>>4005225
>What the fuck is this commie bullshit?
WELCOME TO REVACHOL!

>>4005225
Skill issue

>>4005225
should have saved. skill issue

>>4005225
Welcome to Revachol.

>>4005225
It's your fault for playing a game that it's famous because of reddit

>>4005252
>reddit
*twitter

>be me
>browsing /vrpg/
>what's this? A disco Elysium thread?
>aww yis.
>enter thread.
I literally can't talk enough about Disco Elysium but to get to you question OP, I don't think whatever game this is can in anyway compare to the sheer brilliance that is Disco Elysium. The game is so packed full of deep intellectual concepts that I'm surprised there's even a large enough following for DE (Disco Elysium) that threads about it to appear. Not that I'm complaining :).
DE (Disco Elysium) has one of the deepest and well thought out gameplay in any game I've ever played. It's cut through all the rooty tooty point and shooty "gameplay" (that other games waste their time on) and gets to the real meat of any game.... the story. I truly can't express how how shocked I was (well I can, I lived through the "trump years") that there are people who don't like DE (Disco Elysium). It's probably just their preconceived notions on what a "game" has to be. These same people probably also have antiquated ideas about women, race, and religion as well. So in short most detractors of this game are incels.
>end rant.
Thanks for reading guys.

>>4005310
>I literally can't talk enough about-
tldr anon is a self-fellating commie.

the one mortal fault of DE is that it tries too hard to get into your head to checkmate you, including by half-accusing you of doing so, just like your average psychomasturbating "marxist", though more à la Nietzsche (a faggot as well but a more appreciable one). even in the rare occasions where it tries to sound like it isn't taking itself too seriously it fails at it, because the sin was already committed and there is no taking it back.

>devs release a better game
>due to some past drama nobody plays it

>>4005310
Pasta and guests are both stale after three days

>>4005319
“The game isn’t biased pokes fun at all ideologies equally!”
Haha yea guess you can’t make an omelette without breaking a few eggs am I rite *picking commie options gives you XP*
lol you’re only a fascist because you hate women *picking fascist options makes you lose morale and get a game over*
I tried to do a second playthrough after finishing it and realized it had zero replayability

>>4005310
>>4005362
>this level of irony
that you Kurvitz?

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>>4005225
>mogs the Deserter in every conceivable way

>>4005446
>mom, can we have Nightmare?
>no, we have Nightmare at home

>>4005225
I think when all is said and done, people will unironically have nostalgia for boomers by comparison. That is how repulsive millennials are.

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It was a commie game that didn’t flop. Had an interesting art direction, some nice (but repetitive) songs, and a few well done scenes (the meeting of the cryptid). One some level commies are terrified that the chuds are right, that they drive every studio they infest to produce ideologically cringe garbage, and eventually ruin companies. So they get very excited when a game of theirs doesn’t flop - even if it still somehow manages to ruin the studio.

>>4005674
>One some level commies are terrified that the chuds are right
Can confirm that the chuds are right.
>t. former tankie

I don't get the "commie game" bit
every ideology you can choose is just some shallow front for the underlying grief
Communists
Fascists
Moralists
Ultraliberals

All put in the same bucket

>>4005677
It's because it's a game made by Marxists, voice acted by Marxists and philosophically informed by Marxists. Commie is just shorthand for that, it's not like they support Soviet communism.
See, some Marxists believe that their theory failed and capitalism reigns because of the weight of cultural delusions that are extensions of personal failings under the weight of historical awareness and people regress into harmful behaviour to circumvent the chaos of the world. It's actually hard to explain in a short way because their thought process is so convoluted and built upon a lot of other ideas. Ironically, Orthodox Marxists would say that many of these guys aren't Marxists, because it's kind of a ship of Theseus situation. Branding sells though.

>>4005736
This is broadly correct, generally speaking.
>>4005677
>every ideology you can choose is just some shallow front for the underlying grief
Specific to Harry in the context of the game, this is also correct.

