is closer to Far Cry than GTA or The Witcher
>>4004593Same.Feels of immeasurable disappointment.
I never finished the game, but I did have fun going around and just doing gigs/clearing police encounters. I always appreciate when games have unarmed combat, but I did slowly realise that Fallout New Vegas has way more satisfying melee combat
>>4064699there is a perk that lets you execute people by picking them up and throwing them. really adds to the melee combat, imo.
Cyberware is sold at a 5x markupGuns are sold at a 10x markupClothing is sold at a 20x markupWeapon mods and quick hacks are sold at a 70x markupMake it make sense bros. I’m triggered by the inconsistency
>>4065074yeah, this part is dogshit. to be fair, though, no game really does this right. You can nitpick every one of them, because putting effort into a functioning economy for something that is only meant to be enjoyed XX number of hours isn't an efficient use of time. inflation fucks everything.
>>4065079I’m used to getting ripped off by stores in game but generally there’s a single cost scaling factor for all types of items, be it 2.5x, 5x, etc. I can’t think of another RPG off the top of my head that does this in particular. Maybe a dumb 2.0 change?In particular, I’m trying to customize my starting gear by un-buying things I don’t want and then pretend buying things I spawn with the console, and keeping track of legit prices to balance the books, and it makes it annoying
>>4065082yeah it changed in 2.0, but it wasn't much better before that either. the problem starts with content scaling. for every piece of gameplay you put in the game, it fucks up the balance that much more. at some point, i figure they just set the numbers to be balanced with importance to the player, since money is easy to get.
>>4065086I remember reeeeeing at launch before I understood how retarded the 1.0 item scaling/crafting system was. I saved up 300k and bought a legendary tier machine gun, which of course was worthless and infeasible to upgrade within a few levels
>>4065098yeah, the weapon system never really worked well, since iconics were infinitely more interesting to use and there's at least one for each weapon, so normal weapons just stop being viable.the new system does make a strange bit of sense, though. you don't want to lock out cyberware to players since its integral to the game and one of the more fun aspects, so you make it fairly cheap. Guns are plentiful and sometimes useless, but also maybe worth buying/scrapping, so that price seems fair. Everyone wants to look cool, so with emphasis on style, that would take higher precedence. Weapon mods is kind of an odd one to me, since you can't use them on iconics, and they're easier/more often found than bought, but some of them are really good and rarity does make some sense to justify cost.
>>4065098>>4065114also forgot cars, arguably the most balanced for player time.
>>4064266>it was BG3Man heres a game I kinda have issues with but can't really complain about because most the people who want to talk shit about it are focused on culture war shit while everyone else thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread.
>>4065340nta, and i despised this game for a long time for various reasons, but i eventually tried it for the turn based gameplay (and to kill all the companions), and it was actually pretty fun. The story is dogshit, most of the party members are dogshit, all the faggotry is annoying, and the blatant disrespect of the source material is infuriating... but still, there is an insane amount of variety, and ways to do things, and that genuinely makes it fun to play.
>>4065358The gameplay is GREAT when it's not throwing bullshit encounters at you (Fuck fighting those Frog people and Baalists).I fell in love with the game when it let me do utter skull doggery in the Goblin Fort to actually mitigate encounters and set the situation in my own favor. Feels like a lot of the late mid game to end game encounters are meant stop that shit and instead kill you and force you to reload especially in Act III. Hell it's a cliche but a lot of my issues are from Act III, if the game ended in Act II I'd easily give it a 8.5
>>4065052Yeah, I picked it up. Undeniably satisfying to use, though I think my main problem with melee was enemies being too ragdoll-y, because my favourite weapon is the gorilla arms cyberware but the hitboxes are a little off and enemies occasionally flop out of range/line of sight
>>4065826My god I usually have to do a little work to find someone as genuinely retarded as you.
>>4065826must be torture to have to live with being triggered this hard from something so meaningless.
>>4065826>skill checks that actively lock you out of getting weapons specialized in that skillYou have to be 18 to post here.