I think the fundamental delusion at the heart of this kind of "Marxism" is the love of humanity and the hatred of people, which is another way of saying "I love the model, but hate the reality". This leads them to create other models that explain the sorcery behind this reality and try to make it false. The real truest fact that they cannot stand is that Humans are Animals.

>>4005742
>I think the fundamental delusion at the heart of this kind of "Marxism" is the love of humanity and the hatred of people
The esoteric purpose of Marxism was actually just about Jews establishing a Jewish dictatorship over the goyim, and a certain subset of dumb goys got tricked by the exoteric messaging. Useful idiots.

>>4005736
>some Marxists believe that their theory failed and capitalism reigns because of the weight of cultural delusions that are extensions of personal failings under the weight of historical awareness and people regress into harmful behaviour to circumvent the chaos of the world.
>It's actually hard to explain in a short way because their thought process is so convoluted and built upon a lot of other ideas
It's actually not that difficult.
It's as if Jesus of the one true church came down, walked the earth and started performing miracles. Many would claim him to be a false god by virtue of clinging to their own religious delusions and an equally many would doubt due to their obsession of watching AI generated content on TikTok. The end result is humanity turning its collective back on our one true lord and further casting us down the path of sin. We'll continue to revel and thrive in sin until our eventual demise oblivious to the greater path.

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>>4005753
>if Jesus of the one true church came down, walked the earth and started performing miracles
>many would doubt due to their obsession of watching AI generated content on TikTok
what????

>>4005772
His point should be pretty obvious.
Stupid people who watch AIslop not knowing is fake will become desensitized to so called 'miracles'.
People who know they're watching AI slop will think it's a stunt and theres someone hiding in the bushes filming it for youtube.

>>4005744
This is a model you use to simplify history.
>>4005753
This is the error of mistaking cause and effect.

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How does it compare so far?

>>4005677
You're not an ultraliberal anon
Get the fuck out
Don't be a retard

>>4005446
I didn't expect this dumb reddit game to have such a kino ending.
>"You're still a good man. Despite it all."
>"Despite it all."

>>4005225
The major problem with this game is that no matter what you do, nothing really matters at the end, which I guess fits the depressing theme of nihilism the writers intended but it doesn't change the fact this is a shitty counter-intuitive way to design a game. You can go through hoops to do all of these side quests to find unique equipment, try to talk to everyone & garner as much xp as you can, and ultimately this is meaningless because the only factors that determine whether you can solve the case is how you choose to deal with the blonde druggie whore. There aren't multiple endings, none of the side quests you solve have any bearing on anything outside of their immediate resolution, and you really just need to invest in a handful of skills at most to pass the mandatory checks for progressing the game forward & outside of these there's no penalty for failing & it's just down to preference as to whether you like the outcome or not. You can find various books to pass the time, and again this is another meaningless mechanic because you don't unlock a secret that would give you an alternate path to affect anything by doing this; your time is just wasted. You have four different political ideologies you can have Harry adopt & blend them together as well as different personality options, and again this is rendered completely meaningless because the whole game is set up to have nothing matter in the long run.

>>4007392
But did you have fun?

>>4007410
NTA, I had fun the first playthrough but then attempting a second really hurt my overall opinion of the game. I agree with him.

>>4007415
It's all about different letsplayer reactions for me

>>4007392
the people that wrote this are consumed by political angst, so the ending has to be about the meaninglessness of human action while being vaguely hopeful. the whole thing is a big cry about the world. that's why it's popular with kids.

>>4007554
I don’t get why everyone talks about the cryptid subplot
The secret conversation with the ex on the island was way more emotionally impactful I thought. Though maybe a lot of people didn’t see it

>>4007554
frankly that's been anything made by leftists since at least 1991

>>4007655
phasmid shit was so retarded, the trite "humanity is le cancer". that stick fuck can clone himself, we use words. it's like complaining about a bird chirping.
>>4007719
way before that even. hunter s. thompson's sperm is all in this bitch.

>>4005674
We live in a chud universe but it seems as if everything has if anything just became more trite and ugly in the mainstream media while the economy tanks. If anything this decade only really made me double down on the commie shit.

>>4008281
>it seems as if everything has if anything just became more trite and ugly in the mainstream media
>If anything this decade only really made me double down on the commie shit.
Who the fuck didn’t abandon the mainstream media a decade ago? Don’t tell me you’re still watching movies and shit. Why do you think it’s so spiritually ugly? Who do you think is making this garbage?
>t. commie to chud pipeline

>>4007145
It's good. Less witty dialogue, but more gameplay.

>>4005677
Why did they come up with a fake name for lolberts and neoliberals but not cpmmunists and fascists?

>>4008632
>Why did they come up with a fake name for lolberts and neoliberals but not cpmmunists
So that their fanbase would recognize that they were the right-thinking good guys they were conditioned to identify with
>and fascists?
So that their fanbase would recognize that they were the wrong-thinking bad guys they were conditioned to hate

>>4008293
I never really liked that much mainstream media but all the big video games look like shit even if there is more sex appeal in gaming. It just seems like a retread of the boring 2000's style of games which is mostly dreary and overly focused on being "realistic" see E33 and Tides of Annihilation let alone the dredge of gacha ga mes.

>>4005225
skill issue. you could've just stopped playing

>>4007392
>>4007392
The game is about Harry, and your actions determine his ending. It sounds to me like you were expecting a different kind of story from the game, which is fair, but you can't evaluate the ending based on what you thought the narrative was going to be rather than the actual narrative

>>4008902
There was a tower defense game called immortal defense that depicted the player character as slowly going insane, and an intended choice was for the player to intentionally drop the game at some point along the way. Always thought it was an interesting ide

>>4009483
>tower defense game
glad you found a genre that's more your speed

>>4005448
millennials are nothing more than boomers v2

>>4005677
Communist options and characters are written as interesting and often rewarding to the player.
Meanwhile the game has like two fascists, one is a spineless fat loser whose best interaction is telling him to fuck off and the other is a spineless skinny loser with a nasal voice.
I mean, come on.

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>>4011647
>Meanwhile the game has like two fascists, one is a spineless fat loser whose best interaction is telling him to fuck off and the other is a spineless skinny loser with a nasal voice.
huh?

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>>4011647
>>4011706
there's also the pathetic old man who's nostalgic about an idealized past

anyways I love disco elysium bros

>>4005225
>casual who failed to save his game gets btfod
>blames the game
damn

Just finished this and liked it, but it feels the final segment is a bit weak, also, where the hell are your partners during the tribunal? I thougnt they spend all day in Whirling since day 3.

>>4011706
Personally I don't even consider this one as fascist, he was more of a race realist

>>4012402
I liked it, the spaghetti western music as you get "judged" for your actions was a pretty cool sequence.

Not an rpg

>>4011706
Measurehead isn't a fascist.

>>4012766
>>4012463
He's the core of the Fascist vision quest and an obvious satire of fascism, this is like communists going "well actually I consider him more of a trotskyist"

>>4013190
>He's the core of the Fascist vision quest
>[A]n obvious satire of fascism
Again, he's not a fascist.

>>4013385
But anon, by my definition of fascism of “bad thing the communists told me to not like”, he is

people who are fascinated by the aesthetics of politics should get shot
also not a rpg

>>4013385
Why did you put square brackets in the quote?

>>4013498
He capitalized that letter and it was lower case in the original quote, so he was showing that he had modified it

>>4013503
autism speaks

>>4005225
i liked the scenery and atmosphere of the first day and expected some deep mystery behind layers of 'humor' but the 'game' dropped off quickly as soon as the other side of the river opened up. there was something truly magical and unique about the first hours of the game that got destroyed by the end of it. talking to the lady in the boat about the Pale was the highlight.

>>4013493
How do you define a rpg?

>>4013493
>people who are fascinated by the aesthetics of politics should get shot
t. totally-not-fantasizing-about-lining-up-his-enemies-in-front-of-a-firing-squad

>>4013493
most retarded take ive read in year, thnks for the lulz

Not an rpg.

>>4013498
If you have to ask, you don't need to know.

>>4013621
It *is* an RPG.

>>4013726
>It *is* an RPG, because you Play the Role of Harry, and it’s a game. :)

>>4005225
yea you should probably just play a better game tbph
probably an older one

>>4013730
Yes.

>There are people that dislike Joyce
What the fuck is wrong with these commies?

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>>4005225
I legitimately don't get the appeal of this Text-Adventure.

Is the secret of this game that it only appeals to midwits and redditors aka Rick & Morty Fans?

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>>4016623
More specifically, the game's target audience is depressed internet communists, but your vocabulary is deficient, so you just call everything you dislike "Reddit"

>>4005310
>and gets to the real meat of any game.... the story

Please fucking die already

>>4016623
>>4016656
The game is less for communist enjoyment and more about the dangers of coping with shallow politics and philosophy and that it's never too late to turn your life around (over shit like bad experience with women, alcohol, your deteriorating mental state and doomer mentality.)

>>4016656
Found the redditor

>>4007195
>reddit game
It's an RPGCodex game

>>4016623
>redditsuba fan

>>4013802
>probably an older one
let me guess: single speech skill, maybe two more for bluffing and intimidation if we're being generous, and uses a flat distributive d20 skill resolution mechanic?

>>4007392
You're talking about zero parades
Disco elysium lets you actually do a few good things

>>4007392
this. everything is nonsense as the game is mostly on rails and you just get a bits of different dialog

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>>4016656
>depressed internet communists
So reddit

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>>4016656
>embarrassing lack of memetic acumen
Gross, I don't like it when leftists post in my /vrpg/

>>4017954
That book is a decade older than your meme, newfag.

>>4005310
I’m not going to read thru this whole thread because OP is a faggot. The writing is anti-millennial, if anything. Very gonzo-boomer, and the voice acting is great.

The murder Vic is an absolute chad and the hot bitch was addicted to his cock. He was a hardcore military man, which is about as anti-millennial… hell anti-boomer writing as one can get. He is a spaghetti western-type antihero, and his killer is an absolutely pathetic commie faggot. I didn’t quite get the giant stick bug situation though.

I enjoyed my time with DE. Not going to replay it - don’t care enough to hear every dialogue tree, but the whole game is a build up to the climax, which was one of the if not the best climaxes in all of video games. Loved how your choices set the stage for both sides, and your skills had a huge impact on the final outcome. Was worth all the bullshit for that final confrontation, and I still think about it often. The only thing that approaches it is the sunken continent sequence in ff6, but that was fully on rails whereas DE’s climax is gritty intimate brutal and fully based on all the shit you did.

Glad i did it. Writing not millennial. But not a detective game and the amnesia thing is hamfisted, but the experience was awesome and the climax was a great payoff.

>>4018010
In conclusion, Disco Elysium is a land of contrasts.

Celestial Return released a few days ago, anyone played it?

>>4011724
That doesn't even come off as fascist, he's more like the classic old soldier guy who wants to go back to army times

>>4013493
Disco Elysium is most definitely an rpg anon.

>>4018048
75% on Steam for a story-driven game means it's a solid turd.

>>4018048
Art style doesn't do it for me, looks like it's trying to be too cool.
>>4018010
I liked how Disco has merits both on the superficial look at it with the cop stuff and the communism and on the deeper end where it's really just about Harry coping through getting his heart broken 20 different ways and doing an heroic amount of drugs.

>>4008281
>>4008293
>>4005675
horseshoe theory was right

>>4016623
not exactly redditors, but pretentious snobs who think they are smarter than others for liking it
4channers are more likely to do so than redditors

>>4022408
there is a demographic overlap for sure.

>>4005742
>The real truest fact that they cannot stand is that Humans are Animals.
We have consciousness unlike animals, so no. You dumb jew.

Beat it for the first time last night, liked it somewhat (didn't love it), and I can say with 100% certainty that this is a commie leftist game.

>>4023023
Sure you did. Who was your favourite communist?

>>4005320
>Better
Zero Parades doesn't scratch that same undercurrent of framing Harry as a mess to integrate with all the settings. Cascade is funny but it's unrelated to the character other than a brief mention of history of dissociation. The plot and themes are more surface level anyway
>Politics are bullshit
>Purpose is a sweet sweet lie
>Communism and Facism bad 'mkay

>>4007145
Music and tone are very different, I'd call ZP a Neo-Noir spy flick where your (gay Yuri spy in a doomed romance with a faceless woman) character undergoes emotional bdsm constantly and copes by being a whacky femcel with BPD and light schizophrenia. It's actually pretty good though often the interactions are less immersive and witty, but I think the different subject matter is well-handled between the light supernatural conspiracy and spy thriller. You aren't going to get many deep themes from this one though but somehow you still end up in the same post-soviet fishing town vibe. Funny that. Though the music doesn't actually reflect that

I couldn't play this game because I am an alcoholic myself and could see how much the author was doing a Seth Macfarlane esque self insert larp about being a tortured artist. Esoteric ebb was more fun because it wasnt so delusional loser coded

>>4023330
>tortured artist
Missed a lot of the subtext, Harry's whole tortured artist schtick is cope and everything in the game pretty much is meant to spell it out for you. You're not supposed to get "tortured artist vibes" you're supposed to get "woah this man is a trainwreck"

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>>4023345
I didn't miss anything, he is obviously a self insert and done in a way that is somehow almost identical to the way the character Brian from Family Guy is. Ironically shitting on yourself for being a retarded boozehound is something literally every alcoholic does (did you see me call myself a delusional loser up there?) It is just cope. The descriptions of blacking out and hangovers and et cetera used ernest hemingway level masturbatory language, and no, it wasn't because the NEET that wrote a point and click adventure game was capable of writing characters better than F Scott Fitzgerald, it's because he himself is an alcoholic loser. Maybe as a concept it's interesting if you haven't literally lived it. Here's an article interviewing the guy who wrote the character enumerating exactly what I said that I just found from googling "robert kurvitz alcoholism"

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/disco-elysium

>>4016623
I think its true, it appeals to Rick & Morty fans lol.

Disco Elysium is one of those that loves sniffing its own farts, but to be fair the biggest problem with Disco is that its game design is just garbage and has nothing going for it, it was clearly designed by a bunch of amateurs and uncreative people (gaming wise) and no amount of writing (the wiritng isn't that good either) justifies all the hype it gets by those redditors and journalists.
Game treats you like an idiot and spoonfeeds you any glimpse of subtelty, it also has shitty puzzles and cases to solve, its just all dialogue and nothing else and even narrative-wise the game is lacking on choices and branching paths, its crazy to me when i did a 2nd playthrough only to discover that almost nothing actually changes in my route.

>>4018010
Signs of a person with shit taste: Talks too much about the story or exclusively about the writing.

This kind of shit taste poisonius subhuman should be avoided if you want to achieve progress and mastery over gaming knowledge, otherwise you'll be stuck as a budget letterboxd/goodreads larper.

>>4023350
Not really, if Harry were an author's self-insert he would be spouting one-liners about how wignatz are the worst and or how moderate liberalism is le hecking cool (that's what Kim is for). Yeah there's an inkling of the author in the dialogue and the characters, but Harry is more than just a retarded boozehound. He's edging having panic attacks and emotional breakdowns and not entirely due to his drug addiction. Ultimately, Harry is a disaster because his life sucks and he got too attached to a woman that didn't like him back, he grew up in a post-war society on the loser's side, and while he's respected for his skills everyone clearly doesn't want to be around him because he's both an asshole and has a victim-complex.

There's also the supernatural mindwipe he got subjected to when he crashed his jeep into the Pale that forced him to develop a superficial personality to avoid demoralizing himself to death.

He's hardly a self-insert compared to any of Seth's appearances I think. Since he's simultaneously a colossal fuck up (even more than just being a so called alcoholic loser) but there's an undercurrent of hope and competence to him. I can agree though, it does border on delusional and cringy loser at times and I liked Ebb's more wholesome Horny Philosopher out of his luck with Mommy Issues and Grit that Ebb went for with the main character. You'd have to play more into the game to see that though, but I'll admit Ebb starts off a bit more hopeful though your character also isn't the same level of amnesiac.

Ebb unironically plays out like a less bleak Zero Parades though, which is infinitely funnier.

>>4023446
>the biggest problem with Disco is that its game design is just garbage and has nothing going for it, it was clearly designed by a bunch of amateurs and uncreative people (gaming wise)
It's hardly a 'game' but it avoids issues like Planescape Torment's tacked on battles.
>its just all dialogue and nothing else
It's all I needed to stay engaged.

>>4005225
Kinda happened when I was talking to Claire and lost the pistol and wanted to see what happen if I let the blue bar go down, that was dissapointing.
Anyway I started playing recently I knew it's a famous game that had political Theory inside and never spoiled anything of the game, after 8 hours of game with the premade detective/smart I was feeling that I was reading a fucking lot, I'm a guy who read a lot of books of about everything, but this game fuck me if the dialogs last hours, I mean I like it but at the sametime I noticed that I don't have to ask everything but at the same time i need to it, the characters are interesting to talk but how much do they fucking talk? I'm 8 hours in the fucking game and I'm still in the first day, I heard that the game can be finished in a Week ingame and later I discovered that the "pre-made smart" class is useless, I noticed because even I started to savescum to pass some stuff like I couldn't even do the autopsy on the body because i had 3% I reloaded so fucking much like a Fallout game to get that 6+6.
I know for sure i'm playing wrong, I don't even know if I got the right "ideas" like I saw becoming a communist was giving a huge malus on my stats, for now I'm a super star that remembers that he need to go home.
IDK if I'll keep playing, well I stop only when I lose interest or getting boring.

>>4023554
It seems like you're able to project into the character for reasons other than the cringeworthy irritating ones, so have fun with it, I suppose, but the gay parts were too much for me. Sorry

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>>4023122
Lol seethe.

>>4023554
>Not really, if Harry were an author's self-insert he would be spouting one-liners about how wignatz
Counterfactuals? Seriously?

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Just started this game, will play Disco Elysium when im done with this one.

>>4024185
That's fair enough, if it's not your game it just isn't your game and there's nothing wrong with that. If you want a character who's less of an alcoholic loser but in a similar game, Zero Parade's Cascade is quite literally
>Unluckiest Woman Alive
Not one hint of loser on her other than her fetish for self-torture, she's just snubbed by the universe though you'd have to play the game out to see what I mean by that
I recommend you pirate it though if you want to play it, up to you.

>>4024477
Unironically it makes sense that you lose morale talking about nationalist ideology, seeing how the previous regime went down.
>>4024804
I like Goat Eyes, funny stoned dealer man with surprisingly grounded perspectives for every other quirky character you meet. Everyone else is obsessed with culture or politics in this game.

>>4025150
I don't know if you 100% understand that what im saying is i cannot stand the writer or his writing style on an intrinsic level because he is a self centered idiot. I dont think the porno tranny female self insert will do it for me

Your defense of this shit is almost heroic though

>>4025159
It's a different team and writer though, I wouldn't call them the same style of prose either. Somewhat similar in what it attempts at the end of the day though, I'm just offering an alternative to the disco game in the disco thread

>18hrs Zero Parades update
Game is fun and so far i'm liking the world lore and the story generally, it's clearly inspired by USSR vs USA cold war and Germany's reunification with a sprinkle of a third faction: the international capital, the bank.